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March 14, 2011
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, MARCH 14, 2011
Call to Order:
Chairman Fleming called the March 14, 2011, Planning Commission meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Those present were Commissioners Roszak, Perez, Billington, Fleming and Howley, Community
Development & Natural Resources Director Danette Parr, Planner Jeff Matzke and Development
Services Assistant Joe Sortland.
2. Approval of Agenda
MOTION BY BILLINGTON, SECONDED BY HOWLEY TO APPROVE THE MARCH 14, 2011
MEETING AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
VOTE: Ayes by Howley, Billington, Fleming, Perez and Roszak. The motion carried.
3. Consider Approval of January 10, 2011 Meeting Minutes:
MOTION BY BILLINGTON, SECONDED BY HOWLEY TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 10, 2011
MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
VOTE: Ayes by Howley, Billington, Fleming, Perez and Roszak. The motion carried.
4. Public Hearings
A. No public hearing is schedule.
5. Old Business:
A. None
6. New Business:
A. #EP 11 -103 Fountain Hills Charter School. Charter School Property Solutions has submitted an
application for a concept plan for the property located at 4385 Fountain Hills Drive NE. The
concept involves possible scenarios to allow a charter school in an existing building in the C -2
(General Commercial) Zoning District. The property is located south of County Road 42 and
west of Pike Lake Trail NE, in the Fountain Hills development.
Planner Matzke presented the concept plan for Aspen Community Charter School. The land use for
the property is currently Community Retail Shopping (C -CC) and the current zoning is General
Commercial (C -2). The site was formerly a warehouse /showroom and is now vacant. The concept
plan includes a gym, classrooms and offices. An amendment to the Comprehensive Plan would be
required followed by a zoning change of the property to allow for a charter school on the subject
property, or an ordinance amendment to allow for the requested use, as an educational use is currently
not permitted in the commercial zoning district per the city code.
Kou Vang, JB Realty, representative for Aspen Academy, presented himself.
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Cynthia Sherar, Director Aspen Academy, presented herself. She stated that Aspen Academy is a
quickly expanding charter school which currently has 280 students.
Jeff Reistad, Board Chair for Aspen Academy, presented himself.
Vang stated that this process began 2 years ago when Aspen Academy realized they could not expand
their current site. They are currently located in Prior Lake and wish to remain in Prior Lake as they
expand, as their students' families live in the area. They found that the Fountain Hills site to be
conducive to their Academy's needs. The building, should plans be approved, would have classrooms,
computer labs, art rooms, music rooms, kindergarten, offices, bathrooms, a multi - purpose
gym /cafeteria, and a kitchen, however, no food will be cooked on site. With the exception of removing
two of the entrances, there is no proposed exterior work. The materials used for removing the
entrances will match the existing building materials. The building is sprinkler ready.
Questions from the Commissioners:
Howley asked if the Academy has bus service.
Vang answered that all the students are dropped off by parents.
Howley asked how large of an increase Aspen Academy is expecting.
Vang answered that the Academy is expecting to increase by 1.5 times and in six to seven years the
Academy will reach maximum growth.
Howley asked what their plans would be then following maximum growth.
Vang answered that Aspen Academy is charted up to 8 grades. The school would expand to a high
school following maximum growth, which involves a separate charter.
Howley asked how they would lease or purchase the building.
Vang answered that Charter School Solutions would assist Aspen Academy with leasing and
renovating the subject building. This would be Charter School Solution's first school in Minnesota. The
company would pay property taxes as if it were a business.
Billington asked how the school year is structured.
Vang answered that the school year mirrors a public school. He stated that charter schools are funded
through the Minnesota Department of Education, only they are for - profit, but they must meet State
guidelines and statutes. Another distinguishing aspect is that charter schools are not held to the
bureaucratic guidelines of the public school education system which allows them to react faster to any
pressing needs.
Billington asked if the difference with public schools would be a proactive innovation.
Vang answered that is correct.
Billington asked how much staff they have.
Vang said Aspen Academy currently 25 employees and expansion would allow 30.
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Billington asked if they have any concerns with the proposed area.
Vang answered that with the Fountain Hills location they do not, whereas they were concerned about
the industrial area adjacent to another site they considered in the Prior Lake /Savage area.
Perez asked how many of the 266 students live in the Prior Lake - Savage School District 719.
Sherar answered they have 136 families, 217 children from School District 719.
Perez asked who the sponsor for Aspen Academy is.
Sherar answered Friends of Education — they currently sponsor 17 charter schools in Minnesota.
Roszak asked if all the students are dropped off at the same time.
Sherar said she has experience with traffic planning and the students are dropped off in a 15 minute
time frame. Carpooling and bussing is an issue that they leave open to the parents of their students.
Roszak asked where they are currently located.
Cynthia answered that they are currently located in Bethesda Church, as charter schools are not
permitted to own property.
Roszak stated his support for the charter school concept plan.
Fleming asked about Aspen Academy's timeframe.
Vang answered that they are on the fast - track. Their lease with Bethesda Church is coming due and
they would like to start construction sometime April or early May with completion by August. If Aspen
Academy does not meet their timeframe they must stay at the current location.
Fleming asked what their plan is to maintain a positive enrollment given the state funding situation.
Sherar answered that test scores are the primary asset to Aspen Academy's growth, given that charter
schools do not have a lot to back their reputation. She stated that their growth can also be contributed
to word of mouth, and that their 4 th grade reading test scores were the highest in the State.
Fleming asked about a playground for the students.
Vang answered that there is a proposed playground on the south side of the site. He stated that there
is a significant berm on the south side which offers an adequate physical barrier for a playground to be
located between the existing high density residential and the proposed building for the charter school.
Fleming asked about the 0% Native American enrollment at Aspen Academy, given that the Shakopee
Mdewakanton Sioux Community is located within Prior Lake.
Sherar answered that she has met with members of the Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community to
discuss opportunities between the two parties. This is an issue that has been noticed and is in the
beginning stages for Aspen Academy.
Fleming asked Matzke about the timeline for rezoning in relation to Aspen Academy's options.
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Matzke answered that a comprehensive plan amendment and rezoning request has to go in order and
also be reviewed by the Met Council. Each process could potentially take a couple months depending
on how quickly the Met Council approves the land use change. He said that the timeline will be quite
tight given the Academy's current leasing situation. Also contingent on the timeline is the review of
building plans required for the renovation.
Comments by Commissioners:
Howley stated that a negative point is the tax situation, but that it sounded like the City may not lose
any tax money according to Aspen Academy representative. The only other negative point was that the
remaining vacant parcels would be limited from selling liquor, and that the ordinance amendment option
would be the viable option for allowing a charter school to be a permitted use. The backbone of a
community is a school, and that it would be unwise to not assist a growing school. Turning from Pike
Lake Trail onto County Road 42 can be difficult and the traffic situation could be improved with a traffic
light.
Parr stated that the Charter school is currently located in the Savage city limits, despite the property
having a Prior Lake mailing address. Parr stated even though the charter school may not own the land,
they may still be exempt from property tax. It is not possible to determine if the charter school will or
will not pay property tax. Parr also stated that the request going before the Planning Commission is
simply a concept, and that site plan, traffic studies, and more detailed review of the proposed uses as
they related to the city ordinances is required.
Billington stated that the concept allows for an enhancement of education opportunities. The way in
which charter school operates allows for a proactive environment, and the quality of life would be
improved with this concept. Safety is of little concern given the nature and operation of schools and did
not think there would be a negative impact on the neighborhood. Its location next to the residential is
also an asset. A negatives point would be the tax base question. The method in which the building
would be leased would hopefully assist the City with taxable property. Billington didn't believe that the
charter school would be a detractor for the development of the remaining vacant Fountain Hills
properties. It would fit in with the Comprehensive and Strategic Plan and he would support the
concept.
Perez asked Matzke if the church on the east side of Pike Lake Trail is within 300 feet of the
commercial area along Fountain Hills Drive.
Matzke answered that it is only within 300 feet of the current gas station site at 4460 Fountain Hills
Drive.
Perez stated that more education options are an asset for the City and that the building appears to be
appropriate for Aspen Academy's needs. Obtaining a tenant for the vacant building would be an
additional asset for the community. A negative aspect is that the proposed use is not commercial, as it
is currently zoned. The 2030 plan involved an extensive amount of work to assure properties were
provided zone and land use designations appropriate for the site. The ambiguous property tax situation
is a concern, as well as the existing traffic conditions.
Roszak stated that he is concerned about the tax property situation and that the increase in traffic
would be an issue, but that these issues could be addressed with more information and studies.
Roszak stated that he supports the use of the building as a charter school and the proposed concept.
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Fleming stated that he agrees with his fellow commissioners and that he supports the concept. He
stated that there needs to be a full- understanding of the tax property issues, and encouraged the
application to work with the city for a smooth transition.
Perez stated that he believed a comprehensive plan amendment would be the most appropriate option,
rather than an ordinance amendment.
Billington asked about the typical school day for Aspen Academy.
Sherar answered the students are dropped off from 8:10 -8:30 AM, teachers are outside unloading cars.
Aspen Academy caters to kindergarten thru 5 th grade. Classes involve math, reading, art, music,
physical education and Spanish. The school provides lunch and before and after school programs
such as drama and chess. The students are taught about other cultures and also attend field trips.
Aspen Academy has a class size limit of 22 students. The students go home at 3:30, however, before
and after school programs allow students to come as early as 7 AM and stay until 5:30 PM.
Billington asked about their website.
Sherar answered: www.aspenacademvmn.org
Fleming asked if Matzke or Parr need any guidance on the options.
Parr asked the Planning Commission to clarify that Option 1 was the preferred option.
Fleming asked the Planning Commissioners if anyone opposed Option 1.
No Planning Commissioners opposed Option 1.
Vang stated that they currently have 13 classrooms and the new site would provide them with 26
classrooms. Vang said that they are full at their current site. Vang stated he has discussed the
process with staff, but asked, given the timeline, if there were any possibilities for an interim process.
Fleming asked if there is a practice of proceeding with building permit approvals or construction prior to
comprehensive plan change approval.
Parr answered that she is not familiar with similar previous experiences. She did not believe that
Planning Department could sign off on any kind of building permit prior to approval. Parr stated that the
publishing period for the March 28 Planning Commission meeting has passed.
Fleming asked if there is any dialogue with the City Attorney to accommodate the scenario.
Parr answered that staff would discuss the situation with the City Attorney.
Howley asked if the charter school can submit a building plan, but Certificate of Occupancy be withheld
until a comprehensive plan amendment be approved.
Parr answered that Planning cannot sign off on a building permit if it is not in compliance with the
zoning ordinance.
Perez asked if the concept will be going before the City Council.
Parr answered that the concept will be going before the City Council on March 21 st, 2011.
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7. Announcements and Correspondence:
Parr stated that the Planning Commission will be meeting on March 28 2011 to discuss an ordinance
amendment and the results of charter school conversations.
8. Adjournment: The meeting adjourned at 7:10 p.m.
Joe Sortland, Development Services Assistant
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