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CITY COUNCil AGENDA REPORT
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AGENDA ITEM: CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A REPORT REGARDING THE POTENTIAL FOR
INCREASING PARKING FOR INDIVIDUALS USING THE FISHING PIER AREA
AND BOATERS USING THE DNR ACCESSES.
DISCUSSION: History: At the August 6th City Council meeting, the Council discussed the lack of
parking availability at the fishing pier / CSAH 21 bridge area, and around the two
DNR boat accesses. The staff was directed to provide a report to the Council
which would (1) propose how the City could provide more off-street parking in the
area of the fishing pier / CSAH 21 bridge to accommodate fisherpersons; and (2)
propose options to provide for more vehicle - trailer parking to serve persons
using the two DNR accesses to the lake. Attached for information is a Prior Lake
American newspaper article on this subject.
Current Circumstances: This memorandum explores a number of alternatives
for City Council consideration and direction. If Council members will identify their
preferred options, then the staff can proceed to the next steps.
How can the City Provide More Off-Street Parkinq in the Vicinity of the
Fishinq Pier I CSAH 21? In an effort to review all possible options, we
considered the possibility of moving the fishing pier. We concluded that moving
the pier would not address the issue since fishing from the shoreline near the
bridge occurs because that is where the fish are biting. Unless the location to
which the pier is moved offers better fishing, moving the pier will serve no
purpose.
We also reviewed the Grainwood and Heritage Park areas. Consideration was
given to developing angle parking along the entire Quincy frontage of Grainwood
Park. We estimate that four new stalls could be added in addition to the two
handicapped stalls. Another option is to expand the parking lot at Grainwood
Park so it would extend from Quincy to the restroom shelters. It is estimated that
this lot would provide eight stalls plus two handicapped. It is estimated that the
smaller lot would cost $15,000 and the larger $25,000.
The smaller lot has a number of disadvantages. Because it is immediately off
Quincy, vehicles will need to back out onto the street when leaving. The stacking
distance to CSAH 21 is also less than optimum. The larger Grainwood lot
provides more stalls, allows for turn around in the lot, and is well buffered from
CSAH 21, Quincy and the house next to the park. Moreover, once the lot is done,
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there is still considerable park land left. It should be signed for "No Trailer
Parking" due to size limitations.
Another set of options involves purchasing additional property. The City could try
to purchase the tressle property. Development of a parking lot on the tressle
property will require removal of the hedge which naturally buffers the park from
the adjacent house. It will need to be replaced by another buffer. The City could
instead purchase all or a portion of the Eaglewood East property which lies
adjacent to CSAH 21 between West and Lakeside.
Since land acquisition is involved in the latter two options, the total cost is less
predictable but certainly will be more than the above options. On the other hand,
a larger parking lot would be possible with access both from West and Lakeside.
How Can More Vehicle-Trailer Parking Spots be Provided for Patrons Using
DNR Accesses? At present, the DNR provides 28 parking stalls for vehicles and
trailers at the Sand Point Access. The City rents an additional 15 spaces at Sand
Point Park. The DeWitt access offers ten (10) parking stalls.
The City could add parking to the existing Sand Point lot by re-striping. This could
yield as many as 14 more vehicles with trailer spots. We would lose 28 vehicle
only stalls from the parking lot.
There is also sufficient property in Sand Point, or under the Crest Avenue water
tower to construct a new parking lot which could accommodate 13-20
vehicle/trailer spots.
To provide more parking at DeWitte, the Council could authorize the DNR to
construct a parking lot on the parcel it owns. This would yield 8 to 10 stalls and,
most likely, unfavorable feedback from the neighborhood.
The final option is to allow boaters to park their cars and trailers at the Lakefront
Park parking lot. Up to eighteen stalls would be available. This option is one of
the lowest cost options, but is least convenient. The trails to the lake from this lot
are indirect. Most people choose to navigate the steep hill that used to include a
railroad tie stairway until they rotted.
ISSUES:
I believe that the Council wants to find the most cost-effective means of adding
parking area for fisherpersons and boaters. The staff recommends the following:
Fisherpersons: The parking lot at Grainwood Park should be expanded to provide
eight stalls and two handicapped spaces. This park is convenient to the bridge.
The parking lot would be well buffered from adjacent houses but observable from
CSAH 21. Building the lot inside the park also eliminates backing onto Quincy.
The total estimated cost of the parking lot is $25,000.
Boaters: The Lakefront Park upper lot should be opened to vehicles with trailers.
Initially, five or ten stalls should be re-stripped for this purpose. Adjustments can
be made based upon demand. Staff recommends that the stairs or a walkway be
re-built directly from this lot to Watzl's Beach. The estimated cost is $35,000. We
believe that this direct access is perhaps one of the only trail needs which was
not addressed by the most recent park improvements.
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FISCAL IMPACT: The estimated $60,000 cost for the parking improvements would be drawn from
the Capital Park Fund, the balance of which is $1,232,998.00.
ALTERNATIVES: (1) Accept the staff recommendations and direct that more firm quotations be
obtained.
(2) Direct the staff to analyze other options.
RECOMMENDED
MOTION: Alternative (1).
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moving the problem
further and further
away. Wa'ra not
addressing the
problem, which is
that there are no
adequate spaces."
vexing issue
By Caroline Burau
Staff Writer
If you've ever tried to launch a
boat on Prior Lake on a sunny Sat-
urday afternoon, you're probably
aware that the parking supply
doesn't meet the demand. So who's
responsible for supply?
Not the local homeowners, ac-
cording to the Prior Lake City
Council. The city council voted 3-
2 to approve no parking signs for
Candlewood Circle and the remain-
der of Cedarwood Lane last week.
The two streets were virtually
the only areas remaining without
"No Parking: Vehicles with Trail-
ers" signs posted. Signs were post-
ed everywhere else in the neighbor-
hoods surrounding the Sand Point
public boat access two years ago,
amid similar controversy.
Councilmen Jim Ericson and
Mike Gundlach voted against in-
stalling the signs. Installing addi-
tional signs, Ericson said, is just
treating a symptom of a larger prob-
lem: lake parking. :
Unless you live on the lake,
there's no guarantee you'll be able
to park your vehicle and boat trail-
er within walking distance of the
lake on a weekend or holiday. Boat-
ers are known to parkas far away
from the Sand Point access as the
Rainbow Foods parking lot on
Highway 13 and County Road 42.
And there are .only 20 parking spots
at the Dewitt Access on Upper Pri-
or Lake.
Ericson and Gundlach contend
that more needs to be done to give
the public better access to public
waters. After the vote, Ericson di-
rected city staff to look into solu-
tions to the problem, such as alter-
nate parking at Lakefront Park.
"I think we keep moving the
problem further and further away,"
Ericson said. "We're not address-
ing the problem, which is that there
are no adequate spaces."
Mayor Wes Mader reminded
the council that the issue at hand
dealt with only two streets and not
with the larger parking problem.
Mader and councilmen Jim Peters-
en and Joe Zieska voted in favor
of the signs, which were installed
Wednesday (Aug. 15).
Whose problem is it?
Standing outside his home on
Councilman.
Jim Ericson
Candlewood Circle, Burt Peterson
said he doesn't know who's respon-
sible for providing more parking
spots for boaters, but he's glad it's
no longer his.
Peterson and his wife, Rita, cir-
culated a petition to get the no park-
ing signs installed because he and
his neighbors we;:~",.w:;~aving
limited access to their own homes.
Candlewood Circle.i1ia sRwewhat
small cul de sac with limited space
between driveways. Still, Petersen
said, boaters desperate for a spot
tried to cram their cars and trailers
anywhere possible. ,
He described how his next-door
neighbor "'chased one guy cut". of
his driveway. Another boater tned
to park "something the size of a
semi': in the middle of the narrow
street.
"If we have visitors, there's no
place for them to park," rete~son
said. Another of Peterson s neIgh-
bors has had sod ruined by vehi-
cles driving over it. "Sure it's a
public area, but how mucll does
Prior Lake have to accommodate
outsiders?" Peterson said. .
At the council meeting, Zieska
raised the point that fewer parking
spots may deter boaters from co.m-
ing to Prior Lake, thereby keepIng
it less crowded.
To that, Ericson countered:
"Why should we be deterring peo-
ple frqm the lake? The lake b~longs
to residents and non-resIdents
alike."
Some say the lake is too crowd-
ed as it is. So how many boaters
are too many?
Donna Mankowski of the Prior
Lake Association (PLA) said ve-
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hide and trailer parking is not a . "Often, we can't get enough
new issue in Prior Lake. And the property (for parking) because
PLA is continually trying to edu- lakefront property is so expensive," ,
cate boaters about boating regula- Willhite said. He added that the .'
tions on an increasingly busy lake. minimal amount. of DNR parking
Should more parking be made spaces is not an attempt to limit
available? boat traffic.
"I don't know that we've ever The DNR does not interfere
taken a stand on it," Mankowski with the city's right to provide ad-
said. But she said she feels celtain ditional parking elsewhere, such as
that more parking spots will mean' on streets or in other parking lots.
more boats. "If you put in 500 spac- Willhite stressed. that the lake
es, you're going to get 500 more is public space that belongs to ev-
boats on the lake." eryone. She said the DNR's formu-
Boat overload la of one boat per 20 acres is more
~ than generous to lakefront owners,
The problem of "boat overload" giying them about half of the lake
is a problem unique to metro area to themselves. That is, if no addi-
lakes, according to Suzann Will- tional parking is put in.
hite, trails and waterways area su- "In the metro, there's much
pervisor for the Minnesota Depart- more demand than there are spac-
ment of Resources (DNR). es," Willhite said.
Lake accesses are owned,and .. Is the lake too crowded? "It all
operafed by the DNR;,.wmch a;sd. depends on your perspectivet she
pro,vide a minimum of parking said. "If you've lived on the lake
spaces with every new access. The for 20 years, then you'd probably
DNR tries to provide at least one say it's too crowded. It's hard to
space per 20 acres of lake, which balance the rights of lakeshore
would mean about 58 spaces for owners with those who still have
upper and lower Prior Lake. Still, the right to use public waters.
there are only 12 DNR spaces at "It's hard to balance everyone's
the Dewitt access and 28 DNR desires."
spaces at the Sand Point access.
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