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TUESD/IY, DECEMBER 15, 1998
6:30 p.m.
1. Call Meeting to Order:
2. Roll Call:
3. Approval of Minutes:
4. Public Hearings:
A. Case #98-163 Request for an amendment to the approved conditional use permit for
the Gleason Gymnastic School located at 17001 Fish Point Road SE. The proposed
amendment will allow the hours of operation of the school to be extended to 2:00 PM
to 11:00 PM, Mondays through Fridays for school sponsored activities.
5. Old Business:
6. New Business:
A. Case #98-158 Lee Nelson of 16085 Northwood Road is requesting the vacation of an
easement for water main located on Lot 94, Northwood.
7. Announcements and Correspondence:
8. Adjournment:
THE DECEMBER 28, 1998 MEETING HAS BEEN CANCELED.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
DECEMBER 15, 1998
1. Call to Order:
The December 15, 1998, Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman
Stamson at 6:30 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Criego, Stamson and Vonhof,
Planning Director Don Rye, Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier, Planner Jenni Tovar and
Assistant City Engineer Sue McDermott.
2. Roll Call:
Vonhof Present
Kuykendall Absent
Criego Present
Cramer Absent
Stamson Present
3. Approval of Minutes:
The Minutes fxom the November 23, 1998 Planning Commission meeting were approved
as presented.
4. Public Hearings:
Case #98-163 Request for an amendment to the approved Conditional Use
Permit for the Gleason Gymnastic School located at 17001 Fish Point Road SE.
The proposed amendment will allow the hours of operation of the school to be
extended to 2:00 PM to 11:00 PM, Mondays through Fridays for school
sponsored activities.
Planning Coordinator Jane Kaiser presented the Planning Report dated December 15,
1998, on file in the office of the Planning Director. On September 21, 1998, the City
Council approved an ordinance permitting gymnastic schools in the B-P zoning district
with specific conditions. On December 7, 1998, the City Council amended the ordinance
changing the condition relating to hours of operation. This Conditional Use Permit
(CUP) amendment is to be reflective of the extended hours of operation. Staff
recommends approval of the change to the CUP subject to specific conditions as listed in
the staff report.
Comments from the public:
The applicant was not present at the hearing.
Dorothy McPherson, 16282 West Avenue, stated she leases the adjacent unit at 17001
Fish Point Road, #103. She does not approve of the extended hours. It is an industrial
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area and a lot of business activities are being conducted in this building. The noise is also
a problem. McPherson invited the Commissioners to come over and hear the level of
noise. She said they used to work during the night hours, and now they have to work
additional hours during the day just for peace and quiet.
Parking is available on the site, however, it is not entirely in front of the leased space.
McPherson said they had to place signs in front of their space to keep people from
parking in their area. She stated she understands the need for the sport, but the general
occupancy of the building is not even complete. The landlord does not want to finish
items that need to be done. McPherson presented a written request from the four tenants
to deny this amendment. A warehouse are is not the area for a sport activity. There is too
much business activity.
Mary Haugen, Activities Director at Prior Lake High School, is requesting the change so
the High School would be able to use Gleason's facility for gymnastic practice potentially
2 to 3 times a week. The season starts the second week of November and ends the third
week in February. Currently there are 18 gymnasts and 3 coaches. Five of the girls drive
so there would be only 8 cars at the most, parking at the facility. The existing High
School gyms are used for basketball programs and events. They use as many facilities in
the community as possible. Only half of one gym is used for the gynmastic program.
Haugen said they have looked for alternative locations for gynmastics. Other
surrounding schools lease space from private gymnastic facilities. The school would not
be required to transport the students if the site was located in Prior Lake. The gymnastic
program has been transporting students to Bloomington. Competition is at the High
School. They are asking for three hours a day for three days per week for 20 people.
Haugen feels what they are asking falls within the boundaries of the ordinance. If noise
were an issue, would the intent of the City be to keep the space vacant? It is important to
keep our kids in town and offer a program for our youth.
The public hearing was closed at 6:50 p.m.
Comments from the Commissioners:
Vonhof:
· Previously addressed this issue at length.
· Agrees with staff recommendation. Conditional Use Permit conditions are met.
· Add additional condition that there are no meets or competition allowed during 2:00
p.m. and 5:00 p.m.
· Review one year from now.
Criego:
· Questioned noise and separation wall. McPherson explained. They are used to the
normal warehouse noise but on the opposite side of the wall where they work, the
gymnasts are jumping on a trampoline and constantly banging against the wall. They
have had items against the wall fail over.
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· Questioned how many square feet. McPherson said approximately 2,650 square feet,
employing 3 employees and hiring more.
· The Star Tribune office has several tracks pulling in and out during the day. The
other business, is in the process of shutting down for the winter.
Stamson:
· Questioned if these issues were addressed with the landlord? McPherson said "Yes.
Nothing is being done." Parking is also a problem.
· What was his response on the noise issue? McPherson responded the owner said he
would talk to Gleason, but nothing has changed. She has requested "No Parking"
signs in front of their unit to keep the gynmastic cars out, but again nothing has been
done.
Criego:
· Questioned Mary Haugen on how many children would be on site. Haugen
responded said there are 18 gymnasts from grades 7 to 12 who would car pool.
· Empathy for the High School but this business park was put up for industry. If we
have current tenants complaining about noise and to some degree about parking. It is
only going to get worse in the afternoon when most of the employees are there
working.
· Hard time justifying the afternoon session. That is why it was limited to 5:00 p.m.
and beyond.
· Item 4 is not being met. There is noise generated from the gynmastics studio. The
environment is being disturbed.
· There will be a parking issue. Cannot recommend approval because of problems.
Stamson:
· Concern for moving the practice time forward and the impact of this type of facility in
the industrial park.
· We did discuss these point earlier and they were to be reviewed. Most of our
concerns are site based. They could apply to other issues.
· Agreeable to changing the hours with annual review. If there are more problems then
we can limit the hours.
· Sympathize for both users.
Criego:
· I am a small business user. My neighbor had loud excessive noise. It is difficult to
remove sound once it is there. It becomes the norm. Types of sound are different.
Vonhof:
· Agreed with Criego, but there is a way to deal with the noise. Condition the CUP
where the tenant is responsible for any noise abatement.
· The parking lot be appropriately signed. Then it becomes the tenant's responsibility
to take care of the noise.
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Add condition the tenants cannot operate afternoon session until the parking lot is
signed and wall noise issues addressed.
MOTION BY VONHOF, SECOND BY CRIEGO, TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL
APPROVE THE CUP WITH SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED,
INCLUDING STAFF RECOMMENDATION WHICH INCLUDE THE FIVE
PROVISIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE ADDITIONAL TWO
PROVISIONS, INCLUDING THE NOISE ABATEMENT TO PREVENT NOISE
COMING FROM THE UNIT AND THE PARKING LOT IS APPROPRIATELY
SIGNED. THESE IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE MADE PRIOR TO ANY
ACTIVITIES BETWEEN THE 2:00 P.M. AND 5:00 P.M. TIME PERIOD.
Vote taken signified ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
This item will go before the City Council on January 4, 1999.
5. Old Business:
6. New Business:
A. Case #98-158 Lee Nelson of 16085 Northwood Road is requesting the vacation of
an easement for water main located on Lot 94, Northwood.
Planner Jenni Tovar presented the Planning Report dated December 15, 1998, on file in
the office of the Planning Director.
This petition is part of the City's effort to clean-up easements within the City. As the
situation exists, the City has a water main easement and separate sanitary sewer easement
on Lot 94, Northwood. It would be very difficult to work on the water main and remain
in the existing easement.
The property owner intends to construct a garage addition. A permit has been issued with
the proposed garage located on a portion of the existing water main easement. The
permit was issued with the intent of the City to correct the easement situation on the lot.
Mr. Nelson is willing to grant the City the proper easement as part of this vacation. After
such dedication, the proposed garage will not be located on any easement.
Vonhof questioned if 15 feet was a common width for utility easements. Sue McDermott
responded the watermain is usually a minimum of 8 feet deep with the width
approximately twice the depth. Fifteen feet is adequate.
Comments from the public:
Applicant, Lee Smith, 16058 Northwood Road was present but declined comment.
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Comments from the Commissioners:
Criego:
· Sees no problem with the proposed resolution. Recommend approval.
Vonhof/Stamson:
· Concurred.
MOTION BY CI~EGO, SECOND BY VONHOF, TO RECOMMEND RESOLUTION
98-035PC VACATION OF WATER MAIN EASEMENT LOCATED ON LOT 94,
NORTHWOOD.
Vote taken signified ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
Tovar said this item will go before City Council on January 4, 1999.
7. Announcements and Correspondence:
Rye said the City Council will consider a resolution directing staffto prepare an
ordinance with findings adopting the new Zoning Ordinance.
Last week the City interviewed three consulting firms for planning services for the
downtown redevelopment plan. There were three choices, the panel was unanimous in
selecting Hoisington-Koegler with Ehlers and Associates. Everyone was pleased with
their plan and level of enthusiasm. The Economic Development Authority (EDA) will
direct the contract with their consultant at their December 21, 1998 meeting.
Criego gave a brief overview of the City Council workshop he attended with discussions
on the bluff ordinance and lot width requirements for Riparian lots.
Discussions followed clarifying the bluff setbacks, lot combinations and DNR
requirements.
Vonhof commented on the joint City Council/Planning Commission workshop. The
dialogue was very good and beneficial to everyone.
8. Adjournment:
The meeting adjourned at 7:20 p.m.
Donald Rye
Director of Planning.
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