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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA
MONDAY, MAY 22, 1995
Call Meeting to Order
a) Review Minutes of Previous meeting.
Consent Items:~
a) Resolution- Kraus Variance
McKnight Variance Request
The Preserve at The Wilds Preliminary Plat and Variance
Midwest Cable Conditional Use Permit
Ziskovsky Variance Request
Snodgrass Variance Request
OTHER BUSINESS:
a) Capital Improvement Program
b) Planning Commission Membership
All times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the exception of Public
Hearings, are approximate and may start a few minutes earlier or later than the
scheduled time.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MAY 22, 1995
The May 22, 1995, Planning Commission Meeting was called to order by Commissioner
Vonhof at 7:00 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Arnold, Loftus, Roseth and
Vonhof, Planning Director Don Rye, Assistant Planner Deb Garross, Associate Planner
Michael Leek and Secretary Connie Carlson.
REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING:
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Loftus, Arnold and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT ITEMS:
a) Resolution 95-09PC (Kraus Variance).
Vote taken to approve Resolution 95-09PC of the Consent Items signified ayes by
Arnold, Loftus, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM 1. MCKNIGHT VARIANCE REQUEST:
Associate Planner Michael Leek stated the applicant has requested the hearing be moved
to the June 12, 1995 Planning Commission meeting.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO CONTINUE THE VARIANCE
REQUEST TO JUNE 12, 1995.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Loftus, Arnold and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
The next item was a public hearing scheduled for 7:30. Commissioners took this
opportunity to discuss item b) Planning Commission Membership.
Planning Director Don Rye explained the City Council's Motion in April asking the
Planning Commission to recommend revisions to the Bylaws for continuing terms of
Planning Commissioners whose terms are to expire until the 2010 Plan has been
completed. Also to provide provisions for apprenticeship to be served by newly
appointed members of the Planning Commission. The Motion deals with two different
issues, the first as far as extension of terms for current members by amending the By-laws
to add the following language: City Council in its sole discretion may extend the term
of any Commission member when it is deemed to be in the best interest of the City.
Such extension shall be for a period of time to be specified by the City Council. This
allows them the option of if the need arises, without necessarily pinning it down to the
current circumstance of completing the Comprehensive Plan.
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The second issue of apprenticeship brings concern of how long should this be? Should
they be allowed to participate in deliberations? Either with or without voting privileges?
Should they be compensated for this apprenticeship? Requiring an apprenticeship make it
harder to attract people serving on the Planning Commission? Looking for input from
Commissioners to bring back recommendations to City Council.
GENERAL DISCUSSION OF COMMISSIONERS: Three Commissioners have been on
a long time and have a lot of experience and historical background which is important to
the Commission; Apprentice should observe and not be part of the discussions until "on
board"; It is also important for apprentice to be committed and attend all meetings;
Commissioners may have to resign and then would have to make an appointment; This
gives Council an opportunity to plan ahead; Three months is six meetings which would
be more appropriate than six months; Apprentices would be able to sit in the audience,
take notes, observe and get use to the policy and procedures; As time goes on, swing
into the conversation or move up to the table and participate; It should be up to City
Council to compensate for their apprenticeship; No voting privileges; Great opportunity
to train instead of slowing down the Planning Commission with questions and
procedures; It is presumed that the apprentice is already appointed by Council and will
be the permanent replacement; Commissioners Arnold and Roseth's total years of
experience is 31 years; Recommendation is to change By-laws; Rye will draft the
outline for the next meeting.
Commissioner Vonhof will make an activity report to the City Council in June as
required by the By-laws. Commissioners should bring their ideas and concerns to
Vonhof by the next meeting.
Commissioner Loftus stated he will be on vacation for the second meeting on June 26.
ITEM 2. PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PRESERVE AT THE WILDS
PRELIMINARY PLAT AND VARIANCE:
Timn Jacobs, the project manager for The Wilds, stated this request originally started in
January when they wished to change the PUD designation of the attached villas to nine
detached villas. At that time the PUD usage was changed contingent on engineering
approval of the location of the private road. Also the original "second tier" developer,
Neddegard was to develop the nine detached villas and proceed with what they term as
"custom grading" of all the lots, and the primary developer, Prior Lake Development was
going to act as developer for the streets, utilities and major grading in the plat. The
custom grading of each lot would be done as each lot was sold. Since that original
contract was initiated, the second tier developer changed from Neddegard to Paramount
Construction. Paramount agreed to purchase the property and develop it consistant with
the PUD requirements.
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Nick Poulta of Pioneer Engineering explained the
preservation plan and private streets.
preliminary grading plan, tree
Assistant Planner Deb Garross presented information as per the May 22, 1995, Planning
Report.
The Prior Lake Development Review Committee, (DRC), received an application for
subdivision and variance from Prior Lake Development L.P., 2500 Wilds Parkway, Prior
Lake, MN 55372. The request is to adjust property lines of Outlots L, B, and W, The
Wilds, as per attached preliminary plat. The part of the plat in the vicinity of Outlot L,
The Wilds, is proposed to be subdivided into 9 lots for development of "Detached Villa
Homesites." The entire subject site consists of approximately 58 acres of land. The part
of the site to be platted with lots contains about 3.5 acres of land. The majority of the
site contains fairways #10, (located north of Outlot L, The Wilds), and #12, (located
south of Outlot L, The Wilds). In addition to preliminary plat approval, the applicant
requests that the following variance be granted with the subdivision:
A 12' lot depth variance for proposed Lot 1, Block 1, Preserve at the Wilds. The
proposal is to create a lot containing 88' of lot depth. The required lot depth is 100',
therefore, the applicant requests a 12' lot depth variance.
The Staff recommendation to deny the preliminary plat is based upon the fact that the
grading plan does not address the entire subject site, contains inaccurate building and
driveway information and therefore the preliminary plat application is incomplete. In
addition, restrictive covenants, required by the Subdivision Ordinance, have not been
submitted with the preliminary plat application.
City Engineer Larry Anderson stated the most significant issue with the plat from an
engineering standpoint is the lack of the detailed grading plan for the individual lots. The
Subdivision Ordinance does require a grading plan. The Preserve has indicated they
would like to have custom graded lots and have not shown any grading on the lots. If
there is no grading plan for the individual lot Engineering will not know how one lot will
tie into the adjacent lot. The Subdivision Ordinance also requires drainage plans.
Developers would have to be responsible for the grading and drainage. If this was
resolved it would take care of the major points from engineering and several other minor
details that can be addressed. Also depending on how the individual lots are graded, that
will effect the amount of trees that are removed.
There were no comments from the audience.
Comments from the Commissioners included: Arnold: feels it is appropriate to have the
grading plan submitted to the City so Engineering can make plans; concern for trees.
Roseth: Concurs with Arnold. (Poulta explained the custom grading concept is to
provide service to each individual lot and preserve trees. The only way to provide graded
building sites is to strip the building site and trees will not be saved. The developer holds
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an interest with the custom grading. There is going to be an association in this
development which will be responsible for all areas outside the actual building itself.
There is already a blanket easement granted to themselves as an association. The
building pads are large and meet all requirements. This represents the worst case
scenario.) Loftus: Asked for comments from Engineering (Larry Anderson:
Recommends the developer provide a grading plan for the plat. Vonhof: What and who
is to develop retaining walls? (Poulta: The developer will probably use Braun Intertech
to design their retaining walls.) concurs with other Commissioners to follow ordinance
grading plan; concern for amount of trees removed from site - 80%. (Garross: should
state in deed that any trees removed will be replaced and maintained. This will provide
guidance to developer and future builders and homeowners. Request tree preservation be
placed within the Preserve covenants.) Vonhof: Request for tree preservation in
covenants.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY ROSETH TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 95-
07PC THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND VARIANCE FOR THE PRESERVE AT THE
WILDS.
Discussion: Resolution spells issues out. Item 16 under Conditions adequately covers
the grading plan. All issues in the attached Memos and Exhibits must be approved by the
City Engineer.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Roseth, Loftus and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY ARNOLD TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Arnold, Loftus and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
A recess was called at 8:25 p.m. Meeting reconvened at 8:30 p.m.
With the approval of Midwest Cable the Ziskovsky and Snodgrass variance requests
proceeded as follows:
ITEM 4. ZISKOVSKY VARIANCE REQUEST:
Associate Planner Michael Leek presented Planning Report dated May 22, 1995.
The Planning Department received a variance application from Gerald and Kris Zislovsky
for 2952 Spring Lake Road SW. The subject property is legally described on the
applicant's certificate of survey, and consists of part of Lots 10, 11 and 12, Spring Lake
Townsite, Scott County, Minnesota. The applicant proposes to construct a deck
measuring 10 feet x 16 feet. The specific variances requested are an 8 foot front yard
variance from Lime Street and a 25 foot front yard variance from Spring Lake Road. The
requested variances would result in front yard setbacks of 17 feet (instead of the required
25 feet) and 60 feet (instead of the required 85 feet), respectively.
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The subject property was platted prior to its annexation by the City of Prior Lake in
September of 1975. The existing house was moved onto the lot in 1981.
Staff believes all the hardship criteria have been met and recommends approval of the
variance request.
Gerald Ziskovsky, 2952 Spring Lake Road, presented pictures of the property. Mr.
Ziskovsky stated he talked to most of the neighbors who agreed a deck would look nice.
The deck would be 3 to 4 feet off the ground with a railing. Mr. Ziskovsky has also
discussed the plans with the Building Department.
There were no comments from the audience.
Comments from the Planning Commissioners included: Roseth: in view of presentation
and comments no questions; Loftus: hardship criteria have been met; former
jurisdiction allowed; substandard lot; support. Arnold: concur with Commissioners;
Vonhof: agree with hardship criteria, staff report and comments.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ROSETH TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED 17
AND 60 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACKS INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 25 AND
85 FEET RESPECTIVELY.
Rationale: All hardship criteria have been met.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Roseth, Arnold and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM 5. SNODGRASS VARIANCE REOUEST:
Associate Planner Michael Leek presented the Planning Report dated May 22, 1995.
The Planning Department received a variance application from Michael G. Snodgrass for
17372 Sunset Trail SW. The subject property is legally described as Lot 29, FAIRVIEW
BEACH, Scott County, Minnesota. The applicant proposes to construct a second story
deck measuring 7 feet by 27 feet on the southwest side of the existing house. Access to
the deck would be gained by an existing door from the living room space. The specific
variance requested is 2.40 foot variance from the side yard setback. This would result in
a side yard setback of 7.60 feet instead of the required 10 feet.
The FAIRVIEW BEACH addition was platted in 1929. This subdivision was included in
the September 1975 annexation by the City. The rear of the property abuts Fairview
Road. The existing house was constructed in 1979. The property is narrow, measuring
49.97 feet at the front property line. It is also substandard in area (6096 square feet).
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If constructed as proposed, the deck would maintain about a 19 foot separation from the
house to the West. The subject property, because of its size and configuration, presents
few options for the location of a deck. Parenthetically, the house to the West, which is
similar in configuration, has a similar second-story deck. It does not appear that a
variance was granted in connection with that deck. Staff recommends approval of the
request because the ordinance hardship criteria have been met.
Mr. Leek also read a letter from Todd Hertaus, a neighbor of Mr. Snodgrass, who
supports the variance request.
No comments from the applicant, Michael Snodgrass or the audience.
Comments form the Commissioners included: Loftus: supportive of variances; hardship
criteria have been met; addition would add extra use of the house. Arnold: concurs with
Lofius; Roseth: concur with Staff and Commissioners; Vonhof: agrees.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED
2.4 FOOT VARIANCE TO ALLOW A SIDE YARD SETBACK OF 7.6 FEET
INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 10 FEET.
Rationale: Hardship criteria have been met.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM 3. MIDWEST CABLEVISION CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT:
Tim Block, the Chief Technician of Midwest Cablevision, of Prior Lake and Savage,
stated the CUP request was to erect a bulding on site. The intent is to upgrade the cable
television system which will increase reliability and add channel capacity for new
services. The building would house additional channel equipment, installing fiber optic
cables, laser receivers and various electronic components. Mr. Block addressed some of
the conditions of Resolution 95-08PC.
Assistant Planner Deb Garross discussed the details from the May 22, 1995 Planning
Report. The applicant, Midwest Cablevision, requests a conditional use permit in order to
locate a public utility building within the R-2, Urban Residential Zoning District. The
proposal is to construct a 20' x 20' building to house fiber optic equipment needed to
provide cable services to the community. Two previous CUP's were issued on November
9, 1983, and February 6, 1984, to North American Communications Corporation to locate
a receiving tower; two, 7 meter earth station antennas; and a 12' x 18' building to house
communications equipment on the subject site. In addition, a 115' height variance was
granted to construct a 150' receiving tower.
Since the 1984 approval, staff has inspected the site on a number of occasions and noted
that the landscape plan has not been completed and there have been other Ordinance
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violations. In addition, three satellite dishes have been erected on site without approved
building permits. The previous owner, North American Cable, and current owner were
contacted by former Planning Director, Horst Graser, via letter and phone calls advising
that site inspections revealed several Zoning Ordinance violations as well as violation of
the approved CUP, (related to incomplete landscaping). Corporate representatives for the
applicant did not respond to the letter nor phone conversations made by Mr. Graser in
1993-1994.
A site inspection was conducted the date that this agenda report was written. The
inspection revealed several Ordinance violations such as: garbage and refuse on site;
outside storage of two trailers; 12 large spools, located outside of the fenced area; 5
satellite dishes inside of the fenced area; countless large spools located inside of the wire
fence; unused utility boxes, wire, and an unscreened, broken dumpster.
Ron Habekorn, owner of Norex building stated his concern for misuse of the building.
When the permit was initially applied for in 1984, the issue was controversial in that it
was adjacent to a school and residential property and the Norex office building. It was
going to be treated as a public utility facility. Mr. Habekorn's impression of a public
facility would be to blend in with the neighborhood. His concern is the visibility impact
for all visitors as well as employees coming into their parking lot. He feels the site looks
like a light industrial district. Mr. Habekom would like to see the building appearance
improved to blend in with the area and the original intent of the permit upheld. He also
stated he would like to remain friends with Tim Block and try to work something out.
Tim Block said he was sorry for the inconvenience to Norex and will do whatever he can
to make improvements to the property.
Comments from the Planning Commission: Roseth: parties involved understand the
situation; Referring to Item #11 of conditions - recommend October or November as a
completion date instead of September; discussion on dish size and numbers. Loftus:
Norex is developed and concemed for image and positive impression. There have been
major changes from the beginning and need to harmonize the issues; suggest a tour or
slide presentation to bet a better feel for property and evaluate. Arnold: Supports
Resolution as it stands; some conditions can be worked out; discuss point by point.
Vonhof: Found it disturbing that Midwest Cablevision has not been in compliance with
the CUP; property has historically been in violation; letters have been sent notifying the
CUP violations and now is the time to remedy; some of the violations were in place
before Midwest Cablevision bought the site; this is the time to bring the site into
compliance; applicant should be aware of City's concems; there should be no violations
present before approval of the City; applicant should come back after complying; direct
Staff to go on site with applicant and address current Ordinance violations.
GENERAL DISCUSSION OF COMMISSIONERS: conditions of Resolution should be
complied with before they address this again; do not feel comfortable acting on the status
of the application at this time; suggest item be tabled until Ordinance violations have
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been resolved; Midwest Cablevision have been the owners for 3 years, while most
problems occurred before applicant obtained ownership.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO TABLE AND BRING BACK AT
THE DISCRETION OF THE APPLICANT AT SUCH TIMES AS HE HAS HAD TIME
TO TALK WITH STAFF AND CLARIFY THE COMPLAINTS AND RECTIFY THE
ORDINANCE VIOLATION ITEMS.
AMENDMENT BY LOFTUS: COMMISSIONERS TO SEE VISUAL AIDS OR
ARRANGE TO TAKE INSPECTION TOUR.
No discussion.
Votes taken signified ayes by Roseth, Loftus, Arnold and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
OTHER BUSINESS:
a) Capital Improvement Plan: City Planner Don Rye.
In a joint meeting with the City Council an issue came up with the Planning Commission
indicating its desire to play some role in the Capital Improvement Program. Council felt
it was appropriate to participate. Many of the issues are from Engineering and Rye would
like someone from Engineering to explain the process and rationale. Also, most of big
items are the City's share of County road improvements. Another budget issue is
directed to the Parks and Recreation Department for equipment and improvement of
existing facilities. One of the directives from Council is to explore funding for new
community park facilities. Public Work items revolve around County road
improvements.
GENERAL DISCUSSION OF COMMISSIONERS: The City pays for anything higher
than the standard improvements, i.e. lights, sidewalks; improvements to Mushtown Road
in 1996 and improvements to Pike Lake Trail in 1998; some projects are funded by
revenue bonds, Federal and State money; and State Aid, Capital Park Fund, referendums
and others. Commissioners have until July 17, 1995 to discuss.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY ROSETH TO CLOSE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Roseth, Loftus and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting was closed at 10:29 p.m.
Donald R. Rye
Director of Planning
Connie Carlson
Recording Secretary
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