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AGENDA
MONDAY, AUGUST 28, 1995
7:00 p.m.
HEARINGS:
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Call Meeting to Order
a) Review Minutes of Previous meeting.
Consent Items:
a) Resolution- 9520PC- Thielen Variance
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPLICATION FROM
RCS ASSOCIATES FOR SCHEMATIC PUD, REZONING,
PRELIMINARY PLAT, VARIANCE AND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS
"WILD OAKS." 13 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED NORTH
OF CONROY STREET, PRIOR LAKE
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A PROPOSED
AMENDMENT TO THE PRIOR LAKE YEAR 2000
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT KNOWN
AS "THE WILDS NORTH"
CONSIDER HOME OCCUPATION REQUEST FOR
LAURIE J. CAMPBELL, 16420 MANDAN AVENUE SE,
TO OPERATE A THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE BUSINESS.
CONSIDER APPEAL OF BUCKINGHAM DISPOSAL
FROM PLANNING DIRECTOR'S INTERPRETATION
THAT RECYCLING IS NOT PERMITTED IN THE 1-2
DISTRICT.
CONSIDER VARIANCE FOR RON AND KIM ANDERSON
FOR THE PROPERTY AT 4301 GRAINWOOD CIRCLE:
VARIANCE TO PERMIT A LOT AREA OF 6,516 SQ. FT.;
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16200 Eagle Creek Ave., Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372-1714 / Ph. (612) 447-4230 / Fax (612) 447-4245
AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER
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A 5 FT. FRONT YARD SETBACK ON THE EAST; A 27 FT.
LAKESHORE SETBACK; 5 FT. SIDE YARD SETBACK
ON THE WEST; AND A 3% VARIANCE ON THE
IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
CONSIDER VARIANCE FOR RON CEMINSKY OF 5239
BROOKS CIRCLE SE: TO ADD A THIRD GARAGE
STALL: 4 FT SIDE YARD VARIANCE TO THE EAST.
OTHER BUSINESS:
a) Planning Commission Chair Appointment
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
AUGUST, 28, 1995
The August 28, 1995, Planning Commission Meeting was called to order by
Commissioner Vonhof at 7:02 p.m. Present were Commissioners Arnold, Kuykendall,
Loftus, Roseth and Vonhof, Intem Commissioner Criego, City Planner Don Rye,
Associate Planner Michael Leek and Recording Secretary Connie Carlson.
ROLL CALL:
Arnold Present
Roseth Present
Lofius Present
Kuykendall Present
Vonhof Present
REVIEW MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 14, 1995 MEETING:
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 14,
1995 MINUTES.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Arnold, Kuykendall, Loftus and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA:
Thielen Variance - Resolution 95-20PC.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY KUYKENDALL, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION 95-20 PC.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Kuykendall, Loftus, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
ITEM 1: PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPLICATION FROM RCS
ASSOCIATES FOR SCHEMATIC PUD, REZONING. PRELIMINARY PLAT,
VARIANCE AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
KNOWN AS "WILD OAKS". 13 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED NORTH OF
CONROY STREET, PRIOR LAKE.
A sign-up sheet was circulated to the public.
Associate Planner Michael Leek presented the information in the Planning Report
prepared by Assistant Planner Deb Garross dated August 28, 1995.
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Highlights of the report included: The proposed PUD of Wild Oaks is not consistent with
preservation policies of the Comprehensive Plan related to steep slope natural features.
The proposal shows the development of townhouse units in areas of the property
containing 20% or greater, steep slopes. A second issue, although not a natural feature
defined by the Comprehensive plan, concerns tree removal on site. In order to address
potential clear cutting issues of the Shoreland District, the Schematic PUD should
include a tree inventory identifying the specific location and specie of each significant,
hardwood tree equal to or larger than 12" in caliper.
The developer requests approval of a variance to allow the cul-de-sac to be 586 feet in
length instead of the Subdivision Ordinance maximum of 500 feet.
Staff recommends the CUP be approved to allow for the formation of a back lot
association concurrent with the subdivision of Wild Oaks. The Planning Commission
should note the boat slips and any access to recreational amenities in The Harbor PUD
constitute a private agreement between the Wild Oaks Homeowners Association and The
Harbor Homeowners Association.
A letter from Attorney James Bates, representing Mr. John Gorra of 14133 Shady Beach
Trail, was entered into the record. Mr. Gorra's basic concern was the extension of
Conroy Street to Shady Beach Trail. His belief being it will reduce the value of his lots.
Also entered into the record was a letter from Scott County Highway Engineer, Brad
Larson, commenting on no direct access to County Road 42, concerns about
compatibility between land use and highways, complaints about noise and a request to the
developer to assess the noise impact of the roadway and take additional measures to
mitigate the problem. Mr. Larson would like the City to review the setback requirements
along County Road 42.
The Staff recommendation was to table or continue the public hearings to a date and time
certain and provide the developer with a detailed list of items or information to be
provided for future Planning Commission review.
Mr. Dick Krier of James J. Hill, Inc., Planning and Engineering, introduced the applicant,
Mr. William Hayden, Mr. James Sanders, the attorney for applicant, and Mr. Roy
Anderson of Midwest Landscapes, the landscape and tree preservation specialist. Mr.
Krier proceeded to explain the development and describe the site. His main points were:
· Developing 23 townhomes as opposed to the 28 units allowed by City Ordinance.
· Agreeing to pay for the construction of Conroy Street at the request of the City
Engineer at the developer's expense rather than making it a burden on the property
owners in the area. This will not benefit the development.
· Developer is exceeding the standards of the Ordinance related to landscaping - no
clear cutting, preserving many existing trees and planting several more. Spending
$100,000 on retaining walls to preserve trees.
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· Installing a drainage NURP pond to protect the wetland. Water coming into the
wetland at the present time is not cleaned at all.
· Constructing a larger roadway/cul-de-sac than the Ordinance requires to
accommodate emergency and public safety equipment is a substantial cost to the
developer.
· This is a R-1 zoning district with a shoreland overlay district, and given the standards
for a single family subdivision, the developer can get almost the same number of
homes, without preserving the trees or constructing the street.
Mr. Roy Anderson of Midwest Landscapes, Maple Grove, presented overheads of
proposed retaining walls and methods to preserve trees. The site requires 79 trees yet the
developer will provide 89.
Jim Sanders, attorney for the project, explained the developer agreed to construct Conroy
Street, which is an improvement for exchange for the additional 3 townhouse units. In
respect to the Harbor Association, Mr. Sanders felt it is a matter of a private contract,
private covenants and conditions between the developments and not a matter involving
the Planning Commission. It is not a legal requirement in the City Ordinances.
Mr. Krier addressed the steep slope issue. Staff recommended moving the cul-de-sac
which would be a better alternative than removing the slope and trees. The wetland will
be drainage to Savage as well as Prior Lake. There are two alternatives in constructing
Conroy Street - 1) Build up as a horseshoe as it is now or 2) Build up and connect with
Shady Beach Trail. Both alternatives are acceptable to the City Engineer. The City owns
the easement on Lot 13 to Shady Beach Trail. Issues would be traffic and 2 existing
homes. Culverts would be installed to avoid flooding.
Comments from the audience:
Tom Keamey, 6424 Conroy Street, stated his concern for Prior Lake's Tree Preservation
Policy. (Leek - The City does not have a current policy at this time. The Subdivision,
Shoreland Districts and PUD section of the Zoning Ordinance address clear-cutting and
preservation of natural features.) Mr. Keamey inquired on the inventory of the trees and
preserving trees less than 12 inches. He also feels grading will be hard on the existing
trees, hills and wetlands. It is important to him not to destroy an area like this. Mr.
Kearney suggested the City look into neighboring Tree Preservation plans.
Scott Roth, 6394 Conroy Street, felt there is no hardship for the variance request on the
cul-de-sac. He presented pictures of the existing trees to the Commissioners. Mr. Roth's
concern was the developer taking too many trees and excavation will harm the existing
trees. He would like to see 4 to 6 inch trees left as well. The proposed development will
not work in that area with the wetland and steep grade. He feels the overhead proposal is
not an accurate reflection of the area. This area is workable with a fewer homes.
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Calena Townsend, 6565 Harbor Place, presented a petition in opposition of the 23
townhomes in the area, the removal of trees and the impact it will have on Prior Lake and
surrounding residents.
Dave Frees, will be a resident at 6346 Conroy Street, agrees with the Staff on the
construction of the slope. The oak trees will be affected with the excavation and will take
a long time to replace. Erosion into the wetlands is his primary concern.
Dean Olson, 6412 Conroy Street, said there are not many places for his children to play
and the parks are too far away. His other concern is for the construction of Conroy Street.
There are blind spots on the road and he hopes it will be constructed in a safe manner.
Bill Townsend, 6565 Harbor Place, will soon be moving to Conroy Street, and his main
concern is for the runoff of the new development and how this is going to be managed
with Savage using the wetland as well. The pond will not maintain its natural vegetation.
He hopes the Commission will follow StafFs recommendation in connection with the
watershed issues. Mr. Townsend's other concern is to make Conroy Street a cul-de-sac
as it would maintain the existing character of the area and without planning the road
carefully part of the wetland will be lost. He urges the Commission to take their time and
get more input on this matter.
Ted Schweich, 6436 Conroy Street, stated one of his issues is the cash donation for the
park. He has smaller children who cannot walk to neighboring parks. Mr. Schweich
feels the developer should provide a tot lot for the neighborhood. He also feels the
impervious surface coverage should be addressed. The construction of Conroy Street will
increase traffic. He realizes the land has to be developed but was told by the owner, Wes
Green, there would only be six homes constructed in the area.
Mr. Leek addressed some of the above issues: Two-thirds of the site is zoned R-1 and the
density of 28 units is correct. The maximum building coverage is 9% and well within the
performance coverage.
Mike Sweeney, lives on Lot 10, 11 and 12, addressed the surfacing of Conroy Street. He
feels constructing a cul-de-sac would be the better alternative as there are not enough
people using the road at the present time. His other concerns are to save the trees and the
coverage issue with the wetland. Constructing the street is under 15 feet from his deck as
well as his neighbor's. It would eliminate huge portions of their lots reducing their
property values. Mr. Sweeney suggests tabling the matter.
Rick Devine, 10401 Shady Beach Trail, agrees with Mr. Sweeney and does not want to
see a through street. There is no benefit to anyone with Conroy Street as a through street.
Would like to see a cul-de-sac constructed.
Peter Coyle, attorney for the Harbor Association addressed the Conditional Use Permit.
He feels it is not a private matter between the developments and would like the Staff and
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City Attorney to review the issues to verify there is not a conflict with the private
contractual rights the Association has to the property. As he reads the legal description
attached to the Conditional Use Application, it is his impression Wilds Oaks is seeking to
establish public domain on all of the common area within the Harbor. Access to the
recreational acres should be worked out.
Mr. Leek stated the City Attorney can look into the legal description and common areas
of the Harbor. The anticipated access to Prior Lake is through the 6 boat slips in
connection with the Harbor. This is a private matter between the parties. It is possible
for the Harbor Association to join in the application for the Conditional Use Permit.
Carol Scott, 6370 Conroy, is disturbed by the clear cutting and the definition of it. The
Shoreland Management was drafted by State Statute and there were some things the City
could change and some thing's that could not be changed. Mrs. Scott suggested the City
contact the DNR for their definition of clear cutting. She objects to a PUD that it does
not have to abide by the Shoreland Management Ordinance. (Mr. Leek stated PUDs in a
shoreland district uphold those standards.) Mrs. Scott pointed out an area that was
recently placed in the torrens system and came under the ownership of the residents on
one side of the road. In the process some of the properties who opposed the process were
given a recreational easement along the lake. Mrs. Scott heard the Association has plans
to buy one of the lots that have the recreational easement so they can use it. She would
like to see something in the Developer's Agreement or a provision of the PUD to prohibit
the Association from using the recreational easement. She agrees with the residents of
Conroy Bay that 6 single family residents would be feasible rather than this development.
Linda Anderson, 14053 Greenway, has the same concerns for density, trees, the runoff to
the wetland and the street going through. She said if the street goes through it would be a
traffic nightmare.
Martin Polasik, 14087 Shady Beach Trail, concern was for the road extension into Shady
Beach Trail. The traffic flow is a big concern and he would prefer to see a cul-de-sac
which would eliminate the problem.
Calina Townsend, moving to 6300 Conroy Street, would like to take issue with the
developer. The developer assumes most of the people buying the townhomes will be
empty nesters. She feels they will be young professionals raising children. She said the
Commission should check out the ability of the developer to fund this project, what has
he done in the past, is it possible he is going to go broke and what will happen with a
partially done project. Mr. Green always seems to end up with the property and makes a
profit. Residents did not ask for the Conroy Street improvements.
Ed Reese, 6520 Harbor View Circle, invited the Commissioners to come out and see the
area. The area has limited parking space and narrow streets. He would like the
Commissioners to take a closer look at the capabilities.
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Kathy Bachelor, 10469 Greenway, stated property owner, Wes Green told her there
would be 6 executive homes in this area. She would like the area to stay quiet with low
traffic and preservation of the wetland. Traffic is an issue for the residents with small
children. She realizes there is going to be development but asks the Commission take
into consideration what the residents are asking.
Bob Prchal, 6406 Conroy Street, requested to table the matter and drive out and to see the
area. It is an extremely challenging area to develop.
Comments from the Commissioners:
Arnold: Ideally 6 executive lots would be the way to go but that is not proposed; the
advantage of a PUD is the City has some control; property is awfully congested; has a lot
of concern for the number of trees removed; would like to see an invemory of trees by
location; and inventory of trees 6 inches or greater; he would like to see as much of the
steep slope preserved as possible; good concerns brought up by audience on drainage in
the southwest corner of property - we need more information in that regard; suggestion of
cul-de-sac makes sense; concern for the additional three townhomes to make up the
difference in construction of Conroy Street. (Leek responded it would make additional
access into the area, more room for public safety with the approved developments north
of Prior Lake and Savage. With Savage in the watershed, there is serious need to address
the way the drainage works in this area. The improvement of the roadway and storm
sewer improvements go hand in hand.) (Assistant Engineer John Wingard explained the
developer will be responsible for mitigation by creating 2 acres of wetland for every 1
acre filled that are taken out. It should provide more water storage and with the
upgrading of Conroy Street more water will be held in the pond.) Commissioners need to
see the contours of the wetland.
Roseth: Agrees with Commissioner Arnold; would like to know more about Savage
dumping into the lake in written form with comments and diagrams; want to verify and
see the 23 units; would rather see 6 single family homes; would like to see elevation after
minimal excavation; see a before and a proposed after plan; can see Conroy Street as a
through street for tying in neighborhoods and for safety access - either cul-de-sac with a
walking path or break away portion for police and fire; research the 6 slips with the CUP;
need definition of clear cutting and who is responsible for the Harbor CUP.
Loftus: concern for trees and steep slope; feels we should table for more information; a
PUD may not be the answer; should have public paybacks through a PUD; park fund
should have green space for the public, particularly if there is more traffic; there are legal
issues on the CUP that have to be worked out; lake access has to be determined by
attorneys.
Kuykendall: comments well received by audience; taken in a positive vein by
developers and Commissioners; suggest to table motion.
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Criego: consider cul-de-sac for safety which is important for 23 additional homes;
drainage is important and should be investigated; recommend to table.
Vonhof: concur with Commissioners; additional information should come to us; suggest
to table.
Mr. Krier stated one of the issues Staff asked them to do is to extend Conroy Street. If
the Conroy Street matter can be resolved it would help them know how to develop the
area. They are willing to do this either way.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY ROSETH TO TABLE THE SCHEMATIC
PUD, REZONING, PRELIMINARY PLAT, VARIANCE AND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT.
Discussion: All Commissioners will go out on the site; will not table to exceed more
than 60 days.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Roseth, Kuykendall, Loftus and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Amold, Loftus, Kuykendall, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
A recess was called at 9:44 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 9:51 p.m.
ITEM #2 PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO
THE PRIOR LAKE YEAR 2000 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT
KNOWN AS "THE WILDS NORTH".
A sign-up sheet was circulated to the public in attendance.
Planning Director Don Rye presented the information in the Planning Report dated
August 28, 1995.
A summary of his report is as follows:
The applicant, RKB Inc. applied to amend the Comprehensive Plan land use designation
on the subject property from Agricultural to Commercial, extend the Municipal Urban
Service Area (MUSA) to include the subject property and to change the zoning
designation from A-l, Agricultural to B-l, Limited Business. The subject property is a
parcel of land located at the southeast comer of the intersection of County Roads 42 and
83 and having an area of 19.5 acres. Material submitted in support of the application
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shows potential land uses to include a gasoline service station, fast food restaurants,
grocery store, hardware store, banks and dry cleaning. The land use mix is indicated as
being conceptual in nature. The applicant has indicated the first phase of the development
will consist of a gasoline station and fast food restaurant.
The Staff recommendation and finding is the general designation of Commercial is
appropriate and direct further consideration of commercial land use alternatives with
emphasis on destination-type land uses for the site and proper land use controls while
deferring action on the zoning change.
Timn Jacobs, Project Director for the Wilds, emphasized two issues, usage of the land
and the rezoning of the land. The configuration of the road would be determined at the
preliminary plat/final plat application. The reason this proposal did include some
indication of access was because of issues with Scott County concerning what they could
do and not do. Timing is important - the Comprehensive Plan has been delayed. Before
the delay, The Wilds made contractual arrangements with Amoco and McDonalds. Mr.
Jacobs said staff recommended applying for an amendment. Mr. Jacobs feels there are
not a lot of services in this area. He is confident the surrounding area will be residential.
Mr. Jacobs also explained the buffer area between the commerical and residential
properties.
Jim Halek, 14869 Manitou Road, said he had some involvement with The Wilds
conception. Mr. Halek would like the commerical area to help with his taxes and feels it
would benefit Prior Lake.
Tom Chaklos, owns the 40 acres at the half mile point referred to. He feels The Wilds
needs the zoning change. His concern is for the access road. (Rye explained the
County's policy and the guidelines.) Mr. Chaklos would also like to see the speed limit
dropped to 45 mph. (Commissioner Vonhof stated they could make the request. Rye
explained the request process.)
Court McFarlane, speaking for Dick Klimmeck, has a concern with the 2010
Comprehensive Plan and how it will affect the current land owners. This decision will
also have an impact on future developments. The Klimmecks do not want to see a delay
in the 2010 plan because of what is happening with this rezoning. (Rye - more emphasis
has been put on the 2010 Plan than is warranted. Adopting the plan does not mean it is
all going to change - the City is still bound by the MUSA extensions and the
Metropolitan Council makes the decisions.)
Monica Anderson, 2853 140th Street NW, stated no one has approached them on the
access issue on County Road 42.
Timn Jacobs, addressed Mrs. Anderson's concern, he did not receive the letter from the
City until late last week and was not able to do that process and fully intend to alleviate
her concern and get a mutual agreement worked out.
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Ray Peterson, 13901 Canterbury, lives directly across the proposed development. He is
concerned about the access on County Road 42 and how they are going to handle the
wetland. The intersection is very dangerous. He has a concern for spot development. He
would prefer to see an overall plan. Whether they develop it now or later is immaterial.
There is also indication of a lift station and he would like to know the cost to maintain
and how is he affected, i.e. higher assessments. His neighbors are concerned with these
proposed changes as well.
Comments from Commissioners:
Roseth: no problem with the MUSA extension - actually taking out more property than
putting back in; the property is going to develop; the City needs commercial property;
likes the concept; need the ins and outs of the access and speed limits.
Loftus: down side on spot zoning on an overloaded comer; logical development other
places; concern with dealing with an estate of the party involved in the land exchange.
Kuykendall: in general supports Staff recommendation; the only reservation he fails to
see any fiscal impact statement made or put together; would like to see a total cost benefit
analysis of all the pending public improvements giving different scenarios; if it is a plus
to the City economically when is it going to pay off?. When do we break even? Would
like to see the numbers before we proceed.
Arnold: comment in the Staff Report that the Metropolitan Council prefers a two to one
exchange when it is commerical; will this be approved by the Metropolitan Council. Are
they going to look at this as a good exchange? (Rye explained the major and minor
amendments. This would fall into the minor amendment category - not a significant
change in the regional system.) Explanation of originally trading 20 acres to
Metropolitan Council's recommendation of 40 acres.
Criego: The 2010 Plan indicates a portion of the area was going to be rezoned
commercial; we are basically moving ahead of the Plan. (Rye - the general land use
designation of commerical is acceptable there are other concerns need to be addressed
further, one being, the emphasis on destination land uses. Another is, what the proper
zoning approach should be. May want to include in the Comprehensive Plan Amendment
some specific direction provided for that property so there is a basis when the zoning is
amended to reflect that rather than trying to negotiate it at the time the zoning process is
conducted.) safety issue with traffic; it is up to developers to determine the land
destination.
Vonhof.' no objection to plan - the Notice was for 20 acres not 40 acres; agree with
Commissioner Criego in relation to moving ahead with the plan; changing conditions on
the west side of the City; heavy traffic on County Road 42; we should get a determination
on the acreage.
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Open Discussion: the City does not control the Mystic Lake Casino traffic; would like
to talk about this in more detail; need to see finance numbers; issue today is - do we want
commerical?; better zoned B-1; issue of 20 vs. 40 acres; green acres program;
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO TABLE THE MATTER TO THE
SEPTEMBER ! 1, 1995 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Kuykendall, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY ROSETH TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Roseth, Kuykendall, Loftus and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
Commissioner Kuykendall requested Staff to obtain more information on costs, the
impact and additional traffic improvement.
ITEM #3 CONSIDER HOME OCCUPATION REQUEST FOR LAURIE J.
CAMPBEIJ,, 16420 MANDAN AVENUE SE, TO OPERATE A THERAPEUTIC
MASSAGE BUSINESS.
Associate Planner Michael Leek presented the information in the Staff Report dated
August 28, 1995. Staff recommended approval with the following conditions:
1. No off-site parking. On-site parking for a maximum of two (2) customer vehicles must be
provided.
2. No exterior signs identifying the business, its products, or services.
3. No sale of products on the premises.
4. No employees beyond the one (1) applicant/operator.
5. The home occupation permit may not be sold, transferred or assigned.
6. The Home Occupation permit is subject to all applicable ordinance and legal requirements.
Violation of any ordinance or legal requirement shall be deemed grounds for immediate
revocation of the Home Occupation Permit.
7. The Home Occupation may be reviewed annually by the City.
Applicant Laurie Campbell stated she was present and had nothing to add to the Staff
Report.
Comments from Commissioners:
Loftus: supportive of application and recommends adoption of the Resolution.
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Commissioners Kuykendall, Arnold, Roseth, Criego and VonhoE all supportive of
the application.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
9525PC.
Vote taken signified ayes by Lofius, Arnold, Kuykendall, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
ITEM #4 CONSIDER APPEAL OF BUCKINGHAM DISPOSAL FROM
PLANNING DIRECTOR'S INTERPRETATION THAT RECYCLING IS NQT
PERMITTED IN THE I-2 DISTRICT.
Planning Director Don Rye presented the Staff Report dated August 28, 1995.
In June, the City Staff was made aware of the operation of a recycling operation
conducted by Buckingham Disposal at 5980 Credit River Road. The facility was opened
without benefit of a Certificate of Occupancy and a subsequent determination was made
by the Planning Director that the use was not a permitted or conditional use in the I-2
zoning district. The ordinance currently defines light manufacturing as "the process and
fabrication of certain materials where no process involved will produce noise, vibrations,
air pollution, fire hazards or noxious emissions which will disturb or endanger
neighboring properties." Fabricate is defined as "To construct by combining and
assembling" while manufacturing is defined as "to make or process a raw material into a
finished product, esp. by means of a large-scale industrial operation." The owner of
Buckingham Disposal is appealing this decision pursuant to Section 7.4 of the zoning
ordinance. The Board of Adjustment has the responsibility to hear the appeal and make a
recommendation to the City Council to either uphold the interpretation by staff,
determine the staff interpretation was incorrect and grant the appeal or to recommend
some alternative resolution of the issue such as a zoning ordinance amendment.
John Cairns, attorney representing Tom Buckingham, owner of Buckingham Disposal
explained the recycling process. Buckingham Disposal is the designated Scott County
drop off station. The property and building was upgraded. The manufacturing process is
done inside the building. Mr. Cairns suggested not following StafFs recommendation
and asked to table the matter, monitor the operation for 6 month and watch the success
rate. Mr. Cairns also invited the Commissioners to view the operation.
Tom Buckingham, owner of Buckingham Disposal stated he is a resident of Prior Lake
and has been in the business for over 20 years. They want to be good neighbors, are up
front and run a clean operation.
Comments from Commissioners:
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Kuykendall: from the description given by applicant it sounds like manufacturing;
should fit in designation; would like to see specific performance issues in the Conditional
Use and Permitted Use in our Zoning Ordinance; supports the issue.
Arnold: has a problem seeing this as a manufacturing business; would like to see the
business in Prior Lake; the process of getting amendment changed is 60 days; debate
between the manufacturing process; feels the operation should continue but concerned it
is not in the Ordinance.
Roseth: recommends item #3 as recommended by Staff is to make a determination
where in the City this would fit - under what zone. (Rye - It does not fit the current
Ordinance.) feels it should fit somewhere in the City; thinks it fits under Conditional
Use whether it is specified or not.
Loftus: Agree with Commissioner Roseth; one distinction is that it is automatic; making
it a Conditional Use can set certain controls; knows Buckingham runs a good operation
and is an asset to the community; Buckingham should apply for a Conditional Use
Permit; Commission needs to know details of the operation; noise is a factor as well as
hours of operation.
Criego: property being used for other purposes; (Becker Arena is an assembly process
on the other side of the building.) all operation is inside of building; trash is outside
building. (Lofius - could screen it - related to outside storage.)
Kuykendall: the issue is definition; manufacturing does not cause noise, air pollution,
vibrations or fire hazard; operation crushes cans inside the building; noise outside the
building is an issue; meets definition.
Vonhof: in reading over the correspondence between the City and Buckingham Disposal
I can see the Planning Staff acting as zoning officers looked at this and said it doesn't fit
any of the definitions we have in our opinions; agrees with Commissioner Kuykendall it
is a manufacturing process and our Ordinance is deficient in that it does not have
recycling in it; it is not listed in any of the other City zones; this was a determination
Staff had to make and I disagree; we do not want to get into the business of looking
internally into every process.
Open discussion: there is going to be only one recycling business in the City, probably
the County; if the matter can come under Conditional Use Permit, notices would be sent
out; there would be more information and we can set conditions; noise is a factor; meets
definition - it is manufacturing; it is a finished product ready to sell.
Tom Foster, 5795 Shannon Trail, stated he felt the Commissioners were on the right
track-the business is light manufacturing. He has a process ready to sell to his customer.
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MOTION BY KUYKENDALL, SECOND BY LOFTUS, RECOMMEND CITY
COUNCIL UPHOLD THE APPELLANT AND DIRECT TERMINATION OF THE
ZONING ORDINANCE ENFORCEMENT.
Rationale: Based upon the definition of light manufacturing as discussed in this meeting.
Discussion: agrees with definition of manufacturing which makes it a conditional use;
(Rye - The City will let them operate and not enforce while a determination is made.
This initiated a process that could conceivably result in them being able to continue
without any problem.) suggestion to recommend alternate #3 of the Staff Report; put
under conditional use; with the information presented to the Planning Commission it fits
the definition of manufacturing.
Vote taken signified ayes by Vonhof, Loftus, and Kuykendall; nays by Arnold and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
Recommendation to City Council will be to uphold the appellant and direct termination
of the zoning ordinance enforcement based upon the criteria above.
ITEM #5 CONSIDER VARIANCE FOR RON AND KIM ANDERSON FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4301 GRAINWOOD CIRCLE: VARIANCE TO
PERMIT A LOT AREA OF 6~516 SQUARE FEET; A 5 FOOT FRONT YARD
SETBACK ON TI-IE EAST. A 27 FOOT LAKESI-IORE SETBACK ON TI-IE
WEST; AND A 30/$ VARIANCE ON TIlE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
Associate Planner Michael Leek presented the information in the Staff Report dated
August 28, 1995.
Kim Anderson went over the changes in their footprint - removal of the third stall garage;
the walkway and porch going into the home was dropped three feet so it does not count in
the impervious surface coverage. By making it a two car garage and taking a couple of
feet off the back of the house they did gain some lakeshore setback. She talked to DNR,
Hydrologist, Pat Lynch who told her he would not be making a formal reply to what they
had done, he had seen it and he felt they had made an honest good faith effort but it was
not part of DNR's policy to respond a revamp. Mrs. Anderson talked to Dave at Valley
Survey and explained the reason they are at the 9.91 is because of the way the lot is
angled. They are at 50 feet in the front and 49.03 in the back. She then presented
pictures of the lot. Mrs. Anderson also stated they have the neighborhood support with
the signatures at the last meeting. They took the information the Commissioners
suggested and changed their plans.
Jim Halek, built the house on 4255 Grainwood last year. This is a similar plan to his
where variances were granted. This plan would enhance the neighborhood. He is
supportive of the variances.
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Comments from Commissioners:
Arnold: applicants did a good job of getting the coverage ratio down; major effort to
change; supports variances.
Roseth: neighbors have variances; agree variances are need to build a reasonable house;
Loftus: similar comments; feels the same - attempted to down size, believes there is a
hardship; supportive.
Kuykendall: really trying to cram on a small lot; still off on the coverage; cannot support
hardship criteria # 1; grandfather clause could be used in this matter.
Criego: neighbors support variances; hardship standards have been met; feels you can
have a smaller house on the property; if this is approved, where are we going to stop?;
feels the property has to have a home on it but it should be smaller.
Jim Halek stated he has built approximately 18 lots on Prior Lake in the last two years.
Previous lakeshore owners received many variances. When the bridge opens the values
on the lake will become much greater. People are not going to be building cabins on the
lake - it will be their home. The better the homes, the better the taxes. We have to
continue to attract the right people. We have to upgrade the homes on the lake.
Vonhof.' there is no building envelope on the property without variances; meets hardship
criteria; the proposal in front of us is a much more reasonable proposal than the original;
variances should be approved.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD TO GRANT THE REQUESTED
VARIANCES.
Discussion: the envelope requires variances; made an attempt and came back with a
more reasonable proposal; there are other similar properties; granted similar variances in
neighborhood; have to look beyond this piece of property - is this how we want the
neighborhood to look? reflects the neighborhood.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Kuykendall, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
ITEM #6 CONSIDER VARIANCE FOR RON CEMINSKY OF 5239 BROOKS
CIRCLE SE; TO ADD A THIRD CAR GARAGE STALL; 4 FOOT SIDE YARD
VARIANCE TO THE EAST.
Associate Planner Michael Leek presented the information in the Staff Report dated
August 28, 1995. Staff recommends denial of the variances based on the Findings, the
hardship criteria has not been met.
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Ron Ceminsky, stated he lived in Prior Lake for 17 years and built this house in 1977.
He is asking for a variance to add a third car stall to store materials. His neighbor does
not oppose the addition. Mr. Ceminsky passed out pictures of his property to the
Commissioners. According to the current ordinance he can add 8 feet but needs 12 feet.
He feels he can not expand in the back yard because it is heavily wooded.
Comments from the Commissioners:
Roseth: in looking at this it is hard to justify a 4 foot variance; we like to save trees but
he has the room in the back yard; it is not a hardship.
Loftus: if a person builds within the code, they do not need a variance; this house was
built and designed for the lot; given the large lot area it is not a hardship to add a third car
garage.
Kuykendall: move the shed and take out a tree; cannot justify; can put storage space
behind garage; could rent storage for his business; it is applicant's decision on tree value.
Arnold: there is no way to justify a variance with a lot this size; understand not wanting
to move the trees but this is for storage and not a hardship.
Vonhof: concurs with Commissioner Loftus; it is a situation where we look at the total
square footage; suggest to put addition behind.
MOTION BY KUYKENDALL, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO DENY REQUEST FOR 4
FOOT SIDE YARD VARIANCE.
Discussion: No demonstrated hardship for the basis of the motion. Recommendation to
go to an architect. There are other options.
Vote taken signified ayes by Kuykendall, Loftus, Roseth, Arnold and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
Mr. Ceminsky felt the Staff and Commissioners do not care. He feels there is a hardship
by removing the two trees and shed. (Leek stated it is not fair to say Staff and
Commissioners do not care but they have to follow the hardship criteria.)
Commissioner Vonhof explained the process of appeal.
OTHER BUSINESS:
a) Planning Commission Chair Appointment.
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MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD TO RECOMMEND TO CITY
COUNCIL THE NOMINATION OF DICK KUYKENDALL AS CHAIRMAN OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Roseth and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Loftus, Kuykendall, Arnold and Vonhof. MOTION
CARRIED.
The meeting adjourned at 12:59 a.m.
Don Rye
Director of Planning
Connie Carlson
Recording Secretary
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