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AGENDA
Thursday, February 3, 1994
7:30 p.m.
7:35 p.m. 1.
8:30 p.m. 2.
8:45 p.m. 3.
Call meeting to order.
a) Review minutes of previous meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING - Sign Ordinance
PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED-to consider Ordinance 94-05
establishing minimum setback and slope standards for driveway
construction.
CONDITIONAL USE HEARING CONTINUED-permit for
Dan Reiland to operate a bed and breakfast at 5365 Shore Trail.
Ali times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the exception of Public
Hearings, are approximate and may start a few minutes earlier or later than the scheduled
time.
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February 3, 1994
The February 3, 1994, Planning Commission Meeting was called to order by Chairman Arnold
at 7:30 P.M. Those present were Commissioners Roseth, Arnold, Loftus, Vonhof, Director of
Planning Horst Graser, Assistant City Planner Deb Garross, Associate Planner Gina Mitchell,
and Secretary Rim Schewe.
REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
MOTION BY LOb-qTJS, SECOND BY VONHOF, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
WRITTEN.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Roseth, Loftus, and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
A recess was called at 7:31 P.M. to await the next scheduled agenda item. The meeting was
reconvened at 7:35 P.M.
ITEM I - PUBLIC HEARING - SIGN ORDINANCE
The Public Hearing was called to order at 7:35 P.M. The public was in attendance and a sign-up
sheet was circulated.
Steve Grittman of Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc., 5775 Wayzata Blvd. St. Louis Park,
presented the a brief summary on the proposed sign ordinance amendment. This draft ordinance
is the result of over three years of work including public workshops, meetings with business
owners, and Staff comments.
Ray Lemley, Hollywood Bar & Grill, 16701 Toronto Ave. SE, stated his concerns on various
sections of the proposed ordinance, ie: streamers, pennants, banners, animated signs, flashing
signs, and billboards. Mr. Lemley felt that traffic will increase and businesses should be able to
advertise and direct the public to Prior Lake. He also stated that the sign for his business was not
of adequate footage to allow the sign to be visible from a distance.
Deb Garross, Assistance City Planner, addressed Mr. Lemley's concerns in regard to the bank
signs. These are defined as electronic message sign and are permitted. Members of the
Commission had concerns on streamers and wanted this issue addressed. City Staff has received
favorable comments from the public regarding the exclusion of billboards in Prior Lake.
Dick Casey, Viking Liquor Barrel, 16290 Hwy 13 South, gave a brief outline of the problems he
encountered when he applied for a sign for his business. Mr. Casey felt that liquor stores should
be given extra allowance due to the restrictions from the State Statutes on liquor establishments.
The only place he can advertise product signs is in the windows and objected to the reduction of
75% to 50% for window display advertising. He also felt this ordinance is too restrictive to the
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liquor stores. Several items Mr. Casey disagreed with were; the time and size allowed for balloon
signs, balloons should be allowed for special occasions, and illuminated signs.
Comments from the Commissioners were; regulations of liquor stores, billboard restrictions,
window advertising, free-standing sign measurement, strobe lights, grade measurements, not in
favor of 50% window display, snipe signs, balloon signs regulations,
At 8:35 P.M. Chairman Arnold stated the Sign Ordinance Public Hearing will be continued to the
end of the agenda as a second public hearing was scheduled for 8:30 P.M.
ITEM H - PUBLIC HEARING - DRIVEWAY STANDARDS - TO CONSIDER
ORDINANCE 94-05
The Public Hearing was called to order at 8:38 P.M. This public hearing was continued and is to
consider amending the zoning and subdivision ordinances to incorporate driveway standards.
Deb Gal'ross, Assistant City Planner, presented the information as per the Planning Report of
February 3, 1994. The changes outlined by the Commissioners at the January 20, 1994, meeting
were incorporated into the proposed Ordinance 94-05.
Comments from the Commissioners discussed the changes and were in support of the proposal.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY VONHOF, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 94-05 AMENDING THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION
ORDINANCES TO INCORPORATE DRIVEWAY STANDARDS AS REVISED.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Vonhof, Arnold, and Loftus. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ROSETH, TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Roseth, Vonhof, and Arnold. MOTION CARRIED. Public
Hearing was closed at 8:45 P.M.
A recess was called at 8:45 P.M. and the meeting reconvened at 8:50 P.M.
ITEM HI - CONDITIONAL USE CONTINUED - DAN REILAND
Dan Reiland, 5365 Shore Trail, stated he wishes to operate a bed and breakfast facility at his
residence and is requesting a conditional use to obtain this goal. The house has seven bedrooms,
it would be owner occupied, only one meal will be served to the guests, no liquor, and the guests
would not be using the lake. There is a six car garage and parldng for 12 vehicles. The facility
has been inspected for code compliance. The highest number of guests at one time would be
eight.
Deb Garross, Assistant City Planner, presented the information as per the Planning Report of
February 3, 1994. The Zoning Ordinance does not specifically contain a provision for bed and
breakfast operations, therefore the application is fried for a conditional use permit for a boarding
house within a R-1 Zone. Staff has researched twenty cities and received information from
eleven which is attached to the report. In reviewing this information it is clear community's
regulate bed & breakfast uses by conditional use permit and have specific performance criteria
applied to them.
The Planning Commission has several alternatives regarding the conditional use application.
The Commission can recommend that the definition of boarding house be broadened by granting
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the conditional use permit. A second alternative is to approve the conditional use permit subject
to similar conditions that are required of a bed and breakfast by other Cities. A third alternative
is to table or continue the item for further information. If it is the intent of the Planning
Commission to allow a bed and breakfast operation, the decision could be made to place a
moratorium on such operations until the Zoning Ordinance can be properly amended to include
specific conditions for bed and breakfast operations as well as def'me appropriate zones for their
location. The f'mal alternative is to deny the conditional use permit based upon an insufficient
application and inconsistency with the Zoning Ordinance.
Recommendation from Staff is to deny the conditional use permit application because the Zoning
Ordinance does not contain provisions to adequately regulate a bed and breakfast facility and
approval could result in a negative precedent potentially detrimental to the health and welfare of
existing neighborhoods.
A letter received this week from Velda Murins of 5415 Shore Trail, opposing the bed and
breakfast application was noted for the record. Letters from the following individuals stating
their opposition to the conditional use permit were received earlier and are included in the
Planning Report: Andris Valdmanis, 5425 Shore Trail; Nancy A. Nelson, 5381 Shore Trail NE;
Joseph & Bonnie Bush, 5281 Shore Trail NE; Gretchen Bush Wilmes,(no address given); Steven
C. Andree, 14520 Shore Lane.
Ed McCorkell, 5475 Shore Trail NE, asked about deed restrictions and covenants not allowing
the property to be commercial. Mr. McCorkell was advised this is part of the homeowners
association and/or property owners responsibility to research.
Vik Kontors, 5386 Shore Trail NE, opposed the application citing increased pedesu'ian and
vehicular traffic, lake use, too many non-residents, and property would be affected. Mr. Kontors
asked if the road used to the lake for a commercial use can be used without the residents
permission.
Nancy Peterson, 5330 Shore Trial, voiced her opposition to the
application. The area is residential, codes are not in place for this use, and a precedent would be
set. Typically a bed and breakfast is in a historical home or area. This neighborhood is not
conducive to a bed and breakfast facility.
Commissioner comments were; Roseth: Age of house, legal description of site, use is not
outlined in the code, and is not in favor of the application; Vonhof: Homes are usually on the
historical register, no sidewalks in area, traffic increase, question on the common driveway used
as access to lake and use is not consistent with the neighborhood; Loftus: Felt conditional use
can be allowed if conditions are met, there are no homes in Prior Lake that are 75 years old of a
significant structure, site has a beautiful vista, concept of boarding house code is antiquated,
alternate use to consider for large houses when families leave home, and asked the applicant how
he intended to market the use and what type of clientele he was anticipating; Arnold-could see
both sides of question and concept has potential but the code does not specifically address the
situation.
Dan Reiland stated that the length of stay would be one or two nights, the charge would be
$100-$125 per night, one full breakfast, use of rear yard, sun room and deck. The stays would be
from Tuesday to Saturday. The criteria for bed and breakfast uses are set by a Bed & Breakfast
Association.
Janice Thornton, 5485 Shore Trail, stated she had stayed in bed and breakfast establishments in
Europe and Illinois. She was pleased with the accommodations, but would be opposed to a bed
and breakfast in her neighborhood.
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Discussion followed on tabling the application, applicant signing a waiver on time limit, should
be a resolution to the application now rather than having the applicant and neighborhood in
limbo awaiting an amendment to the ordinance.
MOTION BY VONHOF, SECOND BY ROSETH, TO DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT APPLICATION TO ALLOW A BED AND BREAKFAST OPERATION AT 5365
SHORE TRAIL NE AND TO PLACE A MORATORIUM ON SUCH OPERATIONS UNTIL
THE ZONING ORDINANCE CAN BE PROPERLY AMENDED TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC
CONDITIONS FOR BED AND BREAKFAST OPERATIONS AS WELL AS TO DEFINE
APPROPRIATE ZONES FOR THEIR LOCATIONS. RATIONALE BEING THAT THE
ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT CONTAIN PROVISIONS TO ADEQUATELY
REGULATE BED AND BREAKFAST FACILITY AND DUE TO THE LOW DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL NATURE AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THE
CONVERSION OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO A COMMERCIAL VENTURE IS NOT A
CONDUCIVE USE.
Kristine Kontors, 5386 Shore Trail, was recognized to speak by Commissioner Loftus. Ms.
Kontors felt that the audience was being ignored. Chairman Arnold advised Ms. Kontors the
motion was on the floor and a solution was being worked out.
Vote taken signified ayes by Vonhof, Arnold, and Roseth. Nay by Loftus. MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Reiland was advised that the application will be forwarded to the City Council.
Public Heating for the Sign Ordinance was recalled to order at 10:05 P.M.
Commissioner Vonhof felt that the proposed draft is difficult to understand and requested it be
made more user friendly by incorporating an index or glossary. Discussion followed on various
formats that could be followed.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY VONHOF, TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON THE SIGN ORDINANCE TO MARCH 3, 1994, AT 7:30 P.M.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Vonhof, Arnold, and Loftus. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Loftus, Arnold, and Vonhof. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M. Tapes of the meeting are on f'fle at City Hall.
The following discussion is not on tape. Mr. Graser asked the Commissioners for items to put
on the retreat agenda. Several topics were discussed and the meeting concluded at 11:00 P.M.
Horst W. Graser
Director of Planning
Rita M. Schewe
Recording Secretary
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