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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, March 26, 2012
1. Call to Order:
Chairman Phelan called the March 26, 2012, Planning Commission meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Those present were Commissioners, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan, Community & Economic
Development Director Dan Rogness, City Engineer Larry Poppler, Planner Jeff Matzke, and Community
Development Assistant Peter Aldritt.
2. Approval of Agenda:
MOTION BY ROSZAK, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO APPROVE THE MARCH 26, 2012 MEETING
AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan. The Motion carried.
3. Consider Approval of January 9, 2012 Meeting Minutes:
MOTION BY ROSZAK, SECONDED BY PHELAN TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 9TH, 2012
MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik, and Phelan. The Motion carried.
4. Public Hearings:
A. #EP 12-101 Self Storage Facility. Paul Anfinson and Tom Meschke have submitted an
application to amend the C-2 (General Business) Zoning District to allow Self Storage as a conditional
use. This application proposes changes to sections 1101.1000, 1102.1103, 1107.304 and 1107.305 of
the Prior Lake City Code.
Planner Matzke
presentedPaul Anfinson, Danette Hill, & Tom Meschke have applied for a Zoning
Ordinance Text Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance which would allow a Self Storage Facility land
use in the C-2 (General Business) Zoning District. The applicant is proposing to amend section
1101.1000, 1102.1103, 1107.304, and 1107.305 of the City Zoning Ordinance. The amendment would
allow a Self Storage Facility land use in the C-2 (General Business) Zoning District with a Conditional
Use Permit.
Questions from the Commissioners:
Blahnik
asked I have a few about the conditions that you listed, the first one indicating that no
compartment door would face a residential area, you mentioned that you contemplated this issue if
there was, that fencing would be there to block it and another requirement is that there be an 100
percent opacity wall if it faces a “R” district of a minimum 6 feet. There could be an 8, 10 foot wall that
could completely block the door?
Planner Matzke
responded we looked at it both ways; at minimum there will be a 6 foot fence that will
block the use. We felt that maybe the actual building wall had to be what would block that use because
of the traffic and the types of activities taking place.
Blahnik
asked more noise consideration?
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Planner Matzke
responded yes that’s more what we were concerned with.
Blahnik
asked on the fence/ wall requirement, is there any requirement if it does not face a residential
area?
Planner Matzke
responded we focused more on what materials that we would not like to see, we did
not to restrict to a choice few but more wanted to restrict the ones that we felt were inappropriate to the
area.
Blahnik
asked as far a screening from trash and dock areas you have the City Ordinance 1107.1900,
is that otherwise required in a C-2 Zoning District?
Planner Matzke
responded yes that is actually in all of our Commercial Districts.
Blahnik
asked there is a recommendation of no activity which amplifies music or noise made by
auctions or retail sales.
Planner Matzke
responded in regards to the parking, when there is an auction or sale there would be
more people brought to the site than what the normal use would be. These facilities are not set up for a
retail use; they are for storage uses. City Staff felt that there would be a strain on the parking and
access to the site if those types of events were allowed.
Blahnik
asked the exclusion of auctions was more due to the parking restraints then the amplification
of noise?
Planner Matzke
responded yes, the amplified music was actually to restrict people from renting out a
unit to host a garage type of band practice. It was focused restricting on amplified music in regards to
our noise ordinance.
Blahnik
asked in relation to the materials can you clarify the percentages of each material needed?
Planner Matzke
responded on the side of the building with the doors, if the area was taken away that
the doors occupy then we would just evaluate the portion of the walls that were left.
Blahnik
asked in regards to the landscaping cleanup and maintenance portion is that a reference to an
ordinance?
Planner Matzke
responded yes that is in regards to our landscaping requirements and property
maintenance ordinances.
Roszak
asked Self storage is allowed in the C3 and I Use districts, would these staff recommendations
be applicable in those use districts also?
Planner Matzke
responded no they would not be, since they are allowed in the more industrial use
districts, staff felt that if it were to be allowed in the more general commercial use districts that there
would need to be tighter restriction on the building.
Roszak
asked is there a reason that the applicant did not decide to just rezone the site?
Planner Matzke
responded to change the zoning on a specific use district if it is not next to similar
zoning districts is a poor planning practice. It is better to add it in as a conditional use which then allows
staff to imply certain conditions and best fit the business to that zoning district.
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Phelan
asked in regards to the building materials it stated that the requirement on the wall with the
doors is 25 percent, why not 50 percent or 60 percent? What was the reasoning to deviate from that
requirement?
Planner Matzke
responded the reasoning for the deviation was that this type of use has a lot of
doorways on the on the building wall, where a restaurant or retail building do not have these large
doors that occupy the majority of the space, the doors break up the building wall. We wanted to have
requirements that were in line with the other zoning districts but also kept the building looking like it
would fit in the C-2 Zoning District.
Phelan
asked can you discuss the parking requirements and how you came up with these
requirements?
Planner Matzke
responded we felt that 1 per 10 units was a very strict parking requirement. We
looked at what industry standards are for this type of use and felt that the a minimum of 5 parking
spaces or 2 parking spaces plus 1 parking space per 75 units, whichever is greater is a standard that
fits this type of use.
Phelan
asked if the amendment were to be passed would it already be stated that this use would need
a C.U.P to be allowed or do we as commissioners need to add that in?
Planner Matzke
responded the applicant is proposing that and that is in the language in the staff report
that a C.U.P. would be needed. If you as commissioners feel that it is important to have a C.U.P.
needed make sure you state that in your comments.
A MOTION BY BLAHNIK SECOND BY ROSZAK TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:43 PM
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan. The Motion carried.
Applicant Tom Meschke Chaska, MN
stated Jeff thank you for the nice presentation. We brought our
builders from Pella Iowa. If there is any questions related to the building I will have him come up and
respond.
Dave Fegley Builder, Des Moines Iowa
stated we are the developer and builder of mini storages; we
have built many storage facilities, the list of recommended conditions we have and are following pretty
much all of them. The standards in the storage industry have changed over the years, they have
become much more ridged, refined and as the business have progressed they have become more
sophisticated. This facility will be approximately 200 units, with a state of the art computer gate system
and a kiosk where tenants can come there without having a manager there on weekends, nights or
holidays. The facility will be manned by a manger during daylight hours about 9 am to 4 pm there will
be a 24/7 electronic gated coded access. The facility will have a lock down entrance gage as well as
rod iron fencing. The façade is made of 20 gauge steel with a crushed marble acrylic paint on the ends
that break up the look. There is also a climate controlled building that allows the inside units to be
heated and cooled. On the outside there is the standard rental units that tenants can drive up to and
drop off there items. Another building has larger units for boats and larger storage items there is about
12 to 15 of those units. This is an all-round storage facility, not just 10 by 20 or 10 by 15 garage units.
There are units that are climate controlled, smaller non-climate controlled and larger units.
Blahnik
asked the recommended standards that we went over previously those are pretty standard
with the industry that you have seen?
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Fegley
responded yes pretty much, what Jeff has mentioned is spot on. We do not allow any
hazardous materials and we have a unit that is just used for trash.
Blahnik
asked when the compartment doors are facing a residential area are these requirements
standard?
Fegley
respondedtypically when we are next to a residential area we require that there be a berm or a
buffer area in place or to build the building without any doors facing the residential area. All the lighting
is directed downward. We do not put any electricity in the units at all so there is not the ability to have
light or other power equipment.
Roszak
asked in the units for boats or R.V.s there isn’t any power or floor drains or anything like that?
Fegley
responded no we do not. Possible on the larger units we would put a light in there since it can
get dark at the night.
Roszak
asked are they condos ore rental units?
Fegley
responded they are rentals.
Phelan
asked where is the current site being proposed, is it next to residential?
Fegley
responded no I don’t believe it is next to residential.
Planner Matzke
responded it is in Fountain Hills.
Blahnik
asked on the auction topic, what is your process for getting rid of goods that are left behind or
units that are not paid for?
Fegley
responded typically if we do have auctions to get rid of the material. Usually the door is open for
5 minutes the bidders look in the unit. Then the auction is held and the top bidder has an hour to
remove the goods. It is not like what you see on TV with Storage Wars. It is low key and quite.
Blahnik
asked would it be referred to as an auction? In the conditions listed this use would not allow
auctions.
Fegley
responded yes it is considered an auction and there are certain State Statutes stating that it
must be posted that we will be holding an auction. We do have the option of moving the material off
premises and then having the auction take place at a remote location.
Blahnik
asked by including the word Auction in the new ordinance that would not be allowed. Would
this have an adverse impact on your storage facility?
Fegley
responded no it wouldn’t, we want to get rid of the stuff in the most efficient way possible and
an auction is the most efficient way.
Blahnik
responded my inquiry on this is I would rather remove the language that prohibits the use of
auctions.
Fegley
responded that would be nice if that language was removed.
Roy Stromme 4913 Beach St.
asked what are the setbacks?
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Tom Meschke
responded 10 feet on the side 20 or 25 feet from the rear.
Phelan
responded there are standard setbacks for that use district.
Stromme
responded I think it is important to look at the driveway widths and how fire trucks can enter
the property.
Planner Matzke
responded we do have standards in the Zoning District that address setback and drive
width in regards to fire access and turnarounds. This type of use would be held to those standards.
Stromme
stated in regards to the auctions the applicant is correct they are not frequent and low key
events. It would be a good idea to allow auctions.
A MOTION BY BLAHNIK SECOND BY ROSZAK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:02 PM
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan. The Motion carried.
Commissioner Comments:
Roszak
stated it is nice to see some activity, I can support this with staff recommendations and as long
as a C.U.P. is required.
Blahnik
stated as far as the recommended conditions, I would propose two amendments to the
proposed conditions one is to remove the reference to the auctions. The second would be in regard to
the compartment doors facing residential areas. I would like to amend that language to say that
compartment doors facing residential areas could be allowed as long as a berm is in place that would
conceal the compartment door and mitigate the noise. The rest of the recommendations are consistent
with the public need for storage, there is activity and when there is activity there is a need for people to
store their stuff. It is consistent with the goals and objectives of the 2030 Comprehensive Plan. It is
consistent with Federal and State laws I will be supporting these recommended conditions.
Phelan
stated I too would support it with the recommended elimination of the auction language. I think
it is asking for trouble down the road. We should take the ambiguity out of it. I have some concerns
about the conditions around the R-1 district, as long as each application requires a Conditional Use
Permit it could be reviewed and implemented on case by case.. There is a public need. It is consistent
with State and Federal requirements. With the elimination of the auction language and adherence to
existing zoning ordinances and a Conditional Use Permit I would support recommending the
amendment.
Blahnik
asked just for clarification the proposed motion would be eliminating the auction piece but it
would still include the requirement for the disallowance for a compartment door to face a residential
area even is a berm was in place.
Phelan
stated I agree.
Blahnik
asked I was hoping to amend it to include a berm.
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Phelan
I don’t believe including the language to allow a compartment door facing residential area is a
bad idea.
A MOTION BY BLAHNIK SECOND BY ROSZAK TO ADOPT THE CIT’Y RECOMMENDED
CONDITIONS EXCLUDING THE AUCTION REQUIREMENT AND INCLUDING THE ALLOWANCE OF
A COMPARTMENT DOOR FACING A RESIDENTIAL AREA IF A BERM IS IN PLACE.
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Roszak, and Phelan. The Motion carried.
B. #EP 12-102 5035 Beach St. Conditional Use Permit. Richard Langer has submitted an application
for a C.U.P to allow grading in excess of 400 cubic yards on his property, which is located on the
Northwest shore of Prior Lake at the end of Beach Street
Planner Matzke
presented Richard Langer has applied for a Conditional Use Permit to allow grading
and land reclamation of his property located at 5035 Beach Street. The site is located on the Northwest
shore of Prior Lake, South of County Hwy 82. The project calls for the importing of 6,000 cubic yards of
fill to the site.
City Engineer Poppler
presented we did provide a memo in regards to this project that would look at
the erosion control and how the water would drain. In addition to the Conditional Use Permit we would
require a Grading Permit in which we would have additional conditions of approval. We do collect an
escrow for the project along with the application fee. We would require a storm water pollution
prevention plan as well that would need to be submitted with the grading permit.
Commissioner Questions:
Roszak
asked would we be losing a lot of trees?
Engineer Popple
r responded it is grassy area as you can see in the area photo.
Roszak
asked will the applicant seed after the grading?
Engineer Poppler
yes stabilization is required.
Blahnik
asked is there any restrictions on the type of fill?
Engineer Poppler
no it is up to the applicant just clean fill.
MOTION BY ROSZAK SECOND BY BLAHNIK TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:20 PM
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan
Applicant Richard Langer 5035 Beach Street
as the applicant I would be happy to answer any
questions on the project.
Roszak
asked is the fill being brought in for a building pad or being used to re-grade the entire site?
Langer
responded yes, right now we do not have a long term comprehensive plan for the site. I was
able to get some cheap fill to fill in the low area. We may eventually develop the property.
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Blahnik
asked this was prompted by the availability of the fill and where is the material coming from?
Langer
responded yes that is correct. There are some homes going up on the other side of the lake
that are being re-graded.
Phelan
asked if this does move forward what is your time table?
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Langer
responded we would either get it done before May 15 or we would then delay until the fall.
We do not want to disrupt the area during the summer.
Roy Stromme 4913 Beach Street
stated my comments are directed to the area outside of the affected
land site. The neighborhood is a small neighborhood. There is only one entrance to this site. I am
concerned with that route. I wanted to see if there could be possible restrictions on the trucks weight
and maybe a speed limit? Beach Street is not in the best of shape and it is very narrow. There are
many different school bus stops on that route if the hours of operation could be limited to 9:00 am to
2:00pm. There should be a deposit collected to ensure the cleanup of the property after the project is
finished. I think that the residents along the entire route should be notified of when the grading will take
place.
Dale Getz 4987 Beach Street
stated my concern is the road it is not in the best shape and with this
heavy traffic will the road deteriorate and then we will be assed for the damages now as opposed to 10
or 15 years from now.
ROSZAK MOTIONED SECOND BY BLAHNIK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:31
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan
Roszak
asked can staff address the cleanup of the streets?
Engineer Poppler
responded we would use the letter of credit to pay for the cleanup if the developer
failed to do so. The streets themselves, it is a 7 ton street and the trucks would need to abide to those
restrictions. On regulating the hours of operation and speed limit, I would leave that up to the
commission to impose those conditions, but it might be hard for our police department to enforce those
restrictions.
Planner Matzke
responded we do have construction hours, if I remember right they are 7:00 am to
7:00 pm and I think Saturday is 8:00am to 7:00pm. That is an ordinance and the truck traffic would
need to abide by that restriction.
Roszak
asked would the fill be coming all at once or be broken up?
Langer
responded it would be coming all at once. The goal is to get it done in as short of time as
possible to limit the impact in the neighborhood. Talking to the developer it would be about a two week
time.
Blahnik
stated I will be supporting this request; I do appreciate the concerns the neighbors have with
the safety of the neighborhood and the children in the area. Limiting the hours would just extend the
timeline for the project. Changing the speed limit and putting weight restrictions on the road would be
difficult to enforce. The overall project would not have a negative impact on the area. It is not
detrimental to the health safety or morals of the community and there are no undue adverse impacts on
the use and enjoyment of the property. I will be supporting it.
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Phelan
stated in regards to the speed limit I would say to look to city ordinance and any deviation
from that would be difficult to enforce. Limiting the hours between 8:00 and 9:00 and 2:00 and 4:00,
you are going to take 3 hours out of 12 hour day which is 25 percent if its 2 weeks you are looking at
extending the project 3 days. In regards to the safety of the children I don’t think that extending the
project will be that more of an inconvenience. I would propose that we could discuss and consider
some limitations on the hours.
Roszak
stated limiting the hours maybe a great idea but I think it would be difficult to do. Could we
send out a notice to the neighbors? Notifying them of the two week period that this project will take
place?
Planer Matzke
responded that is a condition that the Planning Commission can impose. Either the
applicant or City staff could send out the mailings.
Roszak
stated if it is possible to send out a mailing notifying the residents of the time line of the
grading. I think that would be important.
Blahnik
asked is the fill coming straight from the area to your property or is it being excavated and
stored and then coming to your property. If we restrict the hours are we also restricting the hours on
the other projects excavating?
Langer
responded they would have to stage the fill and idle truck time is not good.
Phelan
stated I would support the motion with either limiting the hours which may be a financial or
logistical burden on the applicant or have City Staff send out a memo to the residents along Bluebird
Trail and Beach Street explaining the project and giving a timeline.
A MOTION BY ROSZAK SECOND BY BLAHNIK TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 12-03 APPROVING
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SEND OUT A
LETTER TO ANY NEIGHBORS ON BEACH STREET AND BLUEBIRD TRAIL AND THE LETTER BE
REVIEWD BY CITY STAFF PRIOR TO BEING MAILED DETAILNG WHEN THE PROJECT WOULD
BE IN OPERATION.
VOTE: Ayes Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan.
C. #EP 12-105 Peterson Driveway Variance. William Peterson is requesting a variance from the
minimum side yard setback required for a driveway in the R-1 (Low Density Residential) Zoning District.
The property is located at 15291 Edgewater Circle NE on the West Shore of Prior Lake across for Lake
Front Park.
Planner Matzke presented
William Peterson is requesting a variance to allow the realignment of an
existing driveway completely onto the applicant’s property located at 15291 Edgewater Circle NE. The
property is zoned R-1, Low Density Residential and guided R-LD, Urban Low Density on the 2030
Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map. The variance request and driveway realignment are submitted in
connection with an overall future building permit for a new house at 15291 Edgewater Circle NE; a
previous single family residence has already been removed from the property.
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Commissioner Questions:
None
A MOTION BY ROSZAK SECOND BY BLAHNIK TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:50 PM
William Peterson 1423 Guild Ave. Apple Valley MN
We are trying to move the driveway onto our property. To my knowledge the current driveway has
been located on our neighbor’s property for 20 years and now that we are redoing it we are going to
move it completely on out property. The neighbors on both sides of us are completely fine with us doing
so. If we are granted this variance we will then be submitting a building permit to build our house.
MOTION BY ROSZAK SECOND BY BLAHNIK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:53 PM
VOTE: Ayes Roszak, Blahnik, and Phelan
Commissioner Comments:
Roszak
statedI do not have any comments or questions. I will be supporting it.
Blahnik
stated I will be supporting this. In the world of practical difficulties this is about as practical
difficult as it comes. This is necessary for them to put in the driveway.
A MOTION BY PHELAN SECOND BY ROSZAK ADOPTING RESOLUTION 12-03PC APPROVING A
VARIANCE FROM SECTION 1107.205 (1) OF THE ZONING CODE REQUIRING DRIVEWAYS TO BE
SET BACK A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET FROM THE SIDE YARD PROPERTY LINES
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan.
D. #EP 12-106 Spring Lake Park Variance. Stantec Consulting on behalf of Scott County is requesting
a variance to allow a gravel parking lot within the city limits of Prior Lake. The proposed lot is located in
the Northwest corner of Spring Lake Regional Park, south of County Road 82 and west of County Road
81.
Planner Matzke
presented Stantec Consulting on behalf of Scott County is requesting a variance from
Section 1107.204 to allow a Class 5 gravel parking lot in the Agriculture Zoning District. The property is
located in the northwest corner of Spring Lake Park south of County Road 82 and west of County Road
81. The construction of the parking lot is a temporary improvement to allow citizens to utilize the dog
park that will be part of developments in Spring Lake Regional Park. There are plans to pave and
expand the parking lot once the park is further developed.
Commissioner Questions:
Phelan
asked is there any way to use the gravel that is already out there on the road?
Planner Matzke
responded the applicant can answer that question.
A MOTION BY ROSZAK SECOND BY BLAHNIK TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:02 PM
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik and Phelan
Applicant Mark Themig Scott County Parks Manager
Jeff covered the project very well in his presentation. The park is mostly natural; in 2006 community
members got together with staff and developed a master plan. With the funding we have as of now the
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dog park and bituminous paths were what we are able to develop. There are plans to develop along
Spring Lake as well. Part of the master plan was to work with Prior Lake and Scott County on meeting
both entities needs and desires for the park. That is why we are looking at this interim stage to get the
regional park up and going and then as the City develops and designs their plans for the park, we will
be able to incorporate that into the entire park. The timeline is uncertain as of now because it depends
on what the City decides to do and when the collector street goes in along the west side of the park.
To answer your question Mr. Chair we do plan on reclaiming as much of the gravel as possible.
Blahnik
asked is there any type of estimate on when it will be paved?
Themig
responded I do not have a timeline, it is contingent on the City’s plans and when the County
can secure more funds.
Blahnik
asked in regards to maintaining the parking lot is there a plan on that?
Themig
responded it will be maintained similarly to how the gravel road is done now. If grading or
filling is needed the streets crew will take care of it. We are also in partnership with Three Rivers Park
District and they will help with some of the maintenance.
A MOTION BY BLAHNIK SECOND BY PHELAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:09 PM
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Phelan and Roszak
Commissioner Comments:
Blahnik
stated I will be supporting this it meets the allowable use of the property, I am happy to see
this moving forward.
Roszak
stated I too will be supporting this.
Phelan
stated I too will be supporting this
A MOTION BY BLAHNIK SECOND BY ROSZAK TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 12-04PC APPROVING
A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A CLASS 5 GRAVEL PARKING LOT IN PLACE
OF THE REQUIRED BITUMINOUS SURFACE PARKING LOT REQUIRED IN SECTION 1107.204(5)
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Phelan and Blahnik
5. Old Business:
None
6. New Business:
None
7. Announcements and Correspondence:
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Economic Development Director Dan Rogness
presentedupdates from the January 3, February 6
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February 21 and March 19 City Council meetings.
Phelan
asked the on Pike Lake acquisition it appears that there is a building on that property, was this
property tax forfeited, what is the background on this property?
Director Rogness
responded yes there is currently a single family home and occupied by the family it
has not gone through any tax forfeiture or foreclosure. The family is willing and ready to sell the
property.
8. Adjournment:
MOTION BY BLAHNIK SECONDED BY ROSZAK TO ADJORN THE MEETING.
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Roszak, and Phelan. The Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Peter Aldritt, Community Development Assistant.
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