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APPENDIX B -
HISTORICAL REVIEW
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M E M O R A N D U M
Date: August 29, 2012
To: Bryan Nemeth
CC:
From: Cultural Resources Group
Subject: City of Prior Lake Downtown South Study Area
The Bolton & Menk cultural resources group has conducted a literature search for the City of Prior Lake
Downtown South Study Area. This literature search is intended to provide background of the inventoried
standing structures within one half-mile of the proposed project area and the inventoried archaeological
sites within one mile of the proposed project area.
Three archaeological sites are located within one mile of the project area, an effigy mound group, an
artifact scatter, and a An additional eleven archaeological sites are located within two
miles of the project area. These sites consist of other earthworks, a rock alignment and artifact scatters.
Additionally, the Public Land Survey map from 1855 indicates the presence of several roads and trails
near or within the study. The existing archaeological information suggests that the area surrounding
Upper and Lower Prior Lakes appears to have undergone significant use for, likely for habitation, during
prehistoric times.
Thirteen structures within one half-mile of the proposed project were inventoried during a survey
conducted in 1979. During a cursory review, it appears that only three structures are located within the
study area, three residential homes. Two additional residential homes are located within one half-mile
west, on the shores of Upper Prior Lake, where they are unlikely to be affected by this project. None of
the residential homes had been determined eligible for listing on the National Register and it is likely that
they have not undergone any formal evaluation for eligibility. The study area encompasses a residential
neighborhood, with many homes older than 50 years of age.
Based on the number of known archaeological sites within the vicinity of the project area, it appears that
the study area played a significant role in the lifeways and activities of prehistoric peoples. If any
proposed alternative route crosses undisturbed land, then an archaeological review may be required by the
State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) pursuant to the Minnesota Field Archaeology Act. Federal
funding or permits would likely require compliance with Section 106 of the National Historic
Preservation Act. If federal funds or permits are used for this project, then SHPO may request an
architectural survey prior to any proposed affects to the setting of or demolition of any structures, given
the concentration of homes that area older than 50 years.
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PRIOR LAKE DOWNTOWN SOUTH STUDY
APPENDIX C -
CONCEPT ALTERNATIVES CONSIDERED FOR EVALUATION
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PRIOR LAKE DOWNTOWN SOUTH STUDY
APPENDIX D -
CBG MEETING MINUTES
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Citizens and Business Group Meeting#1
Prior Lake City Hall
June 12, 2012 4:30 PM to 5:30 PM
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EETING INUTES
Attendees:
John Diers John Parrish
David Rech Barbara Marschall, County Commissioner
John Siskoff Larry Poppler, City of Prior Lake
Mary Korthour Katy Gehler, City of Prior Lake
Patrick Heaney Dan Rogness, City of Prior Lake
Bernard Carlson Lisa Freese, Scott County
Alvin Imholte Bryan Nemeth, Bolton & Menk, Inc.
Gregory Schweich Gina Mitchell, Bolton & Menk, Inc.
Dawn Schulberg
13 Applications all accepted
Dave Rech Copper Creek
John Siskoff - Resident
John Diers Resident, Retired Transit Consultant, Scott County Historical Board
Bernie Carlson Carlson Consulting Group, Carlson Hardware, E.D.A.C.
Al Imholte Carlson Hardware, St. Michaels Church Grounds Committee
Greg Schweich E.D.A.C., Copper Creek
Pat Heaney Resident
Dawn Schulberg Premiere Dance Academy
Mary Korthour Integra Telecom
Andrea Mullenmeister Resident
John Parrish Viking Liquor, Resident
Michelle Imholte Carlson Hardware
Gerald Ziskovsky Church of St. Michael Added after CBG #1
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1.Review Study Elements
a.Purpose
Bryan reviewed the purpose:
The purpose of the Downtown South Study is to develop a roadway network that
can improve traffic connections to the changes at Highway 21and Highway 13 and
make it more compatible with future growth and redevelopment.
b.Project Goals
Bryan reviewed the Project Goals:
Goal #1: Assemble the findings and recommendations from the previously
completed projects, plans, and studies into one plan for the Downtown South Area.
These plans include:
City of Prior Lake Comprehensive Plan
Downtown North Main Avenue Reconstruction
Highway 21 Corridor Study
Arcadia at CH 21 Feasibility Study
Downtown Parking Study
Main Avenue at CH 21 Feasibility Study
CH 21 Realignment Study
Maxfield Market Analysis Study
2030 Vision and Strategic Plan
Arcadia Avenue Extension and CH 21 Reconstruction Project
Goal #2: Develop a plan for a future street network in the Downtown South Area
that is consistent with the CH 21 Plan, provides connectivity and facilities for
multiple modes (i.e. pedestrians, and bicyclists) between Downtown and other
destinations, provides access to Downtown South businesses, and provides access
for traffic between Duluth Avenue and the intersection of CH 21 and Arcadia
Avenue.
Goal #3: Develop a street network for the Downtown South Area that minimizes
right-of-tions for implementation.
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John Deirs asked what are the positive and negative consequences of each alternatives; impacts
on neighborhood, tax picture? We need to consider in evaluation of alternatives and what the
downtown should be.
Changing population
State demographics
Article in New York Times decline of exurbs
2.Study Objectives and Role of CBG
Gina reviewed the study objectives and the role of the CBG.
Represent the interests of all property owners and businesses in the City; and
Communicate with other residents and businesses in the City about the Downtown
South Study issues, alternatives and recommendations.
She stated that the evaluation criteria will be developed based on the project goals to evaluate
the tradeoffs between alternatives.
3.De
Dan reviewed the three (3) districts and transitional town center. Any additional questions
were to be directed to Dan.
John Deirs asked about changing the Transitional Town Center designation. Dan answered by
stating that the Comprehensive Plan change and zoning amendment would be required.
4.Review Previous Studies Timeline
Bryan talked about how the 21 Corridor Study set up a vision for been constructed:
New intersection at Arcadia to be signalized when justified
Median or closure at Duluth determination to be determined through a study
¾ access on Hwy 13 south of CH 21
Market analysis Determined the development/redevelopment potential in Downtown.
With CH 21 at current alignment, total of 29,000 sq ft office/
residential redevelopment. Did not identify a huge redevelopment potential in
Transitional Town Center
Traffic volume collected in 2011 and in 2012 before construction began. PM peak 1
hour
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John Deirs asked if the community has done any O/D studies. Bryan explained no, but in similar
communities there are typical 10-15% are from outside the community. John asked if there are
pedestrian counts and vehicle types data available. Bryan thought ped counts would be
available but said that he would look into it.
5.Review Planning Considerations Map
Bryan went over the map and how it ties to Goal 1 and Timeline.
6.Review the Existing and Future No-Build Traffic Analysis Results
-2030 forecast
-John Diers Stated that Met Council is evaluating issuing new forecast numbers.
-John Diers Stated that Why 13 is going to become a County Road
-Lisa Freese Stated that there have been discussions of changing the jurisdiction of Hwy
13 to County and CH 17 to State, but there have been no Memorandums of
Understanding. A jurisdictional change would not change the functional class or access
spacing requirements. Traffic currently using Hwy 13 would still likely use it even if it
were a county highway, given its regional connections.
-Bryan all way stops on Duluth anticipated to be unacceptable by 2030.
7.Roadway Concepts
a.Review Initial Concepts
b.Sketch Alternatives to Concepts
c.Discuss the Concepts
Draft alternative purpose of CBG opposition/limitations
-No Build
-Alt. 1: straightforward N-S routing, minimal impacts to properties
-Alt. 2: Concern about roundabout diameter and property acquisition
-Alt. 3: Concern with amount of property acquisition
Dave R asked if the church was invited. Al (Gerald Z with Church
added as a committee member after CBG #1)
-Alt. 4: too many properties impacted, traffic taken from Downtown
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-Alt. 5: too many properties impacted, intersection spacing (Colorado to Pleasant)
seems too close, no benefit over others, takes traffic from Downtown
Ernie/Al asked what does 4 achieve vs. 5? The answer was not much. 4/5 take away from
. Dave R. concerned with
stacking of cars. Gina explained this impacts decision for owners in Transitional Town Center.
As stated in Goal 3, the City will make a determination on how roadway will be constructed.
Pat asked about the cost of implementation. Dave asked if implementation promotes
development interest in redevelopment.
-Alt. 6: Wetland impacts?
-Alt. 7: Wetland impacts? Road leading to Duluth takes prime buildable flat land
Dawn Anna Trail cul-de-sac yes. ¾ access at Franklin
Bryan explained that along Hwy 13 there is full access at ½ mile. Assuming this, the new
intersection is ¾ access.
Al asked when the county will own 13. Lisa said the county signal spacing is the same.
(comments due next Tuesday) Lisa also said that there are lots of options and many may not
move forward so after the next meeting may be a better time to coordinate.
Larry said that ¾ access is further south on 21 than shown. Unknown if actual location will work
with the wetlands. Relocate access further south to blue spot. Based on intersection spacing
and a ¾ access at Franklin, the ¾ at Pleasant may not be possible. Al asked if the state is going
to put money into 13. Lisa said jurisdictional change was studied 5-7 years ago and there was
no commitment from MnDOT to swap and investment will only happen when safety
necessitates. Problems at 13 and 21 are bigger than what can be lead as a local investment.
-Alt. 8: Wetland impacts?
-Alt. 9: Wetland impacts?
-Alt. 10: Wetland impacts?
Bernie Questioned the timing for removal of the all-way stop at Main. County indicated that it
would be completed when it becomes a safety issue.
John D asked if developers want to develop with traffic problems. Bryan answered that it is a
double edged sword because some rely on traffic and some need more free flow to get goods
and service to market.
-Alt. 11: Could the signal at Duluth be moved?
Pat said right hand turn lanes are better value for dollar vs buying homes. Lisa said Arcadia is
being be widened to accommodate left turn at Arcadia on 21.
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John suggested slowing traffic to 45 mph through downtown. Bryan explained that MnDOT
determines speeds on all MN roadways and determine speed based on a speed study. Bernie
said most pedestrians cross at Main. Consider county road through downtown speeds need to
slow down. Arcadia is out of the way for access to Downtown.
-Alt. 12 & 13: Do not meet the goals, changes access on CH 21 that is already approved
by City and County
-Alt. A: Do not get the advantage
-Alt. B:
-Alt. C: Need a right turn lane at Main, Also need one at Duluth
-Alt. D:
Dawn asked about a right turn lane at Main. Lisa noted that you need to look at whole corridor
width to see how wide the corridor gets. Addition of a right turn lane may impact adjacent
buildings. Dawn said if this happened and Colorado is a one-way, the right turn is needed.
Dawn asked if the city will continue to monitor traffic to her business because it will be
different in the summer. Larry said that the City will continue to evaluate the intersection over
time, as they do with all intersections in the City, to see if there are any safety issues.
John S asked how truck and traffic noise will be dealt with. 21 and 13 are arterials and he lives
off West and 21. Bryan answered that it depends on the function class arterial, these are
defined to carry truck traffic and goods regionally. Bernie suggested getting info on West Ave
because more traffic will divert to West Avenue instead of going so far east to Arcadia. He also
asked if the routing through the wetlands is a viable option if not this would reduce the
options considerably.
Dawn asked how long a wetland study takes. Greg answered by stating that delineation is done
next week with 4 soil borings. Greg asked about wetland delineation available by ¾ access at
Pleasant because Loren Gross is considering some residential development and this would also
help determine if the ¾ access is feasible.
John D asked about sidewalks. Larry indicated that the pink lines are the sidewalks and the
green lines are trails on the map. Pedestrian considerations will be built into the options, once
roadway options are determined.
8.Next Steps
a.Transportation Advisory Committee will review concepts
b.Complete traffic analysis and layouts of the preferred concepts
c.Open House #2: July
d.Next CBG Meeting Tentatively August 14, 4:30 to 5:30 PM
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Dawn after meeting asked about the future parking and are/will the city consider how
alternatives impact parking overall and alternative as an evaluation criteria?
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June 12, 2012: 4:30 6:30 PM
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OMMENTS UMMARY
Al Imholte: Looking over and talking to many people about the proposed plans for
downtown south it appears to tie arcadia to Duluth right at Anna trail would be good
for the downtown, provided that the wetland is allowed to be used for this purpose.
The median down Duluth would also make a change on the traffic pattern on west
Ave. This will need to be looked at. Crosswalks at Main are a must or as in the past
there may be more dramatic problems. Tying the downtown to the south to the
village mall should be good for all involved.
Dawn Schulberg (Premiere Dance): I have taken some time to study the options and
take everything into consideration as to what could be good alternatives to consider
for the future roadway system. I believe I have some good input to share or ideas to
consider however, because some studies aren't completed at this time, I feel that I
don't have enough information to make the right choices or determinations. I look
forward to further research and study results as well as future meetings.
Dave Rech: Here are my thoughts on the proposed options:
1.Connect Arcadia from Colorado to Pleasant. No brainer, should be done asap,
(should have been done when Arcadia went to Colorado) adds value to the
newly created intersection, makes it more useable and helps Duluth some but
most of the impact on Duluth will need to be for people wanting to travel West
on 21. Right now West Ave is most impacted by the Duluth/21 intersection
closure which best simulates what the impact of no left/west on Duluth will do
to local traffic. I think you should consider an intersection at West just like you
left from Duluth onto 21.
2.Same as 1 but with Roundabouts at Duluth and Arcadia on Pleasant. I do not
support. I think the negative impact to the Church/School and Church office not
to mention homes at Arcadia would be worth well more than the value of
roundabouts to help traffic. It just requires too much land for a side street. If
there are facts that support the use of roundabouts, they were not presented to
justify this action.
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3.Y Connection from Colorado to Pleasant. I do not support due to significant
impact on housing and distraction from driving potential access to downtown. I
also think the left turn on pleasant at Arcadia that would be created would be
very problematic and the entire intersection would be a stacking nightmare.
4.Arcadia angled to Pleasant and Duluth. I can see it might help Duluth but it takes
out a ton of homes and with the wetland would offer no real opportunity for
development. I would not support this approach especially because of the added
traffic on Duluth at 13, already a problem at peak times.
5.rtunity, takes
out a ton of homes and the Church office and creates a real mess for people
traveling on pleasant. I would not support this approach.
6.I like this solution for a lot of reasons, spacing is enough to justify another light
on TH13 which relieves Duluth and gives a new connection to downtown and the
south side and certainly supports the intersection at Arcadia and 21. I also like it
because it opens up opportunity for the old Diggers site and for the Loren Gross
property for retail, business, housing and many other potential opportunities.
Could use the space along the road for overflow parking for downtown for major
events, may even be able to configure to support the Farmers Market along this
roadway.
7.Connect Franklin trail to pleasant with an off shoot to Duluth with a cul-de-sac at
the end of Anna Trail. Not the best option due to impact on commercial access
and usage of TH 13 frontage, you would take out a house needlessly. I would not
support.
8.Connect Duluth and Anna trail to new proposed road. Why not just angle Anna
Trail more to Duluth by the bank and eliminate the second street? This option
takes out the only
needlessly.
9.es right through
the only buildable property on the Loren Gross parcel, close though. Could you
still get the controlled intersection needed for retail to consider Diggers site? 6 is
a better alternative.
10.See 9, road to the north from Duluth to proposed road may not be a bad
improvement as we open up the property but current configuration takes out
the development opportunity for that parcel. I do like cutting the corner at
Duluth and Anna Trail though to help Duluth congestion.
11.Cross over through the basement to proposed road. Closer to existing
intersection at Duluth than Franklin trail which is a problem, not real benefit to
development and frontage along 13. Closing Franklin Trail and Anna Trail at 13
puts a ton of strain on Park Nicollet Ave from the east.
12.Move Duluth Intersection to the east and connect up to Dakota. Now with
Arcadia it makes little sense as they are very close to each other. To make it work
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forget about the Arcadia intersection, I think it would be
smarter to put an intersection at West Ave vs this. This also runs even more
traffic onto Duluth which already has capacity issues at 13 and with the school. I
would not support now, maybe a few years ago sure,
directions.
13.Roundabout at Duluth
about impact of a roundabout on traffic flow but open to listen.
A.Eats up the buildable property of Loren Gross and dumps even more traffic on
Duluth,
B.Just adds potential pinch/congestion point on Colorado for what benefit? OK
with connection to Pleasant.
C.
D.I already assumed there would be a right in on Main heading east on 21 so I
understand what this is offering. I think the left on Pleasant off 13 will just
add more congestion and think the gap to 21 intersection could be a problem, I
think the proposed road 6 or a variation would solve any opportunity this
solution would w
Hope this is helpful, let me know if you need any clarifications or questions answered.
Gerald Ziskovsky: I have been asked to represent the Church of St. Michael
Church/School Campus on the study group. Our thoughts are options 6, 7, 9 and
maybe 11 for further discussions.
Also brought up was what impact there will be on access to West Ave. (Just west of
Duluth Ave.) as roads are redeveloped. We are hopeful that these options would pull
traffic away from Duluth Ave. at the location of the St. Michael campus, making it a
safer area during our busy times at the school and church and also providing a more
of North/South access with less possibility of accidents.
Option 6- this option would give extra North/South access but lights at Hwy 13
would be more safe
Option 7- With the East/West road added it was potential, maybe a cul-de-sac on
Duluth Ave just north of new East/West road so Duluth traffic would use Pleasant
Street to get to new road and the CO. 21 lighted intersection, a roundabout at the
"Y" of new road could flow traffic.
Option 9- Also cutting off Duluth Ave. with a cul-de-sac just south of Prior wood
Street would help traffic flow on new road, also cul-de-sac off of Anna Trail.
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Option 11- Would be nice as it would connect with Park Nicolet Ave. and add the
Village Mall area to the downtown mix. This would be very promising if the state
would allow the traffic lights at Duluth Ave. to be moved to the new intersection and
have either right in right out or roundabout
John Siskoff: Attached.
Response drafted by John Diers: Pat and Jill Heaney, Mike Wolfram, Barb Vossen,
Ron and Susan Wolfram, Lee and Marie Hoess, Andrea and Steve Mullenmeister,
John Siskoff, John and Marcia Diers: Attached
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Comments on Draft Alternatives and Recommendations for the TAC to consider.
Business Group (CBG). I enjoyed the opportunity to discuss local traffic concerns and issues with several
committee members, residents and business owners. As requested I'm sharing my comments on draft
alternatives and recommendations with the project team for the TAC to consider.
My Comments:
To my knowledge, the city and county engineers stated that the State Department of Transportation has
higher priorities at this time instead of addressing Congestion at County Road 21 and Highway #13 that is
closely tied to backups at Main Avenue.
Unfortunately, the problem doesn't end there. There is also State Highway #13 and Duluth intersection,
State Highway #13 and Pleasant Street, State Highway #13 at both Franklin Trail intersections, as well as
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State Highway #13 and Dakota, State Highway #13 at 160 Street that are all in dire need of
reconstruction, especially needed right turn lanes. Any development of the Downtown South Area hinges
on the construction or reconstruction of the above named intersections approved by the state.
I am reluctant to think that the State of Minnesota would consider restructuring a minimum of six main
intersections for future development within the Downtown South area, equivalent to 29,000 total square
feet for both retail and office space by 2030.
By comparison, the average Walmart store is approximately 97,000 square feet, while Walmart's larger
stores, referred to as Super Centers, carry approximately 186,000 square feet.
Perhaps, road projects for these developments are on the State Department of Transp
priority list.
Currently our intersections are on the low priority list of the Department of Transportation resulting in the
inability to get right turn lanes at the Congested County Road #21 and State Highway #13 intersection.
Also, there will not be a right turn lane exiting County Road #21onto Main Street going south after the
Arcadia Intersection is completed.
Considering any future development in the immediate Downtown South is a moot point without the state's
involvement.
By 2030, with the traffic growth and intersection changes, it is anticipated that some of the intersections
(Duluth Ave. at Colorado and Duluth at Pleasant) will operate unacceptably and cause undue delay to
both residents in the area and business patrons.
I view any long-run forecasts with skepticism based on a statement from city council member Kenneth
Hedberg that, "businesses shy away, and are hesitant to locate, or develop in Prior Lake, from a
perspective that we don't control the property, and we don't kno
Taking that into consideration, my suggestion is to postpone development of any city streets that would
destroy neighborhoods for future development.
We must stop throwing good money after bad until we can identify and focus on current challenges. Then
we can focus on future opportunities.
My reaction to the Downtown South Study-Prior Lake, MN
I didn't see any foundation or interest in bike lanes and pedestrian friendly improvements in any of the
plans presented.
We as a city need to define what we do best and capitalize on it.
Developing additional strip malls and roads hasn't worked in the past. It has only created more traffic and
vacant buildings. There is great pent-up demand for walkable, centrally located neighborhoods and we
want to tear down our historic neighborhood and run roads through them.
It is time to build what the market wants: mixed-income, quiet, walkable cities and suburbs that will
support the knowledge economy, promote environmental sustainability and create jobs.
My Comments on Draft Alternatives:
Of all the roadway concepts I reviewed and studied along with committee members, business owners and
residents, the plans that would best benefit Prior Lake residents and the city are as follows:
I would be comfortable recommending draft #13 but adding right turn lanes at Main and County road #21.
Also theme draft A, C and D would be acceptable.
My Recommendations:
For pedestrian safety the current speed limit on County Road #21 must to be lowered from County road
#42 to Main Street.
The traffic needs to be spread out to allow vehicles to gain safer access onto 21 from side streets.
constructed by changing "Eagle Creek Ave SE" County Road 21 into Continuous Two-Way Left-Turn
Lane (TWLTL).
Currently, Park Nicolet Avenue South East Prior Lake, by the New Market State Bank is a Continuous
Two-Way Left-Turn Lane (TWLTL). Redtail Ridge East, 15200 Hampshire Savage, by the Redtail Ridge
Elementary School and Kenwood Trail in Lakeville, MN are also Continuous Two-Way Left-Turn Lane
(TWLTL) roads.
I proposed the Continuous Two-Way Left-Turn Lane option to the Mayor, City Council and City
Administrator January 16, 2012 before the bidding on Arcadia. The response I received was, they thought
it was a good idea and were going to look into it.
In the same email, I proposed the possibility of "Eagle Creek Ave SE" County Road 21designated as a
Parkway by the State. The response
It was March, roughly a few months past and I was wondering if my proposals for a Continuous Two-Way
Left-Turn Lane (TWLTL), or the possibility of "Eagle Creek Ave SE" County Road 21designated as a
Parkway by the State had any substance.
I emailed the city engineer and wanted to know what their intentions were.
My answer from the city engineer was "I agree that Two Way Left Turn Lanes (TWLTL) are safer than the
current undivided four lane roadway through downtown.
However TWLTL's are not safer and take up more right of way than dedicated left turn lanes and concrete
median which is proposed through this area. The 2005 corridor study process reviewed these alternatives
and the final concepts with left and right dedicated turn lanes and concrete median will set up the City of
Prior Lake well for the future".
Hopefully the $3.3 million Arcadia Avenue project was a good decision.
The vehicle noise restriction policy must to be enforced. An all vehicle and truck noise advisory sign
should be placed at the city limits and upon entering town.
I respect the interest Copper Creek Partners, LLC has taken in developing Diggers property area. If they
can privately finance and develop that area without disrupting any major part of the city or wetlands, I
think that would be a great area for some small retail shops and businesses..
They definitely will have problems with traffic and unfortunately building more roads within the city without
any access to Highway #13 shouldn't be on the City of Prior Lakes high priority list. We know where we
Sincerely,
John K. Siskoff
952-447-8644
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Citizens and Business Group Meeting#2
Prior Lake City Hall
July 17, 2012 4:00 PM to 6:00 PM
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EETING INUTES
Attendees:
John Diers, Resident Dawn Schulberg, Premiere Dance Academy
David Rech, Copper Creek Charles Sunder, Ballard Sunder
John Siskoff, Resident Gerald Ziskovsky, Church of St. Michael
Mary Korthour, Integra Telecom Larry Poppler, City of Prior Lake
Patrick Heaney, Resident Katy Gehler, City of Prior Lake
Michelle Imholte, Carlson ACE Hardware Dan Rogness, City of Prior Lake
Alvin Imholte, Carlson ACES Hardware Tony Winiecki, Scott County
Gregory Schweich, Copper Creek Bryan Nemeth, Bolton & Menk, Inc.
John Parrish, Viking Liquor Gina Mitchell, Bolton & Menk, Inc.
1.Review TAC Discussion Points on Sketch Alternatives to Determine Recommended
Alternatives for Further Analysis
Bryan reviewed the existing traffic signal spacing on Hwy 13. He noted the existing signals
type
of facility recommend 1 mile signal spacing. He stated that only one ¾ access between the
two signals (i.e., not at Franklin and Duluth) will be allowed by MnDOT.
Bryan reported the Duluth closure or median will not likely divert traffic to West Avenue
due to less delay at Arcadia with the signal. He stated other traffic counts have yet to be
completed.
Bryan provided the following summary of TAC discussion points related to each alternative:
No Build complete median at Main; no property acquisition proposed. This option
will be studied further.
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Alternative #1 could be a short-term or long-term option if corridor extends to the
south at
Pleasant. This option will be studied further.
Alternative #2 Not much benefit over Alternative #1; less delay, but not much;
more property impacts. This option was not recommended for further study unless
determined to be necessary.
Alternative #3 Lots of curvature, difficult to access existing parcels on south side of
Pleasant. This option was eliminated from further study.
Alternative #4 Intersection skew at Pleasant Street; however, low volumes
expected so probably not too much of a concern; meets goals to connect Arcadia
and Duluth; traffic moved away from the school/church; question on stop sign
location which will be determined by the study. This option was recommended for
further study.
A committee member asked if the intersection of Duluth and Hwy 13 will still work? Bryan
reported MnDOT is looking at replacing the signal. He stated the turn lanes can hold only three
cars and there is only a northbound left and southbound right turn lane on Duluth at Hwy 13.
Will the study identify future improvements recommended? Regarding the skew and what
trumps discussion of the ¾ at Pleasant. Bryan stated the traffic control at intersection and the
ability to maintain sight lines all play a role in the safety and function of a skewed intersection.
A committee member asked a question on the goals to connect Hwy 13 to Hwy 21 and Duluth
to Acadia. Bryan stated that they are part of the evaluation criteria.
Alternative #5 more property impacts; leaves odd parcels; closes intersection at
Colorado; Pleasant to Colorado connection is eliminated.
Alternative #6 allows for short and long-term options; ¾ access at Franklin, but not
at Pleasant (would be a right-in/right-out); eliminates access on Hwy 13; good clean
grid parallel to Duluth; creates opportunities for parcel redevelopment. This option
was recommended for further evaluation. The Anna Trail connection will be studied
further.
Alternative # 7 similar to Alternative #6, but a cul-de-sac at Anna Trail; determined
to have less benefit than Alternative #6 so it was eliminated from further study.
Alternative #8 similar to Alternative #7; better connection between Duluth and
Arcadia; requires building two roads without much benefit; therefore, this option
was eliminated from further study.
Alternative #9 move the thru right turn lane; similar to Alternative #6; will be
studied further.
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Alternative #10 similar to #9; however, it requires moving a road without much
benefit; therefore, it was eliminated from further study.
Alternative #11 good north/south connection across Hwy 13; the negative is close
access spacing with Duluth so a ¾ access may not be possible; impacts some of Hwy
13; skewed intersection at Hwy 9/South Backage Rd. This option was eliminated
from further study.
Alternative #12 and #13 These alternatives did not meet the overall study goals
and therefore were eliminated from further consideration.
A considered separately to be added with development/redevelopment. Eliminate.
B and C access at Colorado if volumes are lower than anticipated these could be future
improvements. Make sure right-of-way is wide enough if needed in future based on future
traffic volumes.
D building proximity to Hwy 21; right turn lane not considered as it provides opportunity for
shorter future pedestrian crossing
2.Present Alternatives to be Studied in Detail
The committee members had several questions following the discussion of alternatives
including:
What is the status of MnDOT and their unwillingness to consider the needs of Prior
Lake? Bryan explained the location, freight, etc. all factor into signal spacing. He said it
becomes a balance of willing to live with what is there relative to safety and mobility at
one location versus multiple (cost and reduced safety).
What is the status of a pedestrian crossing? Bryan reviewed the previous study which
recommended short-to mid-term at-grade pedestrian crossing with the long-term goal
of a pedestrian overpass.
What about a pedestrian signal? Bryan stated that the County and MnDOT often treat
these similar to traffic signals. A pedestrian signal at this location is unlikely and could
potentially cause same back-up issues have today at the all-way stop.
Charlie asked about the composition of the TAC. Bryan reported the TAC consists of
representatives from MnDOT, Scott County, the City of Prior Lake and Bolton & Menk.
When will improvement be implemented? Bryan stated it depends on the alternative
chosen and landowner cooperation.
Dawn stated Alternative 3, 5 and 9 remove the ¾ access at Pleasant and Alternative #4
keeps it. This impacts businesses in south downtown for traffic coming from the south.
Is the ¾ access at Pleasant too close to Hwy 13? The location allows dual left-turn lanes
onto Hwy 21.
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What will be the speed limit on Hwy 21 with traffic signals? Scott County will evaluate
the signal timing; the speed limit has not been determined yet.
3.Present and Discuss Draft Evaluation Criteria and Measures
A draft evaluation criteria and measures was presented to the committee. Gina reviewed the
study goals and the 2030 vision and strategic plan. The following discussion was held regarding
the evaluation criteria:
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Pedestrian traffic was not evaluated at dance studio. No traffic change at Colorado
Street with the options.
Impacts to a wetland could be a positive. Need to consider expert guidance for a
potential water quality enhancement.
Who makes the decision on final recommendations? Who carries the weight? The
a Decision will be
made by the TAC members and the City Council.
What about historically designated sites? Gina stated these are not known yet.
Comparison of traffic, crosswalk at Arcadia? Will be a signal in the future with
crosswalks.
Pedestrians will not cross at Arcadia until signal is there. Bryan stated the evaluation will
consider 2030 conditions and include signals at Hwy 21/Arcadia.
Explanation of signals; 8 hours per day, approx. 100 vehicles/hour going left or thru.
County will look at volumes.
Dawn stated there is a lot of traffic at her business; higher than at St. Michaels. All of the
options do not change the traffic volume expected on Colorado. Existing safety,
accidents not studied. Will be added to criteria but will likely show no change between
alternatives.
He said he supports an incremental approach. Bryan stated that it is an option but this
helps guide decisions for landowners, residents, businesses, and developers.
Dave asked if additional study would consider Duluth/Hwy 13 intersection. He said there
are a lot of problems south of Hwy 13 that could be related to the ¾ access and full
access at Franklin. He said there would be impacts to the Bank, etc. if they remove the
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signa
based on access spacing.
Greg, there are signals further to north that are too close and provide for a vibrant
downtown. Based on discussions between Copper Creek and MnDOT, Copper Creek got
the impression that MnDOT would consider another signal if volumes are high enough.
Status of info concern about sinking at ¾.
Bryan will send out the five alternatives recommended to be studied further with the actual
alignment of each based on the information available.
4.Next Steps
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Bryan stated the next CBG meeting is tentatively scheduled for August 14 from 4 6 PM. An
open house will likely be held near the end of August.
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OWNTOWN OUTH TUDY
Citizens and Business Group Meeting#3
Prior Lake City Hall
Sept. 11, 2012 4:00 PM to 6:00 PM
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EETING INUTES
Attendees:
John Diers, Resident Charles Sunder, Ballard Sunder
David Rech, Copper Creek Gerald Ziskovsky, Church of St. Michael
John Siskoff, Resident Larry Poppler, City of Prior Lake
Patrick Heaney, Resident Katy Gehler, City of Prior Lake
Michelle Imholte, Carlson ACE Hardware Dan Rogness, City of Prior Lake
Alvin Imholte, Carlson ACE Hardware Tony Winiecki, Scott County
Gregory Schweich, Copper Creek Bryan Nemeth, Bolton & Menk, Inc.
John Parrish, Viking Liquor Gina Mitchell, Bolton & Menk, Inc.
Dawn Schulberg, Premiere Dance Academy
1.Discuss Future Forecast Traffic Volume Changes
Bryan reviewed the existing and 2030 forecasted traffic volumes. He noted that all
forecasts assume improvements of signal phasing, dual left turn lanes, and two lanes in
each direction N-S at Hwy 13 and Hwy 21. He described those drivers already on Hwy 13
south of Duluth use Hwy 13 to access Hwy 21. Traffic on Duluth is derived from either from
the surrounding neighborhoods or destined to somewhere along or near Duluth.
He described that the AM (6:30-8) and PM (3:30-6) peak hour level of service limitations in
the study area.
Arcadia and Colorado low PM peak hour
Duluth low PM peak hour
Dawn stated that right turns off of Hwy 13 are difficult at Pleasant due to there always
being a green light and it is hard for drivers to find a gap. Bryan reiterated the goal that
there are no more signals on Hwy 13 and that access has been consolidated to balance
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safety and mobility. Part of the reason identified by MnDOT for moving the Pleasant Street
access further south is to alleviate some of the right turn concerns.
Dawn questioned the timing of when traffic data was collected. Bryan stated some was
collected before school was over for the year. Summer counts were done after the
construction on Duluth was completed and before construction began on Hwy 21. Counts
were adjusted to account for the changes. Dawn reiterated that counts done in May
through September did not consider the 3800 trips per day generated by her business.
John asked Bryan to confirm the forecasts were based on Met Council projections. Bryan
explained that they were and that in 2014 Met Council will have forecasts for 2035. He
noted that in highly urban areas traffic tends not to grow much and in some cases declines,
but in suburban areas the trends are that traffic is growing at least some. For example,
Bolton & Menk has done traffic counts in Shakopee and traffic is growing at a rate of 5% a
year since the recession. He noted that forecasts are estimates and their value is to
estimate when operations completely fail. Projections that are off by 10% one way or
failure. There is a natural occurrence of traffic volumes changing by up to 20% from one day
to the next.
Dawn explained that student drop off and pick up occurs between 4-7 PM and that traffic
backs up to Integra along Colorado. She had 190 students in 2004 and 890 now. Bryan
expressed that the alternatives will not resolve those concerns along Colorado and that only
a right turn off Hwy 21 has been considered but ultimately it relies on taking property if it is
built. Right now, the property impacts are too much versus the right turn lane need.
Pat noted that Pleasant to Hwy 13 has double left turn lanes and there are 4 lanes on Hwy
13. Bryan noted that there are existing issues at 21 and 13 due to the split signal phasing.
Gerald questioned whether the Pleasant intersection will move further to the south when
13 is improved. Dawn confirmed that Pleasant improvements would happen before the
Main Street intersection is closed. Bryan stated that was accurate.
Larry noted that when the Hwy 13/Duluth signal is being replaced in 2015, adding turn lanes
will be looked at.
2.Review and Discuss Concepts
Bryan introduced the concepts. The committee members discussed the following:
#6 Concern over increased speed on Hwy 21 and the ability for pedestrians to cross at
Main. Lighting, where people actually want to cross, and a grade separated crossing
should be considered. City and County staff stated that the City, County, and MnDOT
will need to further consider pedestrian accessibility between north and south
downtown.
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#9 A ¾ access at Pleasant if one is allowed at Franklin. Discussion
about the Digger site having a right-in/right-out. Bryan stated development would likely
not happen unless the road was already built. Dave indicated that development would
be willing to pay if the intersection was controlled by a traffic signal.
3.Review and Discuss Evaluation Matrices & CBG Comments and Discussion
Bryan reminded the committee of the evaluation criteria and measures and introduced the
matrices comparing the concepts. The following discussion was held regarding the matrices:
Parking could be impacted at the funeral home. It may be possible to replace these
spaces within remnant land acquired for the road. Broader parking considerations will
need to be evaluated in future studies.
Confirmed that 4 of the homes impacted in concepts 4 and 6 are the same homes.
Confirmed a Section 106 report will be done to evaluate historic and archeological
resources if federal funding is used on the project. State and local funding for the
project are more likely than federal funding.
Wells Fargo area will need to be looked at further to determine how access to the site
would be achieved with future turn lanes in the area at Duluth/Hwy 13.
Ability for the corridor to be constructed incrementally over time or not built at all. Not
making a plan for the future would not preclude a future project and would only
increase the level of uncertainty of what would constitute a future project.
General agreement on the benefit of not disrupting Duluth and Anna with stormwater
improvements by making use of the new corridor.
Bryan stated that the committee should forward comments on the information presented.
4.Next Steps
Bryan stated that after committee comments are received a workshop will be held with the City
Council to share study information. An open house will then be held. Committee members will
be kept abreast of meeting dates and times, as well as when information is posted on the
project website.
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M E M O R A N D U M
Date: October 5, 2012
To: Technical Advisory Committee (TAC)
From: Bryan Nemeth
Subject: Downtown South Study
Draft Citizens and Business Group (CBG) Comments to Roadway Network Options
Prior Lake, MN
Thanks to all of the members of the Citizens and Business Group in dedicating time to this study. The
dedication of this group throughout the study in providing comments to the study elements provided a
needed local perspective. The comments not only assisted in decisions for this project but brought forth
additional community concerns to the City.
A preferred option has been developed in consideration of the Citizens and Business Group comments
and the evaluation matrices. The preferred option is labeled as Option 9C. Another option (9B) was also
considered. Both options have the same alignment as Option 9. 9B includes a ¾ access at the intersection
of Hwy 13 and Pleasant Street and includes a right-in/right-out at the intersection of Anna Trail/Franklin
Trail. 9C included a ¾ access at the intersection of Hwy 13 and Pleasant Street and includes a right-
in/right-out at the intersection of Hwy 13/Anna Trail and a ¾ access at Hwy 13/Franklin Trail.
The options were developed to keep the ¾ access at Pleasant Street, as that was a significant concern for
the community and is consistent with previous discussions on access, with the future changes at CH 21
and Main Avenue. MnDOT has stated that only one ¾ access will be allowed between Duluth and CH 21
on Hwy 13. Consequently, the access at Anna/Franklin Trail is shown as a right-in/right-out in 9B.
Additional discussions with MnDOT led to the creation of concept 9C.
As Anna Trail is currently a right-in/right-out, option 9C maintains the existing access configuration west
of Hwy 13. The preferred option can be implemented in stages as determined by the City. Option 9C sets
a future roadway through future development areas so that any potential development in the area knows
the future plans and the development can be accommodated consistent with the plan for the roadways.
Option 9C provides a direct connection between Duluth Avenue and Arcadia Avenue and also connects
the signals at Hwy 13 and at CH 21. The change in the location of the ¾ access results in a significant
cost decrease, making it essentially equal in cost to Option 6.
Please see the response to comments below for more specifics.
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CBG Comments Summary:
The following is presented as a summary of the numerous comments from the Citizens and Business
Group for consideration of the Downtown South roadway network alternatives. This does not include all
of the comments. The full comments are provided following the summary.
1. ¾ Access at Hwy 13 and Pleasant Street is preferred. Consistent with previous studies, original
plan
Response: The preferred option includes the ¾ access at Hwy 13/Pleasant Street.
2. Do not support options 6 and 9 since the ¾ access would be moved now or in the future
Response: The preferred option includes the ¾ access at Hwy 13/Pleasant Street.
3. ¾ access needs to be built at the same time as the CH 21/Main changes
Response: The ¾ access is planned for construction at the same time as the CH 21/Main Street
access changes.
4. Support for connection from Colorado to Pleasant
Response: The preferred option includes the connection from Colorado to Pleasant.
5. Developer gets all of the benefits in Options 6 and 9
Response: The preferred option puts forth a City plan for the preferred configuration for a
roadway through the future development area. Actual construction of this roadway will likely
require Developer assistance.
6. Option 6 opens areas for development for less cost than Option 9 and takes less homes than
Option 4
Response: The preferred option has been adjusted so that the difference in cost between the
alternatives is essentially equal.
7. Support Option 9 with ¾ access at Pleasant, RIRO at Anna/Franklin
Response: The preferred option includes this configuration.
8. Support of an incremental approach
Response: The preferred option can be implemented incrementally.
9. Oppose all options since they will cost the City money and will impact properties
Response: The preferred option will impact properties and cost money to complete, when it is
constructed. The preferred option best meets the goals and measures of the study.
10. Need the Arcadia connection from Anna to Pleasant to make roadway functional
Response: The preferred option includes the connection.
11. Colorado Street is not con
Response: The preferred option provides several access points into south Downtown to distribute
the traffic.
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12. Recognition of issues at CH 21 and Duluth, but no support for closure
Response: Scott County has indicated that the intersection will remain open in the short term but
the median will be closed in the future. A right-in/right-out will be maintained unless there are
safety concerns that necessitate its closure.
13. Option 6 may have merit with a traffic signal and downtown signage. Does not without.
Response: MnDOT has stated that another signal will not be allowed between Duluth and CH 21.
The preferred option does not include Arcadia Avenue connecting directly to Hwy 13 as shown
under Option 6.
14. Preserve existing homes, businesses, and neighborhoods
Response: The preferred option will impact some properties but preserves as many as possible.
The actual alignment will be adjusted to impact as few properties as possible, while still
maintaining appropriate design elements.
15. Do not support Option 4 due to impacts to homes and businesses, cannot be completed
incrementally, dead end on Duluth
Response: Option 4 was eliminated as the preferred option due to the impacts to homes and
businesses.
16. Protect the environment
Response: The preferred option does impact the wetland south of Pleasant Street. Mitigation of
the wetland to protect the environment will be included with the roadway designed through the
area.
17. Best potential for development in Prior Lake is at Loren Gross and Diggers properties
Response: The preferred option does provide a roadway plan that crosses through the Loren
Gross and Diggers properties and would still provide an opportunity for development.
18. Change No--E or 1-5, since NB has some build components.
Response: The No-Build will be adjusted in the documents as the baseline, since there are
buildable elements. The numbers will be maintained in recognition of the numerous alternatives
that were discussed throughout the process.
19. Install signal at CH 21 and Arcadia today, even before median changes at Main
Response: The signal is tentatively planned for in the Scott County Transportation Improvement
Plan (TIP) for 2019. The County plans to install the signal at the same time as the Main Street
median changes.
20. Safe pedestrian crossing needed today at CH 21 and Arcadia
Response: The pedestrian crossing at CH 21 and Arcadia will occur with the signal installation. It
is recognized that any at-grade pedestrian crossing of a high volume multi-lane highway is a
hazard for pedestrians. The City has and will continue to evaluate options for a grade separated
crossing opportunity on CH 21.
21. Safe pedestrian crossing needed today at CH 21 and Main
Response: The all-way stop currently at CH 21 and Main has a pedestrian crossing in which
vehicles are required to stop. It is recognized that any at-grade pedestrian crossing of a high
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volume multi-lane highway is a hazard for pedestrians. The City has and will continue to evaluate
options for a grade separated crossing opportunity on CH 21.
22. Safe pedestrian crossing needed at CH 21 and Main, pedestrian signal coordinated with Hwy 13?
Response: A traffic signal at CH 21/Main, even a pedestrian signal, will not provide the signal
access separation as recommended in the CH 21 Corridor Study. It is recognized that any at-grade
pedestrian crossing of a high volume multi-lane highway is a hazard for pedestrians. The City has
and will continue to evaluate options for a grade separated crossing opportunity on CH 21.
23. Safe pedestrian crossing needed today at Hwy 13 and Duluth
Response: A traffic signal is installed at the intersection which does provide a crosswalk across
Hwy 13. It is recognized that any at-grade pedestrian crossing of a high volume highway is a
hazard for pedestrians. The City has and will continue to evaluate options for a grade separated
crossing opportunity on Hwy 13.
24. Speed limit should be looked at on CH 21 and Hwy 13
Response: Scott County and MnDOT will continue to evaluate the speed limit along the
highways, especially as the intersection changes are implemented.
25. Traffic and pedestrian issues along Colorado Street in front of Premiere Dance Academy need to
be rectified. Traffic volumes have increased with opening of Arcadia, traffic now drops off
students on south side of Colorado instead of north side where it is safer, traffic moves too fast
through area, need a safe pedestrian crossing
Response: The City will continue to work with Premiere Dance Academy to evaluate options
along Colorado Street. With the opening of Arcadia Avenue it is recognized that patrons of
Premiere Dance Academy are now accessing Colorado Street from Arcadia Avenue, whereas it
appears that previously patrons were split between Main and Duluth. This has essentially changed
the pattern of traffic where fewer patrons are dropping off students on the north side of Colorado
and are now dropping them off on the south side of Colorado. The City will work with Premiere
Dance Academy to direct parents and patrons to drop off and pick up students on the north side of
Colorado Street as this is a safer option. Currently Colorado can be accessed off of Main. When
the median is closed, patrons should be directed to access Colorado from Main off of CH 21
(eastbound CH 21 traffic) or off of the ¾ access at Pleasant Street (southbound and northbound
Hwy 13 and westbound CH 21 traffic).
26. Need an eastbound right turn lane at Duluth from CH 21
Response: The County will continue to evaluate the need and possibility for adding a right turn
lane at the location. The County does not currently own right-of-way to accommodate a right turn
lane.
27. If no signal at CH 21 and Arcadia, install one at Duluth
Response: A signal is planned for CH 21/Arcadia and no signal is planned for CH 21 at Duluth
based on the recommendation in the CH 21 Corridor Study.
28. Decrease speed limit on Colorado from Arcadia to Main, and on Duluth from 21 to Pleasant
Response: The speed limit on all residential local streets is currently set at 30 mph. The City will
continue to evaluate the speed of vehicles on the streets and law enforcement will continue to
ticket violators.
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29. Need more identification of street names from CH 21 and Hwy 13
Response: The City will work with Scott County and MnDOT to determine what additional
signage is needed along the corridors.
30. Colorado Street snow removal should be reviewed
Response: Snow removal curb to curb is difficult in an urban situation with little to no snow
storage available adjacent to the street. The City will review their snow removal procedures along
Colorado Street to see if anything can be done.
31. Hwy 13/Duluth should be completed at same time or before CH 21/Main and Hwy 13/Pleasant
Response: The intersection improvements recommended in this study for Hwy 13/Duluth are
being considered by the City and MnDOT to occur at approximately the same time or earlier than
the improvements at CH 21/Main and Hwy 13/Pleasant.
32. Frontage road to connect Anna Trail to ¾ at Pleasant?
Response: A frontage road from Anna Trail to the ¾ at Pleasant is difficult to implement as this
would create a T-intersection immediately west of Hwy 13. This configuration has many safety
and operational issues.
33. Need improvements, including right turn lanes, at all intersections along Hwy 13
Response: The City will continue to work with MnDOT to include right turn lanes at
intersections. The recommended option does include right turn lanes for all of the public street
access points on Hwy 13 through the study area.
34. 2030 Vision Plan should be replaced with a 2012 Survival Plan, fix what is wrong today, not
what could be an issue in the future
Response: The City adopted the Vision Plan to understand the wants and needs of the City. The
Vision is updated as needed.
35. If you close down Duluth for left turns this will affect West and lake side traffic even if you say it
Response: A signal will be added at Arcadia whereas no signal will be added at West. If Duluth is
closed for some movements, traffic will go to the intersection where it is easiest to make the
movements. During the peak hours, this is Arcadia. During non-peak hours, traffic may use West,
but it is anticipated that the majority of traffic will use Arcadia as drivers will be used to using it
during the peak hours.
36. Focus on our current downtown businesses so they continue to thrive
Response: The preferred option focuses on the current downtown businesses.
37. Safety, crash, accidents, traffic counts and studies were conducted in 2005, Summer of 2011 and
during construction this spring/summer of 2012. Bolton and Menk have stated that the traffic
counts as a whole do not affect the final decision on this project. This answer is questionable
when it has an enormous effect on safety specifically with St. Michaels and Premiere Dance.
Response: Traffic volumes are part of the evaluation, especially as it relates to traffic in front of
certain pedestrian heavy destinations. All of the options, except no-build, are expected to result in
a decrease of traffic adjacent to St. Michaels. Based on the traffic projections, the traffic volume
at Premiere Dance Academy is not expected to change significantly, but the directionality may
change.
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38. Considering the option to turn Arcadia (from CR21) to a Right turn only, or creating a one way
on Colorado St will significantly cause a decline in businesses and have an enormous adverse
effect for several businesses including Premiere Dance Academy. It does not meet the CBG goal
#2.
Response: There is no option that turns Arcadia to a right turn only. Two options discussed early
on in the project were to address possible safety issues at the intersection of Colorado/Arcadia
that may develop, but may not. When a signal is installed at CH 21/Arcadia, the backups from the
signal will likely back up through the intersection of Colorado when traffic increases. This
backup may result in the development of a backup from the southbound left at Colorado,
potentially backing up traffic to CH 21, causing a safety issue on CH 21. One option was to add a
median on Arcadia through Colorado to eliminate southbound left turns, eliminating the
possibility for the southbound backup to occur. The other was to turn Colorado to a westbound
one-way street to also eliminate the southbound backup, since the movement would not be
allowed. Access to the businesses including Premiere Dance Academy would be provided from
the east off of Main, which can be accessed from the west on CH 21, and from the south, north,
and east from Pleasant Street and Main. The City anticipates that there will be no change at the
intersection unless there are safety issues.
39. Although recognized in the meetings as a concern, and is ranked in the alternative comparison
chart, the pedestrian issue discussion was not taken into consideration for discussion at the
meetings.
Response: Pedestrian safety is always a consideration, and is considered in this study. Many of
the pedestrian issues and concerns brought up during discussion were on CH 21 and Hwy 13,
which have been previously studied by the City.
40. Several comments on ranking scores of or +
Connection to Existing Businesses
Response: The rankings are based on the Alternative Evaluation Criteria. The rankings are based
on comparison to existing access.
From the north on Hwy 13, one of the two existing accesses is lost under all options (CH 21
at Main) and the access at Pleasant Street is maintained. Loss of one access.
From the south on Hwy 13, there is currently no direct access to south downtown. There is
access at CH 21/Main but drivers have to go past south downtown through CH 21/Hwy 13 to
get there. Since traffic has to backtrack, Arcadia is considered to be an equivalent access. A
connection is also provided at Duluth Avenue. By adding any ¾ access on Hwy 13, the
access is increased by one. Gain of one access.
From the west on CH 21, there are currently two direct accesses to south downtown, one at
Arcadia and one at Main. The closure of the median at Main will not change the access for
this direction of traffic. The future options do not change the number of accesses. No change
in access.
From the east on CH 21, one of the two existing accesses is lost under all options (CH 21 at
Main) and the access at Pleasant Street is maintained. Loss of one access.
41. Option 1: Additional undetermined stop signs are added
Response: Stop signs are anticipated to be the same as today, except at Pleasant, which is
anticipated to be a stop for Arcadia under option 1. Under all other options or when option 1 is
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part of an incremental approach, the stop signs are expected to be installed on Pleasant, and
Arcadia would function as the through street.
42. Several comments on ranking scores of
Response: The rankings are based on the Alternative Evaluation Criteria. Under the category, the
focus was
actually encompasses opening up area beyond the south downtown and transitional town center
within the City. Since existing businesses are located in the South Downtown, it was not a goal to
open areas to replace those existing businesses.
43. Option 1: 4 homes taken. Are these residents on board already?
Response: The study process involves developing a roadway concept that best meets the project
goals. The community will be informed of the options and will have an opportunity to comment.
The concept as developed will include property acquisition. How this acquisition will be
completed will be up to the City and the City will work with the property owners.
44. Option 4: 12 homes taken. In 2011, the decision was made to NOT have this large of an impact
on roadways and housing in this area. The council agreed. Is this currently back on the table for
consideration?
Response: The preferred concept is not option 4, much of the reason lies in the number of
property acquisitions. This concept was evaluated since it is the only option that meets all of the
goals and avoids the wetland. If the City wants to acquire funding from outside sources, an option
that avoids the wetlands is required as an alternative. This evaluation provides the full analysis
against the other options and was ultimately eliminated for multiple reasons, including the
property acquisition.
45. I think the city has the ability to have some very tough discussions with Mn/Dot and Scott County
to deliver what we need for the community.
Exceptions have been made in the
past and will continue to be made in the future.
Response: The City will continue to work with MnDOT and Scott County on access
considerations, but the preferred option maintains the access as stated through previous studies
and as agreed upon by MnDOT and Scott County.
46. The Loren Gross and Diggers properties are the best potential site for downtown growth today.
future without ingress/egress challenges that exist today with those vacant properties. For those
potentially 60 residences within walking distance of downtown as significant. Expanding the
potential size of downtown allows the community to flourish by creating the desire/demand but
without taking out 20 or 30 historic homes and destroying the small town feel we are all fighting
so hard for. This road could solve most of downtowns parking problems, too and no one else is
offering a solution that delivers that.
Response: The City includes the Loren Gross and Diggers properties as future commercial and
residential growth areas in the 2030 Comprehensive Plan. None of the options eliminate the
possibility for development in the areas, but some of the options do set a future roadway network
design through the area that is acceptable to the City based on this study. A future roadway
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network concept that runs through the properties does help to open the areas since it sets up a
future plan for the area.
Comments from Prior Lake/Spring Park Watershed District
47. While a wetland delineation is provided for the complex north of the former Diggers Polaris site
(W-114-22-02-12 and W-114-22-02-13), there is no delineation provided for the wetland to the
west of that site (W-114-22-02-11). Given that Concept 9 proposes a realignment that could
encroach upon W-114-22-02-11, the District recommends obtaining a wetland delineation and
evaluating the potential impact of the alternatives on that wetland.
Response: A wetland delineation has not been completed for the southern wetland. The preferred
concept would run adjacent to this wetland and the preliminary design process will include a
wetland delineation. The specific roadway alignment will be determined during preliminary
design and will be adjusted to minimize wetland impacts.
48. Topographic lines would help in determining the potential impact of various actions.
Response: Survey of the area has not been completed at this time. The preliminary design will
include the survey which will include the topography.
49.
appears to indicate that concepts 6 and 9 have greater potential wetland impacts.
Response: The summary just compares the alternatives against one another, and not against any
specific measure. Concepts 6 and 9 do have greater potential for wetland impacts, so they are
ranked lower.
50.
would be a better classification of that review element.
Response: Historic structures could be classified under both depending on your point of view.
Review of the categories was conducted and historic structures were moved to Built
Environment.
51. Overall, the materials lay out the benefits and detriments of the alternative concepts relative to
one another quite well. Given the goals and priorities of the District as outlined in our 2010
Comprehensive Plan, and the fairly narrow scope of review for this project, I feel the District
would be most supportive of the design alternatives that minimize impacts to water resources,
which would be the no-build, concept 1, and concept 4 alternatives. However, the overall
Downtown South project entails more than is encapsulated in the materials provided, and the
-addressed activities. The
preferred approach would be for the District to provide input on an overall plan for the
Downtown South area, incorporating at least transportation, zoning, and parks & open spaces.
With this approach, areas of mutual interest (such as hydrologic manipulation, promotion of
public engagement with natural resources, and potential wetland restoration) could be explored,
and the District could consider financial partnership on specific project elements. It is difficult to
explore these areas of potential partnership when reviewing individual elements of an overall plan
in isolation.
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Response: The City will continue to work with the District to analyze and determine the un-
addressed activities. The preliminary design of any future roadway will determine specific
alignments and set up an overall plan for the area that includes the elements mentioned.
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Comments
With a stop light at Franklin Trail and 13, and proper signage as the entrance to downtown, option 6 had
some merit. Without the stoplight it does not.
1. At this point the options that contain the 3/4 access into downtown south would be acceptable.
2. Pedestrian crossing 21 at main needs to be addressed now. Traffic speed should be no more than
30 mph and signage should be improved.
3. I would be willing to provide any additional information you would like.
It seems that you the city and the developers are all in favor of 6 and 9, but those 2 dont help and only
hurt your existing businesses that have been supporting Prior Lake for years. The 3/4 access on Pleasant is
something that will actually help Downtown South when the Main Street is closed. So why would the city
want to hurt the existing businesses in favor of what could be someday? Also if you close down Duluth
for left turns this will affect West and lake side traffic even if you say it wont. Why would one go east to
go west seems silly right? ¾ on Pleasant is a must with any plan.
As we move forward through the discussion sessions, and for the sake of clarity, please change the option
labeled "No Build" to a more accurate label- such as: "Basic Plan- Phase II", or "Existing Plan", or even
label the final five plans as A-E or 1-5. The "No Build" option is not void of building. Along with the
three identified hot spots that need addressing- 3/4 access at Pleasant & 13, the intersection of Main & 21,
and the intersection of Duluth & 21, there are numerous other ideas that should be discussed, and could
improve the pedestrian and traffic movement and safety throughout the downtown area. These proposals
would require modest investments in construction costs- plus the added incentive of being studied,
monitored, modified, and even eliminated if deemed unsuccessful.
I. Arcadia/ 21 Intersection
A) Install the traffic light now. Do not wait 3-5 years to promote pedestrian traffic- and
vehicle movement - near the library, city hall, Colorado Avenue businesses, and other
connected downtown areas.
B) Install a crosswalk signal that would be used as needed. This short-term solution would
also allow for a safe pedestrian movement between the center of north and south downtown.
C) With any traffic/pedestrian mix, place clear signage throughout the area to inform all
parties of the upcoming intersection.
II. Arcadia/Colorado/Dance Studio (and neighboring businesses- plus the VFW traffic demands)
* With the opening of Arcadia, very demanding and potentially serious traffic situations
could arise. Enrollment of nearly 900 children creates a "school environment" within the
expanded traffic pattern.
A) Install a crosswalk light at the street crossing of the dance studio. It will again be used as
needed- generally from 4p.m.- 9p.m.
B) Close off the west end driveway of the municipal lot (across from the dance studio and T-
Shirts & More) and expand- and clean up- the east entrance.
C) Create a 20 mph slowdown zone on Colorado from Arcadia to Main Street.
III. Duluth/21 Intersection
A) Expand/widen eastbound 21 right turn lane onto Duluth (The same with the right turn lane
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on West Avenue).
B) If no light is placed on Arcadia, install a traffic light at Duluth & 21- favoring the traffic
volume on 21. Also allowing a limited time for west bound traffic turning left off of 21 onto
Duluth.
C) Create a 20 mph slow down zone from Duluth/21 intersection past St. Michael's school,
church, and parking lot.
IV. Main Avenue/21 Intersection
* Background assumptions- This intersection has cost our citizens thousands of dollars in
consultant fees and studies, taken hundreds of hours of citizen, business, and government
discussions, and still remains a present day hot spot.
A) Install a pedestrian crosswalk traffic light that could synch with the present 13 & 21
traffic light- and possibly the Arcadia light. This crosswalk light would obviously be used
only as needed.
B) Identify this intersection more clearly with increased signage, street painting, and a
possible overhead identification.
As a final thought, after discussions with many business owners, and residents within- and
outside- the downtown area , the solutions for some of our problems do not require
immediate attention. Examples: The right in/right out options on the Pleasant Street/21
intersection (near Fong's) is presently working fine. The right in/right out at Duluth & 21 is
working well also. However, the left turn onto west bound 21 is potentially dangerous- and
the left turn from west bound 21 onto Duluth is challenging and often traffic clogging.
Therefore, an incremental approach is the best option to our challenging traffic pattern
throughout our downtown area. Arguably, the $3.1 million dollar intersection at Arcadia &
21 did not move us forward- and has created some predicted, potential problems. We need to
address these challenges with a balanced, frugal approach. We also need open discussions
that ask the questions- Is it necessary? Who benefits? Who pays? And, are there alternatives
that could be implemented for short term solutions- then evaluated, modified, and even
eliminated if deemed unsuccessful. We know the challenges, but the solutions can be
complex. Sometimes, simple steps could lead us in the right direction.
Please consider the following in the studies, conclusions and final decisions regarding the Downtown
South Study Alternatives.
FOR ALL OPTIONS:
3/4 Accessibility at Pleasant St and Hwy 13:
*Based upon the Arcadia road project, the decision was approved and agreed upon to place a median at
Main and CR21 at which time Pleasant Street and Hwy 13 were to become a ¾ access to provide
accessibility to our downtown residents and businesses. Options 6 & 9 moves the ¾ access to Anna &
Franklin Trl which requires a long travel time for consumers, customers & residents to travel through a
neighborhood to locate and provide commerce to our south downtown area. If 6 & 9 is chosen, the Right
street network that is consistent with the CR 21 plan, provides connectivity and facilities for motorists,
pedestrians and bicyclists between downtown and other destinations, provides access to downtown south
t
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with the CR 21 plan, it does not provide access to downtown businesses and provides very little access to
Duluth.
Changing our roadways for possible future development is key, however we must also remain focused on
our current downtown businesses so they continue to thrive. Placing the ¾ turn further south will have an
enormous impact on businesses and residents traveling from the south. Pleasant Street and Hwy 13 must
remain a ¾ despite future development to the south. The Duluth and Hwy 13 access should be adequate
connection to new development with a right in/right out at Anna and Franklin. Changing access to our
south downtown, whether it is now or in the future, could affect the viability of the current businesses and
should not be a consideration.
Considering the option to turn Arcadia (from CR21) to a Right turn only, or creating a one way on
Colorado St will significantly cause a decline in businesses and have an enormous adverse effect for
several businesses including Premiere Dance Academy. It does not meet the CBG goal #2. (see above).
Duluth and CR21:
*
The possibility of fully closing Duluth and CR21 in the future, for any of the options being considered,
could be regrettable. It is a strong connection to the south portion of downtown. For our residents,
schools, and businesses, Duluth and CR 21 should remain accessible.
Traffic & Pedestrians:
*The traffic on Colorado St. has already increased since Arcadia has opened. Safety, crash, accidents,
traffic counts and studies were conducted in 2005, Summer of 2011 and during construction this
spring/summer of 2012. Bolton and Menk have stated that the traffic counts as a whole do not affect the
final decision on this project. This answer is questionable when it has an enormous effect on safety
specifically with St. Michaels and Premiere Dance. Increasing the crosswalk signage and/or creating other
crosswalk changes to promote safety is vital to everyone. The Star Tribune has recently published an
article (dated Sept 9 2012) regarding the increase in ac
metro, cities are installing more neon yellow crossing signs and engineers are shifting street design to
consider pedestrians as well as motorists. The state is this month also launching its first pedestrian safety
*The original approved design for Premiere Dance Academy was to provide a safe drop off area in front
of the building for young students. The Arcadia project without the ¾ at Pleasant/Hwy13 will now change
the flow and direction of traffic and will provide a challenge to our students (they will be dropped off on
the other side of the street). This safety issue is alarming and could have an adverse effect on this
business. This business should be considered not unlike any other school in the district. Enrollment is
currently (Sept 2012) at 890 students attending multiple times per week for an approximate 3800 drop
off/pickups per WEEK. St Michaels enrollment is approximately 550.
*
Although recognized in the meetings as a concern, and is ranked in the alternative comparison chart, the
pedestrian issue discussion was not taken into consideration for discussion at the meetings.
DETAILED OPTION COMMENTS:
No Build Option:
*No future infrastructure and roadway connections. Roat
*Colorado Street is a small street that is not comparable to Main, Duluth or Pleasant St. It is not
everyone. Arcadia St and Colorado St affect traffic flow and increase current congestion. Future stop
lights will cause traffic to back up at Arcadia. The distance from Premiere Dance and Arcadia St is short
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and could create a huge back up at the stop signs and in front of Premiere. Please consider that people
will be stopping to drop children off and traffic will be interrupted by students attempting to cross the
street and parents who are attempting to drop or pick up their child. It will be a surprise approach to all
involved and will create congestion and huge safety risks.
-ort of connection to
existing north on hwy 13 to downtown, this should actually
Option 1
:
*Incremental development potential as growth occurs
*Appears to show reasonable traffic fluidity through downtown
*Additional undetermined stop signs are added
*3/4 access remains open at Pleasant for south downtown accessibility
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north on hwy 13 to downtown, this ranking should
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton &b Menk Study, regarding the Economic Viability of this option,
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Option 4:
*Longer movement traveling from the south to our downtown
*Dead end at Duluth
-
north on Hwy 13 to downtown, this ranking
e ¾ access on Pleasant Ave. This would change the overall ranking.
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton &b Menk Study, regarding the Economic Viability of this option,
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Option 6:
*3/4 Access will be open at Anna Trl and Franklin Trl for new development. ¾ access will be closed for
our south downtown residents and businesses The Right in/Right out at Pleasant does not meet our CBG
connectivity and facilities for motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists between downtown and other
destinations, provides access to downtown south businesses and provides access for traffic between
downtown businesses and provides very little access to Duluth Ave.
*This option is only beneficial to the developer and not the existing businesses downtown. This helps the
city with a larger tax base, but opens the door to lose tax base from existing businesses that could fail
based on the design with limited or no accessibility to downtown from the south. (3/4 access at Pleasant
& Hwy 13). Thus, this is a fatal flaw in that the developer gains and existing fails.
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*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton & Menk Study, regarding the Connectivity and Accessibility of
this -
because it does NOT provide a reasonable connection to the south downtown area of the city. For
instance, coming from the south, how do you arrive at Fongs, VFW, Ace Hardware, Viking Liquor,
Integra, T-Shirts & More, Premiere Dance Academy without traveling from Anna Trail/Franklin Trail
through a long connection with several turns to before arriving safely at your destination.
Option 9:
*3/4 Access will be closed for our south downtown residents and businesses The Right in/Right out at
Pleasant does
with the CR 21 plan, provides connectivity and facilities for motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists between
downtown and other destinations, provides access to downtown south businesses and provides access for
ent with the CR 21 plan, it does not
provide access to downtown businesses and provides very little access to Duluth Ave.
*This option is only beneficial to the developer and not the existing businesses downtown. This helps the
city with a larger tax base, but opens the door to lose tax base from existing businesses that could fail
based on the design with limited or no accessibility to downtown from the south. (3/4 access at Pleasant
& Hwy 13). Thus, this is a fatal flaw in that the developer gains and existing fails.
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton & Menk Study, regarding the Connectivity and Accessibility of
-
because it does NOT provide a reasonable connection to the south downtown area of the city. For
instance, coming from the south, how do you arrive at Fongs, VFW, Ace Hardware, Viking Liquor,
Integra, T-Shirts & More, Premiere Dance Academy without traveling from Anna Trail/Franklin Trail
through a long connection with several turns to before arriving safely at your destination.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
*Snow: Snow and snow plowing currently have an enormous impact on Colorado St. Snow decreases
parking spaces & street size. It affects the crosswalk area and street parking. During the winter, with
snow and ice issues, the pedestrian crosswalk sign (located in the center of the street) must be removed
off
for the plows, snowstorms, and ice problems. This sign is the street until spring time. The
neighboring businesses have no snow removal practices in place and thus create an enormous amount of
snow that blocks the crosswalk area access and decreases the road size. The crosswalk signs are only
ing ahead that children may be crossing the street.
Incremental roadway options for the future are excellent opportunities for our City, however removing the
¾ access cannot jeopardize, compromise or reduce the viability of our current businesses and resident
access. Incremental options could assist everyone in adapting new development and future expansion of
our city without dismissing the current opportunities available. It will only be a positive move for
everyone if we can move forward along with the economy, the progress of Prior Lake and the
occur in the future and money was spent without forward thinking and minimal impact for all.
We agreed that we would submit our comments, together, because we share the same concerns and have
heard similar issues expressed by downtown business people and residents of the Pleasant Street
neighborhood.
Fundamentally, we believe we need to take care of the issues and problems we face now and in the next
five years, not 20 years from now. None of the so-
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criterion. Economists and demographers tell us there is a major shift in growth patterns on the way as the
baby boomers age and the, so-
already. Currently, the hottest real estate markets are in downtown Minneapolis and Lowertown in
downtown St. Paul. There is also considerable activity along the Central Corridor light rail line, which
will serve both downtowns and the University of Minnesota The same is true in other large metropolitan
areas. Funds for road building are, also, scarce. t all
needs, and MNDOT is focusing on maintenance and the improvement of existing infrastructure, not new
grow, but at a slower pace, which is why we b
wisely and incrementally, not according to 20-year traffic projections and development plans. Above all,
we should not be using $4.5 million of public money for private development. If the developers of the
profits, and they should be responsible for both.
Generally:
* Deal with the congestion and traffic issues that already exist. This may be t
it is the alternative that is consistent with available public resources.
* Pedestrian and bike access are criticalgrade separated crossings of Hwy 21 at Main and Arcadia and
Hwy 13 and Duluth are urgently needed and are an ideal solutioneither pedestrian bridges or tunnels. If
of time before someone is killed or seriously injured attempting to cross these roadways. The present
all about roads, not people.
* Preserve existing homes, businesses, and neighborhoods and protect the environment. Ripping apart an
existing neighborhood, taking homes, or building a road through a protected wetland are neither
sustainable, nor are they in the best long term interests of the city especially when proposed solely to
satisfy short term development interests.
Finally, I want to compliment you, and others, at Bolton-ve done. You were
handed a difficult, controversial assignment that has profound implications for the businesses and
Please consider the following in the studies, conclusions and final decisions regarding the Downtown
South Study Alternatives.
FOR ALL OPTIONS:
Duluth and CR21:
*
The possibility of fully closing Duluth and CR21 in the future, for any of the options being considered,
could be regrettable. It is a strong connection to the south portion of downtown. For our residents,
schools, and businesses, Duluth and CR 21 should remain accessible.
3/4 Accessibility at Pleasant St and Hwy 13:
*Based upon the Arcadia road project, the decision was approved and agreed upon to place a median at
Main and CR21 at which time Pleasant Street and Hwy 13 were to become a ¾ access to provide
accessibility to our downtown residents and businesses. Options 6 & 9 moves the ¾ access to Anna &
Franklin Trl which requires a long travel time for consumers, customers & residents to travel through a
neighborhood to locate and provide commerce to our south downtown area. If 6 & 9 is chosen, the Right
e
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street network that is consistent with the CR 21 plan, provides connectivity and facilities for motorists,
pedestrians and bicyclists between downtown and other destinations, provides access to downtown south
businesses and provides access for traffic b
with the CR 21 plan, it does not provide access to downtown businesses and provides very little access to
Duluth.
Changing our roadways for possible future development is key, however we must also remain focused on
our current downtown businesses so they continue to thrive. Placing the ¾ turn further south will have an
enormous impact on businesses and residents traveling from the south. Pleasant Street and Hwy 13 must
remain a ¾ despite future development to the south. The Duluth and Hwy 13 access should be adequate
connection to new development with a right in/right out at Anna and Franklin. Changing access to our
south downtown, whether it is now or in the future, for and unknown development, cuts off the viability
of the current businesses and should not be a consideration.
Considering the option to turn Arcadia (from CR21) to a Right turn only, or creating a one way on
Colorado St will significantly cause a decline in businesses and have an enormous adverse effect for
Premiere Dance Academy. It does not meet the CBG goal #2. (see above)
Traffic & Pedestrians:
*The traffic on Colorado St. has already increased since Arcadia has opened. Safety, crash, accidents,
traffic counts and studies were conducted in 2005, Summer of 2011 and during construction this
spring/summer of 2012. Bolton and Menk have stated that the traffic counts as a whole do not affect the
final decision on this project. This answer is questionable when it has an enormous effect on safety
specifically with St. Michaels and Premiere Dance. Can we address future crosswalk possibilities for all
areas? The Star Tribune has recently published an article (dated Sept 9 2012) regarding the increase in
accidents and injuries at crosswalk
signs and engineers are shifting street design to consider pedestrians as well as motorists. The state is this
month also launching its first pedestrian safety campaign in nearly 15 year
*The original approved design for Premiere Dance Academy was to provide a safe drop off area in front
of the building for young students. The Arcadia project without the ¾ at Pleasant/Hwy13 will now change
the flow and direction of traffic and will provide a challenge to our students (they will be dropped off on
the other side of the street). This safety issue is alarming and could have an adverse effect on this
business.
*Premiere Dance Academy should be considered not unlike any other school in the district. Enrollment is
currently (Sept 2012) at 890 students attending multiple times per week for an approximate 3800 drop
off/pickups per WEEK. St Michaels enrollment is approximately 550.
*
Although recognized in the meetings as a concern, and is ranked in the alternative comparison chart, the
pedestrian issue discussion was not taken into consideration for discussion at the meetings.
DETAILED OPTION COMMENTS:
No Build Option:
*Closes Duluth St/CR21 accessibility
*3/4 Access will open when Main median is installed
*No homes are taken
*0.3M (todays cost)
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*Pedestrian Crossing is unknown
*Colorado Street is a small street that is not comparable to Main, Duluth or Pleasant St. It is not
everyone. Arcadia St and Colorado St affect traffic flow and increase current congestion. Future stop
lights will cause traffic to back up at Arcadia. The distance from Premiere Dance and Arcadia St is short
and could create a huge back up at the stop signs and in front of Premiere. Please consider that people will
be stopping to drop children off and traffic will be interrupted by students attempting to cross the street
and parents who are attempting to drop or pick up their child. It will be a surprise approach to all involved
and will create congestion and huge safety risks.
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton & Menk Study-
existing north on hwy 13 to downtown, this should actually
Option 1
:
*Closes Duluth St/CR21 accessibility
*3/4 Access remains open, when Main median is installed
*4 homes taken. Are these residents on board already?
*1.6M (todays cost)
*Pedestrian Crossing is unknown
*Incremental development as growth occurs
*Better fluidity through downtown
*Additional undetermined stop signs are added
*3/4 access remains open at Pleasant for south downtown accessibility
-
In the column regarding traveling north on hwy 13 to downtown, this ranking should
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton &b Menk Study, regarding the Economic Viability of this option,
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t
Option 4:
*Closes Duluth St/CR21 accessibility
*3/4 Access remains open when Main median is installed
*12 homes taken. In 2011, the decision was made to NOT have this large of an impact on roadways and
housing in this area. The council agreed. Is this currently back on the table for consideration?
*3.9M (todays cost)
*Pedestrian Crossing unknown
*Affect on Ballard Sunder?
*Council is opposed to this because it is not conducive to incremental options
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*Longer movement traveling from the south to our downtown
*Dead end at Duluth
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north on Hwy 13 to downtown, this ranking
his would change the overall ranking.
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton &b Menk Study, regarding the Economic Viability of this option,
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become a-
Option 6:
*Closes Duluth St/CR21 accessibility
*3/4 Access will be open at Anna Trl and Franklin Trl for new development. ¾ access will be closed for
our south downtown residents and businesses The Right in/Right out at Pleasant does not meet our CBG
connectivity and facilities for motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists between downtown and other
destinations, provides access to downtown south businesses and provides access for traffic between
downtown businesses and provides very little access to Duluth Ave.
*5 homes taken
*3.6M (todays cost)
*No Pedestrian crossing
*Undetermined wetland impact
*This option is only beneficial to the developer and not the existing businesses downtown. This helps the
city with a larger tax base, but opens the door to lose tax base from existing businesses that could fail
based on the design with limited or no accessibility to downtown from the south. (3/4 access at Pleasant
& Hwy 13). Thus, this is a fatal flaw in that the developer gains and existing fails.
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton & Menk Study, regarding the Connectivity and Accessibility of
this -
because it does NOT provide a reasonable connection to the south downtown area of the city. For
instance, coming from the south, how do you arrive at Fongs, VFW, Ace Hardware, Viking Liquor,
Integra, T-Shirts & More, Premiere Dance Academy without traveling from Anna Trail/Franklin Trail
through a long connection with several turns to before arriving safely at your destination.
Option 9:
*Closes Duluth St/CR21 accessibility
*3/4 Access will be closed for our south downtown residents and businesses The Right in/Right out at
Pleasant does
with the CR 21 plan, provides connectivity and facilities for motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists between
downtown and other destinations, provides access to downtown south businesses and provides access for
provide access to downtown businesses and provides very little access to Duluth Ave.
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*5 homes taken
*4.5M (todays cost)
*No Pedestrian crossing
*Undetermined wetland impact
*This option is only beneficial to the developer and not the existing businesses downtown. This helps the
city with a larger tax base, but opens the door to lose tax base from existing businesses that could fail
based on the design with limited or no accessibility to downtown from the south. (3/4 access at Pleasant
& Hwy 13). Thus, this is a fatal flaw in that the developer gains and existing fails.
*Comparing Alternatives in the Bolton & Menk Study, regarding the Connectivity and Accessibility of
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because it does NOT provide a reasonable connection to the south downtown area of the city. For
instance, coming from the south, how do you arrive at Fongs, VFW, Ace Hardware, Viking Liquor,
Integra, T-Shirts & More, Premiere Dance Academy without traveling from Anna Trail/Franklin Trail
through a long connection with several turns to before arriving safely at your destination.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
*Snow: Snow and snow plowing currently have an enormous impact on Colorado St. Snow decreases
parking spaces & street size. It affects the crosswalk area and street parking. During the winter, with
snow and ice issues, the pedestrian crosswalk sign (located in the center of the street) must be removed
off
for the plows, snowstorms, and ice problems. This sign is the street until spring time. The neighboring
businesses have no snow removal practices in place and thus create an enormous amount of snow that
blocks the crosswalk area access and decreases the road size. The crosswalk signs are only seen when
*Incremental roadway options for the future are excellent opportunities for our City, however removing
the ¾ access cannot jeopardize, compromise or reduce the viability of our current businesses and resident
access. Incremental options could assist everyone in adapting new development and future expansion of
our city without dismissing the current opportunities available. It will only be a positive move for
everyone if we can move forward along with the economy, the progress of Prior Lake and the
consideration of current
occur in the future and money was spent without forward thinking and minimal impact for all.
I believe the 3/4 access needs to remain at pleasant and 13 as that would shut down the downtown to the
south of 21 to residents in the south of town. I say concept 9 WITHOUT the road access to hwy 13 would
work better, the developer saying they wont build on diggers property is holding the city hostage to do it
their way, and if we go with this we say forget about connecting downtown, this would split it more!!! 3/4
is need to get to main ave. from the south!! builders will build along a roadway like concept 9 without the
access as everyone will travel turning right on 21 to arcadia and right past businesses or up from Duluth
turn from south, I live to south and I would turn at Duluth to get to new stores from south instead of 3/4 at
Anna tr. Could a connect road be made off pleasant to south to connect to new diggers places.
Also, before anything is done I believe the Duluth ave. and Hwy 13 intersection needs to be done the
same time the 3/4 at pleasant and the median restrictions on 21 are put into place.
p.s. still find it sad that it takes 2 months to get all info together and we need response in under 2 weeks,
just not right!!!
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Here are my opinions on the current situation and the five options in front of the committee for feedback.
In general:
I think we all agree there are significant challenges with the existing situation at the intersections along 21
at West, at Duluth, at Arcadia now, at Main and 13. We along with the community were brought together
to try and clarify what the challenges are and come up with some potential solutions. I credit the Mayor,
the City Council and City Staff with trying to engage the population to address these challenges and
hopefully, this approach will deliver better decisions than may have been made in the past.
spent a tremendous amount of our time and resources focused on what was done wrong in the past, this
was not our charter nor was it very productive but maybe we had to relive that to try and improve the
outcomes this time.
I believe that if we continue to make the same mistakes the few rays of potential sunshine recently added
downtown will follow in the footsteps of their predecessors and succumb to the lack of people
downtown. We need to address moving the lumber yard and the service and body shop out of downtown
and develop a strategy to attract business appropriate for a successful downtown. Maybe the current
If we do create this
If
We really should put the horse in front of the cart.
Lastly, I think the city has the ability to have some very tough discussions with Mn/Dot and Scott County
to deliver what we need for the community. lking
Exceptions have been made in the past and will
continue to be made in the future. To do this we just have to find the creativity to make it work for all
sides. Our city Leaders need to step up a
future.
too.
My recommendations:
1. Connect Arcadia to Pleasant now, I can see no reason why we stopped at Colorado and this will
take the pressure off Duluth and Colorado and give the new intersection an opportunity to address
what it was intended for. This should help St Mikes and Premier Dance and not impede their
ability to continue to grow in the future. As for stop signs and speed limits, I leave that to the
experts, but agree we must maintain a safe environment for all.
2. If we must close Main to through traffic put in the ¾ access at Pleasant and if and when the traffic
becomes a problem we I do not think the majority of traffic for downtown
compromise with the state and county.
3. The Loren Gross and Diggers properties are the best potential site for downtown growth today.
future without ingress/egress challenges that exist today with those vacant properties. For those
of you w
potentially 60 residences within walking distance of downtown as significant. Expanding the
potential size of downtown allows the community to flourish by creating the desire/demand but
without taking out 20 or 30 historic homes and destroying the small town feel we are all fighting
so hard for. This road could solve most of downtowns parking problems, too and no one else is
offering a solution that delivers that. Lastly cleaning up the wetland should not be tolerated if it
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downtown and not the eye sore it is today. I propose we choose option 6 over 9 as we can
accomplish almost the same results with some minor modifications to arcadia without taking out
more homes and spending almost a million dollars more.
fund the
road work. I recommend we do not put the cart before the horse here, build it when we need it.
We are making such great progress with Prior Lake, the Schools, better access to the metro area through
attracting to live here and the money their spending on
the benefits of our actions. in the way by
being near sighted. We can grow without destroying who and what we are.
I have worked on the corner of 21 and main for the last 18 years and have seen how that intersection
performs and also the intersection of 21 and 13 perform at all hours of the day. There are times of the day
when traffic is heavy and there is a backup, but then again I can go to most areas in the twin cities at
certain times of the day and find the same problem. I do not feel that the traffic is keeping people from
shopping at my business. I do not think the huge traffic increase that was being predicted when 21
was opened to 169 has occurred. I have seen many different proposals over the years on how to fix the
problems in this area and I have yet to see one that makes me say wow that is the answer. The money has
been spent and we have an intersection at 21 and Arcadia now. That was phase one of an eventual median
at 21 and main. As part of that plan a 3/4 intersection was going to be installed at 13 and pleasant. I think
it is important for the downtown that we follow this original plan to ensure traffic flow into downtown
from all areas. I do not know if some sort of frontage road could be put in place so that 3/4 intersection
could also serve the diggers property as well since the 21 and pleasant 3/4 intersection is being proposed
further south on 13. I do feel that Arcadia should be completed to pleasant to make that road more
functional. The way the town and its roads are layed out, there is no perfect solution and having to deal
with the county and state on most issues presents an even bigger challenge.
Downtown South Study Ranked Evaluation Summary & Comment
As requested I'm sharing my comments on draft alternatives and recommendations with the project team
for the TAC to consider. Thank you Bryan T. Nemeth and Gina Mitchell of Bolton & Menk, Inc. and
committee members for your time and effort we have contributed to this study. The original contract
amount was $26,240.00 ity to the study" additional
$14,100.00 Total cost $40,340.00
Initially we started with fifteen different concepts and several draft alternatives. From the fifteen concepts
and several draft alternatives we narrowed them down to five. After countless hours trying to weigh all
the advantages and disadvantages of the five concepts I still adhere to my recommendation I originally
submitted on Mon, June 25, 2012 "My Comments on Draft Alternatives and Recommendations for the
TAC to consider from the initial study". If you need a copy of my Comments on Draft Alternatives and
Recommendations from June 25, 2012, please let me know.
Again, I submit and recommend the no-build concept design. However, despite my recommendation of
the no-build concept it doesn't come without reservation.
I'm deeply concerned for the safety of the pedestrians trying to cross Main Street and Co Rd 21 because
of the closed median at Main Street and a future controlled signal at Arcadia. Without the speed limit
reduced and enforced on Co Rd 21 we will have problems with traffic speeding through the traffic signals
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at both Hwy 13 & Co Rd 21 and Arcadia & Co Rd 21. Motorists approaching a green light at Arcadia
upon seeing a green light in the distance at Hwy 13 will increase their speed in order to pass through the
green or yellow light at Hwy 13, and Vice Versa. There will be little or no regard for the speed limits,
stop signs or pedestrian safety at those intersections. Trying to cross the intersection at Main Street with a
closed median could be utter suicide no matter what the speed limit is. Presently it is a challenge to safely
cross four lanes of traffic at Main Street and Co Rd 21 with the existing 4 way stop signs.
In the event that Main Street and Co Rd 21 will have a closed median before a controlled signal is
installed at Arcadia and Co Rd 21, pedestrian safety would be greatly jeopardized.
In any case with or without the light at Arcadia pedestrian safety will be hazardous.
This is not a well thought out plan. Seems more like a last ditch effort in order to keep the traffic flowing
and developing private property for a developer at the expense of the pedestrian, residents and established
businesses of Prior Lake. Before we build more roads and intersections we need to start immediately
addressing the congested traffic and speeding problems that exist now along Co Rd 21.
Now that we have a better understanding of the States involvement and time frame completion of the
Hwy 13 & Co Rd 21 intersection, possibly by the year 2030, I cannot recommend any of the other four
design concepts. In today's environment of dramatic economic and social changes the 2030 time frame
completion is too far in the future to assume what we build today will be workable that far in the future.
We must also take into consideration there isn't any specific mention of the States involvement in any of
the other five intersections, (State Highway 13 and Duluth, State Highway 13 and Pleasant Street, State
Highway 13 at both Franklin Trail intersections, State Highway 13 and Dakota, and State Highway 13 at
160th Street.) All these intersections are directly or indirectly tied into any future development of
Downtown South Business concept. These five intersections are all in dire need of reconstruction,
especially needed right turn lanes.
Taking into Consideration the time frame reconstruction of Hwy 13 & Co Rd 21 intersection any future
development in the immediate Downtown South is a moot point without the states immediate
involvement.
I'm having a hard time justifying why a study was done in the first place if the city knew the State wasn't
on board with any immediate plans for the intersections on Hwy 13 & Co Rd 21. To my knowledge from
our first Citizens and Business Group (CBG) meeting, the city and county engineers stated that the State
Department of Transportation has higher priorities at this time instead of addressing Congestion at
County Road 21 and Highway #13 that is closely tied to backups at Main Avenue
What frustrates me more is the fact that the Prior Lake City Council members on Aug. 27 approved an
additional $14,100 for Bolton and Menk to complete its work on the downtown south traffic study it had
already begun. The original contract amount was $26,240 the addition raises the cities fee to $40,340
Bolton and Menk, in a letter to the city dated Aug. 8, explained that the scope of the study had broadened
mall area on Highway 13.
A commercial plan submitted
explored, said City Engineer Larry Poppler. Such a proposal also could affect homes between the south
downtown area and the mall.
Something wasn't adding up. I remembered getting an email from Bryan Nemeth from Bolton and Menk,
about our committee meeting being canceled. The reason wasn't disclosed. I also remember being copied
on an email from one of Copper Creek developers Dave Rech, questioning the delay of the meeting. From
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his perspective as the developer, Bolton and Menk had all the information they needed to finish the study.
See the emails below.
Subject: RE: South Downtown Study: August CBG Meeting Canceled
From: Bryan Nemeth [mailto:bryanne@bolton-menk.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:37 AM
Members of the Citizen and Business Group,
The previously scheduled meeting for August 14th has been canceled.
The meeting will be rescheduled for September.
I will let you know the date and time when determined.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Bryan
Subject: RE: South Downtown Study: August CBG Meeting Canceled
From: "Dave Rech" <drech@coppercreekmn.com>
Date: Fri, August 3, 2012 10:59 am
To: "'Bryan Nemeth'"
Hi Bryan
Why the delay?
Did we get the more detailed drawings published and do you have what you
need from the delineation provided?
Dave Rech
End of mails.
..................................................................................................................................................
From the very beginning our Downtown South Study 12-member group of residents and business
members knew all the intersections that needed to be explored. Nothing changed that we were aware of.
increasing the study area and adding intersections to be explored. We never got a straight forward answer
for the additional $14,100.00 expenditure.
In reality, you would assume the commercial developer should be responsible for the additional funding
for submitting a plan adding complexity to the study. This should not be passed on as a city expense or
fee and unfortunately, it was. But why? There wasn't any differentiation from the original drafts we
received from the beginning we were aware of.
In summary:
I cannot support demolishing homes and disrupting historical neighborhoods for commercial and
economic development. There is plenty of commercial property and space available in and within a few
blocks of downtown. Fill the vacant properties first. Developing additional strip malls and roads hasn't
worked in the past and we should have learned our lesson by now.
Our city leaders need to get a grasp on reality and deal with it. They know the challenges we are facing
today. Below is a list from a COMMENTARY by FRANK BOYLES, JOEL BARKER AND JIM
SCHREIER in the Prior Lake American July 28, 2012. With all these challenges immediately facing us
it's time to moth ball the 2030 Vision plan and focus on the 2012 Survival Plan.
We are running out of time and stepping into an avalanche.
Again thank you for giving me the opportunity to participate in the Citizens and Business Group (CBG). I
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enjoyed the opportunity to discuss local traffic concerns and issues with several committee members,
residents and business owners.
Challenges Prior Lake is facing today.
1. Housing, the city's staple of development, declined by 75 percent.
2. Commercial/ industrial development was virtually nonexistent.
3. Traffic numbers increased, but funding sources for new and reconstructed roadways dwindled.
4. Increased challenges and sensitivity to water quality in the community's 14 lakes.
5. Significant inelasticity in taxpayer willingness to support increased tax levy.
6. Increased pressure on city staff in all areas to "do more with less" while workloads per employee
increased
Prior Lake is primarily challenged by Traffic congestion involving four main roads.
. Increase drinking-water use exceeding aquifer recharge rate.
. Lakes becoming undesirable because of impaired status.
. Commercial market continuing to weaken until 2016.
. City tax revenue continuing to weaken because of stagnant tax base.
. School counts dropping because of slower housing growth.
Two more weren't on the list but are relevant problems;
.Traffic noise pollution.
. Odor from a compost heap.
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APPENDIX E -
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION PRESENTATION
Prepared by: Bolton & Menk, Inc. T42.104814
Prior Lake Downtown South Study Page 47
Pleasant at Arcadia
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PRIOR LAKE DOWNTOWN SOUTH STUDY
APPENDIX F -
PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE SUMMARIES
Prepared by: Bolton & Menk, Inc. T42.104814
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City Initiates Road Network Study
County Highway (CH) 21 splits downtown Prior Lake and makes it hard to maintain a
vibrant, connected downtown. Over the past eight years, many studies have been
completed on the roadways surrounding the Downtown South Area. The Study Area is
bound by Duluth Avenue on the west, Highway 13 on the east and south, and Down-
town Prior Lake on the north as shown on the map located on the reverse side.
Many of these studies have looked into the future capacity and access changes nec-
essary along CH 21 and Highway 13 to accommodate increases in traffic while also
maintaining access to downtown. The changes proposed for the highways will change
how traffic will access the area and will shape how the area will develop and rede-
velop. The access changes proposed on CH 21 and Highway 13 will also alter how
and where traffic can move into the area.
Downtown South Area Study Goals
The goals of this project include
1. Assemble findings and recommendations from the previously completed pro-
jects, plans, and studies into one plan for the area.
2. Develop a plan for a future street network that is consistent with the CH 21 Plan,
provides connectivity and facilities for motorists, pedestrians, and bicyclists be-
tween Downtown and other destinations, provides access to Downtown South
businesses, and provides access for traffic between Duluth Street and the inter-
section of CH 21 and Arcadia Street.
3. Develop a street network for the area that reduces right-of-way acquisition and
way network could be completed are a.) developer driven, b.) City acquisition of
property for sale, and c.) City acquisition of property and potential use of eminent
domain.
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Open House #1 Comments
June 5, 2012: 6-8 PM
Prior Lake City Hall
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OMMENTS UMMARY
Joe Menning: I believe the decision to construct the signalized intersection at Arcadia is
a mistake that will result in traffic problems at Arcadia and Colorado. This will be
especially troublesome for cars wishing to go westbound on CR 21. I believe that is the
County/City would have focused efforts on developing a reasonable solution at Duluth
ssing the following:
Taking out homes to push Arcadia through the Pleasant Avenue Neighborhood
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Funding another major road construction project to entice businesses to our City
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when so many vacancies already exist
When there is little to no commitment on the business end whose benefits
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would justify the cost the taxpayers will inevitably be asked to pay for.
We need to see the whole plan before we can judge properly.
Woody Spitzmueller: Commercial development of the Diggers property should be along
Hwy 13 with access via frontage road. Developers plan is far too expensive and impacts
quality in watershed.
John Diers: Thank you for hosting the meeting last night. This is a controversial subject
with many conflicting views and ideas. However, I believe the session gave everyone a
chance to picture some of the alternatives. All of us need to approach this with an open
mind, but come, as well, with a critical attitude. I spoke with Gina Mitchell, of Bolton &
Menk, last night and promised I would send her my con
Current Numbers: Up to date traffic data is important. One of my concerns, as you
Highway 21 bypass was built on data and
projections from 2005. downturn since the
Great Depression and have yet to make a recovery. Economists and the Office of the
State Demographer published studies that show the suburban boom of the past 25
years is coming to an end, and that people, particularly educated, affluent individuals,
are moving back to cities in large numbers. Young upwardly mobile types value the
amenities that an urban setting can provide. There are, also, rising energy costs. For the
same reasons, older people want to shed larger homes and get closer to urban services.
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In a report published last year the Office of the State Demographer found that in the
next 10 years more people in Minnesota will turn 65 than at any time in our history and
there will be as many, if not more, people over 65 than kids in our elementary schools.
over, and policy
makers will have to adjust to a changed economy. The strategies of the 80s and 90s no
longer apply
Now to some specifics:
Decisions and projections should be based on a current traffic study of all vehicles
and vehicle types using highway Highway 21 and adjoining streets and highways in,
and passing through, Prior Lake. This should include origin and destination data. We
need solid baseline numbers. Scott County may, already, have some of this.
plan may be a
proposals for improving pedestrian-bike
access. Also important are quality of life and environmental issues (noise). Building a
link between Cleary and Prior Lakes and
the Minnesota River is, in my view, a complete nonstarter.
Costs. All alternatives should come with cost projections
I noticed that turn counts had been made at the intersection of Duluth and Pleasant.
Unfortunately, the counts were made just a short time ago in the midst of the
Highway 21-Arcadia rec
construction is complete, and traffic returns to a normal pattern. Drivers on
eastbound Highway 21 have been exiting at West and at Duluth and using Pleasant-
Main to bypass the traffic backups. Similarly, drivers on Northbound Duluth have
been turning on Pleasant and using Pleasant and Main to connect with eastbound
21 rather than turning on Duluth and Highway 21. Again, the problem is the traffic
backup and the desire to avoid congestion.
Mayoral Response to John Diers:
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I think you make a number of very good points that we
need to consider. There is one statement that you make that deserves clarification. You state
that traffic projections were based on projections from 2005. In fact, the traffic projects are
based on
full build out. Now, it is true we are growing at a slower rate so what that means is that
complete build out will occur much later. You might even argue that it will never occur. But, the
projected traffic data is based on build out not a rate of growth from the boom years. You know
it is very important for me to ensure Council, staff, and residents always represent "facts"
properly. From these we must all attempt to make the informed and good decisions for the
growth of our fine city.
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The proximity of the downtown area to County Highway (CH) 21 and Highway (Hwy) 13
creates the need for a well-planned network of City streets and trails to efficiently move
vehicle and pedestrian traffic in and through the downtown area. Over the past eight years,
there have been numerous studies that focused on the needs of the arterial roadways
surrounding the Downtown South Area with limited review of the needs and pattern of the
local City network of streets within that area.
The City, in cooperation with the Minnesota Department of Transportation and Scott County,
has undertaken a study of the roadway network in the Downtown South Area. The study
area is defined as the area bound by Duluth Avenue on the West, Hwy 13 on the east and
south, and Downtown Prior Lake to the north. The previous studies looked into mobility and
access spacing needs of the arterial roadways to safely and efficiently accommodate traf-
fic. These previously adopted plans modify how traffic accesses the Downtown area. This
study considers the local internal street network alternatives for moving traffic and ability to
implement any changes.
Through the study, there have been a number of alternatives developed and evaluated. A
technical committee and a citizen/business group committee have provided input on the
development of alternatives. The study is now at a point where a preferred alternative is
ready for public comment. Public comments will be used by the City to approve a plan that
will guide future decisions regarding the local street system in the South Downtown area.
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The goals of this project include
about the alternatives studied, criteria used to
1. Assemble findings and recom-
compare the alternatives, and the recommended
mendations from the previously
alternative (9C - see reverse side).
completed projects, plans, and
Two 15 minute presentations will be provided at
studies into one plan for the area.
6:15 and 7:15 to share background information
2. Develop a plan for a future street
and how Concept 9C compares with other con-
network that is consistent with
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the CH 21 Plan, provides connec-
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(4646 Dakota St. SE)
throughout the study.
intersection of CH 21 and Arcadia
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Time: 6 - 8 PM
Street.
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Presentations: 6:15 & 7:15
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have questions or
area that reduces right-of-way
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More direct
access to down-
town businesses
Hwy 13/Pleasant
access is consis-
tent with 21 Plan
Connects Arcadia/
21 to Duluth/13
(signals)
Reduces traffic on
Duluth near the
school & church
Adds pedestrian &
bicycle connec-
tions to Downtown
Can be imple-
mented incremen-
tally over time
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handle future
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M E M O R A N D U M
Date:
November 27, 2012
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Includes comments received through December 4, 2012
To:City of Prior Lake
From:
Technical Advisory Committee (TAC): Downtown South Study
Subject:
Downtown South Study
Draft Community Comments to Alternatives and Recommended Alternative 9C
Prior Lake, MN
A total of 55 people signed in for the Open House. A total of 18 people provided comments related to the
material presented at the Open House on November 27, 2012. The comments and responses provided will
be forwarded to the City Council for consideration when looking to approve the study and make a final
recommendation on a preferred/approved option on December 10, 2012. The TAC recommended
Alternative 9C but the City Council will make the final decision on the approved alternative. The
approved alternative may be different than the recommended alternative and/or may include edits. The
comments received are useful not only for this project but brought forth additional community concerns
to the City.
The recommended option is labeled as Option 9C. 9C includes a ¾ access at the intersection of Hwy 13
and Pleasant Street and includes a right-in/right-out at the intersection of Hwy 13/Anna Trail and a ¾
access at Hwy 13/Franklin Trail. The option was developed to keep the ¾ access at Pleasant Street, as that
was a significant concern for the community and is consistent with previous discussions on access, with
the future changes at CH 21 and Main Avenue. MnDOT has stated that only one ¾ access will be
allowed between Duluth and CH 21 on Hwy 13. Additional discussions with MnDOT led to the creation
of concept 9C with a northbound ¾ access at Pleasant and a southbound ¾ access at Franklin Trail. As
Anna Trail is currently a right-in/right-out, option 9C maintains the existing access configuration west of
Hwy 13. The recommended option can be implemented in stages as determined by the City.
Option 9C sets a future roadway south of Arcadia Avenue through the wetland and connecting to Duluth
Avenue at Anna Trail. It connects through future development areas so that any potential development in
the area knows the future plans and the development can be accommodated consistent with the plan for
the roadways. Option 9C provides a direct connection between Duluth Avenue and Arcadia Avenue and
also connects the signals at Hwy 13 and at CH 21.
Open House Comments:
The following are the comments submitted to the City for consideration of the Downtown South roadway
network alternatives. Each comment was separated out and multiple comments may be attributable to one
person. Responses are provided for specific comments.
1.There is a bullet point that adds pedestrian and bicycle trail/sidewalk. Where is it?
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Response: All of the options show additional sidewalk and trail adjacent to the new roadway on
the concept drawings. The trail is on the west side (brown) while a sidewalk is on the east side
(pink).
2.Moving forward to help make Prior Lake friendly to pedestrians and bicycles. Especially young
kids I see riding bikes where there are no crosswalks or sidewalks.
Response: Sidewalks are provided on most city streets within the South Downtown area. The City
has looked and will continue to look at adding sidewalks adjacent to City streets as approved by
local residents and in recognition of costs. By state law, all intersections are considered to be
crosswalks, unless prohibited by signage, even if no crosswalk is painted. Basically, pedestrians
have right-of-way over all other modes. While this is the law, it is always in the best interest of
the pedestrian to determine the appropriate time to make a crossing and ensure drivers see them.
Crosswalks are located as needed and determined by the City. Crosswalks do not provide a
pedestrian any additional protection from an oncoming vehicle as compared to an unmarked
crossing.
3.The junction of Anna Trail/Duluth Avenue/Arcadia Avenue is messy.
Response: The recommended option attempts to eliminate the skew with intersections that are at
right angles. Skewed intersections have been shown to be safety issues with higher crash rates.
The intersection could be modified to be two t-intersections or modified to include a roundabout.
The option can be modified to include options at the Anna Trail/Duluth Avenue/Arcadia Avenue
intersection location so that when it is being considered for construction there are options that can
be further considered if desired by the Council.
4.With the opening of Arcadia you have caused a safety hazard at Premiere Dance Academy with
all the dancers (young) crossing Colorado between 3 PM and 9 PM, 5 days a week. You first need
to address the lighting and crossing on road for people going to Dance Studio, T-shirts & More,
and Integra as it is more traveled now. Colorado by the Dance Studio, Integra needs to be
addressed NOW!!!
Response: The City will continue to work with Premiere Dance Academy to evaluate options
along Colorado Street. With the opening of Arcadia Avenue it is recognized that patrons of
Premiere Dance Academy can access Colorado Street from Arcadia Avenue, whereas it appears
that previously patrons were split between Main and Duluth. This has essentially changed the
pattern of traffic where fewer patrons are dropping off students on the north side of Colorado and
are now dropping them off on the south side of Colorado. The City will work with Premiere
Dance Academy to direct parents and patrons to drop off and pick up students on the north side of
Colorado Street as this is a safer option. Currently Colorado can be accessed off of Main. When
the median is closed, patrons should be directed to access Colorado from Main off of CH 21
(eastbound CH 21 traffic) or off of the ¾ access at Pleasant Street (southbound and northbound
Hwy 13 and westbound CH 21 traffic). Lighting can be added to Colorado as needed and
approved by the City.
5.Need to make sure ¾ access at Pleasant stays as you need to remember your businesses in South
Downtown. Not allow ¾ to move to Anna Trail/Franklin and can’t let Developer dictate the
roadway and business area.
Response: The recommended option includes the ¾ access at Hwy 13/Pleasant Street. The
alternative sets up a roadway plan that any Developer will have to conform to.
6.I support plan 9C. It looks like the group spent a lot of time looking at the many plans and came
up with a good choice.
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7.We are buying this property and you are cutting off our access to Hwy 13. No one will rent our
property. Maybe the City can buy it from us.
Response: Anna Trail will remain with direct access to Hwy 13 until the roadway is developed
north of Anna Trail. It was the intention of the option to eliminate the skew and provide a more
direct connection between Arcadia and Hwy 13 at a mid-point between CH 21 and Duluth. With
the recommended option, the businesses can be accessed from the west but not Hwy 13 directly.
The option can be altered to eliminate the new roadway west of Hwy 13 across from Franklin
Trail and maintain the existing access at Anna Trail if desired by the Council.
8.Closure of Anna Trail on south end. We use entrance when we bring 35’ travel trailer home. We
can only come in that way to park it in our side yard. How will plows turn around? Not in a
driveway. If you closed it and put a cul-de-sac in I could live with that. Close the entrance on the
east side of Hwy 13 and Duluth that goes into the Village Mall. That is your big traffic flow
problem.
Response: The red X on the south end of Anna Trail was meant to show an access that more acts
like a driveway and would be available for use by emergency vehicles, maintenance vehicles,
buses, and local residents. The intention was to close it off to most traffic if possible to eliminate
the conflict that occurs for the northbound left trying to turn in when there is a backup of vehicles
waiting for the signal at Hwy 13. The drawing can be modified to show the access as a driveway
or leave the access but install a median on Duluth to restrict the left turn movement if desired by
the Council.
Considerations for the east side of Duluth at Hwy 13 are included with the recommended option.
9.I am the owner and I strongly object to the portion of Concept 9C that is west
of Hwy 13 across from Franklin Trail. The new road has no purpose other than providing access
to the property north of the road and taking away access to my property. The new road would
require development and maintenance of two roads at taxpayer expense in order to enhance the
developers property over my property.
Response: Anna Trail will remain with direct access to Hwy 13 until the roadway is developed
north of Anna Trail. It was the intention of the option to eliminate the skew and provide a more
direct connection between Arcadia and Hwy 13 at a mid-point between CH 21 and Duluth. With
the recommended option, the businesses can be accessed from the west but not Hwy 13 directly.
The option can be altered to eliminate the new roadway west of Hwy 13 across from Franklin
Trail and maintain the existing access at Anna Trail if desired by the Council.
10.As a to be new owner no one on Anna Trail heard from anyone on this. Please let me know what
happened.
Response: No decision has been made by the Council on a recommended alternative. An Open
House was held in June and newsletters were mailed to residents and businesses in the area at that
time. As information was being developed it was added to the study website which is linked from
the City of Prior Lake homepage. The Open House was advertised in the local paper and on the
City website. The Council will take the recommendations from the TAC and the comments from
members of the community into consideration when deciding on an approved alternative. Council
is scheduled to make a decision on the approved alternative on December 10, 2012.
11.Who is paying for all of this?
Response: The cost share for the proposed improvements has not been determined at this time.
The improvements on CH 21 are likely to be a cost share between the City and Scott County
while the improvements on Hwy 13 are likely to be a cost share between the City and MnDOT.
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The City is looking into how the roadway improvements could be implemented on the City
streets but are likely to be City cost or a City/Developer cost share. The actual implementation
and cost shares will be determined by subsequent Councils as projects are implemented. The
approved option does not indicate that it will be built at all, but sets up a plan for when there is
interest in building certain segments of it by a Developer or by a subsequent council, there is a
plan in place of where it will be.
12.Would love to see all the comments posted on-line to make more comments on them.
Response: The comments will be posted on the project website.
13.I am for Option 9C, for many reasons.
14.Change light problems at Duluth/13. Traffic backs up at my property 20-30 cars/buses. Put
interest in improving flow: Arcadia east to 13, and 13 south past Duluth Ave.
Response: The recommended option includes recommended improvements at Hwy 13/Duluth
Avenue. MnDOT has a signal replacement project scheduled for 2015/2016. The two
improvements together, along with improved signal timings, should help to alleviate some of the
concerns with backups and traffic issues.
15.Some thought included a blockage on Duluth (Ex at Priorwood) which would force people to use
main roads.
Response: Duluth Avenue serves the local area and residents. A healthy roadway network has
multiple parallel routes to not only split traffic but allow for alternate routes when one route is
blocked by an incident. While Duluth Avenue does serve some “cut-through” traffic that are not
local residents to Duluth Avenue, it does serve the community. Duluth Avenue is used to access
St. Michaels School and Church, it is used by garbage haulers, emergency services, the post
office, and other services of the community. Cutting off the connection and forcing all people to
use Hwy 13 would force more traffic onto an already congested corridor. Additionally, if there is
ever a major incident on Hwy 13, Duluth Avenue or a new Arcadia can serve as a detour route for
local residents and emergency vehicles.
16.I wonder what the real purpose is down the road in time. Money for land developers?
Response: The purpose of the study was to develop a future roadway network plan for the
Downtown south area that works with the new Arcadia Avenue connection to CH 21. All
property owners along a new corridor will be impacted. A preliminary funding table has been
created, but will be determined when the roadway is being considered for implementation by
future Councils.
17.9C is so close to existing roads.
Response: The recommended option provides a new north-south roadway to alleviate/move
traffic from Duluth to Arcadia. A typical grid network has roadways spaced every one to two
blocks.
18.Cut off Duluth Ave between Anna Trail and Priorwood Street. Benefits:
a.Cuts out 70% of traffic that only uses it for a cut-through.
b.Safety
c.Improves property value on Duluth, both sides
Response: Duluth Avenue serves the local area and residents. A healthy roadway network has
multiple parallel routes to not only split traffic but allow for alternate routes when one route is
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blocked by an incident. While Duluth Avenue does serve some “cut-through” traffic that are not
local residents to Duluth Avenue, it does serve the community. Duluth Avenue is used to access
St. Michaels School and Church, it is used by garbage haulers, emergency services, the post
office, and other services of the community. Cutting off the connection and forcing all people to
use Hwy 13 would force more traffic onto an already congested corridor. Additionally, if there is
ever a major incident on Hwy 13, Duluth Avenue or a new Arcadia can serve as a detour route for
local residents and emergency vehicles.
19.What’s the cost? You don’t pinpoint any for sure cost.
Response: Construction cost estimates were provided within the evaluation matrices for all of the
options. Cost estimates have been updated to include Engineering Costs. The City is also working
through the approximate cost share.
20.With every plan you say it may happen. It may not with regard to how far is project going/will I
be affected?
Response: Future City Councils will make a decision for when certain aspects of the plan will be
implemented. There is currently an agreement for some of the improvements on CH 21 and Hwy
13 with Scott County and MnDOT. A specific schedule is being determined at this time.
21.Take care of Hwy 13 and Duluth before anything! There is room/work with MnDOT and do
together. 13 and 21 turn lanes?
Response: The recommended option includes recommended improvements at Hwy 13/Duluth
Avenue. MnDOT has a signal replacement project scheduled for 2015/2016. The two
improvements together, along with improved signal timings, should help to alleviate some of the
concerns with backups and traffic issues.
MnDOT, Scott County, and the City have been in discussions to improve the intersection of Hwy
13/CH 21 with more lanes and a new traffic signal. No formal agreement, cost share, or schedule
has been completed at this time.
22.Interesting. I’m for option 9C. Good job.
23.Instead of medians on 13, widen 13 with left and right turns.
Response: Scott County, MnDOT, and the City of Prior Lake all endorsed a plan (County
Highway 21 Corridor Study) in 2006 that includes the medians on CH 21 at Duluth and Main. It
also included the intersection of Arcadia at CH 21 as a future signalized intersection and a ¾
access at a realigned Pleasant Street.
MnDOT, Scott County, and the City have been in discussions to improve the intersection of Hwy
13/CH 21 with more lanes and a new traffic signal. No formal agreement, cost share, or schedule
has been completed at this time.
24.The “New” Arcadia road is not “safe” for parking on Pleasant or for pedestrians to Church and
Funeral Home.
Response: The recommended option is expected to reduce traffic on Duluth Avenue and Pleasant
Street in front of the Church and Funeral Home making them both “safer” roadways to cross.
Traffic reduction is expected to be significant in the AM peak hour but less significant in the PM
peak hour since the only way to turn left from the south downtown area to west on CH 21 will be
to use Arcadia in the future as all other intersections in the area with CH 21 will have a median.
25.Omit Arcadia thru wetlands. Just open up Anna Trail/Franklin Trail access.
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Response: The open intersection of Franklin Trail at Hwy 13 has a long history of safety issues,
including a fatal incident this past summer. MnDOT and the City have shown concern for the
access as it is now. The recommended option reduces the access to eliminate the movements of
high concern. Opening up Anna Trail across the Franklin Trail at Hwy 13 will likely result in
more crashes and would be taking a step back in safety to when it was open across Hwy 13.
26.Red Xs more dead end roads = no, not safe in and out to find homes or sell them.
Response: Some of the dead-ends in the recommended option can be removed if desired by the
Council.
27.If the Prior Lake Council approves the 9C plan from the study or any other plan at their
December Meeting, does that mean that they (the council) has full control over when and how the
plan will be implemented without any further input from the public. Or stated another way, if a
plan is approved by the council, what is the next step and will it include further public review?
Response: Future Councils will have full control over when and how the plan will be
implemented. Public input will be taken when a future council decides to implement the plan or
portions of the plan. The plan can be modified in the future as needed but sets up a framework for
what the City wants through the area. Specifics such as intersection configurations or exact
roadway alignment can be changed as directed by the Council and as needed based on future
considerations including grades, wetland impacts, etc. Having a plan does not indicate that the
plan has to be implemented at all if it is desired by a future Council.
28.The ¾ access to Pleasant for entry into south downtown is the most important item.
Response: The recommended option includes the ¾ access at a realigned Pleasant Street. This
will be constructed either at the same time as or before the median closure at Main/CH 21 as
agreed to by the City and Scott County.
29.Extending Arcadia south to Pleasant is second.
Response: The recommended option includes the Arcadia extension to Pleasant Street.
30.Extending Arcadia via 9C is third.
31.The crosswalk on Main/21 will be important as well as lowering the speed limit across Main
Response: The all-way stop currently at CH 21 and Main has a pedestrian crossing in which
vehicles are required to stop. It is recognized that any at-grade pedestrian crossing of a high
volume multi-lane highway is a hazard for pedestrians. The City has and will continue to evaluate
options for a grade separated crossing opportunity on CH 21.
The speed limit for all roadways within the state is determined by state statute or by MnDOT
according to state statute. When the corridor is reconstructed there may be an opportunity for
MnDOT to reevaluate the speed limit through town on CH 21 and Hwy 13 to determine to most
appropriate speed limit for the roadway.
32.It appears that the ¾ access on Pleasant is a must for the downtown south to keep traffic in and
out of this part of town. We still must look at the pedestrian crossing on Main Ave!
Response: The recommended option includes the ¾ access at a realigned Pleasant Street. The all-
way stop currently at CH 21 and Main has a pedestrian crossing in which vehicles are required to
stop. It is recognized that any at-grade pedestrian crossing of a high volume multi-lane highway is
a hazard for pedestrians. The City has and will continue to evaluate options for a grade separated
crossing opportunity on CH 21.
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33.The connection between Duluth, Anna Trail and Arcadia has become quite convoluted. Might
this confluence of roadways be better served by a round-about?
Response: The recommended option attempts to eliminate the skew with intersections that are at
right angles. Skewed intersections have been shown to be safety issues with higher crash rates.
The intersection could be modified to be two t-intersections or modified to include a roundabout.
The option can be modified to include options at the Anna Trail/Duluth Avenue/Arcadia Avenue
intersection location so that when it is being considered for construction there are options that can
be further considered if desired by the Council.
34.Duluth Avenue currently serves as a major connection between County 21 and Highway 13. If
Arcadia is to become the new North/South connection, something must be done to discourage
traffic from using Duluth as the way to move traffic North/South. I would recommend a full
closure of Duluth at County 21 or at a point just South of St. Michaels church as part of this
project.
Response: Duluth Avenue serves the local area and residents. A healthy roadway network has
multiple parallel routes to not only split traffic but allow for alternate routes when one route is
blocked by an incident. While Duluth Avenue does serve some “cut-through” traffic that are not
local residents to Duluth Avenue, it does serve the community. Duluth Avenue is used to access
St. Michaels School and Church, it is used by garbage haulers, emergency services, the post
office, and other services of the community.
35.The speeds currently seen on Duluth are escalating and unreasonable. Even though current city
codes call for a speed of 30 MPH on unmarked streets, the average observed traffic speed on
Duluth exceeds this. 30 MPH signs need to be posted and enforced increased. A double yellow
line down the middle of the road does not give traffic permission to speed through a residential
neighborhood.
Response: The speed issues on Duluth Avenue are recognized by the City. As you state, the city
codes, in addition to state statute, dictate a speed limit of 30 mph on city streets. Local law
enforcement will continue to monitor but recognizes that traffic tends to speed when law
enforcement is not present.
36.An incremental plan does not accomplish the goals and is disruptive to the neighborhood. In
order to be most effective, the entire design should be implemented as quickly as possible in one
large project. This is most likely more cost effective in the long run as costs tend to increase the
longer a project is dragged out.
Response: Due to financial concerns and the plan for a developer to pick up some of the cost, the
plan is to do the project incrementally.
37.There is currently a business (Honest 1 Auto Care) seeking a Variance to place a business on
Duluth Ave. just off of Highway 13 between the current Subway and Prior Lake State Bank. This
appears to be in direct conflict with the Downtown South Study. If traffic is such a concern
around the intersection of Duluth and Highway 13, why are leaders pursing a business centered
around autos within one property of this intersection. At this same time, the Downtown South
Study is recommending the closure of the Anna Trail access in this same area. This makes no
sense that existing residential homeowners are being cut off and an auto-centered business is
being added on.
Response: The red X on the south end of Anna Trail was meant to show an access that more acts
like a driveway and would be available for use by emergency vehicles, maintenance vehicles,
buses, and local residents. The intention was to close it off to most traffic if possible to eliminate
the conflict that occurs for the northbound left trying to turn in when there is a backup of vehicles
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waiting for the signal at Hwy 13. The drawing can be modified to show the access as a driveway
or leave the access but install a median on Duluth to restrict left turn movements if desired by the
Council.
The recommended concept maintains the existing accesses on the east side of Duluth Avenue
north of Hwy 13. Council and City staff will be made aware of the considerations and potential
conflicts.
38.The widening of County 21 to support the new Arcadia avenue project has made left turns from
both Duluth and Arcadia to Country 21 more difficult. This is due to the increased amount of
roadway that must be crossed and poor visibility at Arcadia due to new signage and utilities
placement. The median at Duluth and the installation of a light at Arcadia should be completed
as soon as possible to rectify this situation and make these intersections safer.
Response: The City is currently working with Scott County and MnDOT to determine a schedule
for the improvements.
Council Considerations for an Approved Concept
The following is a list of possible changes to the recommended concept for consideration by the Council
based on comments received.
1.Modify the intersection configuration at Duluth/Arcadia/Anna Trail to one of the following or
provide a list of options on the approved concept.
a.Keep as shown on the concept,
b.Develop as two separate t-intersections, Duluth to Arcadia and Anna to Arcadia, or
c.Develop as a roundabout.
2.
Eliminate the new roadway west of Hwy 13 across from Franklin Trail that connects Hwy 13 to
Arcadia Avenue and keep the existing access of Hwy 13 at Anna Trail where it is now.
3.
Remove the red X at the south end of Anna Trail just north of Hwy 13 at Duluth Avenue and:
a.
Show as a driveway access or
b.
Leave the access but install a median on Duluth to restrict left turn movements
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