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PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
TUESDAY, January 22, 2013
1. Call to Order:
Chairman Phelan called the January 22, 2013 Planning Commission meeting to order at 6:00
p.m. Those present were Commissioners Blahnik, Phelan, Hite, Spieler, Community and
Economic Development Director Dan Rogness, City Engineer Larry Poppler and Planner Jeff
Matzke
2. Approval of Agenda:
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY SPIELER TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 22, 2013
MEETING AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Hite, Phelan, and Spieler. The Motion carried.
3. Consider Approval of January 7, 2013 Meeting Minutes:
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY HITE TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 7, 2012
MEETING MINUTES.
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Hite, Phelan, and Spieler. The Motion carried.
4. Public Hearings:
A. EP# 12-129 5290 Candy Cove Trail Variance. Highmark Builders is requesting a
Variance from the minimum lakeshore setback and the Bluff Impact Zone setback on Lower
Prior Lake in the R-1 (Low Density Residential) Zoning District. The subject property is located
on Candy Cove Point southwest of Candy Cove Bay off of Candy Cove Trail.
Planner Matzke
presented that Highmark Builders, on behalf of the owner, is requesting
variances from the minimum lake setback and minimum bluff setback on a property located at
5290 Candy Cove Trail. The property is located along the eastern shores of Lower Prior Lake,
west of Trunk Highway 13. A single family home exists currently on the property. The
variances that are requested include a 5.9 foot variance from the required minimum 50 foot
structure setback from the Ordinary High Water (OHW) elevation of Prior Lake using the
average lake setbacks of adjacent properties, and an 18.4 foot variance from the required 25
foot bluff setback.
Commissioner Questions:
Spieler
asked about concerns with erosion from the back of the house going into the lake?
Engineer Poppler
responded that water should not be directed in concentrated flow paths and
should be dispersed over a larger area. Staff has not looked at the specifics of this yet.
Spieler
asked if there could be landscaping requirements that block water flow from the lake?
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Engineer Poppler
responded that staff can look at that at the building permit time.
Hite
asked about the new impervious surfaces with the home and how this could be affected if
a pool is added?
Planner Matzke
responded that the applicant has about 27 percent impervious coverage with
just the proposed house, garage and driveway. They have about 900 square feet they could
add and still be under the maximum 30 percent impervious surface requirement.
Blahnik
asked whether the purpose of the 25 foot bluff setback is to keep runoff from the lake
or to keep the house from possibly sliding into the lake?
Planner Matzke
responded there are multiple reasons for the setback; erosion control and
structural safety of the home are the primary reasons. Also, the DNR has set the 25 foot
standard to keep the aesthetics of lake shore property natural and to protect the native
vegetation and natural slopes.
Phelan
asked for clarification as to whether the house is being torn down completely?
Planner Matzke
responded in the affirmative.
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY SPIELER TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
6:19 PM.
VOTE: Ayes, Phelan, Blahnik, Spieler, and Hite
John Anderson, Highmark Builders
stated that removing the existing house allowed them to
move the new home further back from the shoreline. They conducted geotechnical reports
and are aware of the situation on the site. The garage needed to be pushed back to allow for
an easement around the lift station on the property. They are granting the city a 20 foot
easement around the lift station and over the service lines.
Hite
asked whether they will ensure that all drainage is directed and controlled on the
applicant’s property?
Applicant Anderson
responded that they plan on designing it so that all stormwater and run
off will be handled on site. Those plans will be submitted with the building permit.
Lauren Jones (5282 Candy Cove Trail)
stated support for the variance. He is looking
forward to getting new neighbors and seeing the finished product.
Ronald Lenling (5298 Candy Cove Trail)
stated concerns about the height and size of the
proposed house. He did not want to see the character of the neighborhood change too
drastically.
Matthew Bearden (Southview Design)
stated that he is in the process of revising plans and
designing to treat water on site, minimize runoff and limit the amount of excess water going
back into the lake.
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MOTION BY PHELAN SECCOND BY HITE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:22 PM.
VOTE: Ayes, Phelan, Blahnik, Hite, and Spieler.
Commissioner Comments:
Spieler
asked whether the driveway will be replaced as part of the project?
Planner Matzke
responded that driveways are usually replaced with this type of project. He
believes the applicant stated their intent to replace the driveway.
Spieler
asked whether the driveway is used by other residents to access their homes and
whether it is the owner’s responsibility to maintain and allow access to the other residents?
Planner Matzke
responded that the builder will work with the other homeowners, letting them
know when they are going to do certain parts of the project that may block access.
Spieler
asked if there are any city requirements applicable to driveway access?
Planner Matzke
responded that there are easements across the driveway, so it would be
between the property owners and not the city.
Spieler
stated support for the project; his main concern is that the builders must work with the
neighbors and make sure the erosion control is always in place.
Hite
stated support for the variance; practical difficulties do exist with the current shape and
configuration of the lot. It is in compliance with the Comprehensive Plan; designing the project
accommodates the utilities and easements on the lot.
Blahnik
asked whether the existing house is currently 38 feet from the lake and the proposed
house will be 44 feet from the lake?
Planner Matzke
responded affirmatively. They are moving the home back to 50 feet. The
averages of setbacks in the ordinance would allow 55 feet.
Blahnik
asked whether other homes in the area have similar setbacks.
Planner Matzke
responded that it varies some but for the most part they are similar to the
proposed house.
Blahnik
stated support for the project. There are practical difficulties and the structure that is
being proposed is of reasonable size for the lot. He does sympathize with the neighbor with
the increased height and decreased view.
Phelan
asked how is “changing the character of a neighborhood” defined?
Planner Matzke
responded in regards to changing the character of the neighborhood, staff
looks in relation to the type of variance request. Staff looks to see that the variance request
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will allow the proposed home to be reasonable with the other homes in the area. For example,
when Commissioner Blahnik asked earlier about the other setbacks of the neighborhood, they
are similar to what is being proposed.
Phelan
commented on the impervious surface and not showing the pool on the plan. He wants
to make sure that the reason for the pool to be left off is not to limit the number of variances
being applied for at one time. He was glad to hear that the builder stated that if the pool is to
go in it will be under the impervious surface requirements. He does not want the applicant to
come back in this summer asking for an impervious surface variance. He stated his concern
about the home being close to the bluff. He does not like setting the house so close to the bluff
but if engineering and soil reports state that it will support it then he won’t disagree.
Hite
stated she wants to reiterate Chairman Phelan’s comment about the impervious surface,
and if a variance request is presented for that, it will be strictly reviewed.
A MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY HITE TO APPROVE A 5.9 FOOT VARIANCE
FROM THE 50 FOOT REQUIRED STRUCTURE SETBACK FROM THE O.H.W. OF PRIOR
LAKE AND 18.4 FOOT VARIANCE FROM THE 25 FOOT REQUIRED BLUFF SETBACK.
VOTE: Ayes, Phelan, Blahnik, Hite, and Spieler.
5. Old Business:
None
6. New Business:
A. EP# 13-103 PUD Concept Plan. K. Hovnanian Homes is requesting a review of a
proposed Planned Unit Development concept plan within 45 acres located west of County
Road 18 and south of County Road 42, on the northwest shore of Lower Prior Lake. The
subject property is currently zoned R-1 (Low Density Residential) and guided R-LD (Urban
Low Density).
Planner Matzke
presented the purpose of this agenda item is to share the concept for a Low
Density single family residential Planned Unit Development (PUD) on a 45-acre site and to
provide the Commissioner’s with an opportunity to provide in-formal, non-binding feedback on
the concept to the applicant.The city’s zoning ordinance allows applicants to review their
concept plans with the Planning Commission to help direct them in the preparation of their land
use applications.
Applicant Kevin Clark (K. Hovnanian Homes)
presented the goals and objectives of
proposed PUD Development. He touched on the unique topography and geometry of the
current parcel. Clark described how there plan will fit on the site.
Phelan
asked about the proposed lot sizes; are they smaller than city standards?
Planner Matzke
responded they are proposing 90 foot wide and 15,000 square feet lots on the
lakeshore that does meet our minimum lot size. For the non-lake lots, they are proposing 75
foot wide and 10,000 square foot lots and our minimum is 86 feet wide and 12,000 square feet.
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Phelan
stated his concern that they are proposing less than the minimum standards. Although
he understands it is a numbers game with margins, he would rather see the lots correctly sized
to city current standards.
Phelan
asked the applicant about their plans for grading the site; they had mentioned that the
topography is interesting and has a lot of unique features.
Applicant Clark
responded it depends on how they can engineer the roads and lots on the
parcel. They would try to preserve the natural features by custom grading but it will be difficult.
Spieler
asked how long will the construction take of this site?
Applicant Clark
responded that they are planning on developing it in phases. The sales of
the phases will determine how quickly they are able to move through the project.
Spieler
asked about accessing the site with construction equipment without a major access off
of County Road 42?
Applicant Clark
responded Carriage Hills Parkway is a collector road and is designed for
heavier traffic use. They would be using and would be that best way to access the site.
Spieler
asked for further explanation on the type of houses.
Applicant Clark
responded that these homes would have a minimum of 60 x 60 foot building
pad; they are still looking into the architectural design on the homes. Square footage is
between 2,000 and 3,000. Price range will be around $300,000 for 2-story homes with 3-car
garages.
Spieler
asked what lake access will be for the three homes on the lake, and the rest of the
development will not have lake access?
Hite
asked how many different owners are they working with on the east parcel?
Applicant Clark
responded there are three owners.
Hite
asked is there any discussion with the owners on the west parcel?
Applicant Clark
responded no.
Hite
asked if grading of the site will require import or export of soils on the site?
Applicant Clark
responded that they have not gone to that extent to know the details of
grading.
Hite
asked whether there are only two stormwater ponds being proposed?
Applicant Clark
responded that they will have more detail on that as they get into to project.
They did not want to spend a lot of time engineering a certain way only to have to change it.
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Hite
asked whether the current wetland will be protected or changed?
Applicant Clark
responded that they are not proposing any impact to the wetland. The area
around the wetland is very steep and heavily treed, it would be more beneficial from an
ecological and marketable standpoint to not put any trail or amenities around the wetland and
keep those to the outside of the development.
Hite
asked whether Carriage Hills will be constructed all the way through both parcels?
Applicant Clark
responded no; it will be constructed to the west side of the east parcel.
Hite
stated that it is disappointing to see that three proposed riparian lots meet the current lot
standards, but that the non-riparian lots do not meet the current lot dimensions.
Blahnik
stated he would like to see the starting point of the lot sizes meet the current
standards. Overall the concept plan looks good.
Blahnik
asked whether they are only developing the east parcel and whether that is why
Carriage Hills cannot go all the way through?
Applicant Clark
responded yes; they will bring it through the east parcel but end it on the
western boundary.
Blahnik
asked about the number of significant trees on the site?
Applicant Clark
responded yes; there is a significant amount.
Blahnik
stated do your best to preserve the trees.
Blahnik
asked about the estimated start date?
Applicant Clark
responded that it depends on the feedback they get from the planning
commission and city council. If it is encouraging, then they could pursue a preliminary plat. To
gather the necessary material, it takes about three weeks; they would need to get on a
possible March meeting and hopefully get going early to mid-May.
Blahnik
stated overall, the plan looks good, but it would be nice to see the lots meet our
current standards.
Phelan
asked about ghost platting the west half parcel, is their intention to eventually enter
into an agreement with those owners?
Applicant Clark
responded no; they ghost platted on the recommendation of staff.
Phelan
asked about whether Meadowlawn Trail is a winter access road; what will become of
that road?
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Planner Matzke
responded it will more than likely be a trail. The applicant stated that access
to the properties will be off of Carriage Hills Parkway.
Phelan
stated if this were to move forward, he would ask the applicant to consider the
neighboring property and be respectful when developing the east parcel.
Phelan
asked with the phasing of the project would they start on the lake side and work
toward County Road 42?
Applicant Clark
responded the lake lots in themselves are a unique situation. The plan is to
put up models north of Carriage Hills and sell both on the south side and north side of Carriage
Hills.
Phelan
stated the reason he asked that is it will preserve the natural setting and buffer from 42
and create less of a disturbance to neighbors until necessary.
Phelan
stated on the north side of the wetland it looks like building will be close; he wants to
caution about building too close to the wetland.
Applicant Clark
responded that they did a complete delineation this fall, the approval process
has been completed and validated. The lines on the map take into account the delineated
edge along with the buffer.
Phelan
stated it is great to have an eager developer in talking about development in Prior
Lake, it is good for the economy and the city. He does echo fellow commissioner concerns
about lot size dimensions on the development.
Spieler
stated an idea about possibly redesign of one cul-de-sac to no back up to Carriage
Hills since it is a collector road.
Applicant Clark
responded that they first thought that frontage would be allowed on Carriage
Hills, since it is not, they had to completely redesign how originally the development would be
laid out.
Hite
asked who owns the gravel road today?
Applicant Clark
responded it is a joint easement that allows it to be vacated when another
access is brought in.
Phelan
stated once closer to preliminary plat, he would like to see Mr. Poppler’s comments
addressed and the lot dimensions closer to the current standards.
7. Announcements and Correspondence:
A: Recent City Council Discussions/decisions
Director Rogness
presented the vacation on Spring Lake was approved by Council. He
stated that Monique Morton was the appointed Council Member as the Planning Commission
liaison. A special meeting will be held to discuss the appointment of the new council member.
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8. Adjournment:
MOTION BY PHELAN SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO ADJORN THE MEETING.
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Hite, Phelan, Spieler. The Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
Peter Aldritt, Community Development Assistant
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