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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
Thursday, April 1, 1993
7:30 p.m. Call Meeting to Order.
a) Review Minutes of Previous Meeting.
7.35 p.m. 1. CONSIDER VARIANCE APPLICATION FOR
DENNIS SCHWEITERS.
8:15 p.m. 2. CONSIDER VARIANCE APPLICATION FROM
LITTLE SIX INC.
Other Business
a)
b)
C)
All times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the
exception of Public Hearings, are approximate and may start a
few minutes earlier or later than the scheduled time.
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APRIL 1, 1993
The April 1, 1993, Planning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Chairman Roseth, at 7:30 P.M. Those present were
Commissioners Roseth, Arnold, Loftus, and Wuellner, Director of
Planning Horst_ Graser, Assistant City Planner Deb Garross,
Associate Planner James Hayes, and Secretary Rita Schewe.
Commissioner Greenfield was absent.
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Commissioner Arnold stated a correction to page 4, paragraph 1,
line 1, to correct the spelling of the word "Commissioner ".
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY WUELLNER TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
CORRECTED.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Wuellner, Arnold, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
Horst Graser gave an update on various subdivisions being
submitted to the City of Prior Lake.
ITEM II - DENNIS SCHWEITERS - VARIANCE
Elizabeth Schweiters, 14424 Wa��rsedge Trail, stated they are
requesting variances to construct a single family home on the
subject site. A letter that was signed by the neighbors showing
their approval of the plan was presented to the Commissioners.
Deb Garross, Assistant City Planner, presented the information as
per memo. The variances requested are as follows: 1) 4.7 foot NE
side yard variance from the 10 foot setback requirement, 2) 3.5
foot BE front yard variance from the 25 foot setback requirement,
37 foot lakeshore variance from the 75 foot setback requirement,
4) 88 lot coverage surface variance from the 22% lot coverage
requirement, and 5) 10% impervious surface variance from the 30%
impervious surface requirement. The lot is relatively flat and
the existing cabin which is located in the floodplain will be
removed. This is a well established neighborhood with various
structures located within the Prior Lake floodplain, situated at
various setbacks from property lines and the 904 contour of Prior
Lake. This neighborhood has been in transition for many years
and has a number of structures that have been renovated, removed,
and rebuilt. Hardship is caused by the provisions of the
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Ordinance and is not the result of actions by the applicant or
the City of Prior Lake, and the platting and zoning standards of
a previous government. There were no comments from thu DNR.
John Turner, 14432 Watersedge Trail, vyiced his approval of the
proposed plan and felt the upgrade would be an improvement to the
neighborhood.
Chairman Roseth read into the record the letter stating approval
of the plan. Those listed were: Roger & Luann Eye -14438
Watersedge Trail; Roger & Jan Steiner -14416 Watersedge Trail; Bev
Halleckson -14413 Watersedge Trail; and John Turner Jr. -14432
Watersedge Trail.
Commissioner Wuellner commended the applicant for checking with
the neighbors beforehand and was in favor of the variances.
Commissioner Loftus felt the request was in keeping with
precedent set in the neighborhood and would support the
variances. Commissioner Arnold concurred with the Commissioners
and was pleased the non - conforming structure would be removed.
Commissioner Roseth also was in agreement.
MOTION BY WUELLNER, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO APPROVE A 4.7 FOOT HE
SIDE YARD VARIANCE FROM 10 FEET SETBACK REQUIREMENT, A 3.5 BE
FRONT YARD VARIANCE FROM 25 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT, 37 FOOT
LAKESHORE VARIANCE FROM 75 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT, BLOT
COVERAGE VARIANCE FROM THE 22i LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT, AND A
103 IMPERVIOUS SURFACE VARIANCE FROM THE 30% IMPERVIOUS SURFACE
REQUIREMENT RATIONALE BEING THAT PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, A NON- CONFORMING STRUCTURE WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE
FLOODPLAIN, APPLICATION OF CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS WOULD RENDER
THE LOT NON - BUILDABLE, HARDSHIP IS NOT CAUSED BY THE APPLICANT OR
THE CITY OF PRIOR LAKE BUT BY ZONING AND PLATTING STANDARDS OF A
PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT AND WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH
AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
Vote taken signified aye3 by Wuellner, Arnold, Loftus, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
Recess called at 7:55 P.M. until the next item on the agenda at
8:15 P.M. Meeting was reconvened at 8:15 P.M.
ITEM II - SIOUX COMMUNITY - LITTLE SIX INC.
Bill Rudnicki, 1825 Walnut Lane Egan, MN, representing Little
Six Inc. of the Shakopee Sioux Community stated they are
requesting a variance to construct a 1800 car parking lot in
conjunction with the expansion at Mystic Lake Casino.
Bill Englehardt, Chaska, Consulting Engineer for the Sioux
community, gave an overview of the proposed project. Scott County
has approved of the plans. Having the access on County Road 82
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will relieve traffic on County Road 83. The parking lot will be
landscaped with tree plantings, wildflowers, and concrete islands
to define driving lanes. The Prior Lake Landscape Ordinance
requirements will be implemented in the design.
Deb Garross, Assistant City Planner, presented the information as
per memo of April 1, 1993. A variance is required to allow the
construction of a parking lot in A -1 Agricultural and C -1
Conservation Zoneing Districts. Ms. Garross advised the
Commissioners that the Sioux Community has purchased the Menden
property and it is in the process of being put into a Trust.
When this is completed, the zoning authority of the City of Prior
Lake is no longer valid for the site. This application allows
the City via its variance process to assist the Sioux Community
in their expansion plans by approving the application at this
time. City Staff has worked with the Consulting Engineer to
consider construction issues such as grading, drainage, erosion
control, storm water management and landscaping. A memo from
Bruce Loney, Assistant City Engineer, listing five (5) conditions
was read.
Horst Graser, Director of Planning, reviewed the landscape plan
for the Commissioners. The proposed plan does meet the intent of
the Ordinance. Mr. Graser suggested different varieties of trees
and plants be introduced and felt that an irrigation system
should be installed.
Mr. Englehardt stated that it would not be a problem to implement
Mr. Graser's suggestions. He also stated that construction would
be scheduled to start on May 1, 1993.
Diana Rigenscheid, 15540 Woodland Circle, had comments on
definition of wetlands and landscaping species.
Comments from the Commissioners were on: completion. date of the
casino expansion (August 28 was given) redefining existing
parking lot, data on trips per day, planting recommendations left
to landscape consultant parking lot is needed, and a clear
direction of travel indicated.
Deb Garross read into the record an objection from Gary J. Olson
of 15585 Woodland Circle NW, stating the increased traffic as his
reason.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY WUELLNER, TO GRANT A VARIANCE TO
LITTLE SIX INC. OF THE SHAKOPEE SIOUX COMMUNITY, 2400 MYSTIC LAKE
BOULEVARD, TO CONSTRUCT A 1,896 CAR PARKING LOT WITH THE
CONDITIONS LISTED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS FOLLOWS:
A WETLAND DELINEATION REPORT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED WITH
ANY WETLANDS SURVEYED ON THE DRAWINGS. ANY FILLING OF
WETLANDS WILL REQUIRE A WETLAND REPLACEMENT PLAN.
A SCOTT COUNTY PERMIT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE ROAD
ACCESS. THIS PROPOSAL WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON THE
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COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM AND THE SCOTT COUNTY HIGHWAY
DEPARTMENT IS THE JURISDICTION RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING
THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS DUE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
3. ENGINEERING STAFF NEEDS TO REVIEW THE STORM WATER
MANAGEMENT CALCULATIONS FOR WATER QUALITY AND WATER
QUANTITY COMPLIANCE.
4. SITE CONSTRUCTION PLAN NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED FOR
COMPLIANCE WITH STORM WATER ORDINANCES AND MCPA•S
"PROTECTING WATER QUALITY IN URBAN AREAS ".
5. PLANS NEED TO BE REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE
SHAKOPEE BASIN WHO PLAN.
6. PLANS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PRIOR LAKE LANDSCAPE
ORDINANCE.
RATIONALE BEING THAT THERE HAS BEEN PAST PRECEDENT SET, AND IT
WOULD RESOLVE A TEMPORARY SITUATION AS THE LAND WILL BE TRUST AND
WOULD NOT BE UNDER PRIOR LAKE ORDINANCES.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Wuellner, Roseth, and
Arnold. MOTION CARRIED.
NOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO ADJOURN MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Roseth, and
Wuellner. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 9:30 P.M. Tape of meeting on file at City
Hall.
Horst Graser Rita M. Schawe
Director of Planning Recording Secretary
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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
AGENDA
Thursday, April 15, 1993
7:30 p.m.
Call Meeting to Order.
a) Review Minutes of Previous Meeting.
7:35 p.m.
1.
Public Hearing to consider an application from
Ray Brandt for preliminary plat approval of
Hidden View.
8:30 p.m.
2
Discuss format schedule of dates for Planning
District Neighborhood Meetings.
9:00 p.m.
3.
Consider variance application for Crown Coco.
9:30 p.m.
4.
Public Hearing to consider an ap plication from
Prior Lake Development, L.P. (The Wilds) to
amend the Comprehensive Plan to change the
Year 2000 Urban Service Area Boundary and Land
Use Plan.
Other Business
a) Receive 1993 PUD Status Report prepared
by Jim Hayes.
b) Final Review of Realtor Workshop
Recommendations (Allen Greenfield).
C) Discussion of Revised "Meeting Format•
(Allen Greenfield).
All times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the
exception of Public Hearings, are approximate and may start a few
minutes earlier or later than the scheduled time.
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The April 15, 1993, Planning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Roseth at 7:30 P.M. Those present were Commissioners
Roseth, Arnold, Loftus, and Greenfield, Director of Planning
Horst Graser, Assistant City Planner Deb Garross, Associate
Planner Jim Hayes, and Secretary Rita Schewe. Commissioner
Wuellner was absent.
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
WRITTEN.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Greenfield, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
IT EM I - _PUBLIC HEARING - HIDDEN VIEW PRELIMINARY PLAT
The Public Hearing was called to order at 7:35 P.M. The public
was in attendance and a sign -up sheet was circulated.
Ray Brandt, 1600 West 143rd Street, Apt. 205, Burnsville,
representing Argue Development of 3459 Washington Drive, Eagan,
MN, presented the information on the Preliminary Plat for Hidden
View. The proposal is to subdivide the property into 15 single
family lots. The northerly 3 lots will not be plotted at this
time, but when they are, will conform to this preliminary plat.
A retention pond will be constructed at one end of the project
to address the storm water management issues.
Associate Planner Jim Hayes, presented the information as per
memo. The preliminary plat of Hidden View is being processed as
a standard subdivision with the procedures and requirements
outlined in Section 6 -3 -2 of Subdivision Ordinance 87 -10 and is
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. The property is 9 acres
and an infill site acid development was expected in the near
future. The square footage of the lots range from 12,202 to
20,329 which meets the requirements of the ordinance. The
development will tave a variety of styles and price ranges and
should be compatible with the existing neighborhoods. The
subject site has previously been assessed for water and sewer
improvements and has no outstanding delinquencies. The
topography is a major feature of the site and home styles have
been created to take advantage of this feature. The Engineering
Department has listed 5 items to be contingent upon approval.
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The park dedication requirement for Hidden View will be in the
form of a cash dedication as opposed to a land dedication.
Lynnea Owens -14144 Shady Beach Trail, had comments on the lot
sizes being too small, traffic concerns, safety issues, i ncrease
in children for schools, price of homes, and development does not
fit into the neighborhood.
Keith Randa -14112 Bayview Circle, was concerned on increased
traffic, wants street changed to a cul -de -sac, and does not want
tranquility and peace disturbed.
Bret Nystrom -14220 Shady Beach, concerned on the safety by the
retention pond, mosquitoes, maintenance of pond, fences,
landscaping, and uses part of the subject site for his own
purposes.
Wayne Svenby -14248 Shady Beach Trail, should have cul -de -sac,
a neighborhood park, and lot sizes not uniform with the rest of
the neighborhood.
Bret Nystrom -14220 Shady Beach Trail, stated that since Aspen and
Shady Beach Trail were joined, traffic and crime became a
problem in the neighborhood. Mr. Nystrom stated he has painted
slow signs on the street to curb the speed of traffic.
Joe Schaefer -14143 Shady Beach Trail, feels the density is too
high, the development would be a downgrade to the neighborhood
and the road is too hilly.
Chris Green -14320 Shady Beach Trail, remarked on the safety for
children, contour of land causes traffic hazards, and subdivision
should be for 8 homes.
John Bradley -14190 Bayview Circle, noted he too was against the
development as he felt the lot sizes were too small, increase
traffic, drainage, and it would downgrade the neighborhood.
The public portion of the hearing was closed at this time.
Commissioners Comments:
commissioner Greenfield asked about sidewalks, park, trail
system, drainage, size of lots, and density of houses.
Commissioner Arnold remarked on the pond requirements, DNR
report, erosion control, traffic, and density of houses.
Commissioner Loftus commented on the pond dimensions, park
availability, the lots on Shady Beach were unsewered when platted
thereby making those lots larger, and the unusual shape of
the proposed lots.
Commissioner Roseth commented on the pond, Police should be
involved on the traffic issues, merging the two inside corner
lots into one lot, and status of the northerly 3 lots.
City Engineer Larry Anderson, responded to the Commissioners
questions in his report. The pond is mandated by the State for
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stormwater management, Prior Lake is the fee owner, fences are no
longer used as they are more of a hazard than a help, and the
outlot would be dedicated to the City. In the matter of traffic,
it has been found that when the Police were asked to patrol the
area which complained on a traffic problem, it turned out to be
the neighbors themselves that were issued citations for the
violations.
Deb Garross reported on future County Road 42 access, and that
the subdivision meets Prior Lake's ordinance requirements.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY GREENFIELD, TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY
COUNCIL, APPROVAL OF THE HIDDEN VIEW PRELIMINARY PLAT CONTINGENT
UPON:
A) ACCEPTABLE UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS SHOWN ON THE FINAL
PLAT.
B) ACCEPTABLE WETLAND DELINEATION REPORT AND ACCEPTABLE WETLAND
REPLACEMENT PLAN, IF NECESSARY.
C) ACCEPTABLE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, INCLUDING GRADING AND
SITE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
D) ACCEPTABLE PLANS FOR SANITARY SEWER, WATERMAIN, AND STREET
IMPROVEMENTS.
E) ACCEPTABLE STORM WATER DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS TO MAINTAIN A
PRE - DEVELOPMENT RUNOFF RATE LEAVING THE SITE.
F) THE POND BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AS AN OUTLOT.
RATIONALE BEING THAT THE SUBDIVISION FULFILLS THE REQUIREMENTS AS
SETFORTH IN SECTION 6 -3 -2 OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE 87 -10 AND
IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN
PLACE.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Greenfield, Roseth, and
Loftus. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY GREENFIELD, TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Greenfield Loftus, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED. The public hearing adjourned at 9:00
P.M. A recess was called at 9:00 P.M. The meeting was reconvened
at 9:02 P.M.
ITEM II - DISCUSS FORMAT SCHEDULE OF DATES FOR PLANNING DISTRICT
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS
Commissioner Greenfield suggested that Item II be placed in the
time slot of Other Business - c, and Item c be moved to a future
date as Commissioner Wuellner was not present. This was
agreeable with the Commissioners.
ITEM III - CROWN COCO VARIANCE
David Miller represented Crown CoCO of 319 Ulysses Street N.E.,
Minneapolis, MN. Mr. Miller stated he is requesting an 8 foot
variance to accommodate installation of flat fascia wrap around
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the perimeter of an existing canopy. Mr. Miller also stated that
at the same time an effort will be made to resolve a sign problem
by removing the building sign, an existing freestanding sign and
install a free standing sign and wall signs that meet the City's
code requirements.
Assistant City Planner Deb Garross, presented the information as
per memo of April 15, 1993. The variance application from Crown
CoCo is requesting an 8' front yard variance from S.T.H. 13
right -of -way in order to install new fascia on an existing canopy
to a 12' X 51' rectangular shape. The existing canopy is located
at a non - conforming front yard setback. The Zoning Ordinance
requires a minimum 50' setback form S.T.H. 13 right -of -way. The
City is currently involved in litigation with Crown CoCo Inc.,
regarding the Prior Lake Sign Ordinance and its application to
the E -Z Stop site. Staff required that a sign plan be submitted
with the application as the canopy upgrade includes the
installation of two signs on the new fascia.
Scott County records indicate that the site was developed in 1963
under the jurisdiction of Spring Lake Township and annexed
into Prior Lake in 1973. Precedent has been set in the past with
a 7' variance for Amoco and a 17' front yard variance to Holiday.
The proposed upgrade will not encroach further into the setback
than the existing canopy, but will continue the existing wall.
Recommendation from Staff is to approve the 8' front yard
variance from S.T.H.13 right -of -way subject to the condition that
all signage be brought into compliance with the Prior Lake Sign
Ordinance and a compliance date should be established, in
addition, the lawsuit against the City relative to the sign iseus
be dismissed, and that the freestanding sign not exceed 75 square
feet. Hardship is present as listed in the staff report of April
15, 1993.
Comments from the Commissioners were on, strength of the fascia
construction, compliance date, single pole vs two pole sign
design, lawsuit be dismissed, and area would be improved.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO GRANT AN EIGHT (8) FOOT
FRONT YARD VARIANCE FROM S.T.H. 13 RIGHT -OF -WAY TO E -Z STOP
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: THAT ALL SIGNAGE BE BROUGHT
INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PRIOR LAKE SIGN ORDINANCE; COMPLIANCE BE
IN 90 DAYS; DISMISSAL OF THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF PRIOR
LAKE; THE FREESTANDING SIGN BE NO LARGER THAN 75 SQUARE FEET;
LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD PRECLUDE THE UPGRADE
OF THE EXISTING CANOPY AND RESULT IN UNDUE HARDSHIP TO THE
PROPERTY; THE APPLICATION IS TO RENOVATE AN EXISTING CANOPY WHICH
REQUIRES THE EXTENSION OF A LEGAL- NONCONFORMING SETBACK, THE
RENOVATION WILL NOT CAUSE FURTHER ENCROACHMENT INTO THE REQUIRED
FRONT YARD SETBACK; THE HARDSHIP IS CAUSED BY PROVISIONS OF THE
ORDINANCE AND IS NOT THE RESULT OF ACTIONS OF PERSONS PRESENTLY
HAVING AN INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY; THE HARDSHIP IS NOT THE
RESULT OF THE APPLICANT NOR THE CITY OF PRIOR LAKE BUT RATHER
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RESULTS DUE TO THE APPLICATION OF CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS TO A
SITE WHIG jJ?S DEVELOPED UNDER THE JURISDICTION S SPRING LAKE
TOWNSHIP; THE VARIANCE OBSERVES THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THIS
ORDINANCE, PRODUCES SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE AND IS NOT CONTRARY TO
THE PUBLIC I13TEREST; THE VARIANCE APPLICATION LS SIMILAR TO OTHER
SETBACK VARIANCES WHICH HAVE BEEN GRANTED FOR CANOPY CONSTRUCTION
ADJACENT TO S.T.H. 13, THE RENOVATION WILL NOT ENCROACH CLOSER TO
THE REQUIRED SETBACK THAN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, THE VARIANCE
WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE
COMMUNITY AND WOULD PRODUCE SUBSTANTIAL. JUSTICE.
Commissioner Greenfield suggested a recommendation to the
applicant that a single pole construction be considered.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Greenfield, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM IV - PUBLIC HEARING - COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE
WILDS
The Public Hearing was called to order at 9:30 P.M. The public
was in attendance and a sign -up sheet was circulated.
Mike Morley 2800 Wilds Parkway, Project Manager for The Wilds,
presented the application from Pr or Lake Development L.P. "The
Wilds ", requesting an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan and
Land Use Plan to allow the construction of a golf course,
clubhouse, 2 hotels, 2 restaurants, convenience store, village
shopping center and residential housing. Expert golf architects
were employed to design the golf course. The Wilds is consistent
with Prior Lakes Comprehensive Land Plan. Thera is also ample
capacity in all Prior Lake's systems for the utilities, for the
project, and The Wilds presents no metro impact. Present status
for The Wilds is as follows; the Comprehensive Land Plan has been
applied for, the PUD has been submitted to the City of Prior
Lake, the preliminary plat has been submitted to the City and the
EAW is complete.
Horst Graser, Director of Planning, presented the information as
per memo of April 15, 1993. Mr. Graser stated the amendment to be
considered is:
1. To add 580.4 acres of land (The Wilds) to the year 2000 Prior
Lake Urban Service Area (P.L.U.S.A.).
2. To remove 280 acres of the existing year 2000 P.L.U.S.A.
3. To amend the land use component of the Comprehensive Land Use
Plan and to change the e xisting land use designation of the
580.4 acres site from agricultural and natural open space to
low density residential and commercial land use.
4. To amend the land use plan of the comprehensive plan to
change the existing land use designation of the 280 acre
"Land Exchange" site from industrial and low density
residential to agricultural land use.
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Mr. Graser spoke on different aspects of the application. The
focus of the amendments is a land exchange not an expansion. The
Metropolitan Council is in their interim MDIF (Metropolitan
Development Investment Framework) and any expansion of the urban
service area may be quite difficult. Therefore it seemed prudent
to all parties concerned to pursue a land exchange.
The Metropolitan Council will act upon the exchange of the urban
service area as well as any land use plan changes. The
Metropolitan Council recently adopted interim strategies related
to MUSA adjustments until the new or revised Metropolitan
Investment Framework is completed. This amendment is to exchange
580.4 acres as per the application and remove 280 acres directly
south of County Road 42 and adjacent to County Road 21. Staff
has determined the service characteristics such as sewer and
transportation, of the subject area and the exchange area are
similar. Because of use and density characteristics, the demand
on metropolitan systems will remain unchanged.
Prior Lake's current comprehensive plan projects land use and
service demands until the year 2000. With a few exceptions these
demands must be addressed within the P.L.U.S.A. Prior Lake's
existing urban service area total 5,895 acres of which 1 120
acres are vacant developable land. The land demand pro actions
to accommodate growth are estimated 730 acres by Prior Lake
Staff. The Metropolitan Council has estimated that only 510
acres are needed. Their lower figure is reflective of using 3.3
units /acre density rather than actual 2.5 units /acre documented
in previous studies.
The subject site contains an abundance of features and these
features should be shared with all the community members. There
are several steep slopes, wooded ridges, natural wetlands and
waterbodies that provide the opportunity for a sensitive and
innovative developer to create a unique residential environment.
A community trail system has been identified incorporating
Jeffers Ridge and Mystic Lake.
In calculating the level of service, the traffic being generated
by The Wilds consists of approximately 9700 trips per day.
Comparing that to the 280 acres that is being removed shows 8500
trips per day. The wastewater generation for The Wilds is
approximately 257 gallons per day, and for the 280 acres being
removed it is 240 gallons per day, even though The Wilds is 300
acres larger, the land use for the exchange area will generate
just as much traffic and wastewater and this is primarily due to
the low density of The Wilds area and the industrial zoning of
the Vierling parcel.
The recommendation from Staff is to approve the amendments as
requested and are outlined in Resolution 93 -01. The trade within
the urban service area is sound and prudent contiguous growth
management and is consistent with previous recommendation to
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Prior Lake by the Metropolitan Council. The exchange area
consisting of 280 acres has not been assessed for any urban type
of services and no plans or proposals to develop the land have
been presented to the City. Subject to topographical
limitations, the entire 280 acres is currently being farmed.
Larry Anderson, City Engineer, presented information on the sewer
service area and a location map of the proposed trunk lines was
shown. The sanitary sewer system is adequate to provide service
for The Wilds and for other surrounding areas. Prior Lake could
provide the sewer line to the Mdewakanton Sioux Community which
would be financed by them. We have an adequate sewer capacity
that has been allocated to the City of Prior Lake by Metropolitan
Waste Control Commissicn and will have no adverse impact on the
metropolitan sewer service and is not a substantial departure
from the sewer service policy plan from the Metropolitan
Council.
The location of the proposed trunk water line was shown and
explained. This watermain system would have adequate capacity to
provide water service to the area. Currently the Mdewakanton
Sioux Community have their own private water system. We may want
to discuss a watermain interconnect to provide for emergency fire
flow, but it is not our intention to provide water service to the
Sioux Community.
A traffic analysis map completed by Strgar- ROSCO- Fausch, Inc.,
for The Wilds development was shown. The transportation system
that will be developed as a result of The Wilds development, will
first be the north /south collector which will be a 32 foot wide
roadway with a sidewalk on one side. The roadway will be two lane
with no on- street parking. The majority of the lots that abutt
on this roadway will not have direct access to the roadway but
will have side streets to provide access to these lots. As a
result of The Wilds development, certain traffic improvements
will be needed. Scott County is proposing in 1993, to construct
a temporary signal at the intersection of County Road 42 & 21.
Turn lanes will be constructed in several locations to facilitate
traffic flow. The Mdewakanton Sioux Community has committed to
providing financial assistance in the roadway improvements as
they are very aware of the fact this would benefit them in their
gaming operations. The City of Prior Lake is not served by a
metropolitan highway. The nearest metropolitan highway will not
adversely be impacted and the land proposed exchange to the urban
service area will not negate a negative impact to the
metropolitan highway system. For the purpose of the
Comprehensive Plan, the land exchange will provide a
neutralization of the increased traffic that would ever occur as
a result of The Wilds, be negated by the land that would be taken
out and there would be no adverse impact to the metropolitan
highway system.
Robert Hoffman of Larkin, Hoffman, Daly, & Lindgren, special
counsel to the City of Prior in regards to The Wilds gave a brief
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overview of the project. Prior 'Lake is known as a freestanding
center in the metropolitan scheme of things which means Prior
Lake is self- contained and that is important in regards to
looking at the comprehensive plan and particularly as it may
relate to the metropolitan systems. The Metropolitan Council has
urged freestanding centers to grow contiguously and in an orderly
manner and has committed to assist in that. The Metropolitan
Council has an interim set of strategies that are related to the
expansion of an urban service area. A small part of it is
directed to the exchange of an urban service area and that is the
proposal being presented to the City, that the comprehensive plan
reflect a change within the urban service area. The Metropolitan
Council has acknowledged in the past that the exchange within a
city of the urban service area parcels is substantially if not
totally within the discretion of the city. The Metropolitan
Council is concerned primarily with what comes out of the city as
it affects regional systems. What a city does internally that
generates either traffic or sewer is up to the city so long as it
stays within the allocation of the Metropolitan Council. As
Staff has indicated, this exchange stays well within the
parameters of allocation by the Metropolitan Council to the City
of Prior Lake. Mr. Hoffman stated that the comprehensive plan
will be reviewed carefully by the Metropolitan Council and
complimented the staff on their diligence and thoroughness in
documenting the reasonable amendment to the comprehensive plan.
Mr. Graser presented the Land Use Data. Prior Lake now is half
urban and half rural. The net developable acres or total vacant
land available is 1,120 acres, the proposed amendment would add
approximately 300 acres to the urban service area which would
total approximately 1,420 acres of vacant land available. The
objective of the amendment was to show even though there is an
increase the level of service or demand of service would not
change. Traffic and sewage being generated are offset by the area
being removed versus the area being added. The 2010
Comprehensive Plan will be completed possibly in one year. At
that time Prior Lake will be able to add 500 - 800 acres. It
would be prudent to add the acrea taken out now be added back in
if so agreed upon by a future Council.
Bob Jeffers, 3675 - 140th St., wanted to state as a matter of
record, that he and Mr. Vierling are opposed to the exchange.
They are concerned what will happen to their property in the
interim and will review with their attorneys on what action to
take at that time.
Leo Vierling -14091 Eagle Creek Ave N.E., is opposed to the
exchange as his property will decrease in value and why not wait
one year.
Mark Hyland- 3520 -154th St. owner of a nursery, voiced his
concerns on what would happen to his 41 acres if the development
goes through and would like the area to stay agricultural. Mr.
Hyland does not want to be in the urban service area.
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The public portion of the hearing was closed at this time.
Commissioner Loftus asked Mr. Hoffman to clarify the legal rights
orgy the property exchange.
Mr. Hoffman stated that the current status of the law is that the
individual property n %ner that has undeveloped property, but
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zoned a certain ca'egory, has a difficult time claiming damages
if that property is downzoned. An example was given if a
property owner in a city had property zoned high density
residential in an undeveloped state and a development was not
started and the city, for policy reasons downzoned it to low
density residential, public opinion would say value had been
lost. But the current status of the law is that it is difficult
to recover under that. There are cases from commercial to
agricultural and have a significant decrease in value and still
the land owner would have difficulty to recovering damages. The
theory behind that is, so long as there is some use for the land,
even though its been devalued, there is a question if the land
owner can recover damages. In Mr. Hoffman's opinion the same
principles prevail and there is probably less of a claim by the
property owner for damages in the exchange in the urban seriice
area than there is in a downzoning.
Commissioner Roseth read into the record two letters received.
1. Robert Jeffers P.O. Box 193, Prior Lake, dated April 15,
1993; addressed to Horst Graser, in answer to the request by
the City to willingly relinquish the sewer and water rights.
Mr. Jeffers felt if he gave up his rights it would cause a
major disruption in his immediate plans for his property and
will not sign the letter of understanding dated January 29,
1993, that would permit the City of Prior Lake to delete his
property from the City of Prior Lake's Urban Service Area as
set forth in the City of Prior Lake's current zoning map and
comprehensive plan.
2. Lindberg S. Ekola, Planner, City of Shakopee, 129 East First
Avenue, Shakopee, dated April 15, 1993; had comments on the
coordination of development along the entire County Road 83
corridor, and suggested a series of sub-regional forums with
Scott County, the Mdewakanton Dakota Sioux Community and the
cities of Prior Lake and Shakopee to further discuss
transportation and other development issues, would be
beneficial to all parties.
Commissioner Greenfield had a question on the definition of parks
and open space concerning the exchange, the reason of the land
exchange when citizens are against it and asked Mr. Hyland to
explain his position again.
Mr. Graser gave a brief outline of the existing comprehensive
plans and the proposed comprehensive plan defining the plans for
connecting trail systems.
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Mc. Hoffman stated the property being proposed for exchange of
280 acres is not assessed for any urban services, has no urban
services therefore the land owners have not made any investments
based on an urban service area. If these properties had been
assessed for some years it may be another story. No plans are
pending before the City for a development and hasn *t been for the
years they have been in the urban service area. For what ever
reason, the land owners have elected to keep it rural
agricultural. There is a request before the Commissioners for a
development now for both residential and commercial. This
exchange was strongly recommended to the City of Prior Lake by
the Metropolitan Council in 1991.
Mr. Hyland restated his position.
Commissioner Arnold commented that the issue on hand is the land
exchange and that is what is to be considered and understands the
reason for the exchange.
Commissioner Roseth stated the subject site is in a natural trend
to be linked to a activity center from Prior Lake to The Wilds to
the Mdewakanton Sioux Community and would be a uniformed area and
sound planning. The issue on the agenda is land exchange and
land use.
Commissioner Loftus requested to see Mr. Jeffers letter and asked
him what the plans are. Mr. Jeffers said he pplane to develop but
could do nothing if this was approved. Mr. Vierling stated the
land in question is not in t o agricultural preserve, fools the
taxes are high and the value is down.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 93 -01
WHICH READS AS FOLLOWS:
RESOLUTION 93 -01
RESOLUTION OF THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE AN
ADJUSTMENT OF THE PRIOR LAKE 2000 URBAN SERVICE AREA
WHEREAS, THAT THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED A
PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 15TH DAY OF APRIL 1993, TO ACT ON
A PETITION SUBMITTED BY PRIOR LAKE DEVELOPMENT L.P. TO
ADJUST THE URBAN SERVICE AREA UTILIZING A LAND EXCHANGE;
AND
WHEREAS, THAT NOTICE OF THE HEARING ON SAID MOTION HAS BEEN DULY
rUBLISHED AND POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE
MINNESOTA STATUTES; AND
WHEREAS, THAT THE LAND EXCHANGE WOULD ACCOMMODATE "THE WILDS"
DEVELOPMENT BY EXTENDING THE YEAR 2000 URBAN SERVICE
AREA BY 580.4 ACRES AND REMOVING 280 ACRES; AND
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WHEREAS, THAT THE 580.4 ACRES LAND EXCHANGE AREA ADJOINS THE
MDEWAKANTON SIOUX COMMUNITY URBAN DEVELOPMENT AREA AND
IS ADJACENT TO THE PRIOR LAKE 2000 URBAN SERVICE AREA;
AND
WHEREAS, THAT PRIOR LAKES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAP WILL
REFLECT THE USES AS PROPOSED IN "THE WILDS" DEVELOPMENT
FRAMEWORK; AND
WHEREAS, THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT RESULTING BECAUSE OF THE LAND
EXCHANGE WILL BE CONTIGUOUS TO EXISTING URBAN
DEVELOPMENT; AND
WHEREAS, THAT PRIOR LAKE'S LEVEL OF SERVICE IS WELL WITHIN LOCAL
AND REGIONAL SYSTEMS CAPACITY; AND
WHEREAS, THAT THE DENSITIES IN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA ARE
CONSISTENT WITH REGIONAL ALLOCATED CAPACITY; AND
WHEREAS, THAT "THE WILDS" PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMPLIES WITH PRIOR
LAKE'S ADOPTED WATER QUALITY PLAN AND MINNESOTA
POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCIES BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND
THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SHORELAND
MANAGEMENT; AND
WHEREAS, THAT THE PROPERTY TO BE REMOVED FROM THE 2000 URBAN
SERVICE AREA IS CURRENTLY BEING FARMED, HAS NEVER BEEN
ASSESSED FOR URBAN SERVICES, AND URBAN SERVICES ARE NOT
READILY AVAILABLE, AND WILL NOT BE DESIGNATED
AGRICULTURAL ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAP;
AND
WHEREAS, THAT THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL HAS RECOMMENDED TO PRIOR
LAKE ON DECEMBER 1991, THAT ANY URBAN SERVICE
ADJUSTMENTS SHOULD INCLUDE A LAND EXCHANGE; AND
WHEREAS, THAT THE LAND EXCHANGE DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ANY
METROPOLITAN SYSTEMS.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING
COMMISSION AS FOLLOWS:
1. APPROVE THE PETITION BY PRIOR LAKE DEVELOPMENT L.P.
2. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL REVIEW ANY COMMENTS FROM
THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL.
PASSED AND ADOPTED THIS 15TH DAY OF APRIL, 1993.
A brief discussion by the Commissioners followed and all were in
consensus with the motion.
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Tom Foster asked to be recognized at this time as he was
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commissioned by Mr. Jeffers to speak. Mr. Foster was advised
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that a motion was on the floor and(taitlthere had been ample time
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to speak in the public portion of the hearing. R
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denied at this time.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Greenfield, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
Tom Foster, 5795 Shannon Trail SE, Prior Lake, spoke for Mr.
Jeffers stating that he has had in -depth involvement with
developers over the last three years. As Mr. Foster has been
closely associated with Mr. Jeffers over the last two years, he
can speak first hand on the situation and recently they are far
enough along that a conceptual layout has been prepared by a
developer and we're moving along at a very brisk pace for a
development of his property and ultimately the sale. Mr. Foster
said he is sure that with the motion that has been passed, begs
to differ with Mr. Hoffman, thinks there will be action taken
that will prove that Mr. Jeffers is making serious overtures with
several developers in developing his property on a timely basis.
Mr. Vierling and Mr. Jeffers indicated to all of the
Commissioners they were deeplyy concerned about their property
being devalued
as a result in an exchange of the MUSA line. He
(Mr. Foster) is the first person to recognize that there is not a
PUD that has been presented to the City at this time.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Roseth, and
Greenfield. MOTION CARRIED. Public Hearing closed at 11:25 P.M.
Recess called at 11:25 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 11:30 P.M.
ITEM V - OTHER BUSINESS
a) 1993 PUD Status Report was presented by Associate Planner
James Hayes. Mr. Hayes reported that Staff recommends no changes
on The Harbor, Sand Point, Tower Hill and Windsong on the Lake
PUD Zoning status. No additional information has been received
from the developer on the Priorview PUD completion. Staff
recommends statue quo on this PUD in the hope that a developer
will complete this project.
Items b & c were tabled to the next meeting when all the
Commissioners could be in attendance.
ITEM II - PLANNING DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS
Deb Garross and James Hayes presented information on the
procedure to schedule meetings with the district neighborhoods.
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Maps were shown conveying the districts and the identification of
natural features, parks, and etc.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY GREENFIELD, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Greenfield, Roseth, and
Loftus. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting adjourned at 11:50 P.M
City Hall.
Tapes of meeting on file at
Horst W. Graser
Director of Planning
Rita M. Schewe
Recording Secretary