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PLANNING ODMMISSION
AGENDA
movies 19, 1987
7:30 P.M. CALL TO DRUM
7:30 P.M. REVI6R MINIM OF PREVIOUS MEETING
7:35 P.M. REARING
8:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING
9:30 P.R. HEARING
9:45 P.& HEARING
COMr. OF P.D.D. TOM S'PBPHEIS
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CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
PLANNING CDMMISSION
MII urEs
MARCH 19, 1987
The March 19, 1987 Prior Lake Planning Commission meeting was called to order at
7:32 P.M. by Vice Chairman Roseth. Present were Commissioners Arnold, wells,
Kedrovaki, City Planner Graser, and Assistant City Planner Garross.
Commissioner Loftus arrived at 7:50 P.M.
ITEM I - REVIEW MnffJTFS OF PREVIOUS MEETING
MM70N BY AI=Z TO APPROVE THE K W1TES OF THE MARCH 5, 1987 PLANNIM COlAIISSICN
MELTn G AS PRESWTED, HEMMED BY WELLS.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Kedrowski, Roseth, Wells; the motion carried.
ITEM II - CONCEPTUAL PLAT HEARIEG FOR DOUG FARRELL - NCR7H SHORE OARS
Gene Sinpkins and Doug Farrell, property owners, commented that they are seeking
concept approval for a small subdivision consisting of 13 lots which is located
adjacent to Carriage Hill Road. The introduction of sewer and water to the area
has prompted the owners to submit development plans.
City Planner Grazer discussed the Conceptual Plat for North Shore Oaks This plat
would came under the old Subdivision Ordinance and Conceptual Plat approval was
given by Eagle Creek Township prior to its annexation to Prior Lake. Mr. Graser
further commented on sewer utilities planned for the area, tree plantings, width
of Carriage Hill Road, and the proposed park land. The area designated for park
is low land and may not satisfy City park dedication requirements. The
developer should give thought to retaining the parcel as a natural wildlife
area. Staff recomwaids conceptual plat approval.
The Planning Commissioners commented on the topography being even with little
grading and filling to be done, the size of the lots, proposed price range and
possibility of creating lots to accommodate garages. The Commissioners were
concerned that many of the proposed lots are smaller in dimension than lots in
adjacent subdivisions. Adjacent homeowners may oppose the platting of lots
smaller than existing lots. It was the consensus of the Commission that the
developer should proceed with their plans.
At this time a 5 minute recess was called.
The meeting was called back to order at 8:13 P.M. by Qainman Loftus.
(912) 447.4230 4029 DAKOTA STREET S.E. P.O. BOX 359 PRIOR LAKE, MINNESOTA 55372
MINUTES OF THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MARCH 19, 1987
Previous to the meeting at 5:30 P.M. a tour of the property for this hearing was
taken by Staff, Planning Commission, developer, and area residents. Greg
Halling, Engineer for Rehder Wenzel, and representative for the developer was
present to answer questions.
City Planner Graser reviewed past action of Priorwood P.U.D. with regard to the
history of the P.U.D. and original proposal to develop 106 multi family units in
a 17.4 acre parcel. The concerns of 5 years ago are similar to todays concerns.
They consist of natural limitations of the site, garage space, another need for
a plan with detail and good architectural design. Five years ago the Prior Lake
market favored apartments and condominiums while today's market is for single
family homes. Mr. Graser further commented on drainage and creek flowage, the
integration of the P.U.D. development with adjacent developed neighborhoods, tot
lot area, road design and collector system for safety, grading and filling
destruction, flood plain and orientation of units on the property.
At this time audience input was called for.
The area residents were opposed to the increased density proposed, destruction
of natural features, devaluation of their property, impact of development on
the environmentally sensitive area, transition area between single family homes
and condos or apartments with a buffer, increased heavy traffic in area if Cates
and Five Hawks are connected, erosion and water flow, and tot lot location a
concern for safety.
The Planning Commissioners had concerns over the in —eased density, haw changes
from the first P.U.D. request to this amendment affect the density bonuses
given, density bonuses should be re- evaluated, tot lot location, destruction of
slopes and natural features, developers lack of concern for the environment,
amount of buildable area, trails/walkways, aesthetic design, roadway circulation
for safety, drainage and water flow, owner occupied or rental, engineering and
parks concerns. The Cammissionners were concerned that the density the developer
is attempting to achieve is in direct conflict with the goals of P.U.D.
development as specified in Section 6.11 of the Zoning Ordinance.
MOTION BY WELLS TO DENY THE PRIORWOOD P.U.D. APPLICATION AS PRESENTED BASED ON:
1. THE P.U.D. DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED IN THE ZONING
ORDINANCE.
2. UNITS TO NORTH IN THE P.U.D. ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE, A 15'
BUFFER IS NEEDED TO REMIM NATURAL FEATURES AND TO PROVIDE SEPARATION
BE7WEEN THE P.U.D. AMID EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE PROPOSAL
SHOULD INCLUDE PLANS FOR A SIDEWALK Xa G FIVE HAWKS AVENUE AMID A
PRIVACY FENCE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND P.U.D.
3. LOCATION AND SIZE OF TOT LOT SHOULD BE ADDED AS PER STAFF'S
RHCOMASMDATTON.
4. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE REOONMENDID ALONG MONTE EDGE OF P.U.D. FOR
TRANSITION AREA AND OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS SHOULD BE LmOORPORATED AS WELL
L3 RENTAL UNITS.
5. INSUFFICIENT PARKING SPACES FOR P.U.D.
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MURYT S OF THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MARCH 19, 1987
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Xedrewski, Loftus, Roseth, Wells; the motion
carried.
MOTION BY ARNOID TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONCEPT SITE PLAN - PRIORAIDD
P.U.D. AMENDMENT BY TOM STEFFENS, SECONDED BY ROSETH.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Xedrowski, Loftus, Roseth, Wells; the motion
carried.
`The tape of this hearing will be kept on file in the office of the City Planner
as the official record of this Public Hearing.
At this time a 5 minute recess was called. The meeting resumed at 10:05 P.M.
ITEM IV - CMaU UEa VARIAN FMUEST BY GRFI^: EIRE
Greg Eide commented that the request is for a 24'X28' garage to the south side
of his house.
Assistant City Planner Garross commented per memo dated 3/5/87 with regard to
safety onto County Road 81. Also stating that a call from Brad Larson, Scott
County Highway Fthgineer was received. The County would be opposed to this
variance request due to the creation of another access point onto County Road
81. Staff was concerned that a safe intersection could not be achieved due to
existing topography on the site.
The Planning Commissioners commented an the topography of the lot with concern
over the steep slope and limited landing space at County Road 81. The
Commissioners were concerned that the intersection of the driveway and County
Road 81 would cause an unsafe situation for the homeowner and traffic on the
County Road.
MUTION BY AMID TO DENY THIS REQUEST FOR A 34 FOUT FRONT YARD VARIANCE FROM THE
SOUTHEAST PROPS 7 :LINE FOR 3013 FAIL M ROAD 'SnC8 TO SLOPE PRESENTS AN
UNSAFE CONDITICN FOR ACCESS TO G"M Row 81, HEMMED BY HOSETH.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Xedrowski, Loftus, RDseth, Hells; the motion
carried.
ITEM V - OO;PTINI7� VARIANTS RFI)[188T BY Dffim ALBERTS
Doi Alberts commented on the request for an 8' frontyard and 4 south aide
yard variance to build a garage. Mr. Alberts presented two letters from
abutting property owners, Ardis Bergh north side property owner and Mr. 6 Mrs.
Michael Wagner south aide property owners, not opposed to the variance request.
Also Mr. Alberts presented pictures showing lot lines and house which he bought
as such.
Assistant City Planner Garross commented per memo dated 3/19/87 with regard that
the lot exceeds minimum lot size requirements, the applicant purchased the home
with full knowledge of the garage and driveway situation, and lack of hardship
as specified in Section 7.6 of the City Zoning Ordinance.
The Planning Commissioners discussed the variance and understood the situation.
However there was concern over setting an irreversible precedent.
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MRUjT 6 OF THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MAR(H 19, 1987
NOTION BY ROSEIH 1D DENY THE APPLICATION FOR 4'11' SIDE YARD AND 8' FRONT YARD
vARIANCE FOR 14704 OWE AVENUE S.E. SINCE IT DOES NOT CONPORM ID THE PRIOR LAKE
ZONING OEUnW4CE SEOTION 7.6 AND GRANTING W)UID SET AN IRMWERS PRECEDENT,
SECONDED BY ARNOLD.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Kedrowski, Roseth, Wells; nay by Loftus (He
felt there was a hardship not caused by the applicant.); the motion carried.
NOTICE; BY ROSETN TO AAOURN ME MARCH 19, 1987 PRIOR LAKE PLMOM;G COMUSSION
MEPIN;G, SEOOIDED BY Ar*XW.
upon a vote to ken, ayes by Arnold, Kedrowski, Loftus, RDseth, Wells; the motion
carried. The meeting adjourned at 11:00 P.M.
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CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
> ammassION
AGENDA
MARM 5, 1987
7:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER
7:30 P.M. NEVIEMt MINUTES OF PREVIOUS NMTD G
7:35 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING ZONING CODE AMEN
7:35 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING
8:15 P.N. PUBLIC HEARING
OMITIOML USE PERMIT
P.O.D. AMENDMENT
9:00 P.M.
SAS DEVELOPMENT T INC.
SAS DEVE[OPME7P INC.
GREG N. BIDS
(812) 117.1238 4629 DAKOTA STREET S.E. P.O. BOX 968 PRIOR LAKE, MINNESOTA 56372
CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
MUCH 5, 1987
The March 5, 1987 Prior Lake Planning Commission meeting was called to order at
7 P.M. by Chairman Loftus. Present were Commissioners Arnold, Roseth, Wells,
City Planner Graser and Assistant City Planner Garross. Absent was Commissioner
Kedrowski.
ITEM I - REVIEW MIIIIVES GP PREVIOUS MEIMW
MOTION BY ARNOLD TO APPROVE TRB MINUTES Or THE FEBRUA 19, 1987 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING AS PRESENTED, SECONDED BY ROSEl9.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Roseth, Wells; the motion carried.
ITEM II 6 III - PUBLIC MEM FOR SAS DEV OPIUEniT ZONING CODE AMENDMENT AND
CONDITIONAL USE WAS CALLED TO ORDER
Scott Lindholm, owner, commented an the request to amend the zoning code to
permit car washes as a conditional use In the B-1 Limited Business District for
Lot 1, Block 1 Jm es 1st Addition. The applicant commented on the demographic
information being positive, site plan of project ,'description of project with
regard to building construction and color, landscaping with regard to lighting
and traffic flow, operating equipment and guidelines, community impact and
personal data regarding owner/manager operated.
City Planner Graser commented per memo dated 3/2/87 with regard to zoning code
amendment in a B-1 district to allow a car wash, comunity' impact, berming and
landscaping, lighting, architectural style, equipment, signage, parking, seeded
va sodding, hours of operation, and area neighborhood protection.
At this time audience input was called for. There were no comments from the
audience.
The Planning Commissioners discussed the proposed amendment, the purpose of the
B-1 District and the compatibility of the use with existing business and
residential development. The Commissioners were concerned with architectural
style, neighbors opinion, landscape plan, parking and radii of driveways,
elevations, berming to protect the residential district from light, sound,
visual, noise and pollution, outside storage, reclamation system and impact on
the the sewer system and proposed signage. The general consensus of the
Commission was that if designed properly, a car wash facility could be
introduced without detrimental impacts to the area.
(612) 447.4230 4629 DAKOTA STREET S.E. P.O. BOX 359 PRIOR LAKE, MINNESOTA 65372
MINUTES OF THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MARCH 5, 1987
MOTION BY ROSETH TO APPROVE ZONING CODE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW CAR WASHES AS A
CONDTI7:ONAL USE IN THE B-1 LIMITED BUSINESS DISTRICT SINCE THIS IS NOT
DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY, SECONDED BY WELLS.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Loftus, Roseth, Wells; nay by Arnold; the motion
carried.
AT THIS TIME THE CONSENSUS WAS TO CONTINUE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
APPLICATION FOR A CAR WASH IN A B-1 LIMITED BUSINESS DISTRICT TO APRIL 2, 1987
AT 7:35 P.M..
MOTION BY ROSEIR TO CASE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING EDDE AMENDMENT, SECONDED
BY WELLS.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Roseth, Wells; the motion carried.
*line tape of this hearing will be kept an file in the office of the City Planner
as the official record of this Public Bearing.
At this time a 7 minute recess was called. The meeting resumed at 9:02 P.M.
ITEM IV - PDBLiC REARTMI MIR Cr*Z W cunt WAN - nortaavn n It n wueww.uawwn e..
Greg Balling, Engineer for Rehder Wenzel, and representative for the developer,
commented on the request to increase the density of the P.U.D. to 118 units with
the annexation of Holly Court. The proposed development framework consists of 2
single family homes which would be located off Rommoke Street, one 12 unit
building and six 6 unit buildings on 13 acres in Holly Court for a t density
of 5 0 units. Mr. Balling presented pictures of the building
disturbed land and trees already dead from grading. Also the pictures shared
the type and style of units in Burnsville which will be incorporated here. Mr.
Balling also commented on sidewalk along Five Hawks, additional parking stalls,
trash handled by resident, location of development with respect to the 10 year
flood plain, and the biggest concern of the tot lot on 1 1/2 acre site.
City Planner Graser commented per memo dated 3/3/87 with regard to memo's
presented by City Engineer, tarry Anderson and Parks Director, Bill Mangan.
Also concern over the guidelines of a P.U.D. being uphel such as steep slopes,
design of units, density, 100 year flood plain, every portion of the development
made to be the best place to live, elevations, natural features, mature trees,
meeting setbacks, non-buildable law area, and tot lot consideration.
At this time audience input was called for.
The area residents were opposed to the increased density proposed, destroying of
natural features, devaluation of their property, and impact of development an
the environmentally sensitive area. Residents were also opposed to the proposed
location of th tot lot because they felt children would trespass into their
property-
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MINUTES OF THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION KUKH 5, 1987
The Planning Cammissioners had concerns over the increased density, how changes
from the first P.U.D. request to this amendment affect the density bonuses
given, if density bonuses can be re- evaluated, tot lot location, destruction of
slopes, developers lack of concern for the environment, amount of buildable
area, trail/•aalkways, aesthetic design, damage to natural features, engineering
and parks memo's. The commissioners were concerned that the density the
developer is attempting to achieve is in direct conflict with the goals of
P.U.D. development as specified in Section 6.11 of the Zoning Ordinance.
AT THIS TIM THE OONSBNSOS WAS TO CONrD= THE CONCEPT SITE PLAN - PRIOR M
P.U.D. AMBmmm RBauWr ZO MARCH 19, 1987 AT 8:00 P.M. WITH A TOUR OF THE AREA
AT 5:30 P.M.
*The tape of this hearing will be kept on file in the office of the City Planner
as the official record of this Public Bearing.
rM V - mtZAHM RH708f1f' BY GM N. EIDE
There was no representative for the applicant present.
AT TBLS TIM THE COI SMM WAS ZO OONfnM SM VAR AWi MUBST FOR GREG N. EIRE
TO MACE 19, 1987 AT 9:30 P.M.
The Comissioners discussed the retreat tentatively set for April 11, 1987. The
retreat date was changed to April 25, 1987.
IDTM Br AFIM TO AD30URN THE MACH 5, 1987 PRIOR LABB PLAN D.NG CONKGRON
MEETING, SEMH= BY WBLLB.
Upon a vote taken, ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Hoseth, Weller the motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 10 P.M.
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