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PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION
- AGENDA -
March 17, 1983
7:30 P,.M.
7:35 P.M.
7:45 P.M.
8:00 P.M.
8:15 P.M.
Call to order
WALTER STOCK
GARY GIBBISH
DENNIS B. JOHNSON
MIKE McGOIRE
VARIANCE
LAND USE DISCUSSION
VARIANCE
VARIANCE
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CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
PRIOR LAKE PUNNING COMMISSION
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March 17, 1983
The March 17, 1983 meeting of the Prior Lake Planning Commission was called
to order by Chairman Roseth at 7 :54 P.M. Present were Commissioners Foster
Fitzgerald, Felix and City Planner Graser. Absent was Arnold.
The minutes of the previous meeting were reviewed. Motion by Fitzgerald
to approve the minutes as written, seconded by Foster. Upon a vote taken,
the motion was duly passed.
Item I, Variance request by Walter Stock for Lot 1 8 the west h of Lot 2
Condon's wood Dale. Barry Stock, son of the applicant was present to
answer questions.
City Planner Graser commented per memorandum dated March 17, "1983.
Barry Stock presented the Commissioners with a signed letter of adjoining
neighbors who had no objection to the variance.
Motion by Foster to approve a 4 foot side yard variance for Lot 1 and the
west h of lot 2 Condom's Wood Dale since it would be consistent `with' the
character of the neighborhood and square off the building and make it
look presentable and not be detrimental to the neighborhood or City,
also the letter of no objections of the neighbors be entered as'Exhibit
"A ", seconded by Fitzgerald. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly
passed.
Item I1, Gary Gibbish, Land Use Discussion. Mr. Gibbish was present to
answer questions.
City Planner Graser reviewed the Land Use Discussion which came before
the Planning Commission 2 weeks previous. The Planning Commissioners
need to decide where in the zoning ordinance a mini - storage use can
be placed.
Mr. Gibbish stated that he would like <the, - Commissioners to find a place
in the Zoning Ordinance for Mini - Storage use.
Discussion followed by the Planning Commissioners in just which district
should this use be placed.
Motion by Fitzgerald to recommend approval for Mini- Storage to be
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seconded by Foster.
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vote taken, 3 ayes and 1 naye. The motion
At this time the meeting recessed for one minute to remove a disorderly
person.
Item III, Variance request by Dennis B. Johnson was called to order
at 8:54 P.M. Mr. .Johnson was present to answer questions.
City Planner Graser commented per memorandum dated March 17, 1983.
Motion by Fitzgerald to approve the 4 foot front yard variance and 25
foot lakeshore variance for Lot 5 Sorlien and Hoffman 1st Addition
since it is consistant with previous variances on such developments
and not detrimental to the general health and welfare of the Community
seconded by Felix. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
Item IV, Mike McGuire request for variance. Mr. McGuire was present
to answer questions.
City Planner Graser commented per memorandum dated March -14, 1983.
Mr. McGuire stated that the house is small even with the setbacks.
Motion by Foster to approve a 21 foot front yard variance from the west
side of Lot I8 as redefined and a 38 foot lakeshore variance on the same
lot to build a 1040 square foot house in Condon's Wood Dale subdivision
based upon natural and man made limitations of the lot and previous
variances granted in old subdivisions which adjoin the lake and not
detrimental to the general health and welfare of the Community,
seconded by Fitzgerald. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
At this time City Planner Graser announced a workshop is scheduled by
the City Council and Mayor at the Fire Hall, March 28, 1983 at 7:30 P.M.
Monday. The Planning Commission is invited to a round table discussion.
Motion by Fitzgerald to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting,
seconded by Felix. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
The meeting adjourned at 9:28 P.M.
CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION
- AGENDA -
March 3, 1983
7:30 P.M.
7:35 P.M.
7:45 P.M.
8:30 P.M.
8:45 P.M.
Call to order
Gary Gibbish
Dennis McWilliams
Michael Fitzsim mns
Schweich Const. Inc.
LAND USE DISCUSSION
SCHEMATIC PLAN - P.U.D.
MOTION TABLED FROM FEB. 17th
VARIANCE
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CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION
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March 3, 1983
The March 3, 1983 meeting of the Prior Lake Planning Commission was
called to order by Chairman Roseth at 7:30 P.M. Present were
Commissioners Fitzgerald, Foster, Felix, Arnold and City Consulting
Planner Tooker.
The minutes of the previous meeting were reviewed. Corrections
were as follows:
Change paragraph 6, line 3 from "with the 25 foot
set back requirement"
to
"with the 100 foot County Road right of way"
Motion was made by Foster to approve the minutes as amended, seconded
by Felix. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
Item I, Gary Gibbish, land use discussion. Mr. Gibbish was present
to answer questions.
City Consulting Planner Tooker commented that Mr. Gibbish was
considering a mini storage facility area for the triangular
property between Highway 13 and Main lying east of the park
shop.
Mr. Gibbish commented that the site would be excellent for this
type of use due to:
1. It needs only water and the sewer line is up the road
by the old fire station.
2. Everything is locked inside and is very clean around
the area.
3. Highway exposure is important for this use.
The Planning Commission commented on `his item.
Motion by Fitzgerald to refer this request for mini storage to staff
for review and comment regarding the appropriate place in the City
to generally have mini storage and also specific recommendation as
to the site, recording map and site plan as Ehibit "A ", and to have
staff look into lighting and fencing, seconded by Foster. Upon
a vote taken, the motion duly passed.
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Planning Commission, March 3, 1983 (cost.)
Item II, Dennis McWilliams, P.C.D. Sand Pointe 3rd Addition, Schematic
Plan, Public Hearing was called to order by Chairman Roseth. Mr. James
Hill, Consultant for the applicant was present to answer questions.
City Consulting Planner Tooker commented per memorandum dated Feb. 28, 1983.
Mr. Hill said that the spirit and intent of R -1 density for Sand Pointe 3rd
will continue the theme of single family detached homes. It has eliminated
driveways off Crest Ave., due to heavy traffic from 42 to Sand Pointe Beach.
Carriage Hill road will be a collector also. A convenience center in the
future when the addition is completed will be added. Staff has requested
a water tower site in this location which is Outlot B. Lot sizes are 65'
based on Sand Pointe 2nd Additions' marketability. The housing will cost
60 to 70 thousand dollars. Density is under the Comprehensive Plan
requirements. The narrow openings to the park area were due to cost
factor and the overall plan is consistant with the residential neighborhood.
At this time the Public Hearing was opened to the audience.
Cleve Mickley, Shady Beach had concern over the sewer to the east and will
it connect to the previous one.
Mr. Hill commented that the pumps would be modified to handle the sewage.
Steve Hoyt, North Shore Oaks, had concern over the commercial lot and a
neighborhood center being built with high traffic already in the area and
a transition along Candlewood for a buffer.
Jim Peterson, North Shore Oaks, had concern over who would be responsible
for the cost of a sewer line in the proposed addition and pump stations.
Also when will sewer and water be brought to the west of this area.
Mr. Hill commented that the charge will be against the 3rd addition.
Mr. Tooker commented that the Comprehensive Plan shows this area to be
first in priority, with an approximate timing between 1983 and 1985.
Roger Olson, Hampton Street, had concerns with widening of streets and
curbing and taxing when the sewer comes along.
Mr. Tooker commented that there is nothing firm now on this. Usually there
is a request by area residents for improvements.
Sue Foster, 5409 140th, had concerns with lot sizes in the proposed addition.
There are large lots now in the area and felt they should be kept consistant.
Also a buffer is needed. Also a convenience store isn't needed since there is
one only 1 miles down the road now. Also the traffic from Sand Pointe Beach
b County Road 42 is heavy now and would be greater with a convenience store.
Mr. Hill commented that in the future signal lights would probably be installed
on County Read 42 6 the area residents would 6 could support a convenience store.
John Meyers had a concern over a convenience store close by.
Phil Rooney, Fisher Ave., had concern over continuing a buffer between the sud-
division 6 existing homes 6 concern over the resale of existing property abutting
the subdivision.
F inning Commission, March 3, 1983 (cont.)
Leo Vierling, 14091 Eagle Creek Ave., had concern over foot traffic
to the north from the subdivision where he pastures cattle.
Nanev Peterson, Shore Trail, had concern over load on the present lift
station to handle the sewer and water and upgrading of Crest Ave. at
whose expense.
Mr. Hill commented that it would be part State Aid Funds and part
developers expense.
At this time the Public Nearing was closed.
The Planning Commission.rs had several concerns over the P.U.D. meeting
the required criteria, concern over sensivity to the existing neighborhood,
concern over a water tower location and neighborhood center, concern over
the traffic volumne, and expense incurred, and concern over sewer and water
development.
Discussion followed with the Planning Commissioners, the Developer, and
City Consulting Planner.
Motion by Fitzgerald to give preliminary approval from Planning Commission
for Plan A of the Sand Pointe 3rd Addition for the following reasons and
subject to specific recommendations:
This is a relatively isolated site influenced by the County; Road
on the north, severe topography on the east, Sand Pointe Recrea-
tional activity on tfie south and a step down approach to develop-
ment on the vest and south to establish a transition between small
and regular R -1 Lots.
The specific recommendations which follow are based on the site plan:
1. No connection of Cedarwood to Hampton Street.
2. No road connection of Amblewood from Crest to Aspen but
rather a walkway consistant with the plan developed and
accepted in 1978_
3. Add Lot 1 Block 5 and Lots l 6 2 Block 4 to the Park
area known as Outlot C.
4. Add 5 foot earth and berm buffer Outlot F from the south and
west. Add earth and berming on Lots 1 -18 Block I to
shelter the area from County Road 42 north.
5. All lots on west side of Candlewood Lanpin Block 9 all
lots on the west side of Block '14 and all lots in Blocks12
and 13 shall be 10,000 square feet with ?a minimum lot width
of 80 feet. The balance of the lots in the subdivision
shall have a minimum lot width of 68 feet with a 8125
minimum lot size.
6. AIl lots on the west side of Candlewood Lane have - a 30 foot
no cut no clear in the rear abutting North Shore Oaks.
7. A landscaping allowance shall be provided for each lot developed
on the site of $225 plus sodding or seeding as appropriate in
the development.
8. There shall be further general treeing along Crest Ave., and
a sidewalk implemented on one side.
9. Pha:,es shall be developed that place a moratorium on the
development of those lots above the 990 elevation, consistant
with staff recommendation, until such time as a new trunk
line is built to the west.
Inning Commission, March 3, 1983 (cont.)
10. There shall be a park improvement in Outlot C and done
at the developers expense determined by staff not to
exceed $5,000 in lieu of dedication of Lots 3 and 4
Block 4.
11. The developer shall pay for all lift station improvements
involved in the easterly flow of sewage.
12. Additional architectural controlls shall be defined at
such time as the final approval be given.
13. There shall be either garages or spaces for garages
specified for on each lot in the development scheme.
14. Outlot A & B remain as Outlots for future study as
to appropriate land use.
seconded by Arnold. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
Motion by Foster to close the Public Hearing, seconded by Felix.
Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
At this time Chairman Roseth called for a five minute recess.
The Planning Commission was called to order at 10:00 P.M.
Item III, Michael Fitzsimmons, Home Occupation Permit continuation.
Mr. Fitzsimmons was not present to answer questions.
It was noted that Mr. Fitzsimmons was to do a study and report.
Motion by Fitzgerald to deny the Home Occupation Permit request for
14110 Aspen Ave. NE to convert and work on V.W. engines in the applicants'
garage and to wholesale parts for V.W. engines, based on lack of compati-
bility with the neighborhood, seconded by Foster. Upon a vote taken,
the motion was duly passed.
Item IV, Schweich Construction, variance requests for Subdivision of
Outlot A Grainwood Park. Ted and Greg Schweich were present to answer
questions.
City Consulting Planner Tooker commented per memorandum dated March 3, 19
Discussion followed by the Planning Commission and applicant.
Motion by Arnold to approve the following variances for Outlot A
Grainwood Park:
Lot 10 a 2.5 foot front yard variance
Lot 1 a 5 foot front yard variance & a 4 ft. side yd. va
Lot 2 a 4 foot side yard variance a 2 ft. variance each
and in all cases the buildings be set back 25 feet from the curb consistant
with what the Planning Commission has done in the past, seconded by Foster.
Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
(4)
Motion by Arnold to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting, seconded by
Fitzgerald. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed. The meeting
adjourned at 10:20 P.M.