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Special Planning Commission Meeting
September 29, 1980
8:00 PM Gary Gibbish - Variance request.
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Special Planning Commission Meeting
9/29/80
The meetina was called to order by Chairman Fitzgerald at 8:00
PM. Present were Fitzgerald, Wilker, Roseth and Graser and Arnold.
Chairman Fitzgerald called for the only item on the agenda.
Planner Graser described the variance request by Gary Gibbish.
The request calls for a 11.9 front yard variance from Franklin
Trail. Staff recommended approval.
Motion was made by Wilker to approve the request since only
one corner of the building is at variance and the residential
set back for adjacent property to the east is only 30' and the
request would not be detrimental to general welfare and health
of the people, seconded by Roseth, the motion carried.
Exhibit "A" showing the proposal was made part of the record.
Motion by Wilker to adjourn, seconded by Arnold, the motion
was carried and the meeting was adjourned at 8:15 PM.
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PRIOR LAKE PLANN - NG COMMISSION
- AGENDA -
September 18, 1980
7:30 PM Brad Rothem - Concept Review
8:00 PM Howard Lake Estates - Public Hearing
8:45 PM Sign Ordinance - Continuation - Public Hearing
9:30 PM Bruce Ehlers - Variance
9:45 PM Don Schussler - Variance
10:00 P14 Dennis Griswold - Concept Review
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Agenda R eport
7:30 P.M. Brad Pothem - Concept Review
The applicant is proposing to divide lot 2, block 3,
Bluff Heights Addition into 3 lots. Staff will make
a full presentation at the meeting.
8:00 P.M. Howard L Estates - Public Hearing
Attached please find staff memorandum and preliminary
plat.
8:45 P.M. Sign Ordinance - Continuation & Public Hearing
Attached please find latest revisions of the ordinance.
9:30 P.M. Bruce Ehlers - Variance
Attached please find staff analysis
9:45 P.M. Don Schussler - Variance
Attached please find staff analysis
10:00 P.M. Dennis Griswold - Concept Review
Staff will make a full presentation at the meeting.
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September 18, 1980
The September 18, 1980 meeting of the Prior Lake Planning Commission was called to order at
7:30 p.m. Present at the meeting were Commissioners Fitzgerald, Roseth, Arnold, Wilker, City
Planner Graser, Assistant Planner Burt and Councilman Bissonett.
The minutes of the September 4, 1980 Planning Commission meeting were reviewed. Motion was
made by Arnold to approve the minutes as published, seconded by Roseth. Upon a vote taken the
motion was dul_ passed.
Item I, Concept Review for Brad Rothem was called to order by Chairman Fitzgerald.
Staff gave a presentation to the Planning Commission. At this time the Plat was presented and
comments were made.
M Rothem commented on this and was available to answer questions from the Commissioners. ..'�
The Planning Commissioners commented on this item.
Motion was made by Roseth to give concept approval of the preliminary plat submitted by Brad
Rothem, seconded by Wilker. Upon a vote taken the motion was duly passed.
At this time Chairman Fitzgerald called for a five minute recess.
The meeting was reconveined at 8:UO P.M.
Item II, a public hearing for Howard Lake Estates was called to order. Mr. Fillipi was present
to answer questions.
Planner Graser gave a presentation to the Commission. Noted that the preliminary plat submitted
for public hearing consists of five lots each consisting of five or more acres and each lot
fronting at least 300' on a public road. Perculation tests were taken on the site with results
shown on the plat. The rates as shown are acceptable for single family.
The plat consists of 28.6 acres with the water area consisting of about 7.5 acres. According
to Council determination, three lots are possible however, a forth is conceivable if access by
easement is permitted over and across another lot. Staff's recommendation to the Planning
Commission under the circumstances is to deny this plat because water area is used to calculate
lot requirements. Also access to the buildable area of two lots is via an easement. The plat
as presented would be extremely difficult to resubdivide into smaller lots when sewer and water
be ^omes available. Extending sewer and water to the two unaccessable building areas could
p ibly be cost prohibitive.
Commission members commented on this matter. Chairman Fitzgerald was concerned about the
question of having to cross 300' of water to get to the buildable portions of two lots
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after the property was divided. Coming up with 5 lots is just squeezing alot out of
the property. Commissioner Arnold was concerned about the driveway easements, having to cross
lots to get to the inside one.
Motion was made by Arnold to deny this preliminary plat on the basis that we can find no conditions
under which it will qualify for special exception under our zoning Ordinance Special Exception
5 -3 -6 and secondly that we question the availability of the water lands in computation of the
lot size, seconded by Roseth. Upon a vote taken the motion was duly passed.
At this time Chairman Fitzgerald called for a 5 minute recess.
The meeting was reconveined at 5:45 P.M.
Item III, the Sign Ordinance Hearing was called to order.
Assistant Burt made a presentation of the changes in the proposed sign ordinance.
The Planning Commissioners commented at this time.
Motion was made by Roseth to approve the sign ordinance with the approved amendments as written,
seconded by Arnold. Upon a vote taken the public hearing was adjourned..
Item IV, Concept Review for Dennis Griswold was called to order.
Staff gave a presentation to the Planning Commission. At this time the Plat was presented and
comments were made.
MGriswold gave his presentation and was available for questioning.
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Commission members were concerned about the public road, the setbacks from the water and if
the turn around was necessary.
Item V, a variance for Don Schussler was called to order.
Planner Graser gave a presentation to the Commission. Noted that the request is to consider
a 10' front yard variance for Lot 4, Block 1, Gatewary Shores Addition. Gateway Shores was
platted in 1974 with roads and utilities installed in 1978. Red Oaks Circle which has been
renamed to Adrian Circle is 50 ft. wide with blacktopping 30 ft. face to face leaving a 10'
boulevard. This would leave the applicants house 25 ft. from the face of the road. The lot
has a 25' plateau at street grade, but then drops off severely. To observe: the set back would
require much filling and the removal of a rather large oak tree in the back. The two adjacent
lots are vacant. The lot to the west is quite low, but does not pose the development restriction
as the subject parcel. The lot to the east is confronted with the same slope. However the other
lots in the plat contain flat buildable areas. Staff's recommendation was to approve the request
because of the unique terrain of the parcel. In this case the home placement on the lot is not
that critical since the curvilinear road system produces an uneven set back relationship.
Mr. Schussler commented on his request and was available for questioning.
Commission members saw no objections to the request.
Motion was made by Wilker to approve the variance because of the unique terrain of the parcel
and the placement of the home is not critical since the curvilinear road system produces an
r en set back relationship, seconded by Roseth. Upon a vote taken the motion was duly
P- ed.
Item VI, a variance for Bruce Ehlers was called to order.
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Planner Grazer gave a presentation to the Commission. Noted that the request is to consider
a 9 ft. lakeshore variance for Lots 3 and 4, Grainwood Park to construct a single family
_ling and attached garage. The subject parcel is a 100' lakeshore lot zoned R -1 with
municipal services available. The two adjacent homes in this case have set backs less than
50' from the 904 elevation. According to Zoni -9 Code the subject home may have a 50' set back
from the 904 elevation because of the two adjacent homes being closer to the lake. A set back
less than 50' requires a variance which in this case is 9 ft. Grainwood Park was platted with
a 20' roadway, but the City has since acquired 15' of roadway. In cases such as this the front
set back is taken from the front property line, rather than the road easement. Therefore, a
front yard variance is not necessary. Staff's recommendation was to approve the variance request
since the two adjacent homes are closer to the lake, making the development compatible with exist
development.
Mr. Ehlers was present to answer questions.
Chairman Fitzgerald was concerned about the removal of the shed and boathouse. Mr. Ehlers
commented that he did plan to remove both.
Motion was made by Arnold to approve the variance as requested because it is consistent with
the surrounding neighborhood, but ti)e existing shed and boathouse should be removed within one
year, seconded by Roseth. Upon a vote taken the motion was duly passed.
Motion was made by Arnold to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting, seconded by Roseth.
Upon a vote taken the motion was duly passed and the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
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- AGENDA -
September 4, 1980
7:30 PM
7:35 PM
8:00 PM
9:15 PM
9:30 PM
Approve nutes
Charles -. Dr1e7 - Variance
Sign Ordinance - Continuation - Public Hearing
Ted Hukriede - Variance
Northwestern Bell Telephone - Conditional Use Permit
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September 4, 1980
The September 4, 1980 meeting of the Prior Lake Planning Commission w:s called to order at
7:30 P.M. Present at the meeting were Commissioners Fitzgerald, Rose - .h, Arnold, Wilker,
City Planner Graser, Assistant Planner Burt and Councilman Bissonett.
The minutes of the August 21, 1980 Planning Commission meeting were reviewed. Motion was
made by Wilker to approve the minutes as published, seconded by Roseth. Upon a vote taken
the motion was duly passed.
Item I, a Variance request by Charles Doorley was called to order.
Planner Graser gave a presentation to the commission. Noted that the request is to give
consideration to Mr. Doorley to continue using a travel trailer as a permanent residence
while constructing his home. The travel trailer is located on Lot 5, Block 1, ::hristie's
Addition. Mr. Doorley is in the process of constructing his home on the adjacent lot.
r._ took out the building permit in 1978 and in doing so wishes to reside in the travel
trailer while he is constructing. The applicant states his trailer will be removed when
lis home is completed. The scheduled completion date is fall of 1981, with only the base -
nent completed to date. He is proposing to build the home entirely himself and relates it
to "labor of love ". Therefore necessitating the existing condition. Staff's recommendation
was to deny the request since the resultant condition of a variance would be detramental to
the he- .:lth, safety and general welfare of the community.
Mr. Doorley was present at the meeting to answer questions.
The Commission members questioned why it was taking so long to build the home and if this
problem really justified a variance.
Motion was made by Arnold to deny the variance request primarily because it does not fulfill
any of the four requirements as outlined under a variance request, seconded by Roseth. Upon
a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
Item II, the Sign Ordinance Public Hearing was called to order.
Assistant Planner Burt made a presentation of the changes made in the proposed sign ordinance
as recommended by the Planning Commission at the public hearing on august 7, 1980.
Each section of the proposed sign ordinance with the chances were addressed and input was given
by the Planning Commissioners and the audience members. Concern about the amount of coverage
allowed for window signs and interior window signs was discussed and with the insertion of the
9 individual, so it reads "inside surface of an individual window shall not exceed" and
"twenty -five percent of each individual window area" added, this should clarify that. There
was also concern shown about existing free standing signs so after the passage of this ordinance
any existing signs which demonstrate a hardship may contact the zoning officer and Planning
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r- ission to obtain a special ise permit.
Mr. Ron Alielke, a representative from Naegele sign took. the : "odium and asked if he couldn't
come to the next schedualed Planning Commission meeting and J ve a presentation on billboards.
Naeqele sign will be scheeual.ed for September 13, 1980 at -45 for the presentation.
Motion was made by Rosette to approve the revisions to the sign ordinance with *_hose amendments
which we have made this evening to be incorporated and brought before this commission two weeks
from tonight, along with a continuation of the public hearing :.o consider the billboard issue,
seconded by Arnold. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
Item III, a variance request by Ted Pukriede was called to order. Mr. Hukriede was present
at the meeting to answer questions.
Assistant Planner Burt gave a presentation to the commission. Noted that the variance request
is to consider a six foot side yard variance from the west property line and a five foot front
yard variance from the present road surface, on Lot lb of Grainwood Park. The applicant is
proposing to build a 12' x 20' detached garage. This area was platted sometime ago with 50
foot lots. The area presently has many garages close to the road surface, in the past staff
has recommended that a garage be at least 20 feet from the road surface to get a car completely
off the street. Staff's recommendation was to approve both the front and side yard variance
on the condition the existing shed be removed and the roof of the garage follow the same roof
lines of the home.
Mr. Hukriede made no comments regarding this variance.
�-° ire were no objections from the Planning Commission regarding this variance request. Motion
:dam. made by Arnold to approve both front and side lard variances as indicated in the proposal,
but at the same time the shed be removed and the other staff recommendation that the roof of the
garage follow the same roof line as the home, keeping with the situation of the rest of the
neighborhood, because of the lot size, seconded by 'nilker. Upon a vote taken, the motion was
duly passed.
Item IV, a conditional use permit request by Northwestern Bell Telephone was called to order.
Bob 0okken and Ken Jefferson, representatives from Northwestern Bell were present to answer
quest. ,;ns.
Planner Graser gave a presentation to the commission. Noted that the request is to consider a
conditional use permit to construct a 14' x 18' telephone utility building on the Northwesterly
portion of Lot 9, Block 4, Sand Pointe Addn. The proposed site consists of 8000 sq. ft. and
is the northwestern portion of Lot 9, Block 4 of Sand Pointe Addition. The property is currently
vacant and is zoned R -1. The remainder of Lot 9 consists of 18,200 sq. ft. The property adjacent'.
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to the west is First Addition to North Shore Oak and is also zoned R -1. The adjacent lot to the
west is developed with a single family home and has direct access to 140th St. Residential access'
for Lot 9 would be from Candelwood Lane. The telephone Company has negotiated a contract with
the abutting property owner to the west to share the driveway. The County Engineer has granted
a seperate curb cut for the utility building should it become necessary.
Northwestern Bell. Telephone has been searching for a site to construct a utility building in
the vicinity of intersection 140th St, N.E. and Crest Ave. N.E. The Planning Commission on
August 7th recommended the Northeast corner of intersection 140th St. and Crest Ave., however
this site was not available.
S- 'aff's recommendation was to approve the use with the following stipulations: 1) The
contract with the abutting property owner to the west is executed deliniating access and
paving stipulations. 2) The structure be maintained in good repair at all times and sided
with s »ite and painted brown. ma o a p
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P--- Dokken and Mr. Jefferson, representing Northwestern Bell Telephone were present to -�
aer questions. Mr. Dokken commented on the request. `
Mr. Dahlgren, the owner of the property adjoining immediately to the west of the proposed
site expressed his concern mainly about what effect it would have on zoning and would it
effect any future changes in zoning that would make 42 a strip or become commercialized. And
what is the best location? Lucy Snyder, property owner next to Dahlgrens was concerned about
vandalism and also about 42 becoming a strip.
Chairman Fitzgerald was concerned about the fact that this would be creating a small lot in a
residential .area, how could this lot be split without some kind of zoning ordinance change.
Wilker questioned the possibility of keeping all the utility buildings in one parcel and also
the size of the building, did they really need that large of a building.
Diotion was made by Arnold to deny the request for a conditional use permit and encourage a
temporary service of some sort which would handle the facility for a year or so, at which time
a comprehensive plan could be at least looked into analyzing the comprehensive plan for a�publ
utility area in that quadrant someplace. Combining that with concern of the lot size, it was:+
seconded by Wilker. Upon a vote taken, the motion was duly passed.
tion was made by Arnold to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting, seconded by Roseth.
vote taken the motion was duly passed and the meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
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