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PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, April 1, 2013
1. Call to Order:
Acting Chairman Roszak called the April 1, 2013 Planning Commission meeting to order at
6:00 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Hite, Roszak, Blahnik, Planner Jeff Matzke,
Public Works Director Katy Gehler, and Community Development Assistant Peter Aldritt.
2. Approval of Agenda:
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO APPROVE THE APRIL 1, 2013 MEETING
AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Roszak and Hite. The Motion carried.
3. Consider Approval of March 18, 2013 Meeting Minutes:
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY HITE TO APPROVE THE MARCH 18, 2013
MEETING MINUTES.
VOTE: Ayes, Hite, Blahnik, and Roszak. The Motion carried.
4. Public Hearings:
A. DEV-2013-1008 14354 Watersedge Trail Variance. Scott Wold, on behalf of
Robert Johnson, is requesting variances from the minimum impervious surface requirement
and lot setbacks on Prior Lake. The property is located on the north end of Lower Prior Lake
along Watersedge Trail.
Planner Matzke
presented that S. Wold Construction Inc., on behalf of the owner, is
requesting variances from the minimum lake setback, minimum front yard setback, minimum
sum of the side yard setbacks, minimum building separation, minimum lot area, and maximum
impervious surface on property located at 14354 Watersedge Trail NE. The site is currently
vacant. The homeowner plans to build a residential home, hence the need for the variances.
The exact variances that are needed include: (1) a 15 foot variance from the required
minimum 20 foot front yard setback using the average front yard setbacks of the adjacent
properties; (2) a 10.5% variance from the 30% maximum impervious surface requirement for a
residential property in the Shoreland District; (3) a 13.3 foot variance from the required
minimum 50 foot structure setback from the Ordinary High Water (OHW) elevation of Prior
Lake using the average lake setbacks of adjacent properties; (4) a 3.4 foot variance from the
minimum 15 foot separation between all structures on the nonconforming lot and on the
adjoining lot; (5) a 4.4 foot variance from the minimum 15 foot sum of the side yard
requirement; and (6) a 1,830 square foot variance from the minimum 7,500 square foot lot area
required for development of a nonconforming lot of record. There would not be a lower level to
this house because it is located in the flood plain. The house will need to be built above the
910’ regulatory flood protection elevation.
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Commissioner Questions:
Blahnik
asked whether the two adjacent homes are built below the flood protection elevation?
Planner Matzke
responded yes; the flood plain regulations did not come into effect until the
late 1980s.
Blahnik
asked about the approximate impervious surface of the adjacent properties.
Planner Matzke
responded that he did not know the neighboring properties’ impervious
surface; however, the aerial photo shows that they appear to look similar to what the proposed
development will be on the applicant’s property.
Blahnik
asked for a reason why the proposed house is proposed to be closer to the street?
Planner Matzke
responded that the applicant can answer that question better, but part of that
is to match the other homes in the neighborhood and keep it further from the lake.
Roszak
asked whether the proposed 3.5 foot wall will be 3.5 feet taller than the neighbors’
property on both sides?
Planner Matzke
responded yes because of the flood plain regulation.
Blahnik
asked whether raising this home’s elevation will create any drainage issues on the
neighboring properties?
Planner Matzke
responded that through the building permit review process, the drainage is
reviewed and approved; the arrows on the survey show the drainage flowing to swales along
the property and being directed to the lake and the street.
Roszak
asked about the proposed building height in comparison to neighboring homes.
Planner Matzke
responded that this home is proposed to be two-story; the neighboring
properties are single level rambler styles.
Hite
expressed concern about having all the drainage go to the lake and the potential creation
of drainage problems for the neighboring properties.
Planner Matzke
responded that they try to create drainage swales to direct water to the front
and back of the lot. The front half of the property is usually pitched to go to the street, and the
back of the lot is directed to the lake.
Roszak
asked about recent storm sewer projects in this area and where that water is directed.
Planner Matzke
responded that there was a recent city project for this area; the storm water is
directed to ponds and/or rain gardens, treated and then drained to the lake.
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MOTION BY ROSZAK, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:56
PM.
VOTE: Ayes, Hite, Blahnik, and, Roszak. The motioned carried.
Applicant/Contractor S. Wold (9457 State Hwy 10 Ramsey MN)
discussed the drainage and
requested variances. The drainage will be directed by swales to the lake and street. The
retaining walls will not be encroaching over the lot lines.
Blahnik
asked why the house be moved closer to the street?
Applicant Wold
responded that the house was pushed further from the lake to a setback that
conforms with other properties in the area.
Blahnik
asked about the finished square footage of the house.
Applicant
responded that there is about 1,310 square feet for the house and 646 square feet
for the garage.
Hite
asked about construction of the retaining walls to allow for drainage.
Applicant Wold
responded that they will be keystone with a rock base and gravel behind to
drain along the wall.
Hite
asked how close will the retaining walls be placed to the neighboring properties?
Applicant Wold
responded that it will be constructed a few inches within the property line.
Hite
asked whether there is any vegetation on the neighboring properties that could be
impaired by the construction of the walls?
Applicant Wold
responded that they will do everything possible not to impact vegetation along
the property lines, but that may not be avoidable.
Hite
asked whether mitigating the drainage from entering the lake is possible considering the
amount of impervious surface?
Applicant Wold
responded that the soil will be sloped to encourage permeation on the
property before it sheet drains to the lake or street; grading will also help contain the water on
the property to be absorbed as much as possible.
Hite
asked if the applicant had a cut/profile sheet of the slopes and the retaining walls?
Applicant Wold
responded no, not but the survey does show elevations.
Hite
asked whether a cut/profile sheet could be provided?
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Applicant Wold
responded that it would be easier to show other properties in the area that
have done similar grading with retaining walls.
Hite
asked if the applicant had been working with the city engineer on the grading and
drainage plan?
Applicant Wold
responded yes; he has been working with staff through the entire process.
Roszak
asked whether the retaining walls will be constructed without going on the neighbor’s
property?
Applicant Wold
responded that a small back hoe will be used with access to the site through
the center of the lot; the work will be done from the inside out.
Cherry Burnhaman, 14360 Watersedge Trail
stated she is concerned about the drainage of
the property, the increased drainage to the lake. The area is low and any additional runoff
needs to be handled very carefully.
Mark Danes
spoke on behalf of Betty Burnham on lot 15 the adjacent lot. He was concerned
with the drainage. The neighboring property has a basement and currently has water issues.
The height of the proposed house was also a concern.
Kay Minnich, 14390 Watersedge Trail
stated she has a lot about the same size as the
applicant. They built a new home recently and the foot print was able to fit on the lot without
variances. A 1,900 square foot house is not a modest house in her mind. The house foot print
should be sized down to fit on the lot.
Ike Iverson, 14329 Rutgers St
. stated the waterfront is for the association of Boudins Mannor.
Other homes in the area have been rebuilt larger, but combined on two lots to have more area.
Bev Lundgren, 14325 Rutgers St.
stated she built a home across from the proposed lot. The
proposed home is too large for the lot, and it will negatively affect the neighborhood.
Annette Thompson, 14349 Watersedge Trail
stated she wanted to build a cement patio for a
hot tub but was not allowed for impervious reasons. She asked whether the requested
impervious surface variance is 40 percent?
Roszak
responded that it is a 10.5 percent variance for the impervious surface.
Blahnik
asked Thompson if she knows her lot’s impervious surface percentage?
Thompson
responded no.
Bob Miller, 14359 Watersedge Trail
stated that the majority of the homes in that area were
built in the 1950s, and most probably have a lowest floor elevation of 906 or 905 feet. There
have always been water issues in the neighborhood. It is an old neighborhood that has a lot of
issues. When something new is to be built, it should conform with the rules in place. The
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regulations are there to protect the area and the lake. A more reasonable house should be
built to better fit within the requirements.
Linda Burnham, 14306 Watersedge Trail
. Stated her concerns of impervious surface, the
aesthetics of the neighborhood, and that the home will be built from the street to the lake.
There are three trees that are along the property that will likely be affected.
Earl Drangstveit, 14279 Rutgers
asked about current standard setbacks for the lot.
Planner Matzke
responded that a normal lot requires 10 feet for the sides, 75 feet from the
ordinary high water mark, and 25 feet from the street. On a non- conforming lot, the side yards
can total 15 feet as well as setback averaging from the ordinary high water mark up to 50 feet.
Drangstveit
asked if there are any fire issues for a house that close to a neighboring property?
Planner Matzke
responded not in this case no, the proposed building meets the fire code.
Drangstveit
stated that since 1983, he has lived in the neighborhood and has seen the water
levels be very high. His has concerns about impervious surface, and he stated that the home
owners in Boudins Manor have deeded access to the lake, and the access runs all the way
along the shoreline in front of the subject property.
Hite
asked if there is an association for this property and if anyone is present that represents
this group?
Drangstveit
responded that there is not a specific association for that area, but rather, he read
language from the deed that described the area along the shore.
Roszak
asked for further information about the waterfront?
Bob Miller
responded thatit is the waterfront in front of all the homes on the bay.
Mary Miller
stated she is a realtor and that some properties have lots that go out into the lake
and some go to the shoreline. Some lots have a platted area as public between the property
and the shoreline.
Ehtian
stated his concern with the rock wall and the drainage. He was also concerned with the
old trees along the property because it will be very difficult to not damage those trees. He
stated he is a builder, and he has never been allowed to go over the maximum impervious
surface percentage.
Blahnik
asked what his impervious surface area is for Lot 15, the square footage of his house,
and whether he has a basement?
Ehtain
responded that he did not know the impervious area or square footage, and he does
have a basement.
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Mike Von Arx, 14346 Rutgers
asked if gutters will be installed on the home since it is
important to have gutters to keep the runoff on the property.
Judith Paine, 14424 Watersedge Trail
stated she has a 40 foot lot. It is difficult to clean the
side of the house. Her home is a tight fit on the lot, and she felt that the proposed house would
not fit well on the lot.
MOTION BY ROSZAK SECOND BY BLAHNIK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:12
P.M.
VOTE: Ayes, Hite, Blahnik, and, Roszak. The motioned carried.
Commissioner Comments and Questions:
Hite
stated she appreciates all the residents coming out and voicing their opinions. This is a
non-conforming lot, and it is evaluated different than a conforming lot. It has been assessed
as a buildable lot. She said it is hard to see change, but it is a buildable lot and at some point
somebody will want to build on it. She felt there was not enough information to make a
decision tonight. She would like to have staff, specifically the city engineer, answer storm
water concerns. She also would like more information on the deed with the association as well
as a cut/pofile sheet that shows the elevations of the proposed house and retaining walls. Her
recommendation is to table the variance application.
Blahnik
stated that six variances are numerous for this lot. He is concerned with the side yard
setbacks and the runoff leaving the subject property and going onto the neighboring property.
He agrees with the front yard setback to increase the rear yard setback to the lake. This home
does seem consistent with the neighboring properties. His concerns are with the side yard
variances. Blahnik asked if the side yard setback variances were eliminated, would it
eliminate the building to building setback variance?
Planner Matzke
responded that if the building to building was eliminated on the garage side
then in might not be possible to eliminate the side yard setback variance.
Blahnik
stated he supports all variances but the side yard variance. Although it is a narrow
lot, he felt it is possible to eliminate the side yard setback.
Roszak
stated the variances in general are in harmony with the Comprehensive Plan. He has
concerns with impervious surface and where the water will go. He felt he needed more
information and would like to table this to another meeting.
Planner Matzke
asked commissioners to clearly list the requests for the applicant to bring to
the next meeting.
Hite
stated she would like to see a cut sheet showing the elevations, information about the
deed of the piece of property along the lake, and to have the city engineer present to discuss
stormwater.
Blahnik
stated he would like to see a rendering of a reduced house footprint by 4.4 feet to
meet the side yard setback and to reduce impervious surface.
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MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY HITE TO TABLE THE REQUESTED VARIANCES
TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH RESPONSES NEEDED TO THE FEEDBACK FROM
COMMISSIONERS.
VOTE: Ayes Blahnik, Hite, Roszak. The motion carried.
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Planner Matzke
stated the next anticipated planning commission meeting is April 29. The
public hearing has been closed so the public will not be notified of the meeting; however, the
agenda will be posted on the City’s website and in the Prior Lake American prior to the
meeting.
B. DEV-2013-1010 Welcome Avenue Stormwater Pond Variance. The City of Prior Lake is
requesting a variance to allow grading and vegetation removal within a bluff impact zone for
construction of a storm water pond in the I-1 (General Industrial) Zoning District. The subject
property is located north of CASH 21 at the end of Welcome Avenue.
Public Works Director Gehler
presented information that the city is proposing to construct a
stormwater pond to manage stormwater runoff from the planned Welcome Avenue Industrial
Development. The stormwater pond serves to protect Markley Lake from direct stormwater
runoff and associated water pollution risks; it is designed to meet current City design standards
that are protective of surface waters. The stormwater pond also incorporates approximately
41% of the compensatory flood storage volume that the City will create as a result of the
Markley Lake Study. The current City Ordinance prohibits intensive vegetation clearing within
the shore and bluff impact zones on steep slopes: the proposed stormwater pond would result
in intensive vegetation clearing within these regulated areas.
Planner Matzke
presented the variance criteria on which variances are evaluated by the
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Questions:
Hite
asked how you measure intensive vegetation clearing?
Planner Matzke
responded that it is somewhat subjective. The city looks at how much
grading will take place with 50% to 75% or more seen to be intensive.
Hite
asked what new grasses that will be planted to mimic 1937 grasses, and why was 1937
picked?
Director Gehler
responded that starting in 1937, the mining operations began to remove
native grasses and plant life. The goal is to have the oak savanna look that matches the other
natural areas nearby.
Blahnik
stated his support; it is necessary to re-grade the property and native vegetation will
be reinstalled
Roszak
stated his support; it makes sense to restore to natural plantings, and it is important
for water quality.
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Hite
stated her support; the property will be improved with this stormwater pond, and it will be
protecting the Wellhead area.
MOTION BY BLAHNIK SECOND BY HITE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE FROM THE
VEGETATION ALTERATION REQUIREMENTS OF A RECREATIONAL ENVIRONMENT
LAKE IN THE I-1 (GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT)
VOTE: Ayes Hite, Blahnik, and, Roszak. The motion carried.
5. Old Business:
None
6. New Business:
None
7. Announcements and Correspondence:
A: Recent City Council Discussions/decisions
Planner Matzke
presented an update on the current moratorium that is in place on the County
Road 42 corridor.
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Planner Matzke
stated the next meeting will be April 29 and in lieu of the 15 meeting; a
SCALE Legos meeting will be held from 4:30 – 6:30 that day at City Hall.
8. Adjournment:
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY ROSZAK TO ADJORN THE MEETING.
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Hite, and Blahnik. The Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 7:46 p.m.
Peter Aldritt, Community Development Assistant
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