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PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, July 1, 2013
1. Call to Order:
Acting Chairman Roszak called the July 1, 2013 Planning Commission meeting to order at
6:00 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Roszak, Blahnik and Hite, Planner Jeff Matzke,
Community and Economic Development Director Dan Rogness, Engineer Seng Thongvanh,
Engineer Peter Young, and Community Development Assistant Peter Aldritt.
2. Approval of Agenda:
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO APPROVE THE JULY 1, 2013 MEETING
AGENDA
VOTE: Ayes, Blahnik, Hite, and Roszak. The Motion carried.
3. Consider Approval of June 17, 2013 Meeting Minutes:
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO APPROVE THE JUNE 17, 2013 MEETING
MINUTES WITH A FEW GRAMITICAL CHANGES.
VOTE: Ayes, Hite, Blahnik, and Roszak. The Motion carried.
4. Public Hearings:
A. DEV-2013-0007 Bluffs of Shady Beach Preliminary Plat & P.U.D. Greg Schweich on behalf
of Copper Creek Development is proposing a Preliminary Plat and P.U.D. development
consisting 22 lots on an 8.09 acre parcel to be known as the “Bluffs of Shady Beach”. The
subject site is located south of County Road 42 north of Shady Beach Trail between Birchwood
Ave and Meadow Ave.
Planner Matzke
presented that
Copper Creek Development has applied for approval of a Planned
Unit Development (PUD) and approval of a Preliminary Plat to be known as the Bluffs of Shady Beach.
The property is located south of County Highway 42 between Shady Beach Trail and Aspen Ave. The
proposal calls for a subdivision of the property into 22 lots and 2 outlots for the development of single
family homes.
Engineer Thongvanh
presented on the grading and topography of the site. He discussed
stormwater and the proposal of the two stormwater ponds. The storm water ponds have been
oversized to receive additional water from surrounding property. This is part of the benefit that
the developer is providing the city in support of a PUD. He reviewed the street connections,
including recommendations city staff has made to the developer for the different connections.
Planner Matzke
stated the developer has submitted an alternative concept plan; however,
staff has not had time to fully review it.
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Commissioner Questions:
Blahnik
asked about the percent of tree removal being done.
Planner Matzke
responded about 70 percent.
Blahnik
asked why the alternative plan is being proposed?
Planner Matzke
responded that the developer will go into more detail; it is another design
alternative.
Hite
asked about the pond that would collect additional water from the north and whether that
water currently goes directly into the lake?
Engineer Thongvanh
responded yes; the site sheet drains across property to the lake.
Hite
asked whether the proposed pond would treat water from the new homes as well as the
existing ones.
Engineer Thongvanh
stated yes.
Hite
asked about traffic counts.
Engineer Thongvanh
responded that no counts exist, but that is something that could be
looked at.
Hite
asked if it common to have a double frontage lots?
Planner Matzke
responded there are some properties that back up to a collector road for the
second frontage. For example, properties along Crest Ave have double frontage.
Hite
asked whether the double frontage lots would deviate from the current standard lot size
and whether that allows him to save some trees for a buffer to Shady Beach?
Planner Matzke
responded yes.
Hite
asked if the developer could conform those lots by removing those trees and reducing the
buffer to Shady Beach?
Planner Matzke
responded yes, possibly.
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY HITE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:28
P.M.
VOTE: Ayes, Hite, Blahnik, and, Roszak. The motioned carried.
Applicant Greg Schweich
presented on his proposed alternative concept plan. He stated
that after listening to the neighbors, he made some changes to the road connections. He felt
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strongly as a long time Prior Lake resident that it is important to work together as a community
and listen to neighbors. He will continue to work with city staff on some of the small
engineering comments, but feels this plan is a better overall design.
Blahnik
asked whether the lots on the revised plan are the same number as the original plan?
Applicant Schweich
responded that the original 22 lots are reduced to 21 lots.
Blahnik
asked how many lots do not meet the minimum standards?
Applicant Schweich
responded he did not have the exact number.
Hite
stated she had closely reviewed the original plans to prepare for tonight’s discussion and
was caught off guard by the proposed plan. She could better discuss the alternative if it had
been given to staff in enough time to review and all the information was there to assist in her
decision process.
Roszak
asked for more explanation of the new cul-de-sac design.
Applicant Schweich
responded that the road bed can be raised, which allows the south lots
to be look-outs or maybe walk-outs. Whereas with the other design, most of those homes
would have been tuck-under.
Public Comment:
Sylvester Hommerding, 5901 Cedarwood St
. stated his concern on the steep grades
eroding and the houses not being stable in the development.
Brian Lompart, 14223 Shady BeachTrail
stated his concerns on the increased traffic. He
was in support of the alternative plan. He asked if the trees could be saved or preserved along
Shady Beach.
Bob Kelly, 14277 Shady Beach Trail
stated his concern on the sewer connection and the
increased sewer flow. The elevation changes are significant and the water runoff is substantial.
How will the existing lots be protected from the additional runoff?
Janine Alcorn, 14283 Shady Beach Trail
she stated her concern on the runoff and the
increased traffic. She asked about the holding pond aesthetics. The current roads are in poor
condition and need to be updated. Preserving the trees is also a concern.
Roger Kamin, 14253 Shady Beach Trail
stated his concern on the additional road connection
and the traffic that would be caused. He thought the new proposal is better. He would like to
see the trees preserved, especially along Shady Beach Trail. It would be much better to have
larger lots.
Keith Randa, 14112 BayviewCircle
stated his concern in regard to the ravine and how the
grading on the property would tie into that. He was concerned with tree removal; the trees
should be preserved. The traffic flow and road connections need to be closely considered.
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Norma Tschida, 14837 Estate Ave
stated her concerns about the tree removal and that the
developer will take care of the empty lots until they are occupied.
Vicki Cirillo, 14166 Aspen Ave
stated her concerns about the tree removal and the
preservation of the natural life on the property.
Louis Skoczek, 14174 Aspen Ave
stated his concern about the increased traffic. He asked if
there be a 35 foot barrier behind Aspen Avenue as a buffer.
Jilleen Cade, 14138 Orchard Circle
stated her concern about the increased traffic and asked
if a trail system could be incorporated in the development. There is a lot of great nature on the
property.
Harry Alcorn, 14283 Shady Beach Trail
stated his concerns on the access points, road
connections and the increased traffic.
John Hewitt, 14100 Meadow Ave
stated his concern about the wildlife on the subject site.
Marlin Sabourin, 14320 Shady Beach Trail
stated the second proposed plan is an
improvement from the original plan in regard to lot design and road connections. He was
concerned with the wildlife and tree removal.
Brian Roth, 14271 Shady Beach Trail
stated concerns on the traffic and safety on Shady
Beach Trail.
Colleen Hurlbert, 5754 Birchwood Ave
stated her concern on the road connections and the
increased traffic.
Joan Lompart, 14223 Shady Beach Trail
stated concerns on the smaller lots; she believes
that larger lots would be better.
Roszak
asked if the public hearing can be continued.
Planner Matzke
responded yes, that is up to the Planning Commission.
Hite
stated she would be in favor of continuing the public hearing. The residents should have
the opportunity to come back when the second submitted plan can be fully reviewed.
Blahnik
stated he would be in favor as well of tabling the public hearing and the project. He
appreciated the developer modifying the plan from the original concept plan and listening to
the neighbors’ concerns and comments. He liked that the revised plan had larger lot sizes with
less lots deviating from the minimum standard. The shorter lot depth does make sense with
the type of topography that is on the site. He was concerned with the tree preservation along
Shady Beach. He would like some way to assure they could be preserved so that
homeowners are not able to cut them down just to view the lake. He asked if the city is only
concerned with significant trees.
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Planner Matzke
responded yes, the amount of caliper inches counted is from significant trees
listed in the City’s Ordinance.
Blahnik
asked whether the two stub streets off Aspen are currently public.
Engineer Thongvanh
responded yes.
Blahnik
asked if this second alternative were to go through, could either of those be removed?
Engineer Thongvanh
responded yes, we could look at that. It does seem that it would be
fairly easy to run curb and gutter along Aspen Avenue.
Roszak
stated that he agreed with his fellow commissioners.
Hite
stated that the commission wants to see this development done right. It is crucial that the
applicant take the time to submit all the proper material to insure that staff can fully review it
and provide a detailed report.
Planner Matzke
stated with the public hearing being kept open it needs to be tabled to a
specific date. There has been discussion with the developer that he would be ready by the July
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15 meeting.
Roszak
asked whether additional notices go out.
Planner Matzke
responded no.
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Applicant Schweich
stated they could be ready by the 15.
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Hite
felt the 15 seems tight, especially in light of the upcoming holiday; there is still a lot of
information that needs to be submitted and staff needs time to review this. She stated a traffic
report should be done as well.
Engineer Thongvanh
responded that it will be tight to review, but staff can do its best if the
developer gets the plans in on time.
Applicant Schweich
stated the revisions are minor. He felt that his team could get the
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revised plans in and additional information by July 15.
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MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY HITE TO TABLE ITEM 4A UNTIL THE JULY 15
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Spieler, Roszak and Hite. The motion carried.
B. EP13-103 Markley Lake Bluff Variance. The City of Prior Lake is requesting a variance to
allow grading within a bluff impact zone for construction of lake compensatory storage area in
the I-1 (General Industrial) Zoning District.
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Planner Matzke
presented the variance request is in conjunction with the Markley Lake
Woods project and the Welcome Ave improvement project. The City is acquiring additional
land to assist with the flooding to Markley Lake as it is a land locked basin.
Water Resources Engineer Pete Young
presented the City of Prior Lake, on behalf of Peter
Knaeble, owner of the proposed Markley Lake Woods development, is requesting a variance
from the City’s vegetation alterations requirements on a property located adjacent to Markley
Lake, north of County State Aid Highway 21. The parcel (PID #259010230) currently has no
permanent structures. The variance from the prohibition of intensive vegetation clearing within
the shore and bluff impact zones and on steep slopes adjacent to Markley is being requested.
The applicant proposes to construct a compensatory flood storage area adjacent to Markley
Lake. The proposed compensatory flood storage area includes approximately 8% of the
compensatory flood storage volume (1.5 acre-feet) that the City will create as a result of the
Markley Lake Study. The current City Ordinance prohibits intensive vegetation clearing within
the shore and bluff impact zones and on steep slopes; the proposed project would result in
intensive vegetation clearing within these regulated areas.
Planner Matzke
presented on the variance criteria and how the project meets the criteria.
Commissioner Questions:
Hite
asked if the Markley Lake flood storage area is smaller because of the Welcome Avenue
flood storage?
Engineer Young
responded the pond is sized as large as it can to be fit in that area and that
the grades will allow.
Hite
asked if it is needed to alleviate flood storage from the residents?
Engineer Young
responded yes; this pond is needed to keep the surrounding homes from
flooding.
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Blahnik
asked if Markley Lake is not being expanded, will it just have a small pond next to it?
Engineer Young
responded there will be a pond separated by a berm at a set elevation; when
the water reaches that elevation it will then spill into the holding pond.
Planner Matzke
responded that as more development occurs, there will be more run-off, and
the lake levels will change more directly.
Roszak
asked about maintenance on this pond.
Engineer Young
responded there is maintenance costs, but this is needed for the City’s
stormwater infrastructure. A maintenance plan will be established for the pond.
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:46
P.M.
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Blahnik, and Hite. The motion carried.
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Commissioner Comments:
Blahnik
is in support of the variance; there are practical difficulties given the narrow nature of
the topography.
Hite
stated support for the variance; there are practical difficulties, and this is a practical
location for the pond to meet the stormwater needs.
Roszak
stated support of the variance; there are practical difficulties and this is needed for
stormwater storage.
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE FOR
GRADING IN A BLUFF IMPACT ZONE OF A RECREATIONAL ENVIRONMENT LAKE IN
THE I-1 (GENERAL INDUSTRIAL) ZONING DISTRICT.
VOTE: Ayes Hite, Roszak, and Blahnik. The motion carried.
5. Old Business:
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A. DEV-2013-0006 Heritage Landing 2 Addition Combined Preliminary/Final Plat and
P.U.D. Amendment. Tradition Development is proposing an amendment to the Heritage
Landing PUD to re plat 7 attached lots to 5 detached lots. The subject property is located in
the south east part of Prior Lake, west of County Road 23 east of Turner Drive and south of
T.H. 13 off of Heritage Lane.
Planner Matzke
On May 20, 2013 the Planning Commission held a public hearing to consider
the PUD Amendment and Combined Preliminary and Final Plat. Members of the Heritage
Landing Homeowners Association were present and expressed both optimism to see activity in
the development as well as concerns regarding the architectural style and marketability on the
proposed detached housing units. They also explained that the HOA had not yet voted on
whether to accept the detached design according to the homeowner’s covenants. At the
meeting the Planning Commission voted to table the discussion of the item until the
Homeowners Association vote could take place. The homeowner’s votes were cast on or
around Thursday, May 30, 2013. On June 3, 2013 the Planning Commission continued their
discussion of the item; however, City Staff had not been given an official decision by the
homeowner’s association. Therefore the Planning Commission voted to once again table
discussion of the item to a future meeting pending the result of the homeowner’s association
decision. On June 21, 2013 the City received the attached copy of the homeowner’s
association approval to amend the covenants to allow the conversion of the 7 attached units to
the 5 detached units.
Hite
asked whether the five individual homes as townhomes should be referred to as single
family homes?
Planner Matzke
responded a townhome can be a single family home as well.
Hite
stated her support for the project. It very closely matches the originally proposed
development. Impervious surface is decreasing and the artistic renderings very closely match
what is there.
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Blahnik
asked about the lot take-down schedule and the process of how the homes will get
built.
Applicant Rob St. Sauver, Tradition Development
responded this re-plat allows them to not
have the financial burden of the attached units. It provides them with greater flexibility. For
example, if the current builder falls through, Tradition Development could pick it up and build
them. The design would not change from what is being proposed today.
Blahnik
stated his concerns that the design would change and there were a lot of comments
from the public hearing with similar concerns. He thanked the developer for clarifying.
Blahnik
asked about the final vote.
Applicant St. Sauver
responded 23 yes, 9 no, out of 32 total votes.
Blahnik
stated his approval for the major amendment.
Roszak
stated his approval for the project.
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY ROSZAK TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A
COMBINED PRELIMINARY/FINAL PLAT AND A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE FINAL PUD
PLAN FOR HERITAGE LANDING.
VOTE: Roszak, Blahnik, and Hite. The motion carried.
6. New Business:
A. DEV-2013-1018 Elliason and Hejhal Vacation. Jim Elliason and Pat Hejhal are
requesting to vacate a portion of the Butternut Circle & Northwood Rd right of way located
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adjacent to 16553 Northwood Rd and 3121 Butternut Circle
Planner Matzke
presented Jim Elliason and Patricia Hejhal are requesting vacation of a
portion of right-of-way along frontage of the properties at 16653 Northwood Road and 3121
Butternut Circle. The properties are located along the western shores of Upper Prior Lake,
north of County State Aid Highway 12. Much of the right of way for the public street,
Northwood Road and Butternut, was platted with the Northwood plat in 1911. In addition
roadway easements were granted in 1977. As indicated by the attached survey, the paved
roadway of Northwood road does not follow the platted right-of-way alignment in this area.
Utility lines, both public and private are located in proximity to this roadway corridor.
CenterPoint Energy has identified a concern in regards to the location of the gas line within the
platted right-of-way, however, they do indicate that the granting of an easement in place of the
current road right-of-way for their gas main line would alleviate their concern. A condition of
approval has been attached to City Staff’s recommendations requiring that an easement be
granted by the property owners which would be sufficient for the maintenance of the
CenterPoint Energy gas main.
Commissioner Comments:
Blahnik
asked if the garage is in an easement?
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Planner Matzke
responded that piece was vacated years ago; the pie shape piece is what is
under consideration.
Hite
asked if it is required that the property owners grant an easement to CenterPoint?
Planner Matzke
responded it could be a contingency that the final approval includes the
easement.
Hite
asked whether the property owners will pay for the recording of the easement.
Planner Matzke
responded yes.
Roszak
stated his support.
Blahnik
stated his support if the easement is granted for CenterPoint Energy.
Hite
stated her support; the vacation of the existing easement does comply with the
Comprehensive Plan.
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY ROSZAK TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE
VACATION SUBJECT TO THE GRANTING OF THE EASEMENT.
VOTE: Ayes Roszak, Blahnik, Hite. The motion carried.
7. Announcements and Correspondence:
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Director Rogness
presented items from the June 24 City Council Meeting.
8. Adjournment:
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY ROSZAK TO ADJORN THE MEETING.
VOTE: Ayes, Roszak, Hite and Blahnik. The Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Peter Aldritt, Community Development Assistant
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