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MIdUTES of the Proceedings of the Cit, Council of the City.of Prior Lake in the
County of Scott and State of Minnesota; including all accounts audited by
said Council.
-' November 21, 1983
The Common Council _of , the City of Prior Lake met in regular session on Monday,
November 21, 1983 at „7:30 PM in the City Council Chambers. Mayor Stock called
the meeting to 'order. Present were Mayor Stock, Councilmembers Busse, Schweich,
Scott, Thorkelson, City Manager McGuire, City Planner Graser and City Attorney
Kessel.
Mayor Stock asked everyone to please rise for the pledge of allegiance.
The.minutes of November 14, 1983 were reviewed.
"# Minutes $ Motion "by to approve the minutes of November 14, 1983 as 'submitted
invoices and the list of invoices scheduled for payment on Tuesday, November 22, 1983
- as submitted, seconded by Busse and,upon a vote taken it was duly passed.
The next item on,the agenda was to review and listen to presentations on
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the two proposed sites for horse racing. Mayor Stock asked Mr. Ray Formanek
to make his presentation first and Mr.,Gary Eastland to make his after. Both
presents *ions were limited to one - half hour.
Mr. Ray "Formanek reviewed the proposed Savage Site at Highway 13 and,County
Road 16.
Mr., Thorbeck, the Planner for the Savage Site went into more detail on
' the proposed site. `
Mayor Stock thanked Mr. F and Mr. Thorbeck. He asked Gary Eastland
to review the'proposed Shakopee Site.
Mr. Gary Eastland presented numerous exhibits on the'Shakopee Site.
Mr. Malkerson, the Attorney for Scottland Inc. reviewed the legal aspects
and compared this site as .being :set up like,,Santa Anita.
Mayor Stock asked if 'there were any'other comments or questions.
There were none.
Mayor Stock closed this portion of,the presentations and asked the Council _
for their _questibnsoand comments.
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Councilmember Schweich forwarded his first question to the Savage Site. 'He
asked if they had contacted MNDOT about the situation,on Highway 13 as
proposed. ,
Mr stated that it.was his understanding that there would be an
upgrading of Highway 13. The State of Minnesota already owns the easements
on Highway 13. It will be made into'a two lane highway each way.
Councilmember Schweich asked to what point.
Mr. F stated that,it' would be brought up to at least the race track
or County 42.
" Councilmember Schweich asked 4f, t would then be a controlled intersection
at the intersection of Highway 13 'and County Road 16.
The Attorney for the Savage Site stated that all of this is`it a preliminary
basis, the EIS has not been completed at this time and we would not;be able
to answer all questions based on this.
' Counci•lmember Schweich Chen -asked if the City of Savage Is proposing to re -'
' zone and give conditional uses for on -site • g improvements.
-Mr. FormanekMstated that if it would'be necessary it would be done.
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Mr. Veiling asked about the disposal of the manure. `
,£ Mr. Malkerson stated that there would be'many ways of disposal. Contacting
f local farmers or composts would be two forms of disposal.
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MINUTES of the Proceeding's of the City Council of the City of Prior Lake in the
County of Scott and State of Minnesota, including all accounts audited by'.
said Council'
Councilmember Thorkelson asked that both developers discuss with the
Council the proposed impact on Prior Lake, both the negative and positive.
Also how they would propose to work with the City of Prior Lake, Council,
Planning Commission, Economic Development Committee and private developers
to see that these impacts are a benefit to our community.
Mr. Formanek commented first. He stated that the proposed.racing site
is within the School District of Prior Lake. For tax purposes it would
enhance Prior Lake. Also we have about 1500 acres for development from
Highway 101 to Highway 13 on both sides of the highway and after talking,.
with the developers, they indicated to me that they are willing to go ahead
around the race track site with commercial and industrial type buildings
that would generate'monies possibly into the City. He made further comments.
Mr. Malkerson then commented. He stated that if the race track comes Into,
Scott County there would be additional tax base. We are estimating that
- the.additionali tax base will be approximately $60 million. $60.milli6n
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will help defray the cost of the County, hopefully lessen the amount the
City pays to the County also. The possibility of spin --off recreational
activities and fobs will be created for the people of Scott County. The
traffic that will be coming to the Shakopee Site will be coming down Highway
101 across County Road 18 and some will cross on County Road 42, we will
not be clogging you main artery to the north which is Highway 13. If the ,
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City is looking for traffic passing through., you would not get much from ''
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either site. 90% of the people will be coming from the north on either site
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and 10% would be coming in from out of town.
Mayor Stock then asked the Savage Site about the ares of expertise. In
the areas of traffic management and others, will.these' people be employees
under you or are they under a contract. How are you preceding with those
other areas that you are going to need assistance from rather then the
planner and attorney.
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Mr. Formanek stated that they are working with the City Engineer and Planner.
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Mr. Thorbeck made further comments to the Council.
Ma or Stock asked if the were of the opinion at this time, that n endorse-
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ment is needed on the part of cities ir,,general of any of the sites that
are petitioning for a Class A License.
The Attorney for the Savage Site stated that as.Mr. Malkerson stated, the ..
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only requirement of approval is a public hearing that must be held in the
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City or township in which the track is to be located.
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Mayor Stock then asked Mr. Malkerson that in lieu of the fact, Mr. Formanek,
suggested that it _would really be premature on the part of the City Council's
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to give an endoresement, what would be his position in regards to this request.
Mr. Malkerson stated that we communicated first with Savage, Prior Lake, and
the other cities in Scott County not to say that we are better than anybody
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else. We communicated because we wanted to tell you who we were, what we,
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wanted to try to accomplish, what the project was to answer an
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that "you might have about the impact of our proposal on your community, what
we can do. enhance your community because we hope to be part of this •.
community. During this process there has been questions about endorsing^
one site over the other or endorsing a site and not say'its - to the exclusion
of any other but to at least to endorse a site with which you.feel comfortable
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with. We have gone before the Scott County Board and they have endorsed
this site. We would hole for an endorsement from you but we are not saying
that the whole thing will fall apart without your endorsement.
There were further comments by the two developers and their attorneys.`
Mayor Stock asked the Savage Site Planner, regarding the Dan Patch Lake, wh'
Is the status of the lake as far as the DNB's position.
Mr. Thorbeck stated that it is classifiEd as a shoreline management lake.
he could not answer any other questions regarding the DNR's position.
Councilmember Busse asked Mr. Malkerson about the percentage of tax that would
be generated to the Cities..
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Road 42. Highway 13 is considered our life line. The increase n tra c
could adversely affect Prior Lake and may require upgrading. County Road 42,
in our Comprehensive'Plan is a collector facility. He stated that "he could
see a demand for commercial activity along thbt segment if the race track
is located in Shakopee.
Mayor Stock asked if there.were any other quesitons or comments.
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There were none.
Mayor Stock stated Ghat at this time he, would ask the Council for their position
as they see it,,,in regards to the Savage and Shakopee Sites
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Mr. Malkerson stated that about 4 to 41% would be generated to all taxing
authorities in Scott County.
Councilmember Scott asked about the drainage that would be going into
Dan Patch Lake. She stated that there are two culverts that go under
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Highway 13 from the location of the proposed Site into the Dan Patch Lake
already.
Mr. Thorbeck, stated that it would have to be checked into, he was not aware
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Councilmember Scott then asked about the precautions that would')be;..taken
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that the drainage would not go into Prior Lake.
Mr. Thorbeck stated that there is a very large watershed area that the water
is�_going into now. We would also be doing some grading so that the water
would leach into the ground and not drain off to Prior Lake,
Councilmember Scott asked about the residential area that is on the South
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Side. What type of screening would be used.
Mr. Thorbeck stated that they have propose the dorms for that area and other
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Councilmember'Busse asked about; the stacking of traffic on Highway 13.
Mr. Thorbeck stated that the details of that are still preliminary. He made
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further comments.
Mayor Stock then asked for either developer to comment on, when their specific
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proposal, will be presented to the racing' commission. "
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Mr. Malkerson stated that the rules provide that within 14 days after the rules
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become effective, everyone shall apply otherwise they're out. No;one4 will
be able to.make a formal application prior to that time. There has been some
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discussion that perhaps the racing commission would entertain conceptional
review plans earlier so that they have abetter understanding of what they may
be seeing later. The rules provide if they are adopted, that within 14 days
after adoption everyone submits and=that is the cut off.
Mayor Stock asked if the anticipated 'time is April.
Mr. Malkerson stated yes that is approximately the time.
City Planner Graser asked about services that are necessary with a proposal
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such as this. How would it affect Prior take in terms of needed services,
restaurants, hotels etc;., is there enough, what type of activity would we be
looking at.
Mr. Formanek stated that he would be looking at least 2 hotels and other- rest-
aurants. He 'made further comments.
Mr. Malkerson stated that whether the site is in Savage or Shakopee, the
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mould be that the hotels will be to the'north of either site. The
Shakopee Site will have at least 2 restaurants located within the track.
City Planner Graser state& that he was concerned about Highway 13 and County o
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Road 42. Highway 13 is considered our life line. The increase n tra c
could adversely affect Prior Lake and may require upgrading. County Road 42,
in our Comprehensive'Plan is a collector facility. He stated that "he could
see a demand for commercial activity along thbt segment if the race track
is located in Shakopee.
Mayor Stock asked if there.were any other quesitons or comments.
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There were none.
Mayor Stock stated Ghat at this time he, would ask the Council for their position
as they see it,,,in regards to the Savage and Shakopee Sites
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Councilmember Schweich stated that he felt that both sites would
enhance all of Scott County. He felt that one particular site should
not be endorsed but both sites should be.
Thorkelson stated that he agreed that either site would
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be an asset to Scott County. Either site would bean asset to Prior Lake,
However,_ the Savage Site would be a,great deteriment as far as our traffic
is concerned. Highway 13, because of the hill and the turnoffs at County
Road 42Cand- Highway 101 are 'presently a traffic problem. The Shakopee
Site would bring traffic away from the normal commuter traffic flow ° and
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wouldn't have a severe impact'. He further stated that he felt that we
should, the Shakopee Site at this point.
Councilmember Busse also stated that at this point he would have to support
the Shakopee Site.
Councilmember Scott stated that at thisgiven'point she would also be in
favor of the Shakopee Site. However, she felt that we should just endorse
a site in Scott County and leave it Open.
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Mayor Stock complemented troth developers on their presentation,`both are
doing a excellent job in that regard.' However, his opinion would have to
be based on the impacts to the City of Prior Lake. -After -further comments,
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he also supported.the'site being in Shakbpee, although both sites would be
a benefit to Scott County and would recommend that they both continue in
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efforts with the racing commission.
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After further discussion b Council C ouncil and Staff, motion;,by Thorkelson to
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direct City Manager McGuire to prepare a resolution ranking the sites as
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Shakopee 11 and Savage f2 and to endorse them in that order also that
horse racing.
City Manager McGuire bring this resolution back to the 'Council at the
next 'scheduled meeting for final adoption, seconded by Busse and upon a
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vote 'taken it was passed. Councilmember Schweech abstained from voting.
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Mayor Stock called a`three minute recess.
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Mayor Stock called'the meeting back to order at 9:30 PM. "
The next item-on-,the agenda was to discuss Gas Pumps at Watzls Point.
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City Manager McGuire reviewed the memorandum from Bill Mangan.
Gene White was present to 'comment. He, did not feel that the City should,.
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be involved ,in something like this. He further stated that he would..r ke
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an agrecOwnt.with the City to put in temporary pumps if and when would
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be necessary. �
There was further discussion by Council.:and Mr.,White
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Motion by Thorkelson to direct -`Park Director ,Mangan.to not.- implement that
portion of the park plan and to review it at a future date if the need
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aris`es, seconded by Scott and upon a vote -taken .it was duly passed.
'The next item_ nn the agenda was a request from Bart Porter for an extension
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of time to complete his home.
Mayor Stock `asked Mr. Porter.-to comment on his request.
Mr. Porter explained the request for time extension. 'He further stated that
he himself would be living in !this house and would like It to be done ,
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?here was discussion by Council and Staff. •
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Cit y contingencies made `Planner Graser reviewed the recommendation and b t
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Planning Commission and Council.
Mayor�Stock asked Mr. Porter how much time would he need in order to complete
ALL the work.
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Mr. Porter was not too sure how long it would take to complete everything.
4bece was further discussion by Council and Staff,
Bart Porter s Motion by Thorkelson that Mr. Porter cleanup the exterior within his original 1.
}^ house clean- time frame which was December 1983, also that the backfilling and temporary
.l'r UP - driveway be installed,_ extend for the purpose of making the house livable to
the interior to April 15, 1984 and for the exterior such as sod, seeding and
T paving of the driveway to June 15, 1984, seconded by Busse and upona vote taken �.
it was duly passed. �.
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The next item on the agenda was the monthly reports.
Fire " Rescue Motion by Thorkelson to approve the Fire and Rescue Report as. submitted, r
o port seconded by Busse and upon a vote ,taken it was duly passed..
olice Report Motion by Busse to approve the Police Report as submitted, seconded by j
Thorkelson and upon a vote taken it was duly passed.
Building Permi Vbtion by Busse to approve the Building Permit report as submitted, seconded
Repor by Scott`and. upon a vote taken it was duly passed.
Dog Catchers Motion by Thorkelson to approve the Dog Catchers Report as.submitted, ,E n
Report seconded by Busse and upon a vote taken it was duly passed.
Mayor Stock then reviewed.a letter from Bob McAllister requesting that the j
City of Prior Lake consider an increase in the boarding fee.
Mayor Stock directed City Manager to review the letter from Mr. McAllister i
.x and to report back at the next Council meeting as to the method.the Council 4
°would use in establishing the proposed rate schedule for boarding.'
City Manager McGuire reviewed an agreement between the City, of Prior Lake
'and the New Library.
City Attorney Kassel recommended two changes to the agreement..
Agreement 'W /``'Notion by Thorkelson to authorize the _Mayor and City Manager to enter into
new library the agreement after the necessary changes are made to the agreement, seconded
. by Busse and upon•ia vote taken it was duly passed.
Councilmember Thorkelson commented on the drainage on Crest-Avenue.
City Manager stated that it was graded today. It will be a problem
if we get another rain before freeze -up, but it will be watched by the
Maintenance`Department.
There was discussion by Council and Staff.,
Councilmeiber Schweich asked about the lessees in the New. Library Building.
Mayor Stock'read a letter that he received from Mary Manhan, DFL -State
Chairperson He then commented on the letter. t,
Mayor "Stodc,then, reviewed an informational memorandum regardinq control
elevation of the lake outlet.
Mayor Stock directed City Manager McGuire, to prepare the proper resolution
in support of the Watershed Board memorandum for the,.next Council meeting. "'
With no -other comments,' motion by Scott to adjourn, seconded by Stock and upon
a vote taken this meeting was adjourned at 10;30 PM.'
Adjod ent Michael A. McGuire
10:30 P.M. City Manager
Jakki K. Menk
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