HomeMy WebLinkAbout060297 Regular REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
Date: June 2, 1997
1. CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Andren called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Present
were: Mayor Andren, Councilmembers Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, City
Manager Boyles, Assistant City Manager Tremere, City Attorney Brokl, Planning
Director Rye, Planner Kansier, Public Works Director Ilkka, Public Works Supervisor
Hartman and Recording Secretary Oden.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: The Mayor led the Pledge of Allegiance and welcomed
everyone to the meeting.
3. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES:
· Councilmember Mader said there should be a change on page four, the first bullet talks Minutes
about continuing the public heating to June 2nd, 1997. The top bullet and the bottom one Revision
go together. On pages 10, 11, and 12 there were very detailed comments on the minutes.
He said following the Mayor's discussion, when the motion was made and seconded, he
was told that he had already had opportunity to discuss the matter. He said the minutes
should reflect that he had not been allowed to speak.. On page 14, it talks about receiving
a letter, he said that it was appropriate to indicate who received the letter. He said it
should reflect whether anyone knew anything about the letter concerning annexation. It
should be noted that Councilmember Schenck, not Mader, said the letter was from Emie
Peacock.
· In reference to page 12, Mayor Andren said that Councilmember Mader should look at
the minutes, and should realize what the issues were. If he did not like a decision of the
Chair to call the question, he could move a motion to overrule the chair. She said the two
issues for Council consideration were the Joint Resolution and the Three Party
Agreement. She said there was very little to discuss. He had already stated his position at
length that he would not support the agreement and the resolution.
· Councilmember Mader said it was difficult to state his position when he was not allowed
to speak..
· Mayor Andren said he should familiarize himself with the bylaws in motioning to
overrule the chair.
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Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, abstention Greenfield,
the motion carded.
4. CONSENT AGENDA:
A. Consider Approval of Invoices to be Paid.
B. Consider Approval of Animal lVarden Report for April.
C. Consider Approval of Contract for Employee Assistance Program Services to
NES.
D. Consider Approval of State of Minnesota Department of Natural Resources Local
Grants Program Project Agreement for Ponds Athletic Complex Expansion.
E. Consider Approval of Temporary 3.2 Liquor License for Prior Lake Athletics for
Youth (P.L.A.Y.)
F. Consider Approval of Recycling Grant Agreement with Scott County and
Schedule 1997 Fall Clean-Up Day.
G. Consider Approval of Building Report for April
Councilmember Mader asked for the removal of items 4C and 4G from the
Consent Agenda.
MOTION BY GREENFIELD SECOND BY KEDROWSKI TO APPROVE
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS A, B, D, E, F.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded.
5. PRESENTATIONS:
A. Mayor Lee Andren, Presentation of Plaque to Retiring Police Chief Dick Powell. Retirement,
Dick Powell
City Manager Boyles thanked Police Chief Dick Powell for his 23 years of service
to the City of Prior Lake. Mayor Andren presented the plaque before the Council.
Chief Powell was honored in his absence.
B. Abdo, Abdo, and Eick 1996 Audit Report and Management Letter Audit Report -96
Abdo & Eick
City Manager Boyles introduced the item, a Financial Report and Management
Letter as prepared by the certified public accountant finn of Abdo, Abdo and
Eick. The audit was conducted in accordance with generally accepted auditing
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standards and represents an independent opinion of the financial results and status
of the City of Prior Lake during the year 1996.
· Mr. Eick of Abdo, Abdo, and Eick presented the report. He said they provided
analysis in a separate letter. He said pages four and five addressed issues
regarding the general fund. The reserve was 30%. He said it was important to
point out how it came about. Property taxes, the City's primary revenue source, is
received in two payments each year. He said a significant portion of the general
fund reserve is needed to finance City operations at the beginning of the year. He
said the City needed it there at the beginning of the year to keep things going
rather than wait for the arrival of other fimds. One question has arisen regarding
the increase. The increase of 15.5% over 1995 is that it includes transfers to other
funds. He said the City Council met in 1996 to approve 1995 transfers. He said
without the transfer, the increase would have been only 7%. He mentioned the
firm supports the equipment revolving fund, which helps keep a level budget. He
said the City should think about establishing a revolving CIP fund in the future.
· Councilmember Greenfield asked about page 21, the legal debt margin, what is
the significance of the 2%.
· Mr. Eick said the 2% debt amount complied with Minnesota Statutes, and is
measured against market value. The general obligation debt is not supported by
special assessments or property taxes.
· Councilmember Greenfield said would it improve our situation for bond rating?
· Finance Director Teschner said approval of the referendum would not affect the
City's credit rating by Moody's. At this point in time, the City is scheduling a
very aggressive debt retirement schedule. The City's bond rating is quite strong.
· Councilmember Kedrowski asked Finance Director Teschner about collecting tax
funds for transfer payments to Minnesota Valley Transit Authority.
· Finance Director Teschner said the levy on behalf of MVTA will be shown as an
expenditure in 1997.
· Councilmember Kedrowski said last year at the tax hearing, a number of residents
complained that there was a slush fund. He said the residents who were at the
heating should receive the management report.
Directive
MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY ANDREN TO DIRECT STAFF TO Truth in
SEND THE STAFF'S AUDIT REPORT AND MANAGEMENT LETTER TO Taxation
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ALL THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE 1996 TRUTH IN TAXATION
HEARING.
Councilmember Mader said people were not saying there were slush funds. He
said there was a discussion of surplus, but he said we should not send out the
wrong information to those who were at the hearing.
· Councilmember Kedrowski said it was his impression that people thought money
was not being used appropriately, and they should get a copy of the management
letter and financial statement.
· Councilmember Greenfield said the City Council might want to express the
language of the report in layman's terms, and there should be a letter of
clarification.
· Mayor Andren said another piece of information is when quarterly budget reports
are done, the report describes how all the money is used. Truth in Taxation
hearing attendees should have that as well. The calls she received were fi:om
people wanting to know why $11 million dollars were sitting there.
Mayor Andren called the question.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carried.
Councilmember Schenck asked about the 30% reserve and whether it is too much.
· Mr. Eick said his firm actually suggests 40-50%. He suggested a larger reserve
because of the wait for July tax receipts, because there were very few things the
City could delay in its operation.
· Councilmember Schenck asked four or five years from now, what kind of reserve
will be required:
· Mr. Eick said it depends on revenue sources. He said maybe development will
slow down.
MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY GREENFIELD TO APPROVE THE
1996 AUDIT AND MANAGEMENT LETTER.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded.
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C. Don Rye - Issues for City Council Discussion in the Draft Zoning Ordinance. Draft Zoning
Ordinance
· City Manager Boyles introduced Planning Director Rye's presentation. He said
one of the Council's priorities of 1997 was a new zoning ordinance. A draft has
been prepared and must be approved as the primary tool in implementing the
comprehensive plan.
· Planning Director Rye said the Planning Commission has discussed each of the
proposed zoning districts in the draft ordinance. He said agricultural was
unchanged, as was the R-1 and R-2. The R-3 was new medium density to provide
a range of housing with single family and townhomes, consistent with site
characteristics. The uses have been expanded. He said there were those permitted
outfight, those met by certain conditions, conditional uses, and accessory, uses. He
said the C-2 community business is intended to be commercial. The C-3 specialty
district is just for downtown. It is different from those that either have been
developed or will be developed. The C-4 general business district is wide ranging
in terms of land use. It doesn't go into as heavy commercial land uses. C-5 is
unchanged. Shoreland will remain as is. He said in the course of putting the draft
ordinance together, there are a number of things that are different enough that the
Council needs to be aware of it.
· There is a provision that requires new developments to provide for pedestrian
access to the City trail system whenever possible.
· There was a suggestion that bed and breakfast be permitted. There were
commercial uses in high density residential as mixed PUD, not as permitted uses.
He said there was a proposal to consider regulation of boat and trailer storage.
The Planning Commission is recommending an Hours of Operation limit in
business districts.
· Councilmember Kedrowski said there was a concem with existing districts, trying
to limit their hours.
· Planning Director Rye said in the neighborhood business district, they are
suggesting a limitation of individual land uses to go down to 10,000 square feet so
it doesn't have such an impact on nearby properties. Currently the maximum lot
coverage is 35% and they are recommending 50%.
· Councilmember Kedrowski asked whether anything in terms of design or
materials was being regulated.
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· Planning Director Rye said if they wanted design regulation, they were looking at
an architectural review committee. The PUD process is significantly restructured.
The current PUD has some aspects of zoning, and some aspects of conditional
uses. The PUD imposes a process of review and approval. The .Planning
Commission is suggesting that certificate of occupancy be required for changes in
tenant. There was a suggestion that nonconforming signs and lighting for parking
be brought into compliance. The Planning Commission will try to utilize
illustrations in the ordinance to make it more understandable for people unfamiliar
with ordinance language.
· Mayor Andren asked about the time frame for public hearings on this issue.
· Planning Director Rye said there was a meeting next week. He will need maybe
two more review sessions, and it will be the middle of July for public hearings.
· Councilmember Kedrowski asked if the EDA would review the zoning ordinance
in relation to business issues.
· Planning Director Rye said anyone who wants to review it is encouraged. The
greater impact is on new commercial and industrial development.
· Councilmember Kedrowski said the draft ordinance summary should be
forwarded to the EDA.
· Councilmember Mader asked if requiring a combination of substandard lots in the
Lakeshore District is already a requirement.
· Planning Director Rye said under current ordinance, all they have to do is transfer
a parcel.
· Councilmember Mader asked if that would restrict the property owner from being
able to sell.
· Planning Director Rye said if the parcels are in common ownership, they must be
retained in common ownership.
· Councilmember Mader asked if the City would have problems if it assessed
substandard lots as individual buildable lots.
· Councilmemer Mader referred to boat and trailer storage. He said there is an issue
on the agenda regarding parking. There is a substantial amount of parking on the
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streets. A number of people said they don't appreciate having their streets lined
with boat trailers. He said they should do something to satisfy citizen concern.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Public Hearing to Consider Approval of Vacation of Holly Circle Holly Circle,
Vacation
· Mayor Andren called the public hearing to order at 8:35 p.m.
· City Manager Boyles introduced the item. The City received a petition from
Eagle Creek Villas and Joseph Knoblauch to vacate the platted right-of-way for
Holly Circle located on the south side of Cates Street, west of Albany Avenue and
east of CJ Circle. Because the City was petitioned the vacation can be approved
by majority vote The purpose of the hearing is to determine whether there is a
public interest in the property.
· Mayor Andren noted that there were no members of the public that wished to
speak.
MOTION BY KEDROWSKI, SECOND BY SCHENCK TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded.
MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY SCHENCK TO ADOPT
RESOLUTION 97-47 APPROVING THE VACATION OF HOLLY CIRCLE
AND THE INDIVIDUAL LOT EASEMENTS AS REQUESTED.
· Councilmember Mader said he was unfamiliar with the area. He said State Statute
said they could carry out a vacation of property if it was in the Public Interest to
do so. He said what is the public interest in vacating the right-of-way.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said the road right of way is not in use or needed
and a utility easement covers the drainage.
· Councilmember Mader said the statute doesn't indicate whether the City has a
use. He said if it is in the public interest to do so, what is the public interest? He
asked who will the property go to if they vacate it?
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said to the adjacent property owners.
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· Councilmember Mader asked whether the City owning it prevented development.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said the topography prevented development
because there was a creek and to try to build through it would be prohibitive.
· Councilmember Mader said doesn't it mean that no one will develop it.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said by vacating it, the property owners will be able
to utilize the lots.
· Councilmember Mader asked if the two issues were tied together.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said yes.
· Mayor Andren asked whether the staff had received any public comments.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said they had not.
· Mayor Andren asked whether there was anything constructed on the property.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said it was platted in 1977 but no building has
occurred.
· Mayor Andren said there must have been some type of plan to extend or use it in
some way. Is there later on going to be a road?
· Planning Director Rye said that this parcel is likely to become part of a
development to the south to be considered later on the agenda and access to the
southern portion will be from the south.
· Mayor Andren said they had determined that there is no City need now or in the
future for the area to be vacated.
· Mayor Andren called the question.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded.
7. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Consider Approval of Request by Maple Hills HOA for Sewer and Water Project. Maple Hill
HOA
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· City Manager Boyles introduced the item, which was tabled at the April 21
meeting, in order to stake the road way from Pike Lake Trail to the terminus of
both roads, inventory any and all trees to be lost as a result of a 20 foot roadway
width, and to have the Fire Chief survey the roadway to determine steps necessary
for compliance with the Uniform Fire Code.
· Fire Chief Chromy said upon reviewing the roadways, there are areas where trees
need to be removed. For example, at the comer of Embassy and Mitonka Circle
one would have to be removed. Mr. Borhave would remove two trees. There are
few mature trees that would need to be removed. The turnaround is adequate with
the improvements that Chromy has asked to be made.
· Mayor Andren Lee said that means Mr. Borhave will comply with the Fire Code.
· Fire Chief Chromy said everything will be a minimum of 20 feet apart.
· Councilmember Schenck asked if they also looked at overhang problems.
· Fire Chief Chromy said the overhang was caused by immature growth which
would be removed as part of the project.
· City Engineer Ilkka said with regard to water and sewer installation, using
generally accepted construction techniques, there is potential for root damage but
the risk is minimal. The price using boring for sewer installation for sanitary
sewer increases costs by 15-20%. He understands the property owners desires to
save money, but theten foot standard distance should be maintained. With 10 foot
separation, it would reduce potential for City maintenance liabilities.
· Councilmember Mader asked if City Engineer Ilkka could give him a perspective.
He said the fire code issue has been resolved nicely. But when they get to the
question of 6 or 10 feet, separation and go to higher strength sewer pipe to save
trees, wouldn't this be as good from a safety concern?
· Public Works Director Ilkka said the proposed increase in pipe strength was good
for sewer. The safety issue occurs in City maintenance of the system.
· Public Works Supervisor Hartman said from his perspective the more room he has
to work with the better. He stated that breaks occur in freezing weather. Digging
takes place in soil saturated with water. He said the 10 foot separation does not
always exist once installed. He said the pipes do not exactly parallel each other.
He said he would not want any less than 10 foot separation.
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· Councilmember Mader said Public Works Supervisor Hartman indicated that
there was sometimes less than ten feet, but the report said there was not. He said
he was sure that sewer and water failure did not happen every day. Knowing that
the area wanted to preserve the trees, he said looking at the sketch, if they go the
full ten feet, they will lose more trees. He supports the six foot separation.
· Mayor Andren asked if safety risks were created by maintaining less than a 10
foot separation. She said she was unaware of any developers in Prior Lake which
deviated from the 10 foot separation. She said she respected that people wanted to
save the trees. She would not like to put City maintenance workers at risk. The
City Council adopted a design manual, and the 10 foot specifications are in there.
This is an equity/precedent concern.
· Public Works Supervisor Hartman said those are all concerns. He said developers
and construction crews did not work in the same conditions as the public works
maintenance. Decreasing separation complicated things. He said the precedence
is a big concern. He said it would be more complicated, expend more time, and
cost more if less separation was approved.
· Councilmember Schenck asked whether breaks typically take place in winter.
· Public Works Supervisor Hartman said there was soil movement due to frost, and
they could be out there fixing a break when it was 20 below zero, and wanted to
get in and out as fast as possible.
· Councilmember Schenck said what is potential for sewer water leaking into
drinking water.
· Public Works Supervisor Hartman said it exists, but has been addressed with
stronger pipe.
· Councilmember Schenck said how many more trees with 10 foot separation.
· Public Works Director Ilkka said they were not talking about more than half
dozen.
· Mayor Andren asked what is the potential for root damage if the separation is six
feet rather than ten.
· Councilmember Mader said sketch for construction shows the excavation starting
at 20 feet which means some excavation would be started at the trunk of the tree.
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If the excavation was started at 16 feet or less, that may allow salvaging trees.
Excavating right at the trunk would not.
· Mr. Boerhave said in addition to talking safety the homeowners are also
concerned about cost. He said he'd like to keep the cost low, because they don't
like to spend money, if unwarranted. The system they want is acceptable. Safety is
a non-issue. There will be an as-built so they can find the pipes. It is not some big
mystery.
· Councilmember Greenfield asked about Mr. Boerhave's experience with
installation and repair of sewer and water pipes.
· Mr. Borhave said none except for many years ago, and the staff was trying to
paint a disastrous picture because they want the City Council to act as they
wanted. He said they were concerned with safety. He said a compromise would be
a six foot separation, one trip through with an eight foot wide box. This would
give a trench. He said as far as a watermain break, City water would not be
contaminated. The State Board of Health and MPCA approved a two foot
separation. There are tough situations which economically less separation makes
sense. He said the Council should approve alternative 2 in the staff report, and the
neighborhood has satisfied the fire code.
· Mayor Andren said the recommendation was for alternative no. 1.
· Mr. Borhave said to do the initial construction, he is recommending alternative
number 2. He said if they go through with a six foot separation, they can get the
project built to everyone's satisfaction.
· Councilmember Mader said his recollection was there were the issue of the fire
safety and the water and sewer pipe separation. At that time, there was a disparity
as to the number of trees to be lost. The first time there was no compromise on the
fire safety. It sounds like if we go with alternative one, they are right back to
alternative one, why did we waste the time?
· Mr. Borhave said it was his understanding that they were headed toward a
compromise. He said the only issue was the variation from the standard.
· Public Works Director Ilkka said that he wanted to address the issue of the trees.
He said the developer was mostly trying to save himself and the association
money. The staff and association did not waste time.
· Councilmember Schenck asked about the increased quality of the pipe.
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· Public Works Director Ilkka said it will help prevent the cross-contamination.
· Mayor Andren said once the proposer puts the project in, the City has to maintain
it. She said the project would be substandard if done at less than 10 foot
separation. She said if she were coming into the City to build she would want to
reduce costs. If this gets a variance in separation and her project didn't the City
would be sued. She said it is public money and time invested in maintaining the
system. The tree loss is significantly reduced from the last time we talked about
it. This is an equity issue.
· Councilmember Kedrowski recognized Mr. Borhave, who asked for the definition
of substandard. Other than the variance from 6 to 10 feet, it is not substandard.
· Mayor Andren asked City Attomey Brokl if there was potential for an equity
issue.
· City Attorney Brokl indicated that there was.
· Mr. Borhave said it is an acceptable design. He said Public Works Director Ilkka
won't make a call because he wants the City Council to make the call. He won't
admit it is not substandard.
Councilmember Kedrowski said his recollection from the meeting was fire and
safety issue and tree inventory. He said he did not see a tree inventory. He said
they were led to believe there was significant tree loss. He said it was 12 trees at
the most and they resolved the fire and safety issue. He was not an expert and he
will go with recommendation number one.
· Councilmember Greenfield asked Public Works Director Ilkka if he could be
flexible with widths.
· Public Works Director Ilkka said in the field things vary, if they start with an
eight foot, they could end up with a five foot separation. If they start with a ten
foot there may be places where the separation is less.
· Councilmember Greenfield said so there is an opportunity to consciously'go down
to less than ten feet to accommodate the trees.
· Public Works Director Ilkka said his recommendation was ten feet but that such
issues could be addressed in the field.
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· Councilmember Mader said he was puzzled about precedent because the City has
varied from ordinances. He said if there is no ordinance, precedence may become
a criteria, but if there is deviation it does not. He said he thinks they should allow
the Maple Hills HOA latitude.
· City Attorney Brokl said there is a difference between a precedence of ordinance.
The concept of precedence still exists.
· Mayor Andren said when they do that they have a hardship criteria. In this
instance there was an equity issue. There is no hardship criteria. This would be on
the record in our design manual. It applies to everyone in the city. Everyone has
abided by that.
· City Attorney Brokl said if such an issue went to court, the outcome of the case
would likely depend on the record of the proceeding.
· Mayor Andren said court proceedings would use public time and money. She said
precedent, maintenance, and equity is important in this case. The City runs by
certain standards.
MOTION MADER TO APPROVE ALTERNATIVE 2 AS DEFINED IN THE
STAFF AGENDA REPORT.
· Motion was lost for lack of a second.
MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY SCHENCK TO APPROVE
ALTERNATIVE NO. 1 DIRECT PROJECT SPONSOR TO COMPLY WITH
THE FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS AS INTERPRETED BY THE FIRE
CHIEF AND TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY STANDARDS FOR UTILITY
CONSTRUCTION TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY USING COMMON
CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES AND AS APPROVED BY THE CITY
ENGINEER.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, and Schenck, nay Mader,
the motion carried.
Res 97-43,
B. Consider Approval of Resolutions 97-43 and 97-44 Approving Plans and 97-44, 97-
Specifications for CSAH 21 and CSAH 42 Improvements and Approval of the 45, 97-46
Cooperative Agreements with Scott County and Resolutions 97-45 and 97-46
Authorizing Parking Restrictions on CSAH 21 and CSAH 42. Project.
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MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY SCHENCK TO APPROVE
RESOLUTIONS 97-43 AND 97-44 APPROVING PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS FOR CSAH 21 AND CSAH 42 IMPROVEMENTS AND
APPROVAL OF THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS WITH SCOTT
COUNTY AND RESOLUTIONS 97-45 AND 97-46 AUTHORIZING
PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON CSAH 21 AND CSAH 42.
City Manager Boyles introduced the item. Improvements contemplated to CSAH
21 and CSAH 42 are included in the approved Capital Improvement Program.
The CSAH 21 plan is for construction of a four lane urban roadway from CR 82
to CSAH 42. The CSAH 42 plan is for a four lane rural roadway with an 8'
bituminous bike trail on the south side. Sanitary sewer and watermain will be
installed. A regional water quality pond is proposed north of CSAH 42 and west
of Pike Lake Trail. The original pond concept included acquisition of 18.5 acres
of land to construct the pond. Parking will not be possible on CSAH 21 or 42 as
the proposed width does not meet MnDOT minimum standards for a four lane
road.
City Manager Boyles said the County is seeking City responsibility for ongoing
maintenance of N.U.R.P. ponds. That issue will be reviewed by staff and
considered by the Council at a later date as a separate issue.
Councilmember Mader said he had a couple of questions. He said a month ago
they decided to use a single pond. At that time, the NURP pond was going to be
around $200,000. He said he noticed in the report that county agreed to contribute
all money for construction ponds associated with the project.
· Public Works Director Ikka said the agreement provided the City with a $76,000
credit only under scenario of CSAH 42 being improved.
· Councilmember Mader asked if all financial requirements for the CSAH 21
project was bonded.
· Public Works Director Ilkka said the balance of fimding required was out of trunk
reserve. Bonding costs are with utilities installations.
· Councilmember Mader asked if he were to go back and look at the numbers, how
close are they to original estimate?
· Public Works Director Ilkka said they are all in the ball park and actually less than
the earlier estimates.
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Mayor Andren called the question.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded. No Parking Petition
Eagle Creek Ave SE and
8. NEW BUSINESS: Lakeside Ave
A. Consider Petition for No Parking signs on Eagle Creek Ave. S.E. and Lakeside
Ave.
· City Manager Boyles introduced the item. The City received a petition for "No
Parking" signs on Eagle Creek Avenue SE and Lakeside Avenue. The request is
to install "No Parking" signs until such time as "Resident Only Parking" signs
and resident stickers for vehicles are available. The petition raises the question of
whether or not the City should have a "Permit Parking Only" policy, and if so,
what circumstances or criteria would warrant the creation and posting of such a
zone. Staff is recommending denial of the request in the petition and that the City
should not establish a "Permit Parking Only" policy by ordinance. He said he had
the opportunity to review these types of parking permits. He said they were
concerned about precedence.
Petitioner said he would like to go last. He said he wanted to clarify that they
were petitioning for no-parking signs until the City could investigate no parking
permits. They are concerned with the traffic flow the safety and welfare. He said
the roadway was 24 feet. He said the easiest way to deal with their concerns is no
parking and that would be their issue. He was hoping they could eventually get
permit parking. There are 16 affected homes, and the signatures on the petitions
are unanimous.
Mayor Andren said it seemed pretty reasonable to her. She said they should
investigate no parking, and the staff should come up with ordinance criteria.
· Council recognized Chris Anderson of 16020 Eagle Creek Avenue, who said they
have anywhere from 500 to 1000 strangers walking around. He said they were
camping out overnight.
Councilmember Kedrowski asked if they were sleeping in vehicles.
Mr. Anderson said yes
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Councilmember Schenck clarified that resident's driveway could support his own
vehicles. He said it would just shift the problem further down. He said they might
consider no parking during a certain time period.
· Council recognized Beth Brazier of 16707 Eagle Creek Avenue. She said they
like to park there too. She asked if the City could create a parking lot. She said
the access is public access, and that creates a problem.
· Councilmember Schenck said the West Avenue access is used for water rescue.
· Jim Space said the .area she is referring to is all the way from the Sportsman's
access. On West Avenue, there were two other accesses, totally undeveloped and
there was not a home on the Lakefront Park side of West Avenue.
· Ms. Brazier said a lot of the kids are not supervised. There should be proper
parking for the City Park that was developed.
· The Mayor recognized Debbie Humphrey of Lakeside Avenue who spoke on
behalf of her mother in-law who lived at 16000 Eagle Creek. She said people
asked to use the bathroom, and were parking in her driveway and on the property.
She said it was a danger. She said the police did not need to be called day and
night about this issue.
· The Mayor recognized Bonnie Kermer of 16044 Eagle Creek Avenue. She said
she was very happy to be here. She said she came here from St. Paul and thought
she was moving into a nice suburban area. This situation does not work. She
asked if the Council is going to do something about this.
· The Mayor recognized Kevin Bergstrom of 16300 Eagle Creek Avenue. The
report does not address the issue of safety. Allowing parking deprives
homeowners of the right to emergency vehicles. How does it affect property
value, safety and welfare of children. He said it creates a garbage problem as well.
· The Mayor recognized Kathy Space of 16094 Eagle Creek Avenue. The problem
was created in making the park without making parking.
· Mr. Space said the parking problem could be corrected. He said he wanted to
address that there is a 24 foot wide street that does not meet the fire code with all
of the cars parked on it.
· Councilmember Mader said he heard a lot of problems. He did not know how
much of the problem would be resolved without having a parking lot.
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· Mr. Space said that the problem was not there before the park.
· Mayor Andren said she knows there is a problem and it continues to get worse. It
increased with the park. She said first there should be no parking signs, and it
should be investigated for permit parking. She said there is a public park and it is
public access. There should be parking provided so it does not impact the
residential zone. She said staff should investigate a possible location of a parking
lot and should contact the DNR and ask if they would like to participate in the
cost. She said DNR mandates access. No parking does not do any good if the
penalties are not stiff, and parking problems should be about $50.00 each. That
would discourage many people very quickly.
MOTION BY ANDREN SECOND BY KEDROWSKI TO INSTALL NO
PARKING SIGNS ALONG EAGLE CREEK AND LAKESIDE AVENUES,
PROVIDE A PARKING LOT SINCE THE CITY PROVIDED THE PARK,
CONTACT THE DNR TO ASK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE
IN COST, INVESTIGATE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASING THE COST OF
THE PARKING FINE, INVESTIGATE PERMIT PARKING, AND EMPTY
GARBAGE FREQUENTLY.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded.
· Councilmember Mader said since the report came from Director of Public Works,
he wanted to hear from him
· Public Works Director Ilkka said that at the time of the report, he was unaware of
the specifics of the issue. Police
Patrol
MOTION BY GREENFIELD SECOND BY ANDREN TO DIRECT STAFF TO increase
INCREASE POLICE PATROL AND ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, DURING
HOURS OF FISHING AND LOITERING.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded.
· Councilmember Kedrowski asked about the timeline for no parking sign
installation.
· Mayor Andren said the Public Works Director says 7 days and Jim SPace is the
contact for the neighborhood.
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B. Consider Approval of Eagle Creek Villas Schematic PUD plan. Eagle Creek Villas
Schematic PUD
· City Manager Boyles introduced the item. The purpose of the item is to consider
approval of the schematic PUD to add approximately one acre of land to the
original site and to allow the construction of a 61 unit assisted living facility and a
28 unit market rate senior rental building on the vacant portion of the Priorview
PUD. Eagle Creek Villas has submitted an application for an amendment to the
Priorview PUD. The schematic plan which allowed 106 units was originally
approved in 1992.
MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY SCHENCK TO APPROVE EAGLE
CREEK VILLAS SCHEMATIC PUD.
· Councilmember Greenfield said he was concerned with the overall density. He
asked if Planning Coordinator Kansier would elaborate on the density.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said the original Priorview PUD consisted of 17.5
acres with 106 units. To date, 68 are constructed. This project proposes to
eliminate those and replace with one 61 and one 28 unit building. The density of
the new area runs 9.3 per acre. The density in the plan comes to 8.5 units per acre.
The comp plan designates a portion of the property as high density and a portion
as low density R-1.
· Councilmember Mader said they were talking about a PUD that was not
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
· Planning Coordinator Kansier said they would be approving the concept only.
They would amend the comp plan to show this area as high density residential.
· Councilmember Mader said he was nervous about changing ordinances and the
comp plan because of a petition. He said why would we not go with the original
comp plan or amend the plan by Public Hearing before acting on the PUD.
· Councilmember Kedrowski said that is interesting, but he assumes this is a staff
recommendation to the developer.
· Mayor Andren said they had a number of these over the years. This PUD has had
numerous proposed changes. What she is seeing is someone is making a senior
citizen assisted living complex. The developer wants to know if it is worthy
enough to the community to amend the comp plan so seniors will have additional
places to live in Prior Lake
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· Planning Coordinator Kansier concurred.
· Mayor Andren said there was one person at the public hearing. She said one of the
things the City does not have is an assisted living facility. That is one thing
people have been asking for for years. She said the comp plan should be changed.
· The Mayor recognized Deb Rose of 7725 Jennifer Lane. She said they had been
before the Council before . The services to each senior could be on a fee for
service basis. The additional piece was senior independent housing. This is a
continuum of care. With the market study, there is a zero availability for this type
of care. The minimum wait for such units is 9 months.
· Councilmember Greenfield said as a concept plan, it is a good opportunity for
seniors and jobs in community.
· Councilmember Kedrowski said this serves a void. The PUD has never been
completed, it has been partially developed. This proposal affords closure, the
schematic agrees with it.
· Councilmember Mader said he had two comments. He supported the facility for
senior citizens. The main concern was are they adding enough land and are they
crowding the other development.
· Planning Director Rye said the original PUD contemplated disturbed more land
than current one. There were 38 units to be built under the old proposal. The
original proposal was two larger buildings instead of one.
· Deb Rose said in relationship to assisted living and density, the units from 400 to
937 square feet.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader and Schenck, the
motion carried.
42 & 13
C. Consider approval of Concurrent Detachment /Annexation for CSAH 42 and Annex Svg
TH13 with the City of Savage.
· City Manager Boyles introduced the item. The purpose of the item is to consider
approval of a Joint Resolution which approves detachment of approximately 6
acres of land from the City of Prior Lake between the center line of CSAH 42 and
its northerly right-of-way line to be concurrently annexed to the City of Savage.
It approves the detachment of 10.5 acres of land from the City of Prior Lake
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located between the center line of TH 13 and its easterly right-of-way line to be
concurrently annexed to the City of Savage. State aid funding will not be
impacted. There is a potential for a cost savings in the event of TH 13
improvements. Staff recommends approval of the resolution.
Res 97-49
MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY SCHENCK TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION 97-49 APPROVING THE CONCURRENT DETACHMENT/
ANNEXATION FOR CSAH 42 AND TH 13 WITH THE CITY OF SAVAGE.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the
motion carded.
9. ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA Employee
Assistance
A. Consider Approval of Contract for Employee Assistance Program Services to Program.
NES.(Item 4C)
· Councilmember Mader asked about NES. He said dealing with employee assistance it is
good, but when dealing with confidentiality, it does not seem to be a good deal. He said
there is no indemnification of the City in the agreement.
· City Manager Boyles said the issue of liability was a good question. He said he would ~
have to research the liability question.
· Councilmember Mader said he did not object to Employee Assistance, but it was with an
organization that was not subject to the same laws, and that was a liability concern.
MOTION BY MADER SECOND BY SCHENCK TO TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL
ALTERNATIVE SERVICE WAS INVESTIGATED.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the motion
carried.
Building Report
B. Consider Approval of Building Report for April (Item 4G)
· Councilmember Mader said he was interested in the building permit reports. He said on
the number of building permits to date, the declared value for April looks very low.
· City Manager Boyles pointed out the columns addressing the month only and year to date
difference on the report.
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MOTION BY KEDROWSKI SECOND BY SCHENCK TO ADOPT THE BUILDING
REPORT FOR APRIL.
Upon a vote, ayes by Andren, Greenfield, Kedrowski, Mader, and Schenck, the motion
carried.
10. Other business
Hwy 13 and
Councilmember Mader said on Highway 13 and Candy Cove, it looks like a used car lot. Candy Cove
· Assistant City Manager Boyles said it is a MnDOT right of way and signs are on order
prohibiting reading at this location.
Minutes
· Councilmember Mader said secondly his comments clarifying minutes were
misunderstood. He said the Council should err on the side of courtesy. He stated that for
the first time he borrowed a tape and he was unable to hear it well.
· Mayor Andren said on the issue of parliamentary procedure, it is on record in the City
council bylaws. As a Councilmember he can use certain parliamentary procedures. She
said he could utilize bylaws. He should be familiar with them and use them.
· Councilmember Mader said he had a set of Robert's Rules of Order. He said the bylaws
don't comply with it.
Annexation
· Mayor Andren said look at the bylaws, the chair has the fight to recognize speakers. She
said he could move a motion, second and appeal the Chair. There would be discussion
and the question would be called. She said Spring Lake had a Public Hearing on the
issue. It is one thing to have discussion and another to have a City Council business
meeting opened up as a war zone. She said they agreed they would send over
recommendations to Spring Lake Board. The Board was going to take hearing testimony
and then send comments to us. This was a property owner who initiated a petition for
Annexation, and proposed with the Township Board a joint resolution. There were two
processes used. Neither was initiated by Prior Lake. The real issue is being lost. There is
a piece of land of 270 acres, 57 which were being platted in the County. If the City
Council had not approved annexation, the land is zoned under I-1 Scott County Zoning
ordinance. She listed the various businesses structures that could have been zoned there
by Scott County, such as tower antenna, solid and hazardous wastes transfer site, etc. All
could be adjacent to the City's million dollar industrial park. That is not in best interests
of the City. The City agreed to a Joint Resolution so that instead of having any or all of
this, the City chose to have a neighborhood, housing industry and a high school site.
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· Councilmember Mader said the reason the issue is getting lost is because no one was
allowed to make comment on the agreement.
· Mayor Andren said look at the bylaws. She said Councilmember Mader had already
stated his position on the issue twice at the meeting and discussed it thoroughly as shown
in the minutes.
11. ANNOUNCEMENTS/CORRESPONDENCE
· Councilmember Greenfield read a letter resigning the City Council. His resignation is
effective June 3, 1997.
12. ADJOURNMENT
· The meeting w~as adjourr~by General Consent at 11:45 p.m.
Cit ' Recording Secretary
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