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PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Monday, May 19, 2014
1. Call to Order:
Chair Phelan called the Monday, May 19, 2014 Prior Lake Planning Commission meeting to order at 6:00
p.m. Those present were Commissioners Jeff Phelan, Perri Hite, Eric Spieler and Wade Larson,
Community and Economic DevelopmentDirector Dan Rogness, City Planner Jeff Matzke and
Development Service Assistant Sandra Woods.
2. Approval of Agenda:
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY HITE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE MONDAY,
MAY 19, 2014 PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
3. Approval of Monday, May 5, 2014 Meeting Minutes:
MOTION BY HITE,SECONDED BY SPIELER TO APPROVE THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING
COMMISSION MONDAY, MAY 5, 2014 MEETING.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
4. Public Hearings:
A.DEV-2014-0005 15507 Calmut Avenue Matt Prettyman/Mark Crouse is requesting a
variance from the lake setback and impervious surface requirements on property located at
15507 Calmut Avenue, on the western shores of Lower Prior Lake, east of County Highway
21, north of Grainwood Circle. PID 25-035-006-0.
Planner Matzke
introduced the proposed variance and explained the current circumstances, issues,
conclusion and alternatives. He stated staff as well as the applicant is recommending to table this variance
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to the next Planning Commission Meeting, June 2, 2014.
Commission Comments/Questions:
None.
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY SPIELER TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGAT 6:07 P.M.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
Public Comment
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Richard Beer,
13151 Schroeder Circle NE, stated he represents Wind Song on the Lake Association as
its secretary/treasurer and mentioned the president of this association (Mr. Prashubh Batham) is also
present. He stated it is their understanding that the association owns the lakeshore in front of the residence
at 15507 Calmut Avenue. He asked if this is to be passed, what the impact of that lakeshore ownership
or any impact or consequences to any City Ordinances for the two sets of docks that the association owns.
He stated the reasons why that amount of lakeshore was purchased is so they could have two docks for
the association.
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Phelan
asked Planner Matzke if he could verify Mr. Beer comments.
Planner Matzke
stated no.
Phelan
suggested at this point he would make those notes in record and use this as another data point to
consider when meeting with the applicant.
Richard Beer
clarified that when the association was formed, the common area was originally built out
where the pavilion is at; that property was purchased by the builder to expand the lakeshore and then sold
back to the current owner of the property with an agreement that they would have one slip for the life of
the property as part of the agreement.
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MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY SPIELER TO TABLE THE HEARING UNTIL JUNE 2,
2014 OR UNTIL APPROAPERATE FOR STAFF.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
B.DEV-2014-0012 Kutzke Construction Inc. 14977 Manitou Road Kutzke Construction is
requesting a variance from the front yard setback for a building addition on property located
at 14977 Manitou Road, on the western shores of Lower Prior Lake, east of County Highway
21, between Lords Street NE and Coachman Lane NE. PID 25-053-003-0.
Planner Matzke
introduced the proposed variance and explained the current circumstances, issues,
conclusion and alternatives. Staff is recommending approval of the resolution approving the requested
variance or any variance the Planning Commission deems appropriate in these circumstances. He
provided exhibits, including a resolution, location map as well as a survey and floor plans stamp dated
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April 29, 2014.
Commission Comments/Questions:
Phelan
this and believes the application to be in general harmony
with the zoning ordinance and the comprehensive plan; the practical difficulties are obvious. The site
topography limits doing anything else and he neighborhood
character.
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY SPIELER TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGAT 6:19 P.M.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
Public Comment
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None.
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY HITE TO CLOSE THE PUBLICHEARING AT 6:20 P.M.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
Commission Comments/Questions:
Spieler
stated he supports this application In the past, the commission has looked at the back of houses
toward the lake for expansion and variances. This application is different as they are asking for a variance
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for the front of the house. He stated the design looks to be very nice, and they are only making minor
modifications.
Hite
stated she will be supporting this application. She described that the front yard setback has not
changed at all and stated the applicant is only filling in the six foot overhang. She said the topography of
of reasonable expansion. She mentioned that practical
difficulties do exist. She said that granting of the variance is in harmony with the comprehensive plan and
there is no change in the essential character of the neighborhood.
Larson
stated he is in agreement with his fellow commissioners with granting of this variance without
altering the existing character from the neighborhood, and it is the most logical addition to house.
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY SPIELER TO APPROVE THE TWO VARIANCE REQUESTS:
(1) THE 3.9 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK; AND (2) THE 10.5 FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK ON
THE CONDITIONS AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
C.Zoning Ordinance Text Amendments Marinas The Marina Task Force is proposing certain
amendments to the Prior Lake Zoning Ordinance related to Subsections 1101.1000 (Land Use
Descriptions) and 1104.307 (Additional Special Provision, Shoreland Regulations) of the City
Code Related to Mooring Facilities, Controlled Access Lots and Marinas.
Director Rogness
introduced the recommended ordinance amendments and explained the different
committees that have been involved with this process. The 3-member Task Force included Perri Hite,
Woody Spitzmueller and Liz Weninger. A larger research group included representatives of the DNR,
, and Homeowner Associations with docks. He explained the
history, current circumstances, issues and alternatives, including the different regulations, controlled
access lots, general facilities for general conditions in existing versus proposed marinas as well as
nonconforming uses and structures. He stated staff is recommending amendments to Subsections
1101.1000 and 1104.307 as proposed by the Marina Task Force, or as may be further amended by the
Commission. Director Rogness also referred them to a letter from the DNR dated May 14, 2014.
Commission Comments/Questions:
Phelan
commended the Task Force on a very comprehensive analysis of this situation. He said there
seems to be more structure and this would allow the city to move forward with more clarity. He questioned
the shoreland regulations of 1104.307 subsection 3 regarding having general conditions, regarding items
b, c, and d and asked how city staff proposes to enforce these items?
Director Rogness
replied staff felt these new general conditions should be applied for all reviews, but
that in some cases, staff may get some outside advice and prepare more research. He said the Task Force
knew that these conditions are very general, and a challenge when making determinations. However, he
stated these same conditions have been used in other lake communities.
Hite
stated the Marina Task Force defined marinas with more detail. She said they searched for
consistency and uniformity in the ordinances and definitions. She explained how they looked into every
type of mooring facility, including commercial and recreational marinas, and controlled access lots. She
stated how important the full partnership team was in the review process. She stated Liz Weninger (LAC)
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and Woody Spitzmueller reached
majority of the participants in the research group feel confident about what is being presented today. Hite
stated that coming up with formulas was one of the most difficult things for the Task Force; however,
using consistency, uniformity and team research resulted in the Task Force feeling very comfortable with
the proposal.
Spieler
asked how many marinas are in Prior Lake and are they recreational or commercial?
Director Rogness
replied there are three marinas, including Waters Edge as a recreational marina while
Knotty Oar and Captain Jacks are commercial marinas.
Spieler
stated that there is some vacant property on Lower Prior Lake and asked if this area was to be
converted into a marina in the future, would the zoning need to be change to a C-2 or a R-2?
Director Rogness
replied yes they would need to be rezoned to one of those two zoning use districts.
Spieler
asked so based on the square footage, if a marina was to move into that property on Lower Prior
Lake could they have over 50 different docks?
Director Rogness
replied the comprehensive plan is only supportive of R-1 or park/open space for that
area. It would either need to be rezoned to allow a marina, or it could be used as a controlled access lot
as part of an association.
Speiler
asked what is the maximum length of dock and how should it be measured?
Director Rogness
replied there is no maximum; however, maintaining navigation is a condition. He used
the Knotty Oar as an example to state that the length of their docks are probably at a maximum of
extending out into the lake, primarily because of the navigation under the bridge and the channel that goes
past that marina.
Spieler
asked if Captain Jacks needed to be more open so that boats could come and go. Would there be
concern about how far out their docks could go?
Director Rogness
replied that staff would look at all of the conditions related to any proposed changes.
He stated a lot of the marina and/or controlled access lots have gone through a thorough evaluation, so the
length of docks are typically set. However, they can propose something different and then it would need
to be evaluated based on the new ordinance criteria.
Spieler
asked is Lakefront Park considered an overnight boat parking?
Planner Matzke
stated Lakefront Park does day rentals and some weekend rentals over holiday
weekends, but most rentals are on a daily basis.
Spieler
asked what rules do they have to follow and how does the city review this dock length?
Planner Matzke
replied they have a list of regulations behind all the leasing and rentals of the day use of
the facilities.
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Phelan
questioned Subsection 8 related to legal non-conforming uses by asking if there was a proposed
modification, expansion or reconfiguring of any of those docks, would that trigger a review subject to the
proposed ordinance? He assumed that the grandfather clause only works as long as the mooring facility
remains in its current condition.
Director Rogness
replied yes.
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY HITE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGAT 6:55 P.M.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
Public Comment
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Liz Weninger
explained that she serves on the Lakes Advisory Committee and was partnered with
Commissioner Hite and Woody Spitzmueller on the Task Force. She explained the maximum length of a
dock is 100-150 feet. She was not sure if it is Scott County or the DNR that made these rules. If there is
adiving dock/swimming platform, it needs to be lighted and marked in some way, or it needs to be pulled
back to a length of 100 feet away from shore. She supported conditions on parking areas to result in no
runoff into lake. She asked Director Rogness if this information is in the report?
Director Rogness
replied yes, these conditions are included. He stated the DNR had some comments on
additional setbacks from the ordinary high water elevation for parking lots, which are included in the
proposal.
Ms. Weninger
stated to be careful and mindful about carrying gas cans on the dock; however, there needs
to be some caution on the boaters behalf for carrying their gas cans out to their boats.
Phelan
asked Director Rogness are these concerns that Ms. Weninger is referring to all subject to
conditional use permit for both the recreational and commercial marina?
Director Rogness
replied that is correct.
Dan Shower,
4397 Quincy Street SE, asked about the changes regarding covenants and the controlled
access spots on the lak
controlled access lots establish convenants to be maintained and enforced?
Phelan
mentioned that would fall under the grandfather clause of subsection 8 and that should cover it,
as long as they operate in the status quote.
Director Rogness
replied that is correct.
Mr. Shower
asked about the amount of docks/slips on controlled access lot with the 20 foot depth
requirement from the ordinanry high water elevation mark.
Director Rogness
replied if there is 30 feet of shoreline and at least 20 feet in depth for a controlled access
lot, at least 2 boat slips would be allowed, or said another way, the amount of running shoreline feet at 20
feet of depth is divided by 12.5 to arrive at the maximum number of boat slips.
Ms. Weninger
asked what if it was only 10 feet of depth?
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Director Rogness
said that 20 feet of depth needs to be maintained, or otherwise, a variance.
Dan Shower
thanked Ms. Weninger, Commissioner Hite and Director Rogness on a job well done.
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY HITE TO CLOSE THE PUBLICHEARING AT 7:06 P.M.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
Commission Comments/Questions:
Director Rogness
stated staff should have added an additional ordinance item to amend. In the R-2 and
the C-2 zoning district, it identifies marinas in each case under Conditional Uses. The marina use needs
to remain, but the listed condition should be removed due to those now being in the Shoreland Regulations
section. Staff may have to come back with a subsequent ordinance amendment; however if that is not
necessary, staff wants this additional amendment in the meeting minutes. The ordinance Subsections
include 1102.503(5) for the R-2 District and 1102.1103(10) for the C-2 District.
Spieler
stated he does like the proposed amendments and feels it clearly defines docks and marinas, as
well associations. He stated he does support these proposed amendments and feels it is a good forward
marinas if they make
changes going forward. He felt a great job was done in pulling this together.
Hite
stated she has nothing additional to add; this has been worked on for a long time.
Larson
agrees with fellow commissioners and feels there was a lot of work involved by the Task Force
and different agencies; therefore, he is pleased with the results.
Phelan
stated that he is satisfied with this proposed amendments and applauds those who were deeply
engaged in the effort. He mentioned that a letter dated May 14, 2014 from Jenny Skanke with the DNR
was positive. He feels it is appropriate to address both controlled access lots and marinas, and the 12.5
foot formula is reasonable. He stated there will be non-conforming or odd shaped lots with a process in
place to make an application for variances.
Director Rogness
also noted that Sarah Schwarzhoff from the City office was at every Task
Force meeting and other meetings as well; she was very helpful in guiding everyone from a legal
standpoint.
MOTION BY LARSON, SECONDED BY PHELAN TO RECOMMEND AMENDMENTS TO
SUBSECTION 1101.1000 AND 1104.307 AS PROPOSED BY THE MARINA TASK FORCE; ALSO
SUBSECTIONS 1102.503(5) AND 1102.1103(10) AS NOTED.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
5. Old Business:
None.
6. New Business:
A.Pledge of Allegiance
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Direct Rogness
stated Commissioner Larson had suggested this a couple of meetings ago. It is simply to
ask whether the commission wants to include this in all future meetings, similar to the City Council.
Phelan
Spieler
stated he feels it should be done and supports this.
Hite
stated she supports doing this.
Larson
stated he strongly support this.
MOTION BY LARSON, SECONDED BY SPIELER TO ADOPT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
TO BE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
7. Announcements:
A.Recent City Council Discussions/Decisions.
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Enclave at Cleary Lake 2Addition Final Plat & Vacate Easement
8. Adjournment:
MOTION BY PHELAN, SECONDED BY LARSON TO ADJORN THE MEETING.
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VOTE: Ayes by Phelan, Hite, Spieler, and Larson The Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 7:17 p.m.
Sandra Woods, Development Services Assistant
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