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PARK ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 2002
MAINTENANCE CENTER
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
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Approval of Meeting Minutes
a. April 8, 2002 Meeting Minutes
b. May 13, 2002 Meeting Minutes
Old Business
a. Skate Park Update
b. Summer Program Update
c. MPRA Award of Excellence
d. PAC Vacancies
4. New Business
a. Introduction of Heather Carlson, Recreation Coordinator
b. Parking Lot Lighting Project at Ponds Park
c. New Playground Equipment Proposal
d. Timber Crest Park
e. Schedule Date for 2020 Vision and Strategic Plan Presentation
5. Future Meeting Date
a. October 14, 2002
6. Adjournment
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CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
FOR
APRIL 8, 2002
Chair Thea Fluhrer called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m., on Monday, April 8, 2002.
Members present were Tom Schutz, Chad Storley, Lori Helgestad and Pat McFadden.
Also in attendance were Parks Maintenance Supervisor Al Friedges, Recreation
Supervisor Chris Esser, Recreation Intern Kent Kloster, Council Liaison Joe Zieska and
Assistant City Manager Susan Walsh.
March 11, 2002 Meeting Minutes: The minutes from the previous meeting was
reviewed. MOTION by Schutz to approve the March 11, 2002 Minutes. Second by
Storley. Ayes: 5. Nays: 0.
Parking at Sand Point Beach: Schutz provided a memorandum to the members that
outlined his proposal for collecting fees at Sand Point Beach in the spring and fall
months. His proposal included the following:
· Collect parking fees during the period of April 1 to October 31.
· Daily parking fees for residents for vehicles without trailers be reduced from
$4.00 a day to $2.00 a day.
· Install a fee box for payments, and fees would be paid by an honor system.
Payment would be deposited in an envelope and the driver would place the tab
top showing proof of payment on the dashboard of the vehicle.
· Vehicles without proof of payment would be issued a courtesy letter informing
them of the violation.
Discussion ensued on the cost involved in installing a lockbox, purchasing envelopes
and staffing costs. Schutz proposed that the city recruit volunteers from the adjacent
neighborhood for monitoring the cars for proof of payment and emptying the fee box.
Recreation Supervisor Esser felt we should also consider extending the season beach
attendants typically work since recruiting and scheduling volunteers could involve a
great deal of time.
There was a general consensus from the members on the following: 1. The parking fees for residential parking be reduced to $2 a day.
2. Collection of parking fees be expanded to included the months from April I to
October 31.
3. An honor system with a fee box and envelopes should be implemented; and
volunteers and or staff would monitor and collect fees.
Staff were requested to research the following: (1) the cost of purchasing and installing
a fee box, (2) cost for an envelope dispenser and envelopes, (3) evaluate cost and time
for recruiting volunteers versus hiring staff.
The members agreed this item should be addressed with the City Council at the Joint
Meeting on May 13%
Committee Member Schutz handed out to members his proposal for constructing a
parking lot at the water tower on Crest Avenue. His proposal recommended that staff
determine how many parking spaces could be created for vehicles with trailers and get
an estimated cost for the 2004 CIP.
Outfield Si¢lnage: Parks Maintenance Supervisor Al Friedges advised the committee
that PLAY is interested in selling signs for temporary fencing as a fundraising project.
The temporary fencing will be located at Lakefront Park and Ponds for youth baseball.
A representative from PLAY had recently returned from Arizona where he visited ball
fields that had temporary fencing with local advertisements on banners. Friedges stated
the signs would be printed on banners that would be tied to each temporary fence
section.
Members agreed that since PLAY donates funds to pay for the fences, this would be a
logical fundraising event. Friedges advised there would be written guidelines for
advertisers and PLAY. Following further discussion members agreed that Friedges
should work with PLAY on this project and that the signs be only be sold for Ponds Park.
Skatepark Update: Discussion ensured on the purchase of Skatepark Equipment
authorized by the City Council on April 1. The equipment will be purchased from Earl F.
Andersen and will consist of Tier II and I. Recreation Supervisor Esser advised the
opening date for the skatepark will be around the first or middle part of June and fees
and hours of operation have not been determined at this point. Committee members
discussed the agenda for the Informational Meeting scheduled for 7:30 p.m. following
the committee meeting.
Summer Proqram Update: Recreation Supervisor Esser gave an update on summer
programs.
Thomas Ryan Memorial Park Grand Opening: Assistant City Manager Walsh
advised the grand opening will be sometime after July 1 when the park will be
completely done. McFadden requested the grand opening be held on a Saturday so
friends of Tom Ryan who live out of town can attend.
Park Entrance Signs: Parks Maintenance Supervisor Friedges showed a picture of
what the new signs will look like. Cost for signs ranges from $1300 to $1500 depending
on the quantity purchased. Approval to purchase the signs will be considered by
Council at the May 6 meeting.
May 13 Tour of City Parks: Friedges gave a general outline of the parks and trails that
will be stops on the tour with the City Council at the next meeting.
By unanimous consent the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Walsh
Assistant City Manager
(Note: Immediately following the Committee Meeting, an informational meeting for the
new skatepark facility was held. Approximately 65 youth and parents attended.)
PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
FOR
MAY 13, 2002
Chair Thea Fluhrer called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. on Monday, May 13, 2002,
at the Maintenance Facility. Chair Fluhrer thanked members of the City Council for
attending the Joint Meeting of the Parks Advisory Committee and City Council. In
attendance were the following: Parks Advisory Committee members Tom Schutz, Chad
Storley, Lori Helgestad and Pat McFadden; Mayor Jack Haugen and Councilmembers
Petersen, LeMair and Zieska; City staff members Frank Boyles, Al Friedges, Bud
Osmundson, Kent Kloster, Chris Esser and Susan Walsh.
Skatepark Facility: Parks Maintenance Supervisor Al Friedges gave an update on the
construction of the skatepark. The City recently received a donation in the amount of
$25,000 from the Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community. Since the Community
requested that their donation go towards purchasing the new equipment, City funds will
be used to construct a new site for a permanent facility. The park is located in the
northwest corner of Lakefront Park adjacent to the upper parking lot. The dimensions of
the facility are 70 feet by 100 feet. The cement will be poured the week of May 20%
Staff has targeted the opening date for June 17th.
The Council and Parks Advisory Committee Members next discussed the fee structure
for the park. Recreation Supervisor Chris Esser reviewed fees charged by the cities of
Apple Valley, Burnsville and Hopkins and a private skatepark facility in Burnsville, called
G-Shock. These cities and business were surveyed since their skateparks have Tier l
and Tier II equipment. Esser proposed that the daily and seasonal passes for residents
be structured below the market rate. Non-resident fees would be comparable to the
other cities' fees. Following considerable discussion there was a general consensus
from the group that the residential passes should be $3/daily and $30/seasonal, and
nonresidential should be set at $6 for a daily and $90 for a seasonal pass. Staff was
requested to research the fee structured further. Final fees will be approved by the City
Council before the June 17t' opening.
Esser reviewed proposed hours and rules and regulations. He proposed that the
skatepark be open the same hours as the beaches--11 am to 7 pm. It was
recommended that the park remain open until 8 pm to accommodate visitors who work
during the day.
Esser handed out rules and regulations that were similar to other cities' posted rules. It
was agreed the rules should be stringent enough so behavior problems are addressed
appropriately. Esser advised the policies and procedures for skatepark attendants to
follow would be similar to the ones in place for the beaches.
Park Entrance Signs: Parks Maintenance Supervisor Friedges handed out a list of 30
parks that will have new entrance signs installed over the next two years. The total cost
for purchasing and installing the 30 signs is $69,690. The City Council authorized going
forward with the purchase and installation of the 30 signs at their May 7 City Council
meeting.
Parking Fees at Sand Point Beach: Parks Advisory Committee Member Tom Schutz
reviewed his recommendation for collecting parking fees from April to October advising
the Parks Advisory Committee has been discussing this matter for the past few months.
Schutz indicated that because of the cold and wet weather this spring, there was limited
parking during April and May. He also indicated that after reviewing the memorandum
from Recreation Supervisor Esser, he agreed that staff should monitor the parking
during the regular season (summer months) to see if the numbers warranted changing
the parking policy. Discussion followed on whether the parking fee for residents going to
the beach should be lowered from $4 to $2, and the question was raised on how many
residents versus nonresidents parked in the lot. Esser advised he did not have statistics
on this information, but he would ask the building attendants to keep track. Schutz
agreed to defer this matter until additional information was obtained.
PAC Chair Thea Fluhrer voice her concerns regarding the overflow parking for vehicles
with boat trailers in the upper parking lot at Lakefront Park. In September 2001 the City
Council has passed a motion to direct staff to re-restripe the parking lot for vehicles with
boat trailers. Councilmember Zieska advised he plans on making a recommendation to
the City Council to reverse this action since the skatepark facility is now located adjacent
to this parking lot.
Tom Schutz requested that the City Council consider including funds in the 2004 CIP for
a parking lot at the Crest Avenue water tower site. Schutz advised that this would
eliminate boat trailer parking on the streets and would provide a revenue source for the
maintenance of parking lots. Mayor Haugen suggested that the Lake Advisory
Committee review this matter. The group agreed the water tower site should be
included in the tour scheduled for July 29th.
Park System Investments: City Manager Frank Boyles informed the committee
members that staff will continue to look at property for future park development. This
includes land for community parks and parcels adjacent to current neighborhood parks.
Establishment of Subcommittee for Naming Parks, Facilities, Streets & Public
Places: PAC Chair Fluhrer reviewed the two applications the city received for renaming
of public places and asked for volunteers from the PAC to serve on the subcommittee.
PAC Member Schutz questioned whether the recommendation of the committee would
actually be used because in past years the policy was not followed as outlined. Zieska
and Haugen agreed that the policy should be reviewed for changes before the
committee reviews the pending applications.
Amendments to Parks Advisory Committee Bylaws: Assistant City Manager Walsh
reviewed the changes to the Bylaws that the Parks Advisory Committee approved
earlier this year. Mayor Haugen requested that the PAC reconsider changing their
annual report to the Council from semiannual to annual. Haugen indicated that it is
important for the advisory bodies to keep the council informed and at a minimum
advisory bodies should report to the Council twice a year.
MOTION by Schutz to recommend that the City Council approve the revisions to the
Parks Advisory Committee Bylaws as presented but to keep Article 2, Section B,
Subsection 4 to Semiannual reporting to the City Council. Second by McFadden.
Ayes: 5. Nays: 0. Motion carried.
Tour of Parks, Trails, New Development and Lake - July 29th: Chair Fluhrer advised
city staff is arranging for a tour that will include the Parks Advisory Committee, Lake
Advisory Committee, Planning Commission and City Council for July 29th. The tour will
include new parks, trails and development as well as a tour of Prior Lake aboard the
Charles Prior.
Other Business: Mayor Haugen asked if the city should reevaluate its field closing
policy so coaches or teams are held accountable and penalized if they ignore the field
closing signs. Staff advised of the current practice of informing coaches of closed fields
by posting signs on the fields and using the field cancellation hotline number. There is
no written policy on enforcement. Staff acknowledged it helps to know there is support
from the Council and PAC for implementing a policy that addresses procedures and
penalties for coaches and teams that continue to play on closed fields.
MOTION by Storley to adjourn. Second Helgestad. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Walsh, Assistant City Manager