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PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Monday, February 2, 2015
1. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance:
Commissioner Hite called the Monday, February 2, 2015 Prior Lake Planning Commission meeting to
order at 6:00 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Adam Blahnik, Perri Hite, Wade Larson and Mark
Petersen; Community & Economic Development Director Dan Rogness and Development Service
Assistant Sandra Woods.
2. Approval of Agenda:
MOTION BY PETERSEN, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO APPROVE THE MONDAY, FEBRUARY
2, 2015 PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Hite, Larson and Petersen The Motion carried.
3. Approval of Monday, December 22, 2014 Meeting Minutes:
MOTION BY PETERSEN, SECONDED BY LARSON TO APPROVE THE MONDAY, DECEMBER
22, 2014 PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Hite, Larson and Petersen The Motion carried.
4. Public Hearings:
A.
DEV15-001001 Shore Club & Marina Ordinance Amendment Waterstreet Restaurants Group
is requesting a Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment for expansion of a nonconforming use of 3950
and 3931 Green Heights Trail South West to reconstruct a
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Director Rogness
introduced the Ordinance Amendment at 3950 and 3931 Green Heights Trail South
West and explained the history, current circumstances, conclusion, issues and alternatives. He provided
a location map, developer narrative, redevelopment plans (site and building), proposed amendments to
add Subsection 1102.1600 and a reference to Minnesota Statutes 462.357.
Commission Comments/Questions:
Larson
inquired whether the wooded lot by the proposed parking was a private lot; he asked about the
process for notifying residents about this ordinance, and the existing conditional use permit on the
restaurant property.
Director Rogness
explained the wooded, unplatted outlot is zoned R-2 and stated there has been past
discussion of either possible parking for Captain Jacks or attached housing development. He explained
the process for notifying residents which includes the applicant submitting mailing labels to the City of
property owners within 350 feet surrounding both parcels. The City mails out a notice within 10 days prior
to the public hearing; hearings are published in the official newspaper. Further, he explained the 1984
conditional use permit records referred to renovation of the existing restaurant. He stated that the history
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of the property was unclear, but the bar/restaurant use was permitted for this property under the conditional
use permit. Therefore, the use may continue since the conditional use permit runs with the land. He also
mentioned the commercial marina use and configuration permitted by the DNR, which was properly
transferred to the current owners.
Blahnik
asked whether there would be any variations to the front and side yard setbacks, inquired whether
the parking lot across the street constituted an expansion of a nonconforming use, and asked about MN
Stat. § 462.357, which allows municipalities to permit an expansion by ordinance. He suggested to the
Commissioners consideration of reasonable regulations allowed under the statute for the application.
Director Rogness
explained the lake, front, and side-yard setbacks and noted the applicant was proposing
to reconstruct the building above the flood plain. He stated that lake setback and minimum parking
requirements would remain nonconforming on the site; he clarified that if the parking lot across the street
was not included, the site reconstruction would still be considered an expansion of a nonconforming use.
Hite
clarified with Director Rogness the parking spaces classified as on-site or off-street as well as the
minimum of 80 parking spaces required. She also confirmed the additional parking lot was zoned R-1
which allows for parking as an accessory use. However, the new parking lot would be nonconforming
due to the side yard setbacks not meeting the 20-foot minimum.
Peterson
was available on all streets in the area.
Director Rogness
replied that according to residents in the neighborhood, overflow parking was along
the local streets, including parking within those areas with
neighborhood.
Applicant
Applicant Roger BurksJeff Petschl
representing Waterstreet Restaurants, introduced himself as well as ,
Bill Kranz
local resident, and , builder. Roger stated the idea for the building was to look like a house and
create a restaurant that is community-friendly and family-oriented.
Blahnik
confirmed with the applicant the timeline to begin by July of 2015. He inquired about the lot
across the street and whether there were any discussions to acquire additional adjacent properties for
parking.
Jeff Petschl
stated the group would like to acquire additional property for parking, but that is not realistic
right now.
Hite
inquired about how the restaurant would operate in the community, whether they would have control
of their customers and how they would not have continuing issues. She also asked whether the group has
experience in running a restaurant with a marina and what kind of events the proposed restaurant would
hold. She further inquired about lighting and signage.
Applicant Burks
explained that they have not managed a restaurant with a marina, but they operate two
other restaurants in the Twin Cities. He explained how the staff will be trained to work both inside and
outside, managers will supervise people, crowds, and drinking;
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yards or homes. He stated that family-oriented and community-friendliness begins with the menu and
what is offered to attract families and local events. He added that they will not have drink specials or loud
music. Mr. Burks explained that they would work with the City and would like to participate in street
fairs, parades and other local events.
Petersen
asked about how many employee parking spaces were expected, where employees would park,
and signage for the parking lot.
Applicant Burks
advised that employees could range from 25-100 and the additional parking lot was
intended to be primarily as an amenity for rented boat slips; however, it could serve as employee and valet
parking at times. He explained their plan to contain street parking to the extent possible but they could not
guaranty that street parking would not happen.
Larson
asked about the outdoor versus indoor seating.
Applicant Burks
explained the current outside bar will no longer exist, but it will be replaced with
approximately 10 bar stools along the counter inside the restaurant; there will be additional tables and
seating outside on the deck area, but that capacity will also be reduced in size.
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY LARSON TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGAT 6:47 P.M.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Hite, Larson and Petersen The motion carried.
Public Comment
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Valerie Schueler,
3904 Green Heights Tr. SW. She represented about 21 residents in the area directly
affected by the application. She stated the mailing was inefficient and the noticed should have been sent
to surrounding neighborhoods outside the 350 feet perimeter. Additional concerns included: potential
major impacts to property values, loss of privacy, vehicles turning around in residential driveways,
encroachments in neighborhoods, a parking lot in a residential neighborhood, increased impact on
community for increased sexual activity and bodily functions in yards, hours of operation, inability for
residents to sleep with windows open, potential for loud music and sleep disturbances, loss of enjoyment
of the neighborhood, vehicle alarms and door lock noises, special events, environmental concerns such as
cleanliness and littering, loss of substantial trees and wildlife in the area, increased safety concerns,
additional traffic congestion and deterioration of roads, narrow turns in the neighborhood, delivery trucks,
lighting, potential for increased illegal drug activities, drunkenness, fights, and foot traffic and insufficient
background checking. She explained the history of the restaurant/marina. She asked not to rezone R-1
properties. She shared concerns about due diligence not being completed by the new owners as she
received different answers at each meeting regarding the new lot dedicated to slip owners only and now
for employees and special events.
John Granlund,
3893 Green Heights Trail. He has issues with the parking lot as presented, noting seating
is reduced but parking has increased. He stated he did not like the bar or the restaurant as it
patrolled. He noted accidents on Green Heights Trail in the winter and that setbacks created an
inconvenience for residents. He stated impervious surface has been a problem and additional pavement
will increase negative impacts on the lake.
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Alex Marchessault,
3915 Green Heights Trail. He lives next door to the parking lot and is happy with
re-doing the bar, but a new parking lot next to his house would make it difficult to sell in the future. He
stated that compensation is necessary.
Jennifer Nemecek,
3880 Green Heights Trail. She stated that residents in the neighborhood know a
restaurant and bar is there, and that they want the bar to be updated. She feels this group would be doing
a better job.
Randy DeMent,
16536 Spring Ave. SW. He showed photos to Commissioners and described what it
would be like to have a parking lot next door. He stated the neighborhood d
further noting Prior Lake is a wonderful place to work, live and play for a lifetime.
Mark Leuthard,
3904 Green Heights Trail. He stated he just moved into the neighborhood in March; he
knew about the neighboring bar and suggested they give more focus to the lake.
Robert Lemna,
16517 Dutch Ave. SE. He recently moved into the neighborhood stating he supported
the upgrades to the restaurant/bar; he further proposed that a stop sign in the area would be nice, but was
opposed to the parking lot.
Dick Hadley,
15297 Edgewater Circle. He stated he has lived there since 1983 and supports the restaurant
update project.
Jen Wocelka,
3874 Green Heights Trail SW. She neighborhood residents have a
problem with the restaurant project, and she felt that upgrading a parking lot is going to better the
community and home values.
**Herb VanValkenburg,
3945 Green Heights Trail. He noted he has lived in this community since 1991
and there have been many past meetings about these issues. He feels the new business has good intentions,
however stated good intentions in the past followed through for a short time only.
Liz Weninger,
2591 Spring Lake Road. She is Chair of the Lakes Advisory Committee and prefers a
parking lot to cars parking on streets; oil and parking lot runoff will be channeled rather than running into
the lake.
Susan Hadley,
15297 Edgewater Circle. She noted similarities to Lake Minnetonka, stating residents
should view this as a restaurant rather than as a bar. She felt it will be upgraded, and she would not like to
live next to a parking lot; however, they needed a quality restaurant on this lake.
Jay Nemecek,
3880 Green Heights Trail. He recognized that this is an emotional night for everyone;
however, the bar and restaurant is needed for the community. He noted he lives across the street from the
parking lot and that every day there is parking on the streets. People drive around the neighborhood
looking for a parking spots, and the new parking lot may increase safety of the neighborhood.
DeAnn Anderson,
4014 Green Heights Trail. She is located on the east side of Captain Jacks and inquired
about increased boat slips. She also noted they deal with a lot of beer bottles in the street.
Applicant Petschl
to boat slips.
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Harry Alcorn,
14283 Shady Beach Trail. He stated he was looking forward to the new business as it was
a great opportunity to have the safety needs addressed; moving the parking off the street into a controlled
area was a great idea.
John Bohr,
3552 Basswood Circle. He owns the lot referred as an outlot near Captain Jacks. He stated
he initially purchased that land with the intent to develop and then the market crashed. However, in
discussions with the City, Spring Street does not have a turn-around and he was wondering if anyone has
considered a potential connector to the parking lot to Spring Street for safety reasons. He noted the City
for an additional parking lot on the outlot.
Renee Hengemuhle,
3827 Island View Circle. She lives across the lake from the proposed restaurant
property; she would like to see more boat slips for people that live on the lake.
Applicant Petschl
stated the plan was to rent 60 slips and to have 20 open for boat traffic from the lake.
Hite
asked the applicant if they have conducted a traffic study or if they have not, if they plan to do so.
Applicant Petschl
said no, they have not and have no plans to conduct a traffic study.
Hite
asked what percent of sales they anticipate coming from liquor versus food.
Applicant Burks
replied 35% liquor and 65% food.
Larson
asked if they could explain more about their business motto and how they would like to have their
business incorporated into the community, history, etc.
Applicant Burks
stated they intend to change the name and the interior of the restaurant with old maps,
old photos of lodges;
Applicant Petschl
mentioned how the other restaurants are woven into the community; explaining how
the Excelsior restaurant represents local schools.
Applicant Burks
said the restaurant is their first concern and the bar is just the balance of a good
restaurant.
Larson
commented about space availability; he appreciated the decline in outdoor seating as well as
moving the bar from the outside inward to control some of the noise complaints.
Applicant Burks
commented on how has been in the restaurant business for 35 years and listed his
experiences in restaurants and the restaurant business. He also stated he lives in Chanhassen about a half
a mile from one of his restaurants in Excelsior.
Larson
wanted to know how the applicant plans to handle neighborhood frustrations. He asked if there is
any plans of on-going neighborhood communication/discussion regarding issues that may come up,
especially since one of the owners is a neighborhood resident. He feels the community is looking for more
restaurants to build as an establishment, and he further stated that he has heard from residents that they
would like to boat to this establishment.
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Applicant Burks
explained that they have an open door policy, like a neighbor. He wants every neighbor
to feel like a neighbor/guest/friend, being on a first-name basis, being taken very good care of and to feel
like they are .
Petersen
create a lot of light pollution.
Builder Kranz
replied that they will meet city and neighborhood criteria, specifically lighting that is
down-lit that will not interfere with neighbors, but still allow for proper security.
John Granlund
wanted to reiterate the fact that everything about this residential lot is a variance; this is
R-1 property. He pleaded for the Commission not to not forget that in making their decision, nothing in
that parking lot is in conformity with current regulations.
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY BLAHNIK TO CLOSE THE PUBLICHEARING AT 7:53 P.M.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Hite, Larson and Petersen The Motion carried.
Commission Comments/Questions:
Petersen
stated living next to a parking lot would not be ideal and encouraged the applicant to work
Larson
stated he looks at this in two ways. Without any variances, the current zoning for
leaves potential a continuation of the restaurant/bar. On the other hand, he is hearing the applicants
willingness to be involved with the community as well as the history of the community. He said the
parking lot will alleviate the neighborhood street parking issues, and that he feels it is unfortunate to have
a parking lot in between two residential homes. However, there is no other willing parties, outside of this
particular lot to have a parking lot area. He said he appreciates what the applicants are bringing to Prior
Lake. He is in support of this process for the parking issue based on parking safety and seating
reduction. He feels the city needs to look to the future, not only at the past, and that a new applicant
coming into our community is family orientated and is willing to communicate with the community.
Blahnik
asked Director Rogness if the current parking lot of 52 stalls with the proposed building, which
reduces the seating in the building, would require 78 off street parking stalls for the building itself and an
additional 20 stalls for the marina. He asked per ordinance whether it would require 98 parking spots.
Director Rogness
replied yes, that is correct.
Blahnik
asked if a safe statement to make would be, this project will not go through if it is limited to the
existing 52 parking spots; therefore, if the
built, that proposal is keeping 52 parking spots which is just under half of what is required.
Director Rogness
replied this property has received past approvals for the restaurant/bar by a conditional
use permit. He said he believes the 52 stalls is approximately what they have had, and this number has
never met the parking requirements per zoning code requirements; therefore, it is non-conforming. He
said the need for additional parking has been an issue all along in staff discussions with the applicant, and
yet, it is one of those difficult issues with arguments on both sides of the positive and the negative in terms
of impacts to the residential neighborhood.
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Blahnik
stated with the existing 52 parking spots, and otherwise, 98 would be required, the choice is
either to ke this new restaurant. He said the proposed restaurant is absolutely great
for the community. He stated the issue is the parking; additional parking is essential for this project and
this is an opportunity to have a parking lot. Although parking is still less than the required amount, 32
more parking stalls would help alleviate the safety issue of parking congestion on the streets. He interprets
MN Stat. § 462.357 as a specific ordinance for the expansion of this nonconforming use as well as the
inclusion of this additional parking lot. He feels this additional parking would abate potential nuisances
and improve the public health, and welfare and safety of the neighborhood. His interpretation of MN Stat.
§ 462.357, subd. 1(b), suggested that it is within authority to allow this expansion of the existing
nonconforming use because this expansion would be necessary to protect public health and safety by
addressing parking needs. It is worth noting that the applicant is reducing the number of seating both
inside and outside which potentially reduces the amount of traffic. He said this will be a higher quality
building and higher quality restaurant.
Hite
stated that tion is
great based on amenities. She said she is intrigued by the concept of the restaurant, expressing
gratification for removal of the existing structure and a new building in its place. She feels the parking
lot is needed and will get people off the street; however, she is concerned it will not alleviate some of the
nuisances, congestion on the street, and the inconveniences/friction with residents that exist today. Hite
does not have an issue with the restaurant, but she has concerns with the additional parking lot. She
think it fits in the location that it is proposed, and would love to see the parking solution that fits
both the neighborhood and development. She mentioned an opportunity to partner with the owner of the
outlot; the City and the applicant should work there while unsure if that is feasible. Hite understands that
for the marina boat slips, it is rare that all 60 people would show up and want a boat on the same day, but
she could see some conflicts there. For the reasons mentioned, she is not supportive of this proposal since
the city owes more to the community and to the success of this business. She thinks this establishment on
the lake would be wonderful, but she cannot support having the second parking lot as proposed.
Rick Keeney
, City Council Liaison, said he would like to make a few suggestions on the process. He
stated that there is an opportunity for the Commission to recommend some conditions on what might help
mitigate some of the future concerns that were heard from residents. He would like to invite the
Commission to consider additional conditions, and perhaps, the applicant could give their input on what
conditions would be acceptable to them, such as hours, etc. He contemplates sitting at the City Council
meeting deliberating on this matter; he would want some conditions that may be appropriate. Perhaps a
different number of stalls and additional buffering is one way to address neighbor concerns.
Blahnik
suggested at this time to further discuss the issue of the parking lot as it is his understanding that
the applicant intends to include a retaining wall, screening and landscaping. He asked the applicant is
there anything further they wish to share in regard to what is being proposed with the parking lot across
the street.
Builder Kranz
explained the design of the parking lot to be lowered in the grade to approximately three
feet as it comes up from the street, along with a 4-feet high retaining wall and a screened fence between
the property lines and the parking lot. The intent is to try to lower the parking lot for drainage and usage
and also to limit the lights of cars as they pull in and out of the parking lot.
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Hite
stated she is not changing any of her opinions; however, if passed, she would like to see the applicant
work with the neighbors on the type and quality of screen fencing for the type and quality to fit the
neighborhood. She supported additional landscaping to be offered to neighbors as well as landscaping
their lots if they want it in order to increase the buffering.
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY PETERSEN TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN
ORDINANCE SUBSECTION 1102.1600 AS PROPOSED IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE EXPANSION
OF A NONCONFORMING RESTAURANT.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Larson and Petersen Nay by Hite. The Motion carried 3 to 1.
5. Old Business:
A.Ordinance Amendments - Architectural Design Standards (Continued) City of Prior Lake is
proposing an amendment to the Prior Lake Zoning Ordinance to change the architectural design
standards for commercial and industrial development, including the prohibition of pole
buildings.
Director Rogness
reintroduced the recommendation to amend subsection 1107.200, Architectural Design
and explained the history, current circumstances, conclusion, issues and alternatives. He mentioned some
additional cities were contacted for what they do allow in their industrial parks.
Hite
mentioned that on behalf of the Planning Commission, she would like to thank Director Rogness for
his continued research which was done in many communities for different types of architectural building
designs. She has reviewed the amendments as proposed and feels the example in 1107.2207 6(c) can be
removed as the text is descriptive enough. She stated she is comfortable with the protection of the existing
businesses and the investments they have made in their buildings while maintaining flexibility and
drawing new business to the commercial areas where pole barns already exist.
Larson
stated the language is too strong regarding the prohibition of pole buildings other than Welcome
Avenue area. He mentioned that it was specifically for one development that led to proposed changes that
concerns him. He explained that less expensive pole buildings can help a business get started; therefore,
he is not in support of banning pole buildings completely. He asked Director Rogness if he could expand
on other developments set aside for industrial parks.
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Director Rogness
replied that Deerfield has 2/3 vacant land, and that Welcome has some redevelopment
opportunities. There may be some in the future along the County Highway 42 corridor, which could be
more Business Park with a commercial emphasis.
Larson
asked whether pole buildings are not being allowed in commercial use districts versus industrial
use districts.
Director Rogness
explained that pole buildings were explicitly prohibited recently in the Business Park
C-3 Use District, but that this discussion relates more to the General Industrial I-1 Use District. He
suggested maybe a comfortable place would be excluding pole building in just industrial zones.
Blahnik
shares the sentiments of Commissioner Larson which include issues with the absolute prohibition
of pole buildings; he is not comfortable with that direction. He feels the city would be limiting itself to
prospective businesses. He would be in support if it was not an absolute prohibition of pole buildings.
He mentioned how some businesses may need a pole building behind the main structure for storage.
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Therefore, he would be in support of design amendments with the exception of a total prohibition of pole
buildings.
Petersen
is in favor of the proposed amendments as written; thinking long term, he believes that aesthetics,
property values and quality buildings attracts more of the same. He asked if someone had a reason for
building something that resembles a pole building, could the city address that on a case-by-case basis, or
does prohibition mean there are no exceptions.
Director Rogness
replied that if all pole buildings require a conditional use permit, then the Planning
Commission would be reviewing these on a case-by-case basis; however, he would recommend that the
Commission propose some kind of conditions that would assist in their decision.
Hite
asked if pole buildings would still need to meet the amended architectural design elements
comprising three of five.
Director Rogness
said they would still have to meet the seventy-five percent material standards and the
three of five design standards.
Hite
said that the city is protected that way whereby pole buildings would need to meet all design
elements.
Director Rogness
replied that is correct. He further said the pole building is removed, they are allowed
and they would have to meet the same design criteria that was applied to the recent pole building in
Deerfield. Property owners in Deerfield testified that it pole building is a cheaper building that brings
down the values of other existing buildings in Deerfield.
Blahnik
asked if this is a recommendation to the City Council.
Director Rogness
replied correct.
Hite
suggested removing the prohibition against pole buildings, but they would still be required to meet
the design criteria.
Larson
said he would still like it to go through the conditional use permit process.
MOTION BY BLAHNIK, SECONDED BY LARSON TO RECOMMEND THE CERTAIN
AMENDMENTS TO SUBSECTION 1107.2200, ARCHITECTUAL DESIGN OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED; HOWEVER, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A POLE BUILDING
WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Larson and Hite Nay by Petersen. The Motion carried 3 to 1.
6. New Business:
A.Preliminary PUD Plan Application Less Than 10 Acres Dominium is proposing a Planned Unit
Development project on a site less than three acres; Subsection 1106.601 allows an exception to
the 10-acre requirement upon approval of the Planning Commission.
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Director Rogness
introduced the proposed preliminary Planned Unit Development Plan and explained
the current circumstances, issues and alternatives. He presented a site and locations map, PUD concept
plan and project examples.
Petersen
asked about the car wash property.
Director Rogness
replied the car wash is a positive aspect; however, he stated redevelopment could
include the car wash property based upon a willing seller, and it provides more area to potentially add
some park/open space.
Petersen
stated it would be a good fit and mentioned it would be a great addition for this corner.
Hite
stated based on the initial layout of the plan and the green space, parking and amenities, this should
move to the next step.
Blahnik
asked if the entire building would be demolished at this location. He also asked about the four
requirements that the applicant would need to meet and stated that he felt these requirements were unique
considering a parcel that is smaller than the required ten acres. He further stated he agrees with his fellow
Commissioners that this proposed projects looks nice, and that the area needs an update. He said he is in
support of this continuing on to the next level.
Larson
supports moving this forward. He suggested work within the PUD program to keep these existing
businesses within Prior Lake. He said that he has seen some other location changes and he felt this is a
unique concept.
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY PETERSEN TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
THE CITY STAFF TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS THE APPLICATION FOR THE PRELIMINARY
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROJECT WHICH IS LESS THAN TEN
ACRES.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Hite, Larson and Petersen The Motion carried.
7. Announcements / City Council Updates:
Boat slips for controlled access lots -
Council directing a similar process that was done with marinas
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New applications/developments
Dominium senior housing project
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Variances for lake front lot
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8. Adjournment:
MOTION BY HITE, SECONDED BY LARSON TO ADJORN THE FEBRUARY 2, 2015 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
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VOTE: Ayes by Blahnik, Fleming, Larson and Petersen The Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Sandra Woods, Development Services Assistant
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