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HomeMy WebLinkAbout3 December 18 2017 Meeting Minutes - final draft 1 PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Monday, December 18, 2017 1. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance: Commissioner Fleming called the Monday, December 18, 2017 Prior Lake Planning Commission meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Bryan Fleming, Dave Tieman, William Kallberg, Dan Ringstad, Jason Tschetter and Liaison Zach Braid. Also present were Community Development Director Casey McCabe, Planner Amanda Schwabe and Community Development Service Assistant Sandra Woods. 2. Approval of Agenda: MOTION BY TIEMAN, SECONDED BY KALLBERG TO APPROVE THE MONDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2017 PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Tschetter and Ringstad. The Motion carried. 3. Approval of Monday, November 27, 2017 Meeting Minutes: MOTION BY TSCHETTER, SECONDED BY KALLBERG TO APPROVE THE MONDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2017 PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. V VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Tschetter and Ringstad. The Motion carried. 4. Public Hearings: A. PDEV17-001038 – 15780 Skyline Avenue NW – Variance – The property owners are requesting a variance to construct a screen porch with upper level deck on the northwest side of the house. The request is to position the structure at a 51-foot setback from the ordinary high-water elevation at 15780 Skyline Avenue NW in the R-1 SD (Low Density Residential Shoreland District). PID: 251430640. Planner Schwabe introduced the request to consider approval of a resolution denying a variance from the minimum lake setback for a property in the R-1 SD (Low Density Residential Shoreland) Zoning District. The property is located along the northern shores of Lower Prior Lake, east side of Crystal Cove (Mud Bay); currently containing a single-family dwelling with an existing lakeside deck. She explained the history, current circumstances, issues, and recommended a motion. She presented a resolution, location map, applicant narrative dated November 15, 2017, proposed survey dated November 15, 2017, elevation sketch and photos of existing residence. Commission Comments/Questions: Tschetter asked if there is consideration for the fact that this is a screened in porch versus a deck or any other distinction to the structure being proposed or is any addition on the North side of the home subject to the same criteria. Planner Schwabe explained any addition to the structure would have the same setback requirements. Kallberg asked if there is a floor plan of the upper level; stating that it is critical to deifier the layout of the upper door. Fleming asked for clarification on location of door. Kallberg mentioned the difficulty in placement of the furniture of the upper level. Planner Schwabe responded the applicant did not supply a floor plan of the master bedroom. Applicant Richard and Carol Schriber, current address 10507 Rich Road, Bloomington, MN and 15780 Skyline Avenue Prior Lake, MN. Mr. Schriber commented on working with Staff has been more than pleasant; however, they are here tonight as they disagree with Staff’s findings. He explained why they are 2 requesting this variance, including furniture location, obstruction of lake view and symmetry and roofline difficulties. Mrs. Schriber asked if that concluded the questions regarding the size of the room and floor plan. Kallberg mentioned typically there is an architecturally drawn elevations of the structure. Mr. Schriber mentioned there is an engineering drawing of the structure that was asked for by Staff; he said they would be glad to supply that information. Fleming stated the elevation is not a requirement; however, it would assist in the visual perspective. He asked what the front to rear dimension of the northwest elevation; length of home. Planer Schwabe explained she believed it is 8 feet from the northeast corner to the northwest corner of the existing structure. Fleming asked what the length of the proposed structure. Planner Schwabe replied the applicant is proposing 14 x 14-foot addition. Tieman asked what the main objective to get the addition to the front of the home. Mrs. Schriber replied door placement and explained the use of the entire wall. Tschetter asked if there are concerns in regarding the size, including footings and proximity to the water table/water line. Planner Schwabe responded that the DNR would like more information if this plan was to move forward regarding the depths of the footings as it relates to the flood plain. Tschetter mentioned he is trying to be sympathetic with the placement and the proximity to the shoreline. He said the concern about wall placement with the door is not as important to him as the roofline. He asked if they have considered other positioning options. Mr. Schriber replied no there really isn’t other options. He commented on the proximity of the property line on the other side and said they are not asking to go any closer to the lake. MOTION BY RINGSTAD, SECONDED BY TIEMAN TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON 4A AT 6:25 P.M. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Ringstad and Tschetter. The Motion carried. Public Comment: None. MOTION BY RINGSTAD, SECONDED BY TIEMAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:26 P.M. ON ITEM 4A. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Ringstad and Tschetter. The Motion carried. Commissioners Comments: Kallberg commented on the existing structure being at the 51-foot setback and the deck already existing. He asked if there is a variance of record on the existing deck. He explained why the setback on front cannot be changed. He stated he would like to see a floor plan of the room, suggested room arrangements, commented on staff’s recommendations and lack of difficulties; therefore, agrees with Staff’s recommendation to deny the request as presented. Tieman said he would like to find a reason to support a variance on this; however, without a practical reason besides the doorway, he cannot come up with supporting reasoning. He said he is not supportive of this variance. Ringstad agreed with his fellow Commissioners, understands the applicants points and feels the variance criteria has not been met. He commented on the conforming lot and wants versus needs. He stated he would not be supporting this agenda item this evening. Tschetter said he is sympathetic to request as he sees practical and functional challenges with moving the structure further back and is not comfortable in denying this request and felt there is opportunity to add value to this property. This can be done in a way that is consistent with the homes around it and do so by encroaching no closer to the shoreline than the home is currently position. He said he can see the practical challenges associated with this request and he is in favor of approving the variance. Fleming stated this is a tough decision. He commented on how rare it is that Staff recommends denial of a variance. He commented on Commissioner Tschetter’s comments as being empathic to the points raised by the applicants and the symmetry of the home as well as the difficulties of aligning the door. He 3 stated the five-point criteria have not been met; therefore, it is difficult for him to support this variance request. MOTION BY RINGSTAD, SECONDED BY KALBERG TO DENY A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM LAKE SETBACK FOR A PROEPRTY IN THE R-1 (LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL) ZONING DISTRICT. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Ringstad. Nay by Tschetter. The Motion carried four to one. B. PDEV17-001039 – 16323 Main Avenue SE – Variance – PLate on Main, LLC is requesting a height variance from 25 feet to 17 feet to allow construction of a 3,500-square foot restaurant at 16323 Main Avenue SE, located in the TC (Town Center) Use District. PID: 250020330. Community Development Director McCabe introduced the request to consider approval of a resolution approving a height variance from 25 feet to 17 feet on a one story commercial building at 16323 Main Avenue SE, located in the TC (Town Center) Use District. He explained the history, current circumstances, issues, and recommended a motion. He presented a location map, proposed site plan and proposed building elevations. Commission Comments/Questions: Ringstad questioned if the other structures on the other side of Main Street are all approximately the same in height; therefore, if this was approved this evening would you see possible softening of this with future requests that perhaps come in the future years. Director McCabe agreed and explained other variances in the downtown recently. He explained the two-story requirement was put in place in 2007. He said Staff will be considering an ordinance amendment in the future. Tieman stated he is glad we are moving forward with this. Kallberg asked about uncertainty of financing and delay of the project with the possibility of the variance lapsing. Director McCabe explained there are no financial issues, the project should proceed and the applicant mentioned opening in the fall of 2018. Applicant William Peterson, 15291 Edgewater Circle NE. He is with his son Andrew Peterson. Andrew Peterson, 1017 St. Paul Avenue in St. Paul, MN. William Peterson stated his son is a project designer. He thanked Director McCabe for working on this project with them. He commented on building a cornerstone for that part of town and knows that the Community is asking for a nice restaurant. He explained the background of their experiences and listed some other restaurants their contractor has built. He explained the reasoning for the variance and why the height of 17 feet is desired. Andrew Peterson added comments on the varying roof levels and heights. William Peterson commented on the building economics. Fleming asked if they would share the menu. William said it is an upscale American eater and explained the menu. Fleming thanked the applicant for coming to Prior Lake and asked the applicant to share their thoughts on traffic during the lunch hour. William Peterson explained the road and parking. He commented on their dinners, lunch, and brunch. Ringstad asked about seating in this facility. William explained the seating throughout the building and the patio; 170 at full capacity Tschetter commented on being excited to see the new facility and what it has to offer. William Peterson mentioned they are from the area and the restaurant ownership will include other Prior Lake residents. He explained the community involvement. MOTION BY TSCHETTER TIEMAN, SECONDED BY TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON 4A AT 6:53 P.M. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Ringstad and Tschetter. The Motion carried. 4 Public Comment: No Comment. MOTION BY TSCHETTER, SECONDED BY RINGSTAD TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:55 P.M. ON ITEM 4A. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Ringstad and Tschetter. The Motion carried. Commissioners Comments: Kallberg commented on parking and asked about private parking versus public. Director McCabe explained the private versus public parking. Kallberg mentioned the height of the building and said he would be supporting this agenda item. Tieman said he is supporting this agenda item and appreciates the symmetry as 25 feet might not be practical for this use. Ringstad commented on being business friendly; great fit and thanked the applicant. Tschetter commented on the parking concerns and signage. He stated he is enthusiastic with this facility. He commented on the spark and attraction to the community. Fleming agrees with comments made by commissioners. He said it is an investment, working well with staff. He commented on signage, meeting the 5-point threshold and is very excited regarding the menu. MOTION BY TSCHETTER, SECONDED BY KALLBERG TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION APPROVING A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR A PROEPRTY IN THE TC (TOWN CENTER) ZONING USE DISTRICT. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Ringstad and Tschetter. The Motion carried. 5. Old Business: No Old Business. 6. New Business: No New Business Announcements: Cm commented on the next planning commission meeting 7. Adjournment: MOTION BY KALLBERG, SECONDED BY TSCHETTER TO ADJORN THE MONDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2017 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 6:59 P.M. VOTE: Ayes by Fleming, Tieman, Kallberg, Tschetter and Ringstad. The Motion carried. Sandra Woods, Community Development Service Assistant