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Home My WebLink AboutPublic Forum handout (Connors) ...-. ~ r.t' . - ~ [", It. '1 11/ '... .""'_ ~ -0- ~ -~ ~ ') Angie, thank you for sending the draft to me. I would like to remind you that I asked the members of the PAC to \ go look at the park to see for themselves, what I was talking about Also AI didn't show " exactly how much space that the new playground would take up. He showed the old play ground in thea rendering. Also it should be stated that I said that you were flufifng me off when it was said that PAc would survey park users over the next two years...thank you Tim Connors , ...'. / 'T/;tlJ/lJrSfO U t., '~.. tl C#",'d.- 1t"~{; /-p. !f: ,ak.al ~'l{J, f~'C 1.~);.le~7;;~' '\ JZpJ dAct/.J'fJ1 ~. 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Carl Grayson, Tim Libert. and Mike Feriancek Staff Present: Angela Barstad. AI Friedges Public Present: Joe Ziska (City Council). Mark Schroeder (pLAY). and Tim Connors Meetin2 caned to order at 6:02 om bv Aalde Barstad Aooroval of the Odober 11. 2005 Meetia~ ~utes: Todd's name was mistyped as Tom. Angie will correct the error. Motion by Todd Loose to approve the October 11. 2005 Meeting Minutes. Second by Pat McFadden, approved Aooroval of November A2enda - Angie Barstad added the following to the agenda: Vote in PAC Chair. Play structure at Sandpoint Beach, Ponds Concession Construction Update, Woods in the Wilds Vote in PAC Chair and introduce new PAC members - Pat McFadden made a motion to vote in Mike Feriancek as the new PAC Chair. Second by Todd Loose, approved. Tim Libert and Carl Grayson introduced themselves. Angie Barstad handed out the PAC By-Laws to all new members. Park$. Athletics. and Recreation Facility Lon Ranee Plannine: Task Foree - Angie Barstad stated there were no new updates since the last PAC meeting with the PAR Task Force as there next meeting will be held Thursday. November 1 ph. Angie Barstad handed out the agenda for the next Task Force meeting and informed everyone in attendance at the PAC meeting that they are welcome to attend the Task Force meeting. PAC Recommendations to City Couneil for Watzts Docks. Wheel Fun. Lakefront Skate Park - Angie Barstad presented the PAC with the City Council Agenda Report she created for the November 21 st, 2005 City Council Meeting. This report outlined the recommendations discussed at the October PAC meeting regarding Watzls Docks. Wheel FlUl and Lakefront Skate Park. Todd Loose motioned to approve the report. Second by Mike Feriancek, approved. Fee Schedules for 2006 - Todd Loose recommended we increase the following fees: Lakefcont Pavilion Rental for Non-Residents from $75 per hour to $100. Park Permits for Non Residents from $35 to $50, Boat Trailer Parking from $15 to $20. Angie Barstad recommended that the minimum Lakefront Pavilion Rental time during the week should be increased from 1 hour to 2 hours. Before the PAC will approve the recommended increases to the Lakefront Pavilion rentals they wanted Angie Barstad to do a feasibility study with cities around Prior Lake to see how much they charge for pavilion rentals. Angie Barstad will gather this information and bring it to the December PAC meeting. The PAC will vote on all increases at the December meeting. ,.. 8B~ ......,.... ,.t,"" Community member, Tim Connors, explained to the PAC his issues with the new play structure being constructed at Sandpoint Beach. Tim Connors stated that he feels the play structure takes up too much "green space" at the beach, which causes Sandpoint Beach to lose its "flavor". Tim Connors feels the structure should never have been put in that area. Since the structure is almost complete and already paid for, he doesn't feel it should be taken out, rather we should allow for additional "green space" elsewhere at that location. Tim Connors suggested we take out the Volleyball courts and put grass in that area. AI Friedges presented the PAC with drawings and an aerial view of the Sandpoint Beach area, showing exactly how much space the new structure will occupy as well as photos of the s1ructure under construction. Al Friedges explained that since Sandpoint Beach is a Community Park it attracts a larger volume and more diverse group of people then a neighborhood park. For that reason we offer playground equipment at Sandpoint Beach. The existing playground equipment was not ADA (American Disabilities Act) compliant. AI Friedges explained that all play structures must be updated per ADA requirements. This entails such items as: grade of land from the handicap parking area to the playground, wheel chair accessible ramp to the equipment, etc. In order to comply with ADA standards the playground area has been enlarged slightly. This play structure will be ADA compliant for young toddlers (ages 2 - 5) and older children (ages 5 - 12). The PAC believes this is a great improvement to the Sandpoint Beach playground area, with minimal encroachment to the beach. If Tim Connors would like to remove a Volleyball court the PAC would have to do an evaluation on the use of that area and present the findings to the City Council before anything of that nature could be considered. Tim Connors felt the PAC was "fluffmg" Iputting him off on this. Angie Barstad explained that the playground and volleyball area are highly used in the summer by all families with children and that there would be a great number of people disappointed in the removal of the play s1ructure or the Volleyball Courts. Tim Connors stated he is getting a petition together and will present his complaint to the new City Council members. He also stated he plans to write an editorial on this issue in the local paper. Tim Connors then left the meeting with no resolution. AI Friedges explained to the PAC why the play structure could not be put at any other area in Sandpoint Beach (i.e. more costly, too close to the busy parking lot, sewer drainage in the way, etc.). The PAC supports the Sandpoint Beach playground project. Ponds Concession Construction Uudate - AI Friedges stated the block work is done and everything is still running on schedule for this project. The Woods ip the Wilds - Mike Feriancek stated he was concerned about how close the playground will be to the lake at this location and felt there should be a fence constructed between the Jake and the playground area. AI Friedges recommended discussing this at the December PAC meeting so the PAC can come up with some criteria for putting fences around pond/park areas in the city for consistency. This item will be place on the December PAC agenda. Meeting adjourned, 8:30 pm