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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2006
1. Call to Order:
Chairman Lemke called the December 11, 2006, Planning Commission meeting to order
at 6:00 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Billington, Fleming, Lemke, Perez and
Ringstad, Planning Coordinator Danette Moore, Planner Jeff Matzke, Assistant City
Engineer Larry Poppler and Recording Secretary Connie Carlson.
2. Roll Call:
Billington
Fleming
Lemke
Perez
Ringstad
Present
Present
Present
Present
Present
3. Approval of Minutes:
The Minutes from the November 27,2006, Planning Commission meeting were approved
as presented.
4.
Consent:
None
5. Public Hearings:
Commissioner Lemke read the Public Hearing Statement and opened the meeting.
A. EP06-178 & 179 (CONTINUED) Ryland Homes has submitted an
application for preliminary plat and preliminary planned unit development for the
development of 32 single family homes to be known as Stonebriar. This property is
located northwest of MN TH 13, south of County Road 12, and east of Pheasant
Meadow Lane.
Planning Coordinator Danette Moore presented the planning report dated December 11,
2006, on file in the office of the City Planning Department.
Ryland Homes has applied for approval of a development to be known as Stonebriar on
the property located south ofCSAH 12 (l70th Street), northwest ofMN TH 13, and east
of Pheasant Meadow Lane. The application includes the following requests:
. Approve a Planned Unit Development Preliminary Plan;
. Approve a Preliminary Plat consisting of 10 acres to be subdivided into 32 lots and
three (3) outlots to allow for single family units, parkland, ponding and a trail.
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On November 27,2006, the Planning Commission held a public hearing on the proposed
development and continued the hearing to assure adequate time for public comment. At
the November 27th hearing, the Planning Commission discussed the following items:
. Demographics of future homeowners
. Assuring price points of housing units
. Architectural diversity
. Landscaping requirements
. Merits of the project as a Planned Unit Development.
Section 1106.400 of the Zoning ordinance lists the types of uses and standards allowed
under a PUD. The PUD provisions offer maximum flexibility in various ways, including
setbacks, building heights, and so on. The developer is requesting modifications to the
setbacks, minimum lot areas, minimum lot widths, landscaping tree placement, and a
private street. In return, the developer is offering the following:
. Park dedication fee in the amount of$127,500.
. 2.14 acres ofland to accommodate a trail, play structure, and natural open space
(1.29 acres of dedicated parkland).
. Construction of an off-site trail extension from the edge of the development to the
intersection ofCSAH 12 and MN TH 13.
. 10ft wide trail extension to Pheasant Meadow Lane constructed to allow
emergency vehicle access.
. Cash contribution for the construction of a play structure ($3,000) and pergola
($5,400.) in Outlot B.
. Four (4) homes at a base price below $400,000.
. Architectural diversity to restrict housing duplication.
Since the November 2ih Planning Commission public hearing, staff has worked with the
developer and now feels the architectural diversity element of the PUD can be assured
prior to building permit issuance. However, staff still has concerns related to the
developer providing a specific base price as an element for meeting the PUD criteria.
While staff supports what the developer is proposing, staff does not believe the developer
is proposing to provide a mechanism that will assure and enforce the base price. Prior to
City Council review, staff would like the developer to provide resolution on how this can
be assured.
The Engineering memorandum dated October 27, 2006, states the developer must refine
the plans to meet Public Work Design Manual requirements. However, none of these
revisions will impact the general design of the proposed plat. For that reason, if the
Planning Commission finds it appropriate, the plat can proceed to the City Council,
subject to conditions.
If the Planning Commission finds the PUD and preliminary plat acceptable, staff would
recommend the following conditions be attached:
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Fleming - How many lots would be affected by the proposed setback modification?
Moore responded "In talking to the engineer this afternoon, it would be more of the
smaller interior (3) lots that would be affected by the reduced setbacks." Moore pointed
out a few of the reduced lots. There were more side yard reductions that were also
interior lots.
William Baker, Pheasant Meadows, said after conversations today, his mind is more at
ease with the additional landscape and buffering. His only recommendation to staff and
the developer is to have an earlier contact with the neighbors so they can come and
express their concerns. It is easier to adapt to the changes. It bothers and upsets some of
the residents as they were not informed of the earlier developments.
Perez questioned if the developers encouraged to have a meeting with the neighborhood.
Moore responded "very much so." Anytime a developer comes forward with a concept
or preliminary plat, staff always encourages the developer to have neighborhood
meetings numerous times in the process.
The meeting was closed at 6:18 p.m.
Comments from the Commissioners:
Billington:
. I agree with Mr. Baker that early communication is beneficial to all parties. I
think Staff does a good job in communicating to the public; however there is
always room for improvement.
. Explained the key purposes of a PUD; the process and the City's goal for housing.
. Likes the developers paying for nature centers, trails and parks that benefit all
citizens, which is what we are striving for in a PUD.
. Supports the high quality and diversity in housing for the City. The objective is to
provide a variety of affordable "high quality" housing. Does not like the term
"affordable" because it is subjective, I prefer "moderately priced". There is an
attempt in this project to allow for that.
. Spoke on the housing goals and felt Prior Lake has done an admirable job in the
past.
. Supports the project. Everyone is a winner in the long term.
Perez:
. Did not attend the previous meeting but read the minutes. One of the merits of
the project of a PUD is the flexibility with the housing. That is without the price
points. It was good to see the developer thinking "outside the box".
. Staff is not comfortable with how the price points will be regulated.
. Agree with the conditions set up by Staff. Support.
Fleming:
. Support the PUD and concur with Staff s recommendation.
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. Echo Commissioner Billington's comments on the alignment of the PUD concept
with the ordinances and 2030 Comprehensive Plan.
. Would appreciate sometime in this process an update on how we were able or not
able to develop or implement some sort of mechanism around price points. It
would be nice to know for the future.
Ringstad:
. The plan has improved a lot from four months ago where it fell way short of the
PUD criteria.
. Agree with Commissioner Billington with the term "moderate price" housing
rather than "affordable housing". As we surf through this process, I believe the
word "affordable" was a little misleading to what people feel is affordable
housing.
. In respect with the 2 trees in the front yard and agree with staff completely and
recommend we (Commissioners) all do that.
. As a way to assure compliance with respect to the four units that will be sold
under $400,000, I do have a suggestion. If staff agrees, to have the developer post
a Letter of Credit to the City - maybe $75,000 per unit times four units and have
the developer post a $300,000 Letter of Credit along with this approval and with
every sale under $400,000 we see go through. The one-fourth or $75,000 could
be reduced.
. Does not share the same amount of enthusiasm as the rest of the Commissioners
as it barely meets the PUD requirements as we have looked at projects in the past.
. With all the conditions, and if the Commissioners agree to a Letter of Credit to
assure compliance, I would support.
Moore commented Ringstad had a great idea and staff looked into a Letter of Credit. The
problem is the developer providing staff with verification of compliance of under
$400,000. The problem is a number of upgrades that exceed the $400,000, the developer
was not able to provide anything but a spread sheet they create internally for a signed
contract between the homeowner and developer. The biggest issue is how staff verifies
compliance with under $400,000. If the house sells for under $400,000 it is not a
problem. We are assured the condition is met, it is when it's over that and we have no
way of calling up the upgrades.
Ringstad said staff could look up the CRV's at the County. Moore said staff understood
that. It's the upper $440,000 range that is a problem.
Brian Sullivan explained a contract that would break down the numbers showing the
price of the house and upgrades and could get staff a copy of that document.
Moore said as long as it was a legal document it would meet the City's needs. Sullivan
felt there is a way to make it work.
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Moore said staff's concern is this development has only 4 units, however a precedence is
being set on how we are going to handle this in the future with larger subdivisions that
would be harder to enforce.
Fleming suggested the proposed contract is run past the City Attorney and the City
Council is aware of the situation.
Lemke:
. A couple of weeks ago he agreed with Ringstad's comments on this PUD. The
modifications the developer is asking for are pretty minor. Density is not affected
- it still meets the Rl requirements. Impervious surface is not being increased.
The main modifications are a few setbacks and reduced lot size. What the City is
getting in return is moderate priced housing. Twenty-three percent of the site is
going to be open space, which the trade off in my mind is the smaller lot sizes.
The developer is trying to create a separation from the back yards and Highway
13. In doing that, the criteria are being met.
. I don't believe the yard sizes can't be met for traditional yard sizes.
. It doesn't make a great deal of difference for the tree placement. I personally
think two trees in the front yard may look "stuffed in" with 60 foot lots.
. I think the way the developer put this together works well. Ifhe says "one in the
front and one in the back" to enhance the project, I am willing to go with that.
Correct me ifl'm wrong but I believe said there is no real policy reason to have
two in the front yard, it's just that we have always done it that way and maybe we
should try it this way and see what it looks like.
Open Discussion:
Perez - Agree with staff to stay consistent with the tree placement. My preference is to
keep 2 trees in the front yard.
Ringstad - Every other PUD has found a way to make 2 trees work in the front. I don't
like setting a precedent unless there has been more of a process than a comment. Support
staff.
MOTION BY BILLINGTON, SECOND BY PEREZ, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL
OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE PUD PLAN FOR STONEBRIAR,
SUBJECT TO THE LISTED CONDITIONS. DEFER CONDITION 6 TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY FOR REVIEW.
Vote indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
This will go before the City Council on January 2, 2007.
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B. 06-187 William and Sharon Reis are requesting a variance from the Zoning
Ordinance requirements to allow for the realignment of property lines on properties
in the Agricultural Zoning District. The properties are 3941, 3913, & 3877
Marschall Road.
Planner Jeff Matzke presented the planning report dated December 11, 2006, on file in
the office of the City Planning Department.
William and Sharon Ries, Ruth and David Yarusso and Robert and Paula Britz are
requesting variances from the Zoning Ordinance to allow for the realignment of property
lines on sites within the Agricultural (A) Zoning District. In order to' realign the property
lines, the following variances are required:
1. Parcel A (Ries Property-3941 Marschall Road):
. A 0.7 foot variance from the 20 foot minimum side yard setback in the
Agricultural Zoning District (Section 1102.205).
2. Parcel B (Yarusso Property- 3913 Marschall Road):
. A 0.7 foot variance from the 20 foot minimum side yard setback in the
Agricultural Zoning District (Section 1102.205)
. An 8.58 acre variance from the minimum required 10 acre lot area in
the Agricultural Zoning District (Section 1102.205).
3. Parcel C (Britz Property-3877 Marschall Road):
. A 7.66 acre variance from the required minimum 10 acre lot area in
the Agricultural Zoning District. (Section 1102.205).
The property is zoned Agricultural, and is guided R-RD (Rural Density) on the 2030
Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map. The property owners of the three contiguous parcels
are proposing to realign the property lines between the three parcels to the originally
understood legal boundaries. In 1982 the property owners of Parcels A and B obtained
building permits and constructed pole barns near their shared property line. Due to a
previous survey error the shared property line was identified as being located
approximately 20 feet to the north of its actual legal location. In recent years surveys of
Parcel C and the property to the south of Parcel A were completed. These surveys
indicated to the property owners of Parcels A and B that the locations of the two shared
property lines were incorrectly represented on the previous surveys that were created
when they purchased their properties and placed the pole barns on the sites.
The existing pole barn on Parcel A currently lies over the northerly property line as a
result of a previous survey error, the applicants are proposing to realign the existing
property lines to the originally interpreted locations. In order for this to take place, a
variance from the minimum side yard setback is needed for Parcels A and B, and well as
a variance from the minimum lot area for Parcels B and C. The newly proposed
properties will be required to be replatted and recorded at the county offices. The
property owners have also requested a waiver of the platting requirements which will be
reviewed and acted upon by the City Council. The proposed realignment of the shared
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property line between Parcel A and B is placed equidistant between the two existing pole
barns that were constructed; however, the structures still require a 0.7 foot variance from
the 20 foot minimum side yard setback requirement for the Agricultural Zoning District.
The lot areas of Parcels B and C are proposed to be reduced to 1.42 net acres and 2.33 net
acres respectively. The further reductions in these areas will increase the nonconformity
of the lot areas (which require a minimum 10 acres in the Agricultural District), and
therefore a variance is required.
The three property owners are all in support of the proposed change. The requested
variances and subsequent realigned property lines would have little impact on the existing
lot shapes and sizes. Also the requested variances would improve the position of existing
structures on the lots and prevent any further confusion on the location of the correct
property lines. Based on this analysis and the findings listed above, staff recommends
approval of the requested variances.
Fleming questioned if anyone was able to locate the original survey. Matzke said he
found the original building permits from 1982, however, full surveys were not required at
the time. Surveys were not maintained by staff.
Fleming said he would support the application. Everything seems to be in order and
agreed with staffs analysis. He was pleased three neighbors were in agreement and
working together so the Commissioners were not deliberating any adverse possession
issues. Supported the application.
Comments from the Public:
Applicant, William Ries, felt staff covered the information very well. They bought the
property in 1971 and were not aware of the changed lot lines until a neighbor started to
expand a few years ago. The neighbors were unaware of the problem and thought they
were meeting the setbacks. It was quite a surprise.
The public hearing closed at 6:46 p.m.
Comments from the Commissioners:
Ringstad:
. Agreed with Fleming's assessment - the hardship criteria have been met. It's nice
that all three neighbors are in agreement.
. It is really just a housekeeping item. Support.
Billington:
. Full support of staffs and fellow Commissioners. Support.
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Perez:
. Question on the Discussion portion of the report on page 2 - What is the correct
net acre? Matzke responded the Resolution states 7.66 but will be revised to 7.67
as mentioned in the report.
. Agree with fellow Commissioners - the hardship criteria have been met. Support.
Fleming:
. Support.
Lemke:
. Support the hardship criteria have been met. This was no fault of the property
owners and will support.
MOTION BY PEREZ, SECOND BY BILLINGTON, ADOPTING RESOLUTION 06-
18PC APPROVING A 0.7 FOOT V ARIANCE FROM THE 20 FOOT MINIMUM SIDE
YARD SETBACK IN THE AGRICULTURE ZONING DISTRICT.
Vote taken indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY PEREZ, SECOND BY FLEMING, ADOPTING RESOLUTION 06-19PC
APPROVING A 0.7 FOOT V ARlANCE FROM THE 20 FOOT MINIMUM SIDE
YARD SETBACK IN THE AGRICULTURE ZONING DISTRICT AND AN 8.58
ACRE VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 10 ACRE LOT AREA IN
THE AGRICULTURE ZONING DISTRICT.
Vote taken indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY PEREZ, SECOND BY BILLINGTON, ADOPTING RESOLUTION 06-
20PC APPROVING A 7.66 ACRE VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED
10 ACRE LOT AREA IN THE AGRICULTURE ZONING DISTRICT.
Vote taken indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
Lemke explained the appeal process.
6.
Old Business:
None
7.
New Business:
None
8. Announcements and Correspondence:
The December 26, meeting will be cancelled.
The new Council Chambers will not be ready until the second week in January or early
February when the technology is tested and complete.
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9. Adjournment:
The meeting adjourned at 6:50 pm.
Connie Carlson
Recording Secretary
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