HomeMy WebLinkAbout4 - Manitor Road Civil Defense Siren
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BACKGROUND:
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LARRY J. ANDERSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS
CONSIDER MANITOU ROAD CIVIL DEFENSE SIREN
LOCATION APPEAL SUBMITTED BY ED MALONE
AUGUST 6, 1990
The purpose of this Agenda item is to provide
the Manitou Road property owners a forum to
appeal the location of the civil defense siren
to be located in their neighborhood. To date,
in an effort to work with the neighbors, the
siren has not been erected.
On January 16, 1990, the City Council
approved the Bid Award for the installation of
three sirens.
As part of the Agenda, Manitou Road was chosen
as one of the siren sites. Raspberry Ridge
Park was looked at as an alternative to
Manitou Road, but not implemented.
During the placement of the sirens, the
residents on Manitou Road requested that the
siren on Manitou Road not be installed. Staff
met with the residents at a neighborhood
meeting, and with representatives on different
occasions, in an attempt to resolve the issue.
The Manitou Road residents have suggested that
the siren be installed in a different
location. Enclosed please find a letter
outlining the neighbors' concerns as
identified by Ed Malone.
City staff investigated alternative locations.
A decibel meter was utilized by staff to
estimate the coverage provided by the sirens
installed this spring. The purpose of this
test was to determine how far the sirens can
be moved and still provide adequate coverage
to all properties.
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As a result of the test, staff provided a
1700' lineal area along Manitou Road where the
siren could be erected and still provide
coverage. staff met with the residents to
propose the alternative locations, but no new
sites were chosen. Staff believes that there
are sites on Manitou Road within the
acceptable area that will be an aesthetic
improvement upon the original proposed
location. However, these new sites will
obviously impact other residents. staff will
discuss this at the meeting.
Currently, the siren at Manitou Road is
on its side, ready to be installed.
sirens in the Sand Point and Island
neighborhoods have been erected, and the
has received no complaints since they
been installed.
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DISCUSSION:
The neighborhood has requested that the siren
be placed in Raspberry Ridge Park (reference
letter from Ed Malone.) Staff has researched
the placement of the siren in the Raspberry
Ridge Park. The additional cost to place the
siren in the park is $6,800.00 above the cost
to install it on Manitou Road. An access road
would have to be installed from CSAH 21
through 500 feet of woods and continue
easterly to the high area of the park. Power
would be extended from CSAH 21. The park
location would provide a little better service
area to the west but the advantage of the
additional service area is offset by future
maintenance costs to maintain the service
road. Ed Malone's letter indicates this site
provides an elevation advantage by being
thirty (30) feet above Manitou Road. The
actual elevation of the hi9hest point is
eighteen (l8) feet above the s1te on Manitou
Road, and the location chosen in the ~ark
would be six (6) feet higher than Man1tou
Road. Any higher elevation would be of no
advantage.
The access road would require 500 feet of tree
removal from CSAH 21, and would be vastly
different than the proposed RasJ?berry Ridge
Trail system according to B1l1 Mangan,
Director of Parks and Recreation. The trail
created as a result of the siren would not be
consistent with the proposed trail identified
in the Park Comprehensive Plan, and would
ALTERNATIVES:
certainly have a low priority for funding
compared to Lakefront Park trails. Creation
of a trail for the siren in this area is not
consistent with the reason this area was
dedicated as part of the Raspberry Ridge
Park.
Another point raised in the letter is the loss
of tax revenue from a devaluation of
properties in the neighborhood. In a phone
conversation with LeRoy Arnoldi on July 31, he
stated that the value of a house for tax
purposes does not change whether a siren is
located there or not.
Initially, Ed Malone indicated that he would
ask the residents if they would be willin9 to
~ay the additional $6,800.00 to have the S1ren
1n Raspberry Ridge Park. The residents are
not willing to pay to have the siren moved.
Alternative #2 which Ed Malone has addressed
is too far from Beach Street to provide
coverage and the highest area along CSAH 2l
is nearly 40 feet below Manitou Road. From
an elevation stand point, this area is not
acceptable to provide coverage.
Staff recognizes that siren placement is not
an exact science; however, based uJ?on known
factors and actual tests the locat1ons that
will provide siren coverage are along Manitou
Road and in Raspberry Ridge Park. Staff did
provide an area along Manitou Road,
seventeen-hundred feet in length, where the
siren could be placed. No location on Manitou
Road is acceptable to the residents.
Staff will take additional readings on August
l, 1990 along with Ed Malone as noted in his
letter.
At this point, staff and the residents are at
an impasse and the issue is being placed on
the Council Agenda for resolution.
The alternatives are as follows:
1. Construct the sirens at the location
previously approved by the Council, or in
the area along Manitou Road which Staff
has indicated as an acceptable location.
Any other location along Manitou Road
would require the adjacent ~roperty
owners concurrence. There 1S no
concurrence at this point.
RECOMMENDATION:
BUDGET IMPACT:
ACTION REQUIRED:
2. Construct the siren in Raspberry Ridge
Park and increase the cost of the siren
installation from $12,500.00 to
$l9,300.00. The additional amount would
have to be paid from the contingency
Fund.
3. Do not provide siren coverage by not
installing the siren. This 1S not an
acceptable solution.
staff recommendation is that
placement along Manitou Road is
interest of the public, for
reasons:
the siren
in the best
the fOllowing
1. Nearly the same coverage is provided as
the Raspberry Ridge coverage. The
coverage difference does not warrant an
additional expense for the construction.
2. The expenditures of $12,500.00 versus
$19,300.00.
3. The sirens at Sand Point and Island view
are erected and no complaints have been
received to date.
4. Property values will not decrease as a
result of the siren placement.
The budget would not be impacted if the siren
remains at the designated location.
The action required varies depending on the
Council's action.
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July 30, 1990
Mr. Dave Unmacbt
Prior Lake City Hall
Prior Lake, MN
Re: Proposed Manitou Road Weather Warning Siren
Dear Mr. Unmacht:
As you are well aware, we have been engaged in a lengthy process to
achieve resolution of the proposed installation of a Weather Warning Siren in
the Manitou Road neighborhood.
As the designated representative of the Manitou Road neighborhood, I am
writing you this letter to formally elpress our opposition to the location
proposed by the City of Prior Lake. We feel the installation along Manitou
Road would detract significantly from the natural bueaty of the area and
,also, would adversely affect property values. The long term effect of this,
assuming periodic turnover of properties, would be a reduced level of
property tal revenue to the City.
In view of the above, we are pleased to offer two alternatives which we
believe satisfy the city's objective of providing adequate weather warning
for the citizens of Prior Lake at a reasonable cost. These alternatives are
discussed in the following paragraphs and a map is attacbed for reference.
Alternative I
This site (shown as green on attached map) is located in the conservation
area off County Road 21. This site provides the advantages of being the
highest elevation in the area (30 feet above the Manitou site) and the siren
would not materially affect the aesthetics of this area. Better coverage would
be provided by this site for the homes and farms to the north and west.
We understand that using this site would require an additional elpenditrure
of $6800 to provide an access road and electrical service. We feel this
eIpense should be borne by the City and we feel this is justified for the
following reasons. A portion of this cost can be covered by the parks
department budget due to their plans for developing hiking and biking uails
in this area. The remainder of the cost can be justified based on the
retention of stable and/or increasing tal revenues from the Manitou Road
neighborhood.
Alternative 2
Site 2 (shown as blue on the attacched map) is located on County Road 21.
The advantage of this site is that no additional cost would be involved and
there would be better coverage to the north and west. However, a portion of
the Chatonka Beach area would fall outside of coverage circles as defined by
the city. It is our opinion that this area may be covered by an elisting siren,
and as a matter of interest , I am gOing to take sound level readings in the
Chatonka neighborhood during the Wednesday, August I, 1990 siren test. I
will be pleased to share this data with the City.
We appreciate your cooperation in working with us to resolve this situation
and look forward to the installation of the siren at one of the proposed
alternative sites. Please call me if you wish to further discuss this matter.
Sincerely,
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Edward J. Malone
cc: Mr. Larry Anderson
Manitou Neighbors (22)
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JuJy 30, 1990
Mr. Dave Unmacht
Prior Lake City Hall
Prior Lake, MN
Re: Proposed Manitou Road Weather Warning Siren
Dear Mr. Unmacht:
As you are well aware, we have been engaged in a lengthy process to
achieve resolution of the proposed installation of a Weather Warning Siren in
the Manitou Road neighborhood.
As the designated representative of the Manitou Road neighborhood, I am
writing you this letter to formally elpress our opposition to the location
proposed by the City of Prior Lake. We feel the installation along Manitou
Road would detract significantly from the natural bueaty of the area and
,also, would adversely affect property values. The long term effect of this,
assuming periodic turnover of properties, would be a reduced level of
property tal revenue to the City.
In view of the above, we are pleased to offer two alternatives which we
believe satisfy the city's objective of providing adequate weather warning
for the citizens of Prior Lake at a reasonable cost. These alternatives are
discussed in the fOllOWing paragraphs and a map is attached for reference.
Alternative 1
This site (shown as green on attached map) is located in the conservation
area off County Road 21. This site provides the advantages of being the
highest elevation in the area (30 feet above the Manitou site) and the siren
would not materially affect the aesthetics of this area. Better coverage would
be provided by this site for the homes and farms to the north and west.
We understand that using this site would require an additional expenditrure
of $6800 to provide an access road and electrical service. We feel this
expense should be borne by the City and we feel this is justified for the
following reasons. A portion of this cost can be covered by the parks
department budget due to their plans for developing hiking and biking trails
in this area. The remainder of the cost can be justified based on the
retention of stable and/or increasing tal revenues from the Manitou Road
neighborhood.
Alternative 2
Site 2 (shown as blue on the attacched map) is located on County Road 21.
The advantage of this site is that no additional cost would be involved and
there would be better coverage to the north and west. However, a portion of
the Chatonka Beach area would fall outside of coverage circles as defined by
the city. It is our opinion that this area may be covered by an elisting siren,
and as a matter of interest, I am going to take sound level readings in the
Chatonka neighborhood during the Wednesday, August I, 1990 siren test. I
will be pleased to share this data with the City.
We appreciate your cooperation in working with us to resolve this situation
and look forward to the installation of the siren at one of the proposed
alternative sites. Please call me if you wish to further discuss this matter.
Sincerely,
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Edward J. Malone
cc: Mr. Larry Anderson
Manitou Neighbors (22)
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