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Home My WebLink About04/17/07 MINUTES OF THE LAKE ADVISORY COMMITTEE April 17, 2007 I. CALL TO ORDER The Lake Advisory Committee (LAC) Meeting was called to order at 4:30 P.M. Members present: Dan O'Keefe, Harry Alcorn, Charlene Jasan, Jim Marchessault. Others present: Ross Bintner, Water Resources Engineer, Ken Hedberg, Council Liaison; II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion to approve prior meeting minutes, Mankowski, Alcorn - Pass (4:0) III. OLD BUSINESS A. 2nd Annual Lake Clean Up Day Proclamation: The LAC Discussed the recommended proclamation to the City Council and advised staff to add more detail about the formation of the idea at the LAC through a private resident, and the Lake Associations role in running the dive event. B. Surface Regulations: Sheriff Deputy, Bret Krick addressed the LAC about event permitting. Krick said that a event permit procedure is being put in place at the County that will detail some requirements for events that will require a sheriff permit. Krick stated that there were two issues in the recent past that prompted the reevaluation, luckily there were not injures at these last two events but they are learning experience. A 10 day structure review period is being considered, for things such as a twin platform or floating dock. Krick stated that marine events will need a 30-day advanced notice for the department to consider the permit. The triathlon and skate the lake events that prompted the review of the permitting process each had safety concerns that Krick would like to avoid in the future. Krick detailed some of the concerns of each event. Alcorn asked about what permit provisions on the snowmobile race event were not followed. Krick responded that a provision of the permit was to keep 15' separation in parking vehicles and it was not followed. Hedberg asked if there is a minimum level to define an event. Krick stated it is not yet defined. 1 Krick stated the use of recreation vehicles has been a safety concern in the pass and that issue came up again at the Skate the Lake issue. Alcorn and Marchessault both asked Krick about safety concerns and Krick stated he would continue work addressing these and other concerns. C. Future Meeting Topic - Dock Regulation: Hedberg detailed a recent City Council directive that will ask Staff to work with the LAC to study the issue of dock regulation. Alcorn asked if dock size, boat number, lifts, unique dock configurations such as double levels, or accessory structures would be looked into as part of the issue. Hedberg said it would be up to the LAC but the directive from council only included dock placement as a topic. Marchessault stated that after last years dock discussion the LAC decided to forward on the DNR recommendations saying the issue was also discussed and asked what would be missing from the regulations the LAC passed on. Hedberg stated there was no process for dispute resolution since they were only guidelines. O'Keefe said that it was a Council directive and said that for that reason the LAC should discuss it again. Alcorn asked about setting a date for a public meeting. O'Keefe asked for staff to work on setting a date. IV. OTHER BUSINESS A. MS4 Annual Public Meeting and LAC Review of City SWPPP. Sintner explained the efforts the City goes to promote feedback from residents at its annual public meeting. This federally mandated plan was created by the City to address stormwater pollution prevention in the City. Bintner explained that the program is broken up into chapters titled MCM or "minimal control measure." Bintner explained that MCM 2 requires that we hold this public meeting and ask for citizen input. Previously this meeting took place at the City Council but was moved to the LAC to provide a more informal forum for residents. Bintner explained MCM 3, Illicit discharge detection and elimination. MCM 3 requires that the City build a program to detect pollutant discharges. Bintner gave a description of what a future program might look like in the future by giving an example of how the program might work. Marchssault if the system would be in place ahead of any spill and what kind of staff time would be needed. Sintner said it was still an open question because the program is still underdevelopment. O'Keefe asked if there were plans to actively monitor for pollutants. Bintner said generally it would be visible for this program, but some sampling already takes place for chlorides and nutrients. Alcorn asked how many storm 2 outlets are in the lake. Bintner said he didn't have an exact number at this time, but he guessed there were about 70 outlets to the lake. Bintner explained MCM 4 as an in place program for construction runoff control and gave a series of before and after photos showing construction sites in the City. Before photos generally showed open dirt and erosion and after photos were taken after the City attempts to get better compliance to construction site permits. Marchessault asked if the salt and sand put down in the winters have already been cleaned up by this time of the year. Bintner summarized the sweeping program. Bintner explained MCM 6 and added that a new street sweeper has been purchased by the City that will increase the efficiency in sweeping. This sweeper is already in use and was purchased with help from a grant from the watershed district. Bintner explained MCM 1. Marchessault said he thinks more should be done to educate residents saying not to rake leaves into the lake. Bintner expanded the idea to say even catch basis directly connected are a focus. Educational. Bintner explained that a series of local governing units pool resources to jointly promote and host educational opportunities. O'Keefe opened the floor to the public, no one was in attendance. The LAC provided comment. Jasan asked about the consequences of not doing what was required by the permit. Bintner explained that depending on the program consequences vary. Some ordinances were in effect that support the MS4 and some are required to be explored. Jasan asked if there was a list of requirements in the example of a first time home buyer to educate them on these requirements. Jasan further suggested that realtors and the chamber of commerce could be conduits to the target audience. V. STAFF UPDATE A. Dock Complaint list Bintner reviewed the 2006 and 2007 complaint lists. The list contained all dock related questions or complaints received by the planning department. There were two main issues represented, dock placement and private dock rental. There were a few specific issues the generated mutlitple calls. Approximately 23 calls were received. 4 separate placement issues and 3 separate rental issues generated the majority of the 23 calls. The remaining calls were inquires from realtors and other governmental bodies. O'Keefe noted that half the complaints came from two issues. Hedberg said that an issue he knows is not represented on the list. Bintner clarified that this list was compiled by the planning department and only complaints that they received would be compiled. Alcorn asked if our 3 current guidelines were posted online. The LAC discussed the process for holding a workshop and public hearing at the May and June LAC meetings. S. Webcam Update Sintner gave an explanation of the progress on the construction of the webcam. c. Status of watershed issues. Mike Kinney introduced himself. Mike is the new administrator for the Prior Lake Spring Lake Watershed District (WD). Kinney went on to describe some of the priorities of the WD. The Prior Lake outlet box, outlet channel, recent Spring Lake bog removal, and permitting activites were explained. D. Update on recent feedback from DNR on proposed 20' shoreline ordinance. Bintner gave a summary of recent correspondence with the DNR on the proposed 20' shoreline ordinance. VI. NEW BUSINESS A. 2008 C.I.P Review The LAC reviewed water quality C.I.P items and recommended monies be included in the 2008 C.I.P to cover the cost of an additional webcam and Sand Point Park. VII. ADJOURNMENT THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Ross Bintner Water Resources Engineer 4 l'':~ic:it':'~'"'' "', ',' .'..', ',,',', " ,,:,\~,~,,-..! -~~ !,;, l"\'i 'w I,.;,[ ,,~,,!i<l }" ~r "~,,,_:_\ , ," i <' . '. '" "" ' - ~:.. ~,,~.~ "''\. ,'~" ~~.:.:l(::::$;;i.'~ :>l: -.l'~ ~~ ~ :3 ~3C~ i,>:::€ 3 :,i,':iC ~ *X ~"'i!lIl O$,,~ "\. v: <)t. '.),~ _~___,' ,~" ~~ M M J:". ~ ~ r'I!' 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