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CITY COUNCIL AGENDA REPORT
MAY 17, 1999
9B
JANE KANSIER, PLANNING COORDINATOR
DON RYE, PLANNING DIRECTOR '4'1:-
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 99~
APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR 21
TOWNHOUSE UNITS AND RESOLUTION 99~ 410
APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR "WILD OAKS"
History: In 1995, RCS Associates filed applications for a Zone
Change, a Schematic and Preliminary Planned Unit Development and
a Preliminary Plat for a townhouse development on this property. The
original proposal included 23 units with private streets. This proposal
was ultimately revised to 20 townhouse units with private streets. On
January 16, 1996, the City Council denied this application based on
the fact the proposed Schematic PUD Plan was inconsistent with the
stated purposes and intent of the PUD section of the Zoning Ordinance
in that the same proposal, with the exception of the private streets,
could be accomplished through the Conditional Use Permit Process.
Prior Lake Oaks, LLC, the current developer, filed an application for a
conditional use permit and a preliminary plat in January, 1999. This
proposal differed from the original proposal in the number of units, 21
instead of 20, and in the use of a public street for access to the units.
On February 8, 1999, the Planning Commission tabled action on this
request to allow the developer the opportunity to revise the plans and
address several issues raised by staff and at the public hearing. The
developer originally intended to submit revised plans in March, 1999;
however, he did not meet the deadline. The developer has signed a
document waiving the 120 day deadline for City action because he did
not file the needed materials within the deadline.
Revised plans for this development were submitted on April 2, 1999.
While the number of units has remained the same at 21, the revised
plan is significantly different from the previous plan in that the access
has been relocated to Greenway Avenue rather than Conroy Street.
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The property is zoned R-1. On the previous zoning map, the property
was zoned both R-1 and C-1 (Conservation), The C-1 district covered
the wetland located along the western portion of the site; however, the
C-1 district was eliminated in the new zoning code. The elimination of
the C-1 district has no effect on this development, since no
construction or grading is occurring in that area, nor does it affect the
density of the development.
This property is also located in the Shoreland District. Since the
property is not riparian, the major issue is impervious surface.
According to the plans, 14.9% of the site is impervious surface, which
is within the maximum 30% impervious surface allowed.
The western portion ofthe site is also located within the 100-year
Flood Plain District. In this case, the lowest floor elevation ofthe
structures must be at least 909.9' MSL, and access to the site must be
at least 907.9' MSL. This development meets those criteria.
The proposed townhouse development consists of21 units on 9.5
buildable acres, for a density of2.2 units per acre, and 13% lot
coverage. The R-1 district permits townhouse developments as a
conditional use, with a maximum density of3.5 units per acre, and a
maximum 18 % lot coverage. The proposed development is consistent
with these requirements. The proposed setbacks are also consistent
with the conventional setbacks for the R-1 district. These are a 25'
front yard setback, a 25' rear yard setback, and 20' separation between
buildings.
The proposed plan consists of2- and 3-unit buildings. There are six 2-
unit buildings, and three 3-unit buildings. The 2-unit buildings are
rambler style structures with walkout foundations and the 3-unit
buildings are 11/2 story structures with lookout foundations. All ofthe
units have attached double garages and pitched roofs. Exterior
materials include brick and stucco on the front and vinyl siding on the
side and rear of the buildings. Each ofthe units will contain
approximately 1,400 square feet of finished floor area on the main
level.
The preliminary plat consists of 21 "envelope" lots for the individual
townhouses and one lot for the common area.
This plan proposes one new public street. Wild Oaks Terrace is a 400'
long cul-de-sac extending from Greenway Avenue west into this site.
The plan also calls for two 20' wide driveways providing access to
Lots 9 and 10, and to Lots 13-19. These driveways meet Fire Code
requirements, but must also provide a turnaround for maintenance
vehicles.
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Sanitary sewer and water service will be extended to this site from the
existing mains located in Conroy Street. Storm sewer and NURP
ponds will also be provided to handle the drainage on the site.
The developer has submitted both a tree inventory and preservation
plan and a landscaping plan. The tree preservation plan identifies the
need to replace 151 caliper inches on the site. The landscaping plan
identifies the required perimeter and lot landscaping. The landscaping
plan must be revised to identify the required replacement trees.
The Planning Commission considered these applications at a public
hearing on April 26, 1999. A copy of the draft minutes ofthe meeting
is attached to this report.
The Issues: There was considerable testimony at the public hearing in
opposition to this development. The primary concerns raised included
the steep slopes on the site, the tree preservation plan, the condition of
Conroy Street, and the development of the site for townhouses rather
than single family homes. Each of these issues is discussed below.
1. This site has several locations in which slopes of 20% or greater
are disturbed, either for the placement of roads and utilities or the
placement of homes. There has also been considerable discussion
about whether or not these slopes constitute a bluff under the
definition in the Shoreland Ordinance. The staff has determined
that this does not meet the definition since it does not drain to Prior
Lake. This interpretation is consistent with interpretations
involving similar situations such as the Glynwater development.
In his letter dated April 19, 1999, Pat Lynch, Area Hydrologist for
the DNR, has noted he will not challenge this interpretation since
the language is open to interpretation.
Section 6-6-6 E ofthe Subdivision Ordinance states "whenever
possible, slopes of twenty percent (20%) or greater should not be
disturbed and should be retained as private or public open space. "
In order to compare the impact of this development versus a single
family development on the steep slopes, the developer submitted a
concept plan identifying 15 single family lots. While staff has not
done a complete analysis of this type of development, it does
appear the lots meet the minimum lot area and width requirements.
Based on this drawing, and assuming a similar placement of
utilities, development of this site with single family lots does not
significantly reduce the impact on the steep slopes.
The Planning Commission reviewed the impact on the steep slopes
on this site. The Planning Commission determined this
development would have no greater impact on the steep slopes
than a single family development.
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2. This site contains several large oak trees. As part of this
development, several large trees will be removed. The tree
preservation plan submitted indicates the need for the replacement
of 151 caliper inches of trees. These trees must be identified on the
landscaping plan. There is also some concern about the remaining
trees on the site. The ordinance does require the developer to
submit a letter of credit guaranteeing the tree replacement. The
City also reviews all grading plans, which will identify the
protection of the remaining trees.
3. As it presently exists, Conroy Street is a gravel road with no curb
and gutter. In the original plan, the developer would have been
required to improve Conroy Street. There was also some
discussion about providing a cul-de-sac at the west end ofthe
street. Since this proposal does not directly access Conroy Street,
the City cannot require the developer to make improvements to
Conroy Street. The Planning Commission recommended the City
Council review the improvement of Conroy Street as part of the
Capital Improvement Program. The adequacy of the culvert
located at Conroy Street on the west boundary of this plat will be
reviewed as part of the drainage plan. If necessary, improvements
will be made to this culvert.
4. Testimony at the public hearing stated a previous developer had
indicated an intention to plat this site with six single family lots.
However, that plat was never filed. The current applicant has
submitted a concept plan identifying 15 single family lots. As
noted above, development of the site for single family dwellings
does not appear to minimize the impact of development on the site.
Townhomes are permitted in the R-I district with a conditional use
permit.
Conclusion: The Planning Commission concluded the proposal met
the requirements for a conditional use permit and preliminary plat.
The Planning Commission recommended approval of the preliminary
plat subject to the following conditions:
1. Revise the plat to show all necessary easements over all public
utilities not located within the dedicated right-of-way. The
easements must be at least 15' wide, or twice the depth of the
utility pipe, whichever is greater.
2. The grade of Wild Oaks Terrace must be revised so that it does not
exceed 2% for the first 100' approaching the intersection with
Greenway Avenue.
3. Provide turnarounds for emergency and maintenance vehicles on
the common driveways, separate from the guest parking areas.
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These driveways must be at least 20' wide, and must be drawn, to
scale, on the plans.
4. Provide the following information on the Engineering Plans at the
final plat stage:
a) The City Project number (98-35) must be shown on all plan
sheets.
b) The slopes on the water quality pond are too steep and must
conform with the Public Works Design Manual which requires
6: 1 slopes below the 10 year HWL and 4: 1 or flatter above the
10 year HWL.
c) Add a note in the profile calling out a minimum depth of 8 feet
for the watermain.
d) The water main which provides service to the four units
adjacent to "Street A" must be 6" DIP, not a 1-1/2" copper
service.
e) The clean out at the end of the sanitary sewer at "Street A "
must be a standard manhole. All sanitary sewer pipe is to be
8" .
f) Submit a soils report and pavement design with the final plat
submittal.
g) Detailed plans for the retaining walls will be required. Walls
higher than 4 feet are to be designed by a registered engineer
and will require a building permit.
h) All silt fence is to be heavy duty.
i) Provide a swale between units 5 and 6.
5. Revised storm sewer calculations must be provided. A complete
review of the storm sewer will not be completed until calculations
are submitted. The storm water routing calculations are to be run
with 0.0 acre-foot storage at starting elevations.
6. Provide a new wetland delineation for the small wetland (pond
100) as well as sequencing for the mitigation.
7. Any grading or utility work within the County right-of-way will
require a permit prior to construction. Evidence of this permit
must be submitted to the City prior to final plat approval.
8. Necessary permits from any other agency, such as the watershed
district, must be obtained and submitted to the City prior to final
plat approval.
The Planning Commission also addressed the criteria for a conditional
use, found in Section 5-6-5C of the City Code, as follows:
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1. The proposed use conforms to the district permitted and
conditional use provisions and all general regulations of this
Ordinance,
Townhouses are permitted as a conditional use in the R-1 district,
with a density up to 3.5 units per acre. The proposed use is
consistent with the conditional use provisions for the R-1 zoning
district and conforms to all general regulations of the Zoning
Ordinance (upon satisfaction of conditions).
2, The proposed use shall not involve any element or cause any
conditions that may be dangerous, injurious, or noxious to any
other property or persons, shall comply with the performance
standards listed below,
The proposed development is designed to provide safe access to
adjacent roads, and is screened from adjacent properties.
3, The proposed use shall be sited, oriented and landscaped to
produce harmonious relationship of buildings and grounds
adjacent to buildings and properties,
The landscaping plan submitted with this proposal meets the
provisions of the ordinance. Additional trees will be required as
part of a tree replacement plan, so more screening will be provided
on this site.
4, The proposed use shall produce a total visual impression and
environment which is consistent with the environment of the
neighborhood,
The size and types of buildings proposed are not dissimilar to the
prevailing architecture in the area. The townhouses are also
oriented away from the existing single family dwellings, and there
is screening provided between the two dwelling types.
5, The proposed use shall organize vehicular access and parking
to minimize traffic congestion within the neighborhood,
The plan provides at least 2 parking spaces for each unit. In
addition, the plan provides for some additional guest parking
spaces. In addition, the access to the site has been moved closer to
CSAH 42, which will minimize the amount of traffic on adjacent
streets.
6, The proposed use shall preserve the objectives of this
Ordinance and shall be consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan,
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The proposed plan is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan
designation and the provisions of the R-l district.
The performance standards are set forth in Section 7.5(D) and
relate to the following factors;
Fire Protection
Noise
Odors
Glare
Water Pollution
Electrical Disturbance
Vibrations
Air Pollution
Water Pollution
The proposed project is not expected to result in any of the
nuisance factors set forth in the performance standards and is thus
consistent with these standards.
Conditional uses in the Shoreland District must also be evaluated
based on the criteria outlined in Section 9.7 A of the Zoning
Ordinance (5-8-7 A of the City Code). These criteria and the staff
analysis of compliance with these criteria are set forth below.
1. The prevention of soil erosion or other possible pollution of
public waters, both during and after construction,
The City requires a grading and erosion control plan prior to any
construction on the site. This plan will require heavy duty silt
fences and other means to prevent erosion into the existing
wetlands. In addition, the proposed stormwater retention pond will
prevent untreated runoff from this development from flowing into
the wetland.
2, The visibility of structures and other facilities as viewed from
public waters is limited,
The structures proposed on this site are oriented away from Prior
Lake. There is also landscaping proposed to provide additional
screenmg.
3, The site is adequate for water supply and on-site sewage
treatment,
The site will be served by public sewer and water systems.
4, The types, uses and numbers of watercraft that the project will
generate are compatible in relation to the suitability of public
waters to safely accommodate these watercraft,
This site does not have direct access to the public water, and no
docks or other water oriented uses are proposed.
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FISCAL IMPACT:
ALTERNATIVES:
RECOMMENDED
MOTION:
The Planning Commission also recommended approval of the
conditional use permit, subject to the following conditions:
1. Revise the landscaping plan to include an irrigation system and the
necessary replacement trees (a minimum of 151 caliper inches).
Staff suggests the additional landscaping be placed, where
possible, along Greenway Avenue and Conroy Street to provide
additional screeningfrom the singe family residences.
2. Revise the plan sheets to include the correct calculations for
impervious surface, landscaping perimeter, and tree replacement
requirements.
3. A letter of credit for the landscaping and tree replacement must be
submitted prior to approval of the final plat documents.
4. The homeowner's association documents must be recorded with
the final plat documents.
5. A new set of plans, showing all of the revisions, must be submitted
prior to final approval of the conditional use permit.
Budget Impact: The construction of new dwellings will provide
additional tax base to the City. The future improvement of Conroy
Street would be done as a public improvement project under Section
429 ofthe Minnesota Statutes. Under current City policy, 100 % of
the cost of the improvement of a gravel road is assessed to the
benefiting property owners.
The City Council has three alternatives:
1. Adopt Resolution 99-XX approving the Preliminary Plat for this
development subject to the listed conditions, and adopt Resolution
#99-XX, approving the Conditional Use Permit for Wild Oaks
subject to the listed conditions, with the finding that the preliminary
plat is consistent with the intent and purpose of the Comprehensive
Plan and the Zoning and Subdivision Ordinances.
2. Deny the Preliminary Plat and Conditional Use Permit on the basis
they are inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the Zoning and
Subdivision Ordinances and/or the Comprehensive Plan. In this
case, the Council should direct the staff to prepare a resolution with
findings of fact for the denial of these requests.
3. Defer consideration of this item for specific reasons.
Staff recommends alternative #1. Since there are two separate items,
two motions are required.
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1. A motion and second to approve Resolution 99-XX, approving the
Preliminary Plat to be known as Wild Oaks, subject to the listed
conditions.
2. A motion and second to approve Resolution 99-XX approving the
Conditional Use Permit, subject to the listed conditions.
REVIEWED BY:
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PRELIMINARY PLAT
RESOLUTION 99~4 ~
RESOLUTION OF THE PRIOR LAKE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING THE
PRELIMINARY PLAT OF "WILD OAKS" SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS
OUTLINED HEREIN,
MOTION BY: SECOND BY:
WHEREAS: the Prior Lake Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on April 26,
1999, to consider an application from Prior Lake Oaks, LLC, for the
preliminary plat of Wild Oaks; and
WHEREAS: notice of the public hearing on said preliminary plat has been duly published
and posted in accordance with the applicable Minnesota Statutes and Prior
Lake Ordinances; and
WHEREAS: all persons interested in this issue were afforded the opportunity to present their
views and objections related to the preliminary plat of Wild Oaks for the record
at the Planning Commission hearing; and
WHEREAS: the Planning Commission and City Council have reviewed the preliminary plat
according to the applicable provisions of the Prior Lake Zoning and
Subdivision Ordinances and found said preliminary plat to be consistent with
the provisions of said ordinances; and
WHEREAS the Prior Lake City Council considered an application for preliminary plat
approval of Wild Oaks on May 17, 1999; and
WHEREAS: the City Council finds the preliminary plat of Wild Oaks to be consistent with
the 2010 Comprehensive Plan.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF PRIOR LAKE, MINNESOTA, that it hereby approves the preliminary plat of Wild
Oaks subject to the following conditions:
1. Revise the plat to show all necessary easements over all public utilities not located
within the dedicated right-ofway. The easements must be at least 15' wide, or twice
the depth of the utility pipe, whichever is greater.
2. The grade of Wild Oaks Terrace must be revised so that it does not exceed 2% for the
first 100' approaching the intersection with Greenway Avenue.
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3. Provide turnarounds for emergency and maintenance vehicles on the common
driveways, separate from the guest parking areas. These driveways must be at least
20' wide, and must be drawn, to scale, on the plans.
4. Provide the following information on the Engineering Plans at the final plat stage:
a) The City Project number (98-35) must be shown on all plan sheets.
b) The slopes on the water quality pond are too steep and must conform with the
Public Works Design Manual which requires 6:1 slopes below the 10 year HWL
and 4: 1 or flatter above the 10 year HWL.
c) Add a note in the profile calling out a minimum depth of 8 feet for the watermain.
d) The water main which provides service to the four units adjacent to "Street A "
must be 6" DIP, not a 1-1/2" copper service.
e) The clean out at the end of the sanitary sewer at "Street A" must be a standard
manhole. All sanitary sewer pipe is to be 8" .
f) Submit a soils report and pavement design with the final plat submittal.
g) Detailed plans for the retaining walls will be required. Walls higher than 4 feet
are to be designed by a registered engineer and will require a building permit.
h) All silt fence is to be heavy duty.
i) Provide a swale between units 5 and 6.
5. Revised storm sewer calculations must be provided. A complete review of the storm
sewer will not be completed until calculations are submitted. The storm water
routing calculations are to be run with 0.0 acre-foot storage at starting elevations.
6. Provide a new wetland delineation for the small wetland (pond 100) as well as
sequencing for the mitigation.
7. Any grading or utility work within the County right-of-way will require a permit prior
to construction. Evidence of this permit must be submitted to the City prior to final
plat approval.
8. Necessary permits from any other agency, such as the watershed district, must be
obtained and submitted to the City prior to final plat approval.
Passed and adopted this 17th day of May, 1999.
YES NO
Mader Mader
Kedrowski Kedrowski
Petersen Petersen
Schenck Schenck
Wuellner Wuellner
{Seal} City Manager
City of Prior Lake
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CONDITIONAL US~?IIT,\ 1
RESOLUTION 99-~ '1 t
APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO DEVELOP A 21 UNIT
TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS "WILD OAKS"
MOTION BY: SECOND BY:
WHEREAS, the Prior Lake Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on April 26,
1999, to consider an application from Prior Lake Oaks, LLC, for a
Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for a 21 unit townhouse development to be
known as Wild Oaks, and the City Council heard the case on May 18=7,
1999; and
WHEREAS, notice of the public hearing on said CUP has been duly published III
accordance with the applicable Prior Lake Ordinances; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission proceeded to hear all persons interested in this
issue and persons interested were afforded the opportunity to present their
views and objections related to the CUP of Wild Oaks; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission and City Council find the CUP for Wild Oaks in
harmony with both existing and proposed development in the area
surrounding the project; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission and City Council find the proposed CUP is
compatible with the stated purposes and intent of the Zoning Ordinance as
they relate to conditionally permitted uses, and further, that the proposed
CUP meets the criteria for approval of CUP as contained in Section 7-5 C 1-6
of the Zoning Ordinance and Section 5-6-5 (C) of the City Code.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF PRIOR LAKE:
that it hereby adopts the following findings:
FINDINGS
1. The proposed use conforms to the district permitted and conditional use provisions and
all general regulations of this Ordinance.
Townhouses are permitted as a conditional use in the R-l district, with a density up to 3.5
units per acre. The proposed use is consistent with the conditional use provisions for the R-l
zoning district and conforms to all general regulations of the Zoning Ordinance (upon
satisfaction of conditions).
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2, The proposed use shall not involve any element or cause any conditions that may be
dangerous, injurious, or noxious to any other property or persons, shall comply with
the performance standards listed below,
The proposed development is designed to provide safe access to adjacent roads, and is
screened from adjacent properties.
3, The proposed use shall be sited, oriented and landscaped to produce harmonious
relationship of buildings and grounds adjacent to buildings and properties,
The landscaping plan submitted with this proposal meets the provisions of the ordinance.
Additional trees will be required as part of a tree replacement plan, so more screening will be
provided on this site.
4, The proposed use shall produce a total visual impression and environment which is
consistent with the environment of the neighborhood,
The size and types of buildings proposed are not dissimilar to the prevailing architecture in
the area. The townhouses are also oriented away from the existing single family dwellings,
and there is screening provided between the two dwelling types.
5, The proposed use shall organize vehicular access and parking to minimize traffic
congestion within the neighborhood,
The plan provides at least 2 parking spaces for each unit. In addition, the plan provides for
some additional guest parking spaces. In addition, the access to the site has been moved
closer to CSAH 42, which will minimize the amount of traffic on adjacent streets.
6, The proposed use shall preserve the objectives of this Ordinance and shall be consistent
with the Comprehensive Plan,
The proposed plan is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan designation and the provisions
of the R-l district.
The performance standards are set forth in Section 7.5(D) and relate to the following factors;
. Fire protection . Electri~l disturbance
. Noise . Vibrations
. Odors . Air pollution
. Glare . Erosion
. Water pollution.
The proposed project is not expected to result in any of the nuisance factors set forth in the
performance standards and is thus consistent with these standards.
Conditional uses in the Shoreland District must also be evaluated based on the criteria outlined in
Section 9.7 A of the Zoning Ordinance (5-8-7 A of the City Code). These criteria and the staff
analysis of compliance with these criteria are set forth below.
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1. The prevention of soil erosion or other possible pollution of public waters, both during
and after construction.
The City requires a grading and erosion control plan prior to any construction on the site.
This plan will require heavy duty silt fences and other means to prevent erosion into the
existing wetlands. In addition, the proposed stormwater retention pond will prevent
untreated runoff from this development from flowing into the wetland.
2, The visibility of structures and other facilities as viewed from public waters is limited,
The structures proposed on this site are oriented away from Prior Lake. There is also
landscaping proposed to provide additional screening.
3, The site is adequate for water supply and on-site sewage treatment,
The site will be served by public sewer and water systems.
4. The types, uses and numbers of watercraft that the project will generate are compatible
iu relation to the suitability of public waters to safely accommodate these watercraft,
This site does not have direct access to the public water, and no docks or other water
oriented uses are proposed.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
approves the CUP for Wild Oaks on the property legally described as follows:
LEGAL DESCRIPTION:
That part of Government Lot 2, Section 30, Township 115, Range 21, Scott County, Minnesota,
described as follows:
Commencing at the northeast corner of said Government Lot 2; thence on an assumed bearing of
West, along the north line of said Government Lot 2, a distance of 148.01 feet to the actual point
of beginning of the land to be described; thence South 0 degrees 42 minutes 14 seconds East a
distance of 158.31 feet; thence southwesterly a distance of 83.99 feet along a tangential curve,
concave to the west, having a central angle of 31 degrees 03 minutes 41 seconds and a radius of
154.92 feet; thence South 30 degrees 21 minutes 27 seconds West, tangent to the last described
curve, a distance of 202.90 feet; thence southwesterly a distance of 103 Al feet along a tangential
curve, concave to the northwest, having a central angle of 31 degrees 11 minutes 15 seconds and
a radius of 189.99 feet to a judicial landmark set pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561; thence
South 28 degrees 27 minutes 18 seconds East a distance of 30.00 feet to a judicial landmark set
pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561 being the northerly line of a 20.00 foot driveway as
shown on the plat of "CONROY'S BAY", according to the recorded plat thereof, on file or of
record in the office of the County Recorder, Scott County, Minnesota; thence South 61 degrees
32 minutes 42 seconds West, along said northerly line, a distance of 139.72 feet to a judicial
landmark set pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561; thence South 41 degrees 17 minutes 27
seconds West, along said northerly line a distance of 134.80 feet to a judicial landmark set
pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561; thence South 87 degrees 49 minutes 56 seconds West,
along said northerly line a distance of 276.54 feet to a judicial landmark set pursuant to Torrens
Case No. 90-13561; thence North 87 degrees 11 minutes 48 seconds West, along said northerly
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line, a distance of 60.24 feet to a judicial landmark set pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561;
thence North 69 degrees 48 minutes 55 seconds West, along said northerly line, a distance of
283.56 feet to a judicial landmark set pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561 being the easterly
line of the 30.00 foot road as shown on said plat of "CONROY'S BAY"; thence North 0 degrees
38 minutes 40 seconds West along said easterly line, a distance of 130.57 feet to a judicial
landmark set pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561; thence North 7 degrees 46 minutes 21
seconds West, along said easterly line, a distance of 386.49 feet to a judicial landmark set
pursuant to Torrens Case No. 90-13561; thence continuing North 75.70 feet to the north line of
Government Lot 2; thence on a bearing of East, along said north line, a distance of 1059.36 feet
to the point of beginning.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, approval of the CUP is subject to the following conditions:
1. Revise the landscaping plan to include an irrigation system and the necessary replacement
trees (a minimum of 151 caliper inches). Staff suggests the additional landscaping be
placed, where possible, along Greenway Avenue and Conroy Street to provide additional
screening from the singe family residences.
2. Revise the plan sheets to include the correct calculations for impervious surface,
landscaping perimeter, and tree replacement requirements.
3. A letter of credit for the landscaping and tree replacement must be submitted prior to
approval of the final plat documents.
4. The homeowner's association documents must be recorded with the final plat documents.
5. A new set of plans, showing all of the revisions, must be submitted prior to final approval of
the conditional use permit.
CONCLUSION
Based upon the Findings set forth above, the City Council hereby grants a Conditional Use
Permit for Glynwater. The contents of Planning Case File #99-003 and #99-004 are hereby
entered into and made a part ofthe public record and the record of the decision for this case.
Passed and adopted this 17th day of May, 1999.
YES
NO
Mader
Kedrowski
Petersen
Schenck
Wuellner
Mader
Kedrowski
Petersen
Schenck
Wuellner
{Seal}
City Manager,
City of Prior Lake
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES 4/26/99
MOTION BY VONHOF, SECOND KUYKENDALL, TO CONTINUE THE MEETING
TO MAY 10, 1999, FOR SPECIFIC RESPONSE FROM THE DNR ON DOCKAGE
AND SHORELAND MODIFICATIONS ON THE TIMBER WALL.
Vote taken signified ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
B. CASE FILES #99-003 AND #99-004 (CONTINUED) PRIOR LAKE OAKS, ~~S:}~
REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A PRELIMINARY PLA.:lf,olfTH.E
PROJECT TO BE KNOWN AS WILD OAKS LOCATED SOUTH OF COlJ,NWY ROAD 42, WEST
OF GREENWAY AVENUE AND NORTH AND EAST OF CONROY STREETF::::.
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Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier presented the Planning R~pprt:~~ted Aptn:~R~:.1999
on file in the office of the City Planner. This is a continua!19pHlfttpe: public heaffrg::lrom
the February 8, 1999, Planning Commission meeting. ~~#rtrecommended appro\;:~~::9f):
the Preliminary Plat and Conditional Use Permit subj~gfto the cguditions listed inJhf
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Criego asked for clarification on the driveways and tree canp~hreplacement. Kansier
responded.
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Robert Speed, 11792 Acron A Y~nHe, Inver G~9Y#:Heights.,]~n:& of the developers, stated
they met the neighbors con9.wnM~q:24 condiijpns. They:spent a lot of time and effort to
comply to neighbors' .~e.~4s:::..:iiii/:ij:?::i:
Scott Roth, 6394 CQlitqy):~~reet,.~~its4h.l:~:f.ggS~Pis were not addressed. First, some of
the trees to be excavated:af~)::9Y&F1'o6i)Mmi.))Q~a:.. The excavation will disturb all the
remaining trees and they W-fll:]!1,,91. survive. Another tree disturbance concern is the
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the Yf~nand will be 10sE)::::lPth disggtees with the landscaping plan the developer is
P.t9P9~~pg and went on tq:gpote the vegetation selection in the Shoreland Management
OrdinIi#'B~~Another congi#ll is for the stress on the existing wetlands. Savage already has
drainage:::'1q,gJpe area.H#::is not sure if the setbacks are from the existing Conroy Street
or the plattd.i):!:'Wfet a.I~cbrrect stating some residents will have cars sticking out into the
street if the stie~t:::m::Jhoved as platted. Roth would like reassurance the existing street
will remain as i~f,:::::(::..
Dave Frees, 6346 Conroy Street, commended staff with the report, however he felt the
area is in the bluff zone. Frees read a partial paragraph of a letter dated Apri119, 1999 to
Jane Kansier from Pat Lynch, Hydrologist with the DNR. His second concern is the small
wetland. Frees' interpretation of the Zoning Ordinance wetland definition would be
violated as proposed.
Ted Schweich, 6436 Conroy Street, brought up the PUD proposal several years ago and
why it was denied. He stated he has never seen a development come in as a conditional
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use permit and felt this project should go in as a single family development. Re would
like to see the density reduced. Schweich also wanted to address the issue of parkland.
Questioned where his children would go to play. Other issues were with the roadway not
being built, no buffer, slopes, clear cutting trees and runoff.
John Gorra, Shady Beach Trail, said the road as platted is not as actually traveled. Gorra
stated the second issue was selfish - he would like to see the road raised. l]~~H!t?as to be
road improvement with this development. The previous proposal was gQ.ipjg'ltraead-end.
Gorra would like the project to go with the original recommendation "m!limt in a cu1-de-
sac at the end of the road. He did not want to see the connectin9'::~I~etM~::~:~:,ffiC.
Dan Reiling, 6298 Conroy Street, said he has seen a lot of e~qm9:!i:'!iith the di~'~ng water
runoff. There is more sedimentation flow and increase o(J~irVegetation into Ffi#i::k:M;~.
He agreed with Mr. Gorra's concerns. .,. ":,:' "':::,::::::::::::r::"
John Turner, 14137 Shady Beach Trail, main conc6m:'i$:::m~:ruI1g";/:::+p'is development
will add more runoff. The road should be upgraded. ,,,;:::,::::::~,::{:?,,:,, ....
Marianne Frees, 6346 Conroy Street, thaffl5.j~lJhe developer for:'f:!!H8:Wg the size of the
development. She also felt the tree surve:Wwa$:::~Bt:qrr~ct. Frees sf~ti(fthey have done a
lot of landscaping and is concerned with pr1~:~errig",~~_~~~t~,:,j:~tFflhe road and runoff.
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Ca1ena Townsend, 6300 Conrqy@~g~et, said t~~ttrare many:residents who could not make
the meeting and will be wB~h1g::1eql~. She wold like the Commissioners to revisit the
rezoning ofthe propertyi::She has lr!#,~ in Prior E,~~,,:f.or 3 years and has seen many
changes. If the CitY,JffiMIDot contro.J::$'avage, theY,,:C,Hy) will have to deal with the runoff
into Prior Lake. She::d81:m,pt a.gti~tw:Hh:::m@~~~pg:"with the geography. As a
neighborhood they are coH;m~((tmiir'deve18pment is not what the neighbors want.
Townsend to..!gJ8t,:::gommissi~ii:f~ they had the legal means to turn this proposal down
and as,::,:~:~r.aiber6h~~:::'I~:::~ill iiO~:i:l~jr:}lP'
Lork:g,~iling, 6298 Co~M::~~treet;::::g;id they were told by the realtor the area would be
siiigt~::!,~ily homes and :,ipce the townhomes are not consistent with the neighborhood,
her prdP~1:.:~,:lue Will/~j.::pown.
Bill Townsdlqi.:::9PO.Q:Ji6nroy Street, was concerned the Commissioners had a lot of
things going ori':'~::#ie meeting. But there are many concerns yet to be raised. Townsend
stated he felt it W~s his right and duty to address 6 pages of concerns. (A copy of the
document is on file in the office of the City Planner.)
Comments from the Commissioners:
Cramer:
. Cannot support this development because of units 15 to 21 impact steep slopes and
wetlands.
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. Removal of units 15-21 would provide area to mitigate runoff and act as a buffer area
to the existing homes in the new area.
. Basically, this area is ecologically sensitive to be completely cut up.
. Questioned staff if the Conroy Street upgrade was in the City Capital Improvement
Plan. McDermott responded if the residents of Conroy Street would like the road
upgraded they would have to go through the Minnesota Statute 429 process and
requesting City Council to add the improvements to the Capital ImproY.~mJPlan.
. Cannot support the development. A little less would a great improy:@PieiiC",H
Criego: .:H HH'" H
. Feels there are basically 5 items. ,'H::: :.::i.::::::..
. The drainage issue revolves around the impervious sur~~g,,;'::m*~~ has beeri::'~Yi~:~ed~
. Is there a serious problem with Conroy Street todaY?':fpeitain1y tomorrow. HH:. HH
. Is it a bluff? Has the DNR indicated it? .':::::' HHH HH
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. Access to the lake. Would like to hear from th~ia~~!8per.::.::::.:.:::::::::t::::::
. McDermott said it appears some of the trees were surrgHng~ab)/::silt fence in order to
protect them. McDermott also noted the drainage meeiir'Mht.he criteria. They will
revise the calculations. If the on-site BSmqing is not adequat~:~ht d.ryeloper will have
to address it. The wetland issue has'l~ftm:::WtqI~ssed.':"'::.:::.:':'::::::/'"
. Kansier read the ordinance regarding th~..COhSetY!1l9H:oistrictr'
. The significant trees are not being remoV~9. ....:::.::::.:.
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. Kansier read the letter fromlhx..:PNR.:;:;}:::=:.. <::.
. Joel Cooper, the engin@~:rr8HlU~es Hill :&i.:.. Associates, addressed the tree loss
explaining the engiqi6Hng tec1i4,ques dealiiii%~y~tJJ. the tree removal. The intent is to
keep the runoff i.R~9.:tre pond 9R.:site. Coope~::~Ma the runoff will not cause any
flooding. The ra.te:W~:::mnof,f::~~~lyipS.~l}f.:~'f~::will remain the same as the pre-
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. Questio11,~q.*,!e.fLon the Cqi;~lY Street position. McDermott presented a map of the
trav:~rg:ftHidw~~iYRi.ch appe~t!9J9 be in the development. McDermott does not see
as,.:jfl'r''issue. "'::"".:::::::.:.;. .'::::::::'
.tIB~ Haselton, the (Hyh~r of the' development, said they have no property ownership
H ':6fi:the lake.
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. Criego dld::!P}X1Jt~nent job in addressing the issues.
. Has attended..::#=Vfry meeting on this development. Appreciates the work the
neighborhood has done.
. This is the most environmentally sensitive piece of property on Prior Lake. It is very
challenging. There will be a development on this site.
. The developers did a very good job addressing the issues.
. Has concern for the steep slopes and impact on the east side of site.
Kuykendall:
. It is not easy to address all the issues.
. The road issue is put to bed. The elevation on the road is a concern.
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. Complemented the developer for putting forth a good plan.
. Traffic flow, street improvement, cul-de-sac, parks, issues are still conflicting. They
are all valid issues and need to be addressed in a special assessment for the area.
. The residents could buy the property and take care of it as a park.
. The developer was very forthright working with staff on many details. Especially
working with the Capital Improvement Program and paying for the road. There has
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:ta:::: come a long way but there are still some issues WhiCh:;,d'ThSSed.
. Commend developer for addressing the issues from the last rri~iting. ..........
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. A townhouse development can actually give th~ielitJ:p.ore ggnttP1. If it was simply
single family homes the City would not have the resti1~tiQ~:Y:'tnHe property owners
want .to .see the lake and cut down the trees, they can da==lt::I~=~~out the neighbor's
permISSIon. . .. """}}}\::" ,,':::':':
. Would like to see numbers on the wat,~.:~~::~!:::~~~i~~ers. "::=\:1=:::''':::::=:=;:::::'
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. The conditions outlined by:::~t~ff.does stat'~:::!J.jg=::(mgineei.~:]i)ive to review and make
sure the project meets..!n#iMMiijiPs of the 'q~!y. '.'
. The project should H9f'be held tID:::by that patt~F~!f:lr criteria.
. In favor of the d.*%I~~p'~ent.~"~::~~:~ou~:::::pg6ciation is better for the area and the
owners cannot do w~~~:::!~e~=::imnt/::/::::(((:/://:::/::'
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Kuyk~m~:ah pointe(Cdt<<:::fu~ CO~~l&ners have not had time to read the six pages
~~::n~tion o:onroy Street and the Capital Improvement Plan.
Kansier clari=n!9:J:p.~:=:yl!pital Improvement Plan. McDermott explained the City's policy
of gravel roads.::~;~p~rassessed to the property.
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Stamson said the runoff issue is existing, not created by the potential development.
Kuykendall suggested tabling or taking another 30 minutes to discuss.
MOTION BY KUYKENDALL, TO TABLE THE MATTER TO THE NEXT
MEETING. NO SECOND. MOTION FAILED.
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MOTION BY CRIEGO, SECOND BY VONHOF, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WITH THE CONDITIONS STATED IN THE STAFF
REPORT AS FOLLOWS:
1. Revise the plat to show all necessary easements over all public utilities not located
within the dedicated right-of-way, The easements must be at least 15' wide, or
twice the depth of the utility pipe, whichever is greater, ........
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2, The grade of Wild Oaks Terrace must be revised so that it does.'1,i:exceed 2% for
the first 100' approaching the intersection with Greenway Av~~#~i:.:l:l::::::\:::-.
3, Provide turnarounds for emergency vehicles on the comi#,i' drivmf9.lf., separate
from the guest parking areas, These driveways must bf!:l!Lle.q~t 20' wllJ~i::!Pd must
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4, Provide the following information on the Engi~:~~f:ifig Pl~i::::~t the final pla(f.!hge:
a) The City Project number (98-35) must be ~tlb~~..:~kar.~'~#.~:::t:heets,
b) The slopes on the water quality pond are too sie'Jh!i!#d must conform with the
Public Works Design Manual whi.~h requires 6:1 slillll.:~f?elow the 10 year HWL
and 4:1 or flatter above the 10 Y1~:I~~;: HH::
c) Add a note in the profile calliifg.oiii::(ii.::tmmimum 4!J;ih of 8 feet for the
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d) The water main whic...!t:1!ff!yides serv14=gYo the fou.r::imits adjacent to "Street A"
must be 6" DIP,:~~#?i[121Z.~i.fopper s'~ce,
e) The clean ou~:qiNhe end o./Jllte sanitary:~~rfer at "Street A" must be a standard
f) ;::~;:: s::;~A:~1Jj.C::~th the final plat submiffal.
g) De~9il~J!tl!!9.1J~.for thiP~i9.ining walls will be required, Walls higher than 4 feet
~f:;!~:!:,~~:::::g~~eer and will require a building perm<<.
5, Revij~l.t!f!rm sewe.,rJf"izlculations must be provided, A complete review of the storm
sewer wt((::t!!t!t ~ff.j(iompleted until calculations are submitted, The storm water
routing cdt#t~rPiJns are to be run with 0,0 acre-foot storage at starting elevations,
6, Provide a ,;:e"W wetland delineation for the small wetland (pond 1 00) as well as
sequencing for the mitigation,
7, Any grading or utility work within the County right-of-way will require a permit
prior to construction, Evidence of this permit must be submitted to the City prior to
final plat approval,
8, Necessary permits from any other agency, such as the watershed district, must be
obtained and submitted to the City prior to final plat approval,
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Vote taken signified ayes by V onhof, Stamson and Criego, nays by Kuykendall and
Cramer. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY CRIEGO, SECOND BY VONHOF, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL
OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED
IN THE STAFF REPORT AS FOLLOWS:
1. Revise the landscaping plan to include an irrigation system a1J..4'Ytht:::}ifecessary
replacement trees (a minimum of 151 caliper inches), StaffsuK.,i:!~ the additional
landscaping be placed, where possible, along Greenway A~'!.!!':tiiiji}(;.onroy Street
to provide additional screening from the singe family res.~~t!'lts, ..::::~t:i~i:l::ll:~~::::t~::::..
2, Revise the plan sheets to include the correct calcula:Jf9/"$.,r'g}~: impervio:ii~:i::ffftfa~e,
landscaping perimeter, and tree replacement requ~,!~ijients.::.. " "::::::::::i::lilli:i:::::r:J::'
3, A letter of credit for the landscaping and tree ':ltilfPcemenlfmllst be submitteil:prior
to approval of the final plat documents, .::::r::::::::::::~:~:::::":li'..~::::~:~~~::::.. ..:{:::,::.:.::"":. .
4, The homeowner's association documents must be:::(i.~c.6rded with the final plat
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5, A new set of plans, showing all ol~i1~:i'tfYifi(!/!s, must b~::::ilb.jfNtted prior to final
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Vote taken signified ayes by Y;g~g[, Stamso~::~~r Criego;'.:p!ys by Kuykendall and
Cramer. MOTION CAR~j~J):i:::::::::~~:::::::::::::::::\ .:t~\.
A recess was cal1ed::0~:::~!i~~~:.::~.m..::::{~!:::;::~:::~:::::::;~,V'ened at 9:10 p.m.
Commissioner V onhof wq:~~~~tisea::fit.ifn4h~Jfteeting.
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MOTION::J~;.rRlIlB9Q, s~:d8'll::~X:::KUYKENDALL, TO RECOMMEND THE
CITY .g~ONCIL I{E/~m}V CO~@Y"STREET AND INCLUDE IT IN THE CAPITAL
~A;;:~::):: :~TION CARRffiD.
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CAS:E::IQ.,~S #?gfbi3 AND #99-014 D,R, HORTON IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO
THE CI'tY:!BE::piuoR LAKE YEAR 2010 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A ZONE CHANGE
REQUEST::jOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS DEERFIELD LOCATED SOUTH AND WEST OF
COUNTy::t{OAD 21, SOUTH OF FISH POINT ROAD AND WILDERNESS TRAIL AND EAST
OF THE PONDS ATHLETIC FACILITY,
Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier presented the Planning Report dated April 26, 1999
on file in the office of the City Planner.
D. R. Horton and Deerfield Development have filed an application for a Comprehensive
Plan Amendment and a Zone Change for the property located south and west of CSAH
21, south ofFish Point Road and Wilderness Pond Trail and east of the Ponds Athletic
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William H. Townsend
6300 Conroy Street, NE, Prior Lake, MN 55372
(0) 612-857-2337 . (H) 612-496-3024
email: whtownsenduv.vahoO.com
(FAX) 612-921-9720
WILD OAKS
DEVELOPMrnNTPROPOSAL
DISCUSSION POINTS
April 26, 1999
As Adjacent lot owners, we are pleased to see that the developers of the proposed Wild
Oaks townhouses have acted to take many of our concerns into consideration in their
revised plat and CUP application. Many of the issues regarding compliance with code
that we submitted at the February 8th meeting of the Planning Commission appear to
have been addressed. However, the new application raises some new questions and
leaves unanswered some that were raised previously. We wish to bring these to the
attention of the Planning Commission so that we may get them clarified through joint
discussion with the developer, City Planning staff, and the Commission before it is too
late.
1. TREES
. Given that the necessary steps and elements of the tree inventory required in the
tree ordinance application section have been completed, how did City Planning
staff verify and check the material filed?
. Many of the trees marked on the plan to be "saved," appear to be so directly in
harm's way that there can be no question but that they will die as a result of the
proposed plan:
. Proposed retaining walls and structure footpads abut a number of them:
. A number appear to have the area within their drip line subjected to earth
removal and earth hauling.
Does this not violate both the letter and the intent of the Tree Ordinance?
. The express criteria of the CUP require retaining 50% of the canopy of the trees
on the property. City Planning staff makes two statements about this:
. The two requirements (the tree ordinance and the CUP criteria) are not
additive but either one or the other applies; and
. Staff has chosen the more structured tree ordinance (without even
mentioning the 50% canopy to remain requirement in its report).
We ask the Commission to clarify the basis for staff's particular interpretation of
these two key provisions. We think it is very reasonable that both provisions
should apply since:
(a) the newer tree ordinance is silent regarding CUP situations,
(b) the CUP situation is actually more specific than the general, "any and all types
of applications", tree ordinance and
(c) the CUP section of the ordinance contains several other quite specific criteria
that are not ignored simply because they are contrary to more generally applicable
ordinance provisions.
. Into which section of the tree ordinance does this property fall- initial site
development or previously platted vacant lot development? In our last Discussion
Document, we asserted that this property had been previously platted. City Staff
informed us that they checked and found no plat had ever been approved
We have located what we believe are two authentic copies of a county approved
plat for this parcel of land. We believe it is extremely important and request that
this question be clarified before any action is taken on this application.
We request clarification because whether the application for development is in
connection with a parcel for which the plat in question is an "initial application"
or for a parcel that has "been previously platted" affects the nature of the criteria
to be applied under the City's new Tree Ordinance.
How can the application proceed when it is absolutely unclear what criteria
apply? This is especially true in this situation in that the treatment of the existing
trees has been a central issue concerning the development of this particular parcel
for some time.
Finally, if this turns out to be a "previously platted" situation, it is unclear just
what the criteria are for the proposed development. We ask the Planning
Commission to obtain clarification of this aspect of the ordinance before
proceeding. We believe it is especially important in connection with this
particular parcel as it is now:
(a) one of the last remaining primary sites in the City and
(b) one which strongly affects, highlights and describes the City's sense of
character to the high volume of travelers along Highway 42.
2. Lakeshore Management
. Another CUP standard requires there to be a "harmonious relationship of
buildings and grounds to adjacent buildings and properties." We do not believe
the proposed development plan complies with this requirement for two reasons:
. ALL adjacent buildings and grounds are detached single-family homes.
. When approving the adjacent Harbor townhome development, the City
specifically required the developer to change the units along the west side
from townhouses to single family to make that development "harmonious"
with the rest of the neighborhood.
Now the assignees of that same developer are attempting to leapfrog the very
barrier the City imposed by building this Wild Oaks townhouse development right
across the street from the protective row of single family units of the Harbor
development. As your City's co-citizens, -residents and -landowners in the
immediate neighborhood, we earnestly request you, the Planning Commission,
and the City to keep this Compact with us. Put yourselves in our position and ask
yourself how you would feel, how you would act in a similar situation.
. The CUP criteria also require that "the total visual impression and environment
[be] consistent with the environment of the neighborhood." The neighborhood is
heavily treed with mature trees. A close examination of the proposed
development plan (especially along its Conroy Street sub-neighborhood edges)
clearly shows that the mature "treed" nature of the parcel will be eradicated. We
do not believe, therefore, that the plan satisfies this CUP criteria.
Further, the DNR area hydrologist review states: "Screening of the development from
Prior Lake should be done. Minimization of tree removal on the lake side of the
development (the same as the Conroy Street sub-neighborhood edges) will help to
accomplish this." We respectfully assert that the proposal does not satisfy this
Shoreline Management Ordinance requirement.
3. Conroy Street
While major changes to this street are not part of the revised proposal, we believe the
street does raise substantial issues:
. The road and the properties along its southern side are no more protected from the
heightened risk of more and larger "bounces" from storm run off than in earlier
proposals, a concern previously submitted by the City Engineer during the 1995
proposal review. This is especially true since (a) now no mitigation is involved
and (b) there will be substantially less pervious surface when the topography is
flattened as shown on the proposed plan. What is now increased surface run off
and greater sediment and chemical flow directly to the lake will only get worse.
. Additionally, on closer examination of the plats and plans involved, there appears
to be a significant difference between Conroy Street (a) as traveled, (b) as
'previously platted and (c) as shown on the proposed plat. Essentially, among the
three, two different routings are shown at the road's furthest south alignment.
. Since the roadway defines a significant portion of the property line, this
ambiguity affects the true size of the parcel and, thus, many of the calculations
detennining compliance with City code and ordinances.
Significant collateral issues also arise for the lot owners on the south side of the
road in this location, since for many years the road as traveled lies several feet
north of where the two plats (the previous plat and the developer's proposed plat)
show it to be. Namely, can the roadway now be relocated per the plats even
though landowners and the City have lived so long with the roadway as is?
Forcing relocation of the roadway may cause the affected landowners substantial
disruption and hardship and, further, may cause their lots to be out of compliance
with City code and ordinances. We believe it is absolutely essential that this
matter be studied and clarified before proceeding further with this development
proposal.
. Also, discussion of this dilemma among the "south-side" landowners coupled
with
(1) ever-present fears about roadway and property flooding due to new storm run
off "bounce" patterns that will occur and
(2) knowledge that the City, for a variety of reasons would like to change the
characteristics of Conroy Street,
have led us to request the following of the you, the Planning Commission. We
urge and request that a more thorough, comprehensive and appropriate process be
undertaken at this time to attempt to identify a solution that will optimize in the
aggregate the needs of all the parties and interests involved. We believe this
should be done before any plan is fmalized and approved for the Wild Oaks parcel
since it is now the sole parcel along the entire northside of Conroy Street.
4. Bluffs and Watershed
With all due respect to the agencies involved, we believe a serious and tragic mistake is
involved in he proposal and the reviewing authorities recommended action. We believe
the City staff and the DNR are clearly ignoring the indisputable facts involved and
misinterpreting the clear letter and intent of the Shoreline Management and the City's
adoption thereof in it's ordinances. To simplify:
. All the bluffs on the East, South and Southwest boundaries/sides of the parcel
"face the lake" and are clearly visible from the lake.
. Whether directly or indirectly, all surface run off from these bluffs and some of
the surfaces above them will drain into the lake carrying chemicals that are
suspended in the water because that do not settle out through sedimentation.
. The lake at this particular point in terms of both time and location is already
suffering severely from the over-burdening of it's two major filtering methods
(sedimentation and dilution) being grossly overtaxed.
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. The DNR, in the fifth paragraph of it's April 19, 1999 letter to Ms. Kansier,
clearly acknowledges its concurrence with Mr. Frees definition ofblu:ffs as
pertains to storm drainage. Further, he states it is the DNR's opinion "that the
intent of the rule regarding bluffs was to include those areas meeting height and
slope requirements of bluff... if the drainage was to the shoreline basin,
regardless of whether the drainage was direct or indirect. (Emphasis added). "
Up to this point in the letter, the DNR understands and concurs with Mr. Frees's
interpretation and concerns. Then the DNR goes on to assert that the bluffs do not
"face the Lake" and then contradicts it's own interpretative logic by stating; "and
drainage is not direct to the lake, rather it is indirect via other wetlands not
regulated by DNR." While the rest of the letter is difficult to follow, the balance
of the salient points are consistent with Mr. Frees's as stated in his March 19th
letter to Ms. Kansier.
. The DNR's confounding April 19th letter might be considered comical, but for the
fact that it is dealing with matters of slope stability and invaluable and
irreplaceable aesthetic qualities right in the midst of our City. The matter, though,
becomes worse yet. In a meeting I had with Ms Kansier on Friday, three days ago,
in which she indicated that this letter represented the DNR' s approval of the
proposed plan.
We disagree; and, if anything we believe it clearly represents the uncertainty
surrounding the bluffs and watershed of Prior Lake. Thus, it seems the matter
now comes down to a judgement call on the part of the Planning Commission.
We do not believe the Planning Commission should rely on the DNR's "non-
position" or confusing position, nor the flawed view of City staff "action"/input
on this matter.
You use Prior Lake. You know the intent of the Shoreline Management
Ordinance. You will have to decide
(a) whether the land in question that is clearly visible from the lake should be
leveled and
(b) whether rather clear language designed to protect the lake from adverse
pollution and sedimentation should be ignored
just so some incremental number of townhouse units may be added to a project to
bolster the developers' profits.
As your fellow residents and neighbors in Prior Lake, we most respectfully
request that you not approve this skewed application of these important City code
and ordinance provisions.
5. Lakeshore Access
In our February 8th Discussion Document, we stated the following:
"The developer may assert that it is planning no rights to lake access. However, this
location on the lake has a particularly thorny history of lake access disagreement. AS
adjacent landowners, we do not want to experience further disquietude over such
issues. Yet, if we must deal with it, please allow us to deal with it straight up now, at
this point. We respectfully request (as the previous developer agreed to do in 1995)
that THE DEVELOPER AGREE AND STATE IN ITS DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT AND AGREEMENTS WITH FUTURE FEE TITLE HOLDERS
TIIAT NONE OF THE LAKESHOREE PROPERTY, EASEMENTS OR LOTS IN
CONROY'S BAY ADDITION EVER BECOME PART OF OR IN ANY WAY BE
USED BY OR ON BEHALF OF THE WILD OAKS DEVELOPMENT OR THE
PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS THEREOF."
We ask the Planning Commission to help us get this issue up on the table and resolved
now.
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I and the rest of the landowners adjacent to the proposed development will be pleased to
discuss these matters and answer any questions we can. Thank you for your time and
consideration concerning this important matter.
William H. Townsend
For the landowners adjacent to the proposed Wild Oaks Development
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-bpiglirigs wilIJ:>~a.r~rn.blerstyl~:,mth~alk oufrotlnda.tions~ Th.~yWiiil1a~e'
,approXimatelyT400i: finished s'qua.ie feet on thema.ip. level wit~similar' squarei"~'i:
available for finish in the lower level. Roof pitch is to be 8/12 and 6/1Z'With exf~~J~
materials to be brick, stucco and vinyl. The three unit buildings will be a 1 ~ sto!'Ystyle
with lookout foundations. They will have approximately 1400i: square feet finisfi.~d6n
two levels with an additional 950i: available for finish in the lower level. Roofpitchis
8/12 with exterior materials to bebrick and vinyl. These exteri()relements andt1WIsi2i~
allowfor blending with the existing neighborhoods. The expected sale price of~les~:i}i
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AlLpublicand private street setback meet the. City ofPriortake'sZo~ngiJ{~gtil~ti9IlS.
No variances are being requested. This site plan does not require the extension of
Greenway Avenue to the southwest as did the previous plan. Wild Oaks Terrace will
provide access to the development and will terminate with a cul-de-sac. Individual lots
are being proposed for each unit (lots 1-21)and they vary in size from 2,520 square feet
to 2,898 square feet. Lot 22 will be designated for common open space. All utilities (gas,
electric, telephone and cable) for lots 1-8 will be located in the front of each lot near Wild
Oaks Terrace. Lots 9-21 will have these utilites in the the front of each lot near the
private drives.
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The' site contain~ a'large wetl~nd on the ~est sid~ orthe 'prop~rty' arid an6ther ~~~11 one',
, (thatthe- applicant haS agreed to have:delineated inthe spring of 1999) along the we,st :
side of Greenway Avenue.. A NURPpop.d will'be,created.on the south' portion of the
, 'prop~rtY near Conroy Street. The applicanthas no desire- or receives any benefit from
, improving Conroy Street, since access for the project 'is' from Greenway' Avenue,
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The site has a high point in the northeast portion and homesites were created to maximize
lookout and walkout style units, while at the same time taking note of ste,epslopes;, There
, are 97 significant trees on the site and the City Code requires 49 to be saved. , This new '
design saves more trees than the previous design. In addition, the City Landscape
Ordinance requires 59 trees to be planted and 96 ~e being proposed in the areas that will
provide more benefit to the proposed site plan. The majority of the hillside of natural'
,.vegetation along Gfeenway Avenue was left untouched in' order to allow a natural buffer
to the eXisting homes to the south.
, Overall this revised plan saves more trees, . decreases the amount of grading and '
excavating, and increases open spaces.' ' ' ' ' '
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relationship of buildings and grounds with resp~ct tOc:l9jacentbuildings,a1'l~i,'
properties and have increased the green space. The extensive landscape plan will
blend the current site with the existing neighborhood.
4.) By using small two and three unit buildings this development will be nestled
between County Road 42 on one side and the existing single family neighborhood
on the other side. These units are not overbearing, nor do they have the massive
appe~rance of a large multifamily development. While single" family
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traffic will be directed through the existing neighborhood: This design will also
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- property. The maintenance costfor'the roadway and parking areas will 'not be
. unusual, and the integriry of the utility lines shallnotbe altered. . The revised plan
. allows us save more significant trees than the previous plan. 'In addition the' ",
landscape' ordinance requiTes 59 additional trees be added while we are proposing
96;'a difference of37 add~tional trees. During construction of this project, erosion'
control measures will be taken,' Since far less grading is required than our
'... preYiouspla~ erosion controlwill be easier and more effective. 'By using .".. ,
settlement' ponds (NURP) in this development the quality of run off "Yaterwill be
..... ;~substantially better., Not orily will the wetlands be fr~e from sediment,' but' als'o':
" ,the infiltration to the, water table may be'increased, since more runoff Will be . '
. : contained in one location. The proximity 'of this site to County Road42 lends'
. itself to a multi-family style of development. .
in regard to the perro'rmance standards listed in the ordinance, this develop~ent
will have adequate fIfe protectio~ no electrical or.vibration disturbance, no
objectionable noise levels, no malodorous gas odors, no air pollutio~ no glare, no
erosion, and no water pollution.
Overall, we believe that the criteria for a CUP have been met.
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All the trees larger than 6" inches have been noted on, our plans. In addition
number of caliper inches has been noted. The CUP requires that 50% of these trees be
saved. We will be saving 45%, and in addition will beplantinganadditional370ver and
above what is required by the landscape ordinance..In additiontpe,existing tree~.1;l1at
currently buffer the property from the neighbors on Conroy Stree,t'Ytllremain. '.
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of buildings and grounds to adjacent building and properties. By downsizing to two unit
and three unit buildings we have not only decreased the visual impact, but have also
increased the amount of green space and open space both between the units and overall
throughout the entire site, In addition the screening from Prior Lake as the DNR has
requested has been accomplished, since the natural buffer along Conroy Street will
remain in place, with not significant tree loss in this area. While the neighborhood would
prefer single family the site does not lend itself to this style of housing both due to the
proximity of County Road 42, and the extensive grading/excavating and tree loss that
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With our revised design, there is no longer the need to improve Conroy Street. 'V'!e are
not suggesting nor in favor of upgradipg this right of way. Also, the drainage and water'
level of the wetland are designednot to flood. The run off calculations indicated that the
wetland is more than ad'equate to handle the drainage of this project.
#5-Watershed District
The total impefvious surface is 10.2%. We achieved this by decreasingtheurut sizes,
private diives an~ street. 'The street grade has been drastically reduced and no longer' "
creates a. problem neither for maintenance nor for run off, This plan has' a rot coverage of
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,Guest' parking has been inc~eased to meet theCill' criteria. ' The revised plan does n~t ,
require the extensive excavation as the previous plan. . We are matching existing grades
as much as possible. Some cutting of grade is still required, but much less than '
previously required.
#7-Economic Viability
By creating smaller units, and offering more than one product this development has great
appeal and we are able to market to a larger segment of the population, Real estate
markets are constantly changing and we recognize this. We have chosen to price our
product accordingly. Multifamily development is often placed close to or near divided
highways, commercial districts, etc. Therefore we believe this is located correctly and is
economi.cally viable etc.
#8-Steep Slopes
The parcel according to staff does have some steep slopes but does not contain any bluffs.
Due to staffs suggestion we altered the street location in order to stay clear from the steep'
slopes at the southern portion of the parcel. We added two retaining walls in order to save
some significant trees. Our revised layout has less steep slope issues than the previous
plan.
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The 6 slips that were at one point a part of this parcel have been sold to the Harbor
Association. They will not be apart of this development unless the Harbor Association
elects to sell them.
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DATE: April 19, 1999
TO: Jane Kansier, Planning Coordinator
FROM: Sue McDermott, Assistant City Engineer;jv.f(
RE: Wild Oaks - Project #98-35
The Engineering Department has reviewed the revised preliminary plat submittal for the
subject project and has the following comments:
1. The City Project number (98-35) must be shown on all plan sheet.
2. The plat must show easements over all of the public utilities that are not in the right of
w~y. The easement width must be a minimum of 15 feet wide or twice the depth of
the utility pipe, whichever is greater.
3. The slopes on the water quality pond are too steep and must conform with the Public
Works Design Manual which requires 6: 1 slopes below the 10 year HWL and 4: 1 or
flatter above the 10 year HWL.
4. Revised storm sewer calculations must be provided. A complete review of the storm
sewer will not be completed until calculations are submitted.
5. The driveways must be a minimum of20 feet wide. "Street A" scales as only 16 feet
wide. In addition, a turn around for emergency vehicles must be provided that is
separate from the parking spaces.
6. Add a note in the profile calling out a minimum depth of 8 feet for the watermain.
7. The water main which provides service to the four units adjacent to "Street A" must
be 6" DIP, not a 1-1/2" copper service.
8. The clean out at the end of the sanitary sewer at "Street A" must be a standard
manhole. All sanitary sewer pipe is to be 8" .
9. Submit a soils report and pavement design with the [mal plat submittal.
10. Detailed plans for the retaining walls will be required. Walls higher than 4 feet are to
be designed by a registered engineer and will require a building permit.
II. All silt fence is to be heavy duty.
12. Provide a swale between units 5 and 6.
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14. Provide a new wetland delineation for the small wetland (pond 100) as well as
sequencing for the mitigation.
Additional comments will be forwarded when all of the required information is submitted
and reviewed.
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INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
,lJ.~.GmNGINEERING
Ralph Teschner
WILD OAKS ADDITION
(assessment/fee review)
April 5, 1999
TO:
FROM:
RE:
DATE:
A 13.82 acre parcel in 30-115-21 (pIN #25 930 1160) is proposed to be platted into Wild Oaks
Addition as a townhouse development. This area has been served with City municipal utilities
under Proj. 75-2 and charged the following assessment:
Trunk Sewer & Water Charge:
13.37 acres @ $1070.00/ac. = $14,305.90
Municipal Utility Assessment:
859.66' @ $31.00/ff. = $26,649.46
These special assessments were paid in full on 6/30/77 by Mrs. Anna Conroy. Subsequently in
1980 the City installed a 12" watermain pipe within the right of way of CSAH 42 to provide an
additional loop in the northeast quadrant of the City. The cost of this installation was to be
shared between the Harbor development and this property under a deferred assessment
memorandum dated September 29, 1980. On 9/6/94 the City Council aDDroved a waiver on the
accrued interest suQject to full pavment of the DrinciDal amount of $17.477.25 at time of sale
and wetlands easement convevance.
Since utilities are available to the property site, the cost for the extension of services internally
will be the responsibility of the developer. In addition to these improvement costs, the
subdivision will be subject to the following City charges:
Stormwater Management Fee
Collector Street Fee
$3180.00/acre
$1500.00/acre
The application of these City charges would generate the following costs to the developer based
upon a net lot area calculation of 6.27 acres as provided within the site data summary sheet of the
final plat description:
Trunk Watermain Agreement Cost:
$17,477.25
Storm Water Management Fee:
6.28 acres@ $3180,OO/ac. = $19,970.00
Collector Street Fee:
6.28 acres @ $1500.00/ac = $9,420.00
16200 Eagle Creek Ave. S,E., Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372-1714 / Ph. (612) 447-4230 / Fax (612) 447-4245
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These charges represent an approximate cost of $2,231 per lot for the 21 proposed townhouse
units within Wild Oaks Addition. Assuming the initial net lot area of the plat does not change,
the above referenced trunk watermain, storm water and collector street charges would be
determined and collected within the context of a developer's agreement for the construction of
utility improvements at the time of final plat approval.
There are no other outstanding special assessments currently certified against the property. Also,
the tax status of the property is current with no outstanding delinquencies.
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Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
Metro Waters - 120() Warner Road, St. Paul, MN 55106-6793
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Dear Ms, Kansier:
I havc provided you with comment.s earlier on t.he proposed plat, and olTer the following addititmal
comments,
Tn reiterate earlier concerns, faxed to YOll January 25, 1999, I recommend the applicanr prepare a detailed
erosion ctmtrnl plan and have it reviewed by the SCt,1tt Soil and Water Conservation Districl, as the si~
conrains steep slopes, During construction, and until vegetative cover has established on disturbed areas.
it is imperative thar proper erosion control measures are implemented and periodically maintained.
I had previously commented on screening of the development from view from the htke, The tree
preservation plan appears to ll1inilTli~c ~xi~ling In:e removal, particularly on the lake side. If opportunity
exists, additionaJ planlings between the unirs and the lake is desirable.
I received a C()py of a March 19, 1999 letter addressed to you from Mr. D.A. Frees regarding sturrnwater
management and blufts. Mr. Frees and I discussed this matter some time ago. You and 1 have discussed
this, and many other blufflT1attcrs many times in the past. As you know, the bluff language, which was
introduced to the shoreland program via 1989 Rule Amendment, has been somewhat diiIicuJt to administer
This is true for many communities in Minncsora. The enclosed letter to Don Rye of your office will attest
to that.
In his letter to you, Mr. Frees correctly conveys my opinion n:garding bluff detinition as it pCl1ains to storm
drainage, ir is my opinion that the intent of the rule regarding bluff..; was to include rhose areas meeting
height and slope requirements of bluff (at least 25 feer above ordinary high water elevation, 30% slope
01' greater, k~cated in a shoreland district) if the drainage was to the shoreland basin. regardless of wether
the drainage was direct or indirect. In the case of Wild Oaks, the bluff areas do not face the lake, and
drainage is not direct (0 Prior Lake, rather it is indirect via other wetlands not regulated by DNR.
J communicated my opinion to both YOll and Mr. Fr~t::s, and also explained that the rule language the city
is charged with adopting and administc::ring is sufficiently grey to the extent that T will not challenge the
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city's interpretation on it.
The purpose of bluff regulation in the revised shoreland rules is to protect the aesthetic qualitic:s of these
teatures, and to ensure slope stability,
The City of Prior Lake has demonstrated sound judgement in administering its floodplain and shoreland
zoning controls. I trust that regardless of wether or not the topography at the Wild Oaks site is considered
as a bluff, appropriate measures will be required of the developer to ensure natural features and water
quality will be protected to the fullest extent of the law.
Thank you ror the (,pportunity to review and comment on the subject zoning matter. If you have any
qllestions, please call me at 651-772-7917.
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Metro Wafers - 1200 Warner Road, 51. Paul. MN 55106-6793
Telephone: (612) 772-7910 Fax: (612) 772-7977
No~'cmber 7, 1997
Mr, Don Rye
City of PriDe Lake
16200 EQgl.-: Creek Avenue, S.E.
Prior Lake, MUUlesota 5.5 372-1714
RE: INTERPRETATION OF BLUFF DEFINITION iN SHORELAND AREAS
Dear Mr. Rye:
Of la.I.c, we have had is great c:IeaJ of discussion rcgJ1l'ding bluJTs within shoreland areas of the City of Prior Lake, This
discussion ha'i included the blutT fllilurc which occurred earlier this YCOU', as well as nWllber of potential and proposed
devc/opmc..'T1lS on lots where bluffs are present.
The City of Prior Lake has adopLed language, from Minnesota R.ules, defining blufj; rop ofblu.u: ,md toe a/hluff I
hnvc reviewed !.he City's ordin(\.f'lce, and have met with City staff to review the administrative proccdu.rr..~ used La
detcmlille top and toe of bluff for specific project'l. While the language in state rule is adm.ittedly a bit cwnbcrsom€.
I concur ')dti. Uu: manner in which the ciLY is administering Lhe ordin(l:lcc 11S it pertmns tn biufr Jdcrmination,
The intent of Lhe regulations limiting development 011 and within the blu.t'f and blurT imp:lcl zones is t::- ensure slop\:
stability, and to presen'e the nat.ural appearance ofLhcsc Lopogrnphic features in shorelalld areas. T11e 30 roo; SLr~cturc
setback from the top of bluff provides a minimum distance betw(.-en the bluff top and Ute proposed building site for the
maneuvering of building materials and equipment during construction.
If Lhc existing defillitions of bluff lOp 01 blujJ and loe of bluff, ll.S e1doptcd, arc dccmed difl:icult to efficiently ami
t;frccth'C!y ~minister (,...3 e:',~0r.:c by I.:ily starr, the DNR would entertain, under the flexibility pr\',~':"';~ns e:f :;,e
ShorcInnd Rules, .,llemi:ltive definitions, provided the original intent of bluff protection is not comrrcmised.
IfYI)\J have any questions, pleasecaU me at 772-7910.
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PUBLIC WORKS AND LANDS DIVISION
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600 COUNTRY TRAIT.- EAST
JORDAN, MN 55352-9339
(612) 496-8346
BRADLEY J. LARSON
ASSOC11\TE APMINIS1'R^TOR
April 16, 1999
Jane Kansier
DRC Coordinator
City of Prior Lake
16QOO Eagle Creek Ave. SE
Prior Lake, MN 55372
Re: REVISED Preliminary Plat and Conditional Use Permit for Wild Oaks
South Side of CSAH 42 between Conroy Street and Greenway Avenue
Dear Ms. Kansier:
P.Ol
Fax: (612) 496-8365
We have reviewed the Revised Preliminary Plat and CUP as they relate to Highway Dopartment
issues. The revisions do not raise any additional concerns, but our comments dated February 3,
1999, are still relevant.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment Please contact us if you have any questions or need
additional information,
Sincerely,
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Graduate Engineer
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SCOTT COUNTY
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JORDAN, MN 55352-9339
(612) 496-8346
BRADLEY J, LARSON
ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR
Fax: (612) 496-8365
February 3, 1999
Jane Kansier
DRC Coordinator
City of Prior lake
16000 Eagle Creek Ave. SE
Prior lake.. MN 55372
Re: Preliminary Plat and Conditional Use Permit for Wild Oaks
CSAH 42 between Conroy Street and Greenway Avenue
Dear Ms. Kansier:
We have reviewed this Preliminary Plat and CUP as it relates to Highway Department issues and
offer the following comments or concerns:
Conditions of Approval
. Access onto CSAH 42 will be allowed only via Greenway Avenue or Conroy Street, as shown
on the preliminary plat.
. Please send drainage calculations for the existing and proposed conditions and a summary
denoting the change of conditions for the portion entering the County system. This will allow
us to review the impacts.
General Comments
. No berming, landscaping, or ponding will be allowed within the County right-of-way.
. Any grading or utility work required within the right-of-way will require a permit prior to the
work commencing.
. Noise levels may increase as traffic volumes increase on CSAH 42. At any new developments
along CSAH 42, such as Wild Oaks, the responsibility for noise attenuation lies with the city
and the developer.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment. Please contact us if you have any questions or need
additional information.
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C: Greg lIkka - City Engineer
email: Brad Larson - County Engineer
An Equal Opportunity/Safety Aware Employer
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