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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
AGENDA REPORT
MEETING DATE:
AGENDA #:
PREPARED BY:
March 221999 f;;y
:~ank Boyles, Executive Direc~
AGENDA ITEM:
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SIGNAGE ON VARIOUS ROADWAYS
IDENTIFYING ROUTES TO PRIOR LAKE.
DISCUSSION:
History
Prior Lake's Strategic Plan states that the City will work to establish a
sense of identity. Identity is established in numerous ways including
signage. The City Council and Economic Development Authority have
already directed that entry monuments be acquired and erected at
various thoroughfares along the City's borders and at the Waterfront
Passage Business Park. This work will be completed when the last
four monuments are received and installed at CSAH 83(southbound),
42(eastbound), 82(eastbound) and 44(westbound).
Current Circumstances
None of the signage along TH169 north- or southbound, or on 135W
southbound identify which exits lead to Prior Lake. Greg IIkka and I
have been working with MNDOT representatives to determine the
size and location of signs along both roadways. Our preferred location
and size was the addition of a sign where the Savage and Shakopee
exits are identified. MNDOT representatives flatly refused citing safety
concerns about installing such large overhead signage with the road
in operation.
Instead, MNDOT has proposed the installation of five signs at various
locations, three of which are 126" x 54" and two of which are 108" x
24". The proposed sign locations and copy are as follows:
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The total cost of these signs is $3,618.00. If the City approves the
MNDOT proposal, the City and County will have to install a sign along
southbound TH 169 just before it exits to CSAH 42 to direct traffic to
either TH13, CSAH 21 or CSAH 83. We estimate that the cost for four
72"x 36" signs is $1800 installed.
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Conclusion
The EDA should determine if it wishes to pursue the installation of the
above described roadway signs.
The key issues are:
(1) Does the EDA believe that the signage will be effective in
assisting motorists to get to Prior Lake?
(2) Is Prior Lake being treated the same as other communities who
wish to add signage to existing MNDOT roadways?
(3) How are the signs paid for?
From a staff perspective, we believe that the signage will assist
motorists. MNDOT representatives have indicated that the policy they
are following with Prior Lake is the same they have followed with
other communities who want to add signage on existing roadways.
The signs could be budgeted in the year 2000 budget as there is no
specific line item in the EDA budget. In the alternative, funds could be
drawn from EDA land acquisition funds.
(1) Approve the purchase of signs and identify a funding source.
(2) Defer action for a specific reason.
Alternative (1). Motion and second to authorize the Minnesota
Department of Transportation to install signage on TH169 and 135W,
and direct the staff for financing therefore.
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November 18, 1998
Messrs. Charles Hudrlik and Larry McKenzie
Minnesota Department of Transportation
2055 North Lilac Drive
Golden Valley, Minnesota 55422
Subject: Prior Lake Exit Signage on T.R. 169 and 1-35
Dear Chuck and Lany:
Thank you for taking the time to meet with Greg Ilkka and I regarding our signage requests. After
reviewing the sites, I understand you will be designing signs and identifying locations for Prior Lake exit
signs as follows:
T.H. 169 Silmage
· T.R. 169 southbound before the CSAH 18 exit.
· T.H. 169 northbound before the CSAH 17 or CSAH 83 exit depending upon the spacing of
existing signs.
1-35 Silmage
· 1-35 southbound before the 185th Street exit.
After the design details and locations have been perfected, I understand you will submit a cost estimate
for sign construction and installation to us. We will then have the option to ask your crews to install the
signs or work with a MnDOT or City contractor.
Please let me lmow if this letter is consistent with your understanding of our conversation. In the
meantime I look forward to receiving your designJIocation details and cost figures. Please let me know if
I can expect them before the end ofthis calendar year.
Sincerely,
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City ~ager
CITY OF PRIOR LAKE
cc: Greg Ilkka
16200 Eagle Creek Ave. S.E., Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372-1714 / Ph. (612) 447-4230 / Fax (612) 447-4245
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Golden Valley Office
2055 North Lilac Drive
Golden Valley, MN 55422
December 18, 1998
Telephone No. (612) 797-3132
Mr. Frank Boyles
City Manager, City of Prior Lake
16200 Eagle Creek Avenue, SE
Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372
Re: City of Prior Lake signing
Dear Frank:
Sorry it's taken me a little longer than expected to respond to your letter of November 18th. When I got
back to the office after our field walk, I realized I promised you a sign at a location where Mystic Lake
Casino is constructing a sign on southbound TH 169; we found another location about 1000 feet north to
install your sign. Attached to this letter are the proposed sign panel layouts and their anticipated field
locations. The cost of fabricating and installing these signs is:
Sign Location Sign # Legend Cost
Southbound TH 169 1 Prior Lake NEXT RIGHT $882.00
Northbound TH 169 2 Prior Lake NEXT RIGHT $882.00
Northbound TH 169 (Ramp) 3 Prior Lake ~ $486.00
Southbound I35W 4 Prior Lake EXIT 184 $882.00
Southbound I35W 5 Prior Lake ~ $486.00
Total $3,618.00
As we discussed some additional trailblazing will be needed on CSAH 42, this trailblazing will be
coordinated by the City with the County and must be inplace before the mainline signs can be installed.
Ifthese signs and locations are acceptable to the City, please send me a check made out to the
Commissioner of Transportation for the amount shown. Upon receipt ofthe check, we will fabricate the
signs for installation in early spring.
Please call if you have any questions or comments.
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