HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/15/08MINUTES OF THE LAKE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
January 15, 2008
The Lake Advisory Committee (LAC) Meeting was called to order at 4:35 P.M.
Members present: Dan O'Keefe (Chair) Harry Alcorn (Vice Chair), Char Jasan,
Donna Mankowski, Jim Marchessault.
Others present: Ross Bintner, Water Resources Engineer; Ken Hedberg, Council
Liaison; 1 resident from Markley Lake.
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
III. OLD BUSINESS
A. Docks Task Force update: Alcorn stated that the group has
completed its work on a policy. O'Keefe reiterated that the task
force consisted of two members of the LAC and two members of
the PC. Bintner stated that the City Council would review the
document in a work session and then it would be presented to the
LAC in February.
IV. OTHER BUSINESS
V. STAFF UPDATE
A. Chloride and Bacteria Testing: Bintner stated that the city does
water quality monitoring in cooperation with the PLSLWD and the
Met Council. Individual monitoring by the City is done for Chloride
concentration throughout the lake and Bacteria near beaches.
Bacteria testing showed no high peak or average concentration.
Alcorn asked what a high peak could be caused by. Bintner
answered that the levels could peak due to runoff events or wildlife.
The City has a policy that spells out when beaches need to be
closed, and has never had to close them due to bacteria levels.
Jasan asked at what level the beaches would be closed. Bintner
explained that a single test over 250 CFU would result in a closure.
Chloride testing over the last seven years were summarized in the
data, chloride has been tested at seven locations both deep and
surface locations across the entire lake. These representative
samples show a slow and stead upward trend in the chloride
concentrations. Possible sources of chloride are road salts and
other sources. The City of Prior Lake is reviewing its winter street
salting program to ensure that we are using material efficiently. An
interesting point in the data was that Lower Prior had the lowest
concentration of chloride of all samples and the Spring Lake
samples were higher. This leads us to believe that there may be
other sources in the upper agricultural areas of the watershed.
Alcorn asked if there was a correlation between these levels and
growth in the lake. Bintner said there was a state standard of
230mg/I for a chronic low level to threshold for wildlife and that we
have not yet reached that level. Alcorn asked if there was an effect
on plantlife. Bintner said he had not seen research on that, but it
was a good area to look into. O'Keefe asked if we have worked
with the DNR to get a sense of what these levels mean. Bintner
said we had not, but the regulating agency would be the MPCA for
this pollutant. The SWCD and Watershed District would be a good
place to start as well.
B. Summary of 2007: Street Sweeping Program & Raingarden
Program. Bintner summarized two water quality related efforts that
began in 2007. The street sweeping program was done as a grant
to the PLSLWD in the amount of $10k. This was recently
presented to the District Board. Highlights of the year were a large
increase in the amount of sweeping. 599 cubic yards or material
and 1176 miles swept. Prior to this tracking system we would
sweep anywhere from 2-4 times per street per year. Average out,
this year we swept each street 12 times. The sweeping effort
showed that a lot of material was picked up in the fall. Alcorn
asked if this program would have an improvement on the quality of
the Lake. Bintner stated that this program helps reduce total
pollutants, but does nothing to clean up the existing system. It will
be hard to track water quality benefits directly. Hedberg asked
where the City stores its street sweepings. Bintner stated currently
there are stockpiles at the maintenance building near Markley lake
and near the Maintenance Center across 21.
C. Look ahead to 2008: Markley Lake Study & Downtown Drainage
Study. Two items are scheduled on the CIP are these drainage
studies. Bintner stated he is just now putting requests for
proposals. Concerns at Markley that will be studied are because
Markley is landlocked. Potential increases in volume of water from
development will be studied. The downtown has three unique
drainage paths. Little prior is a volume sensitive landlocked basin,
the CR21 storm sewer is a water quality sensitive direct pipe
connection, and Cates creek is a rate sensitive drainage path.
D. February meeting conflict - New date Feb 20, 2008. 4:30pm.
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E. PLSLWD Carp Meeting - January 23, 2008. 3:30pm. O'Keefe
asked about the CIP money for this item. Bintner said we had
planned to contribute up to $5k for carp removal but it was unused
for so long we could not justify it. The upcoming meeting was a
reassessment of the carp removal program.
F. Southeast Minnesota Flood Event: The District Engineer reported
on what their expectation would be if the epic storm that struck
southeast Minnesota were to be centered over the Prior Lake
watershed. Bintner reported that although exceptionally improbable
on a yearly basis, flood heights would be amazing. The engineer
predicted 912.5 peak elevations on Prior with the 15 inch rainfall.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Election of Chair and Vice Chair for 2008. Marchesault nominated
Alcorn, O'Keefe Seconded. Jasan nominated Mankowski for Vice
Chair, Alcorn Seconded. Motion Passed (5:0).
B. Introduction of Council Liaison to LAC. Ken Hedberg was
appointed to a second year as LAC CC Liaison.
C. Meeting ideas / Agenda for 2008. O'Keefe asked we handle this
topic via email.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
ADJOURNMENT
THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:40 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Ross Bintner
Water Resources Engineer
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Peter Sorenson from the Univ~e sity of Minnesota made a presentation on Carp habits
in some of the Minnesota lakes.
Carp were first a river fish in the Caspian Sea in Asia. In 1877 the carp were brought
from Germany to the USA. Carp are a specialized bottom feeding fish eating insects,
plants, seeds and .They can dig up down to about one foot; uprooting plants and
nutrients making the water very turbid. Carp are very resilient and rely on chemical
cues to get around. These fish are very intelligent. Their growth is faster than any
other fish and they spawn in the spring.
Dr. Sorenson described findings from studies the University had done to study
integration and phenomenal control of carp. They were looking, in particular, for
ways to sabotage the carp's spawning habits. It was discovered using radioactive fish
that carp do aggregate in the winter in one particular spot in Lake Riley. The carp
have been age identified by using ear bone methods and it was found they were living
up to 50 years. It also appeaxs than no new carp have survived in the last 8 years.
Apparently the population in Lake Riley stays the same despite the fact that spawning
occurs every year. Population graphs show that only in years after a winter kill did
new carp survive. There appears to be high carp numbers in lakes that have access to
marshy areas for spawning.
Peter Sorenson stated that to control carp one would need to do the following:
1. Remove adults.
2. Eliminate re-infestation.
3. Suppress spawning and /or survival of young (recruitment).
4. Monitor, adjust, model: adults, recruits, and water quality.
The Board was asked what they would recommend. The board responded that it
would be pertinent to find out just how many carp there are on Spring Lake. The
Board also suggested that they pursue asking other watershed districts if they would
like to share in the cost of doing a carp study done by a University of Minnesota
graduate student.