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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2002
Fire Station - City Council Chambers
6:30 p.m.
Call Meeting to Order:
Roll Call:
Approval of Minutes:
Consent Agenda: None
Public Hearings:
Case File #02-08 Wensmann Realty is requesting a zone change for 7 acres of
land from the current C-5 (Business Park) District to a R-4 (High Density
Residential) District for the property located on the west side of Pike Lake Trail,
approximately ¼ mile south of County Road 42 and south of Fountain Hills
Drive.
Case File #01-079 Kenneth and Carol Boyles are requesting a rear yard setback
variance to construct a single family dwelling on the property known as 15358
Breezy Point Road.
Old Business:
New Business:
2001 Variance Summary
Discuss Planning Commission Bylaws
Announcements and Correspondence:
Adjournment:
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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2002
1. Call to Order:
Chairman Stamson called the February 25, 2002, Planning Commission meeting to order
at 6:30 p.m. Those present were Commissioners Criego, Lemke, Ringstad and Stamson,
Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier and Recording Secretary Connie Carlson.
2. Roll Call:
Atwood Absent
Criego Present
Lemke Present
Ringstad Present
Stamson Present
3. Approval of Minutes:
The Minutes from the December 10, 2001, Planning Commission meeting were approved
as presented.
Commissioner Stamson read the Public Heating Statement and opened the meeting.
4. Consent: None
5. Public Hearings:
Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier informed the public a notice was received from
Applicants Kenn and Carol Boyles - Variance (5.B) requesting a continuance to the next
Planning Commission meeting scheduled March 11, 2002. Seepage 3.
A. Case File #02-08 Wensmann Realty is requesting a zone change for 7 acres of
land from the current C-5 (Business Park) District to a R-4 (High Density
Residential) District for the property located on the west side of Pike Lake Trail,
approximately ¼ mile south of County Road 42 and south of Fountain Hills Drive.
Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier presented the Planning Report dated February 25,
2002, on file in the office of the City Planning Department.
Wensmann Realty, Inc., filed an application for a zone change for the property located on
the west side of Pike Lake Trail, directly south of Fountain Hills Drive and about 1/8
mile south of CSAH 42. The proposal is to rezone the property of approximately 7 acres
of vacant land from the C-5 (Business Park) and the C-4 (General Business) district to the
R-4 (High Density Residential) District. This property is presently zoned C-5 and C-4
and is designated as R-HD (High Density Residential) on the 2020 Comprehensive Plan
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Land Use Map. The designation of this property was established in 1999 when the City
Council adopted the current 2020 Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map.
Staff recommended approval of the zone change as requested. The proposed R-4 District
is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map designation and Minnesota
Statutes.
Stamson questioned dealing with a small portion of the (business) park in the
Comprehensive Plan as R-4, and that maybe the entire area be looked at. Kansier said
they would be looking at the Comprehensive Plan for other designations between low and
medium districts. It could be initiated at that time.
Applicant Terry Wensmann from Wensmann Homes, stated he will be before the
Planning Commission in a few weeks with the detailed plans. A 64-unit townhome
development has been submitted. The zoning change makes sense as it serves as a zoning
buffer between the business/commercial district and single-family homes. It is a better fit
with the topography preserving the slopes, trees and wetlands.
Comments from the public:
Mike Vierling, 13985 Pike Lake Trail, said he sees tracks going down Pike Lake Trail
every day. Questioned only one access with all the traffic and emergency routes.
Questioned if the applicant was going to have access through his farm and if he intended
to fill in the wetland. Vierling felt there will be more runoff with townhomes. The City
wants more businesses, here's their chance. Concerned with the children, the bikers and
an additional access.
Ed Vierling, 14310 Pike Lake Trail, adjoining property owner, stated his major concern is
the previous density and the arguments to change to Business Park. Vierling felt it
should remain Business Park. Questioned the topography and what will happen to his
property values with townhomes. Concern for the traffic and the runoff into the wetland.
There should be more information to the neighbors before a decision is made.
Kevin Lilland, Embassy Circle, would prefer not to look down on high density housing.
The City keeps pushing for businesses and now they want to rezone and take away from a
possible business development. The City claims them is very little land available for
business parks.
Troy Christopherson, 14314 Robin Road, would like more information. He would not
like to look down over townhome rooftops.
Comments from the Commissioners:
Lemke:
· The time to get more information will be at the March 11, meeting when the
developer comes forward with his plan.
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The concern at this meeting is there is a difference between the Comprehensive
Plan and the Zoning Map. The Comprehensive Plan takes precedence and clearly
states the land is designated for high density. It is a Minnesota Statute and the
Commission cannot change that.
Criego:
· This property was reviewed in 1999 and zoned for high density because of all the
wetlands and sensitive area. It didn't make sense to put an industrial park in the area.
That was the main reason for the decision in 1999.
· It is better suited for high density R-4 area. The developer and City will work closely
together to preserve the wetlands and trees.
· When the Planning Commission looks at this next month I will be looking for a plan
that preserves the existing area. It does not mean the area is maximized with
townhomes. Believes the developer will come forward with a PUD to preserve some
of the terrain.
· Agreed with staff.
Stamson:
· Concurred with Cricgo, felt the topography and thc future use of the land would not
be conducive for a business office park designation. So when the Comprehensive
Plan Amendment was done, the Commission felt it was better suited for high density
residential. It is the right choice.
· The neighbors expressed some valid concerns. When we actually get the plans, the
Commission will look closely and address those issues of trees, roadways and runoff.
· R-4 is the correct use.
Ringstad:
· Agreed with all the comments.
· Staff pointed out it is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
· Supported the change.
MOTION BY CRIEGO, SECOND BY RINGSTAD, TO RECOMMEND THE CITY
COUNCIL APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE FROM THE C-5 (BUSINESS PARK)
DISTRICT TO THE R-4 (HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL) DISTRICT.
Vote taken indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
This matter will go before the City Council on March 18, 2002. The public hearing for
the development will come before the Planning Commission on March 11, 2002.
B. Case File #01-079 Kenneth and Carol Boyles are requesting a rear yard
setback variance to construct a single family dwelling on the property known as
15358 Breezy Point Road.
The staff received a fax from the applicants requesting this matter be continued to the
next meeting, March 11, 2002.
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MOTION BY CRIEGO, SECOND BY LEMKE, TO CONTINUE THE MATTER TO
MARCH 11, 2002.
Vote taken indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
6. Old Business:
7. New Business:
A. 2001 Variance Summary
Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier presented the Summary Report dated February 25,
2002, on file in the office of the Planning Department.
Fifteen applications were submitted in 2002 with requests for 27 variances. Eighteen
were approved and 10 denied, with one to be processed. Three requests were appealed.
The number of requests has significantly decreased since 1999 due to the Zoning
Ordinance revisions addressing many of the former variance criteria.
Comments from the Commissioners:
Lemke:
· Questioned page 4 addressing all the 2002 variance requests. Kansier responded that
was the total requests.
MOTION BY CRIEGO, SECOND BY LEMKE, TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AND
FORWARD ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
Vote taken indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
B. Discuss Planning Commission Bylaws
Planning Coordinator Jane Kansier suggested reviewing Section 2-3-1 regarding an
apprentice period for new Planning Commission members. This practice has not been
applied in the past several years. Staff suggested that part of the section could be deleted.
There were no other obvious changes.
Stamson:
· In the event the Commission cannot get a quorum, it is allowable for a City Council
member sit in as a member. Did not know if that would be appropriate. It has only
come up a few times.
· The Commissioners briefly discussed the matter and decided it would not be
appropriate to have a City Council member fill in.
· Stamson explained the City of Savage's procedure for the Park and Recreation Board.
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Criego:
· Felt it was good practice to keep the apprenticeship.
· Criego and Dave Wuellner were probably the only ones on the apprentice program
for 3 month.
· Thought it was worthwhile. Would llke to see it implemented. Understood it couldn't
be done in the past.
Kansier commented that it had not been practiced in several years but there is no problem
leaving it in.
Lemke:
· Both Ringstad and Lemke were appointed to fill terms that had not expired and
apparently City Council waived the apprenticeship.
· Understands why staff would suggest the deletion.
Ringstad:
If the Commission decides to leave it in, we can make more use of it when certain terms
are up.
MOTION BY CREIGO, SECOND BY LEMKE, TO KEEP THE BYLAWS AS THEY
STAND.
Lemke questioned the time frame for an apprenticeship for a retirement. Kansier
explained the process and the City could be more proactive when terms are expiring.
Vote taken indicated ayes by all. MOTION CARRIED.
8. Announcements and Correspondence:
Stamson officially welcomed new Commissioner Dan Ringstad.
A joint workshop with City Council will be Wednesday, March 6, 2002.
9. Adjournment:
The meeting adjourned at 7:10 p.m.
Jane Kansier
Planning Coordinator
Connie Carlson
Recording Secretary
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