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Home My WebLink About05/19/99 MINUTES OF THE LAKE ADVISORY COMMITTEE May 19, 1999 I. CALL TO ORDER The Lake Advisory Committee (LAC) was called to order on Wednesday, May 19, 1999, at 6:32 p.m. Members present: Marianne Breitbach, Kate Haggerty, Tom Kearney, Roger Soderstrom, Paul Trapp and Rick Warner. Members absent: Doug Larson. Others present: NAME Lani Leichty Bruce Theilen Dave Moran Lenny Gephardt ORGANIZATION City of Prior Lake DNR PLSL Watershed District Prior Lake Ski Club II. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF APRIL 21,1999, MEETING MINUTES MOTION BY HAGGERTY, SECONDED BY WARNER TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 21, 1999. MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSL Y. III. COMPREHENSIVE LAKE MANAGEMENT PLAN (CLMP) Discussion began on what the committee accomplished at the last meeting and what the goals were for the evening. Kearney: Explained that goal number 1, "Manage lake use for safe enjoyment of diverse public interests", was not intended to restrict the lake to certain users. We want everyone to be able to use the lake safely. Trapp: This goal included snowmobilers and ice-fishermen. Soderstrom: The DNR won't allow the City to put restrictions on the lake. Breitbach: Why is Candy Cove restricted? Wuellner: There are a lot of lakes in Minnesota that have been zoned. 16200 Eagle Creek Ave, S,E" Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372-1714 / Ph, (612) 447-4230 / Fax (612) 447-4245 AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER Moran: I think what Pat Lynch said at the last meeting was that any restrictions proposed for the lake need to be approved by the DNR. Haggerty: Reviewing or simplifying the existing regulations on the lake should be looked into. Warner: One objective could be to reduce the number of boating violations. Wuellner: There are a lot of boating practices on the lake that aren't illegal, but are a nuisance. Such as wake-boarding, they stay in the middle of the bay all day, education of the public needs to be improved. Soderstrom: The reason people are in certain locations is because of wind and wave reduction due to the topography and orientation of the lake. None of the information that I have been able to locate on shoreline erosion indicate that boat wakes play a significant role, erosion due to waves is the dominant contributor. I don't think it would be bad to restrict some areas on the lake for certain uses. Warner: We may be able to enforce boats based on a weight basis. Soderstrom: The State did a 12 month study on Personal Water Craft (PWC). The end result of the study was that no more regulations were needed, what was needed was more education of the public and enforcement of the existing laws. Kearney: The Scott County Sheriff just obtained 2 PWC's last year for enforcement on the lake. Trapp: The education part of regulations can be learned by the public. If they don't want new regulations, they need to learn what the existing rules are. Discussion occurred among the committee about boat safety classes, how many people attended them in the past and how effective they have been in educating boat owners. Kearney asked the question of where the issue of the proposed legislative bill was at that would require boaters to obtain a boating license. Soderstrom responded that the way the legislature went about it last year the issue was lost in debate. Kearney: For an action step, we should collect all pertinent data regarding surface water use violations from the Sheriff and see the majority of the violations are. Soderstorm: Talking with Sheriff Nevin there aren't that many violations that are being ticketed. Kearney: Maybe we should use as a criteria how many people are being stopped versus being ticketed. There was discussion about Spring Lake and at what level they should be included in the comprehensive plan. Since there is dual governmental bodies governing this lake the T -- Prior lake plan will only address some of the issues and they could be incorporated into the plan as action steps. Moran: There is a Spring Lake Association that meets, but it is not very active. When Prior Lake goes slow no-wake everyone goes boating on Spring Lake. There was more discussion about Spring Lake and bringing them into planning equation. Moran: How about environmental issues? This brings in a whole new element in to this issue, but maybe it should be addressed in another area of the plan. There was discussion about the 150 foot no~wake distance, safety, erosion and environmental issues. The following surface water use management objectives and actions were developed and approved by the committee. ISSUE: Surface Water Use Manaaement Obiective 1. Review current surface water rules and regulations. Action Step 1. Collect information on minor/adult boating and snowmobile requirements. Action Step 2. Collect data on other lake regulations in the state. Obiective 2. Reduce number of surface water use violations. Action Step 3. Collect number of tickets and warnings given by the County Sheriff and the DNR on Prior Lake for both summer and winter activities. Obiective 3. Improve and emphasize responsible surface water use practices/awareness. Action Step 4. Provide education to the public through the Prior Lake American, license Bureau, Postings, Clubs and classes by the DNR/City. MOTION BY HAGGERTY, SECONDED BY BREITBACH TO APPROVE THE SURFACE WA TER USE MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES AND ACTIONS AS DISCUSSED BY THE COMMITTEE. MOTION PASSED UNA NIMO USL Y. IV. NEW BUSINESS Wuellner mentioned that at the May 17, 1999 City Council meeting that a joint meeting is to be scheduled soon between the Watershed, Council, DNR and that the Lake Advisory Committee was invited to attend. The main focus of the meeting will be to discuss water level management. Due to the timing of the joint meeting to be held between the Council and the Watershed it was decided that the public informational meeting on surface water use management would be held in July and that discussion at the June LAC meeting would be on water level management. T ---.----.- Gephardt mentioned that two members of the Prior Lake Association attended a shoreline volunteer workshop. They learned about alternative techniques for handling stormwater runoff from streets, houses, etc. MOTION BY WARNER, SECONDED BY TRAPP TO v. ADJOURNMENT MOTION BY TRAPP, SECONDED BY HAGGERTY TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION PASSED UNA NIMO USL Y. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:21 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ~ Lanol Leichty - Record' T T SUGGESTIONS FROM THE LAKE QUESTIONNAIRE (PART 2) 1. How could water levels be improved? 1 ) Open outlet sooner. 2) No-wake above 903. 3) OK as is 4) Develop a better way to control the high water especially - dam - watergates - runoff from other lake. 5) Do NOT lower the no-wake limit. It is fine right now and hurts the entire community if it is lowered but having less "tourists" coming to use the lake. Less tax money is collected when no gas etc. is sold. 6) Don't know what our options are for maintaining a consistent level. I am not concerned about low levels (lately) but high levels are good for all. 7) Have larger outlet. 8) Better water outlet? 9) I would not change things further. Tampering with mother nature often backfires. Excessive man made outflow will someday produce a lack of water to counter rainfall shortage. 10) Enlarge the capacity of the lake outlet to better handle high water surges. 11) Can high levels be controlled? 12) Not a big deal. 13) Better use of flood gate and flowage in from Spring Lake. 14) Use the outlet!! And control the in-flow from upper lakes so they all rise and fall equally. 15) The DNR OHWL was for "yesterday" the basin today is being developed the OHWL should be adjusted (lowered) for today's use. 16) No ideas. 17) Better management of the outlet. 18) Larger opening to let water out - let less water in from Spring Lake. 19) They are fine the way they are - let nature take it's course. 20) Restrict water let in from Spring Lake and better manage outflow of Prior. 21) Outlet channel should be improved for more effective high water control. 22) Upstream and inflow ponding - Prior Lake is a low level lake with >904 OHWL not normal I believe. 23) The watershed inlets lets so much water in and who knows what fertilizers etc. is in the water. 24) Increase outlet capabilities to enable quicker drainage of lake thus reducing risk when leaving it at high levels. 25) Control Spring Lake - you do that by annexing Spring Lake Township then taking care of the septic tanks. 26) Stop storm drains built that drain into lake. 27) Keep outlet open to a lower level when we're in a wet pattern - such as now with wet October and above average snow expected. 28) Create 2nd outlet, improve erosion control downstream and let water out at a faster pace when absolutely necessary (at 903). 29) Make sure outlet is in good working order and is utilized. 30) Lower high water mark by 6 inches. 31) By proper use of the outlet - it has never been opened to full flow even when lake is dangerously high. 32) Let more water out, let less water in from Spring Lake. 33) By opening outlet sooner and keeping weeds from blocking outlet. -------..--..~.....--..---T--... !;.~GephqJ;C ).,A/<E ;fDV/StJ,eV C:Oml?l/~ 5-/l-Yl 1& . _ _ /'1or;ant 6- p~ 1- 'I) CoA/j/e1I/C ~ G,r32 f/J? ~~H, '2) /(11 I ~ Y /2w ~,Irt:IIlI/IIM - ;Jl;~trftf 1lrI~ t-t~. 3) CLmP Ocwe m, a.) 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