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MINUTES OF THE LAKE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
June 18, 2002
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Braddy called the Lake Advisory Committee (LAC) Meeting to order at
6:30 P.M. Members present: Dale Braddy, Charles Gerlach, Lauren
Huntington, and Dan O'Keefe. Members absent: Shirley Gengler.
Others present: Paul Nelson Prior Lake I Spring Lake Watershed District,
Lynn Cyrus Prior Lake / Spring Lake Watershed District, Marv Mirsch, Sue
McDermott; City Engineer, Larry Poppler; Assistant City Engineer.
II. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MAY 21,2002 MEETING MINUTES
MOTION BY GERLACH, SECOND BY HUNTINGTON TO APPROVE THE
MAY 21, 2002 MEETING MINUTES. UPON A VOTE TAKEN, MOTION
PASSED UNANlMOUSL Y.
III. PRESENTATION BY LYNN CYRUS, PRIOR LAKE I SPRING LAKE
WATERSHED DISTRICT ON THE LAKE FRIENDLY PROJECT
Chair Braddy introduced Lynn Cyrus presenting the Lake Friendly Project.
Cyrus described the Lake Friendly Project. Residents can call and request a
site visit and a question/answer session from the Prior Lake/Spring Lake
Watershed District. The visit is intended to review drainage patterns and
observe yard care practices. The incentive for the property owner to
participate in the program is $100 in property improvement coupons. The
participants receive a letter detailing the results of the visit as well as useful
advice to improve the property from a "lake friendly" standpoint. The
participants also receive three packets. The packets include information, tips,
CD, and reminder stickers. Homeowners don't need to live on the lake to
participate in the program. To date 26 homeowners have participated in the
program. Looking for 100 participants or more.
Braddy asked what the next step would be for the program.
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Nelson replied that the participants would receive a follow up call to see what
suggestions were actually implemented. They will then evaluate the program
to see areas that are worth targeting.
Braddy asked if the Prior Lake Association is aware of the program.
Nelson replied that the Prior Lake Association is a partner.
Braddy asked what the LAC could do to help spread the word about the
program.
Cyrus stated that the program was advertised in the Wavelength at one time.
Word of mouth seems to be the best method of spreading the word about the
program.
Braddy mentioned that the ongoing status in the Wavelength might be useful.
Braddy asked if the City property around the lake has participated in the
program.
Nelson replied that when approached, they will evaluate City property.
McDermott asked what can be done to deter geese.
Nelson replied that tall vegetation and string-lines are the easiest and most
productive deterrents for geese.
O'Keefe asked what the funding was for the project.
Nelson replied that the funding comes from a Grant from the Met Council.
The grant was for $43,000, with $8,000 for the incentives.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
a. Surface Water Ordinance:
McDermott stated that LAC needs to recommend action to the council on
the surface water ordinance or write a report stating the need for no
change to the ordinance.
Braddy mentioned that further study is necessary.
Huntington stated that officers need help in enforcement and a study may
help get more enforcement.
O'Keefe asked how is the survey done?
McDermott stated that the White Bear Lake survey example was
expensive and to do that type of survey, to find out that nothing needs to
be done, would be excessive. Maybe the fall citywide survey with
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additional lake questions would provide useful information that could be
used in determining if the ordinance needs changing. McDermott also
mentioned that she talked with Rick Brasch about doing some low level
aerial photography over the lake during a high use day and on low use
day to compare the boat traffic.
Braddy mentioned that maybe we should approach the people on the lake
who have airplanes to see if they would be willing to help.
Huntington said that on the days of the fly-over photographs, a person
should count the number of boats coming from the landings.
Braddy asked if maybe Boy Scouts could be used to question the people
at the boat landings and count the number of boats. They could also
count the docks and rafts.
Gerlach said the other way to know if the traffic on the lake is local is to
have someone count the number of boats on the docks in the early
morning.
Braddy questioned whether the DNR has data regarding Prior Lake as
they could be concerned with similar issues and asked if McDermott
would check into that.
Braddy suggested members identify several issues that could be included
in the citywide survey for discussion at the next meeting.
b. Water Testing at the Beaches:
McDermott distributed information from Rick Brasch regarding bacteria
testing in Hennepin County.
Braddy questioned whether any of Prior Lake beaches have been closed
in the past due to water quality.
McDermott mentioned that none that she knows of. Most of the beaches
closed in the Hennepin County Parks system were due to goose
droppings.
Huntington asked if there is a problem with geese on Prior Lake?
Braddy replied that there really isn't a goose problem on Prior Lake.
McDermott mentioned that the recommendations from Three River Park
District were to test consistently. They test once a week to determine the
public's exposure to bacteria. Tests are less than $20.00 per sample. E-
Coli is the bacteria that causes illness.
Braddy and Huntington asked if the water coming in from Spring Lake can
be tested as well as the beaches.
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Huntington mentioned that in another community baggies for dog
droppings are distributed in the parks.
McDermott will propose testing in next year's budget.
Mirsch mentioned that the chlorides from the June were higher than
expected.
McDermott stated that those areas will be retested.
V. NEW BUSINESS
a. Lake Issues to be included in Community Survey
McDermott stated that the survey is performed over the phone during the
winter months and the LAC can include a few questions for the survey to
gather input regarding the lake. The 1999 phone survey contacted 400
residents.
Braddy asked when does the LAC have to have their questions
completed and how many lake questions can be included.
McDermott replied that if the LAC members develop 10 questions or
issues each, the LAC can discuss which may be proposed for the survey.
Braddy stated that members of the LAC should bring in their 10 questions
for discussion at the next LAC meeting.
b. Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance relating to water oriented
accessory structures
McDermott stated that the Planning Commission is requesting input from
the LAC regarding the ordinance relating to the placement of water
oriented accessory structures. The current language in the ordinance
allows one water oriented accessory structure on lots that have a slope of
at least 20%. The proposed language in the ordinance would allow one
water oriented accessory structure regardless of slope.
After much discussion the LAC decided that they approve of the
ordinance modification.
Braddy thanked the Planning Commission for involving the LAC in this
item.
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VI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY O'KEEFE, SECONDED BY GERLACH TO ADJOURN THE
MEETING AT 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Sue McDermott
City Engineer
Larry Poppler
Assistant City Engineer
Note: There will be no July meeting due to the citywide tour on July 29th.
More information will follow.
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