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APRIL 2, 1992
CALL 7O ORDER
REVIEW MINUTES CP PREVIOUS MEETING
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
APRIL 2, 1992
The April 2, 1992, Planning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Chairman Loftus at 7:30 P.M. Those present were
Commissioners Loftus, Arnold, Wuellner, Director of Planning
Horst Graser, Assistant City Planner Deb Garross, Associate
Planner Sam Lucast, and Secretary Rita Schewe. Commissioner
Wells was absent. Commissioner Roseth arrived at 7:50 P.M.
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
WRITTEN.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus and Arnold. Commissioner
Wuellner abstained as he was not present at the previous meeting.
MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM II - CURT MOEN - VARIANCE
Deb Garross informed the Commissioners that the Moen variance had
been removed from the agenda by City Manager Unmacht. The
applicant wishes to discuss the application further with Staff to
determine if a variance is needed. The property owners will be
notified if necessary.
Discussion followed on the retreat agenda items, buildingq
activity, development activity, and the progress of the proposed
Super Valu Grocery Store.
ITE III - TRACY VAN DEN BERG - VARIANCE
Tracy Van Den Berg, 15629 Highland Avenue N.W., stated they are
requesting a 5 foot east side yard variance to construct a single
family home at 4991 Beach Street. Bob Banitt, contractor for the
applicant, presented information regarding the house and the
subject site.
Deb Garross presented the information as per memo of April 2,
1992. The lot is not a substandard lot, but is relatively low
near Beach Street with a knoll adjacent to the lakeshore. There
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were no objections from DNR. The house could be built without
any variances, however, the home would be out of line with the
rest of the existing houses and the view of the lake would be
obstructed by the knoll near the lakeshore. Section 9.3E 2,
permits the use of setback averaging for the subject site. In
this instance the setback average of adjacent homes is 63 feet
from the 904 contour line. If the home were constructed to
comply with all required setbacks, the knoll would obstruct the
view of the lake from the house. Staff's recommendation is to
deny the 5 foot variance and approve a 2.5 foot east yard
variance.
Comments from the Commissioners were on; tree removal, drainage,
easement, and were supportive of the amended variance.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY WUELLNER, TO APPROVE A 2.5 EAST SIDE
YARD VARIANCE FOR 4991 BEACH STREET RATIONALE BEING THAT IT IS A
MINIMUM AMOUNT OF DEVIATION, IS WITHIN THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF
THE ORDINANCE, HARDSHIP IS CAUSED BY THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE
SUBJECT SITE AND THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE
HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Wuellner, Loftus, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM IV - LEON KRUEGER - VARIANCE
Leon Krueger, 16850 Willow Lane, contractor representing the
property owner Kathy Gensmer, stated they are requesting a 4.4
foot north side yard variance and a 14 foot lakeshore variance
for 3171 Linden Circle in order to construct a new single family
residence.
Deb Garross presented the information as per memo of April 2,
1992. There are no previous proposals on file for this site,
however, a controversial variance application for Paragon Homes
was issued in 1990 for the adjacent Lot 50 which was granted
variances by the Planning Commiss on and the City Council after
much deliberation. Staff recommends that the neck of the
driveway be reduced at the property line to preserve two large
oak trees. There were no objections from DNR. A letter from Sue
Nielsen objecting to the side yard variance was received. Also
received was a letter containing the names of Barry 6 Trivia
James, Harry 6 Leslie Maudsley, Herb i June Lemke, Rich i Sheryl
Wilfong, Peter Kuehn, Cal i Marge Ells, Dean A Kay Sutliff, and
Bill 6 Mary Lindstrom, voicing their objections to the proposed
variances. Staff recommends that a new easement be signed
indicating the correct location of the existing sever lines, the
4.4 foot north side yard variance be approved and the 14 toot
lakeshore variance be denied. Staff would recommend a 10 foot
lakeshore variance with the conditions listed in the Staff
report.
Kathy Gensmer, 16989 DeWitt Ave. SW disagreed with moving the
house toward the road. She explained that her view of the lake
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would be obstructed and that her request for a 14 foot lakeshore
variance was reasonable considering adjacent Lot 50 received a 25
foot lakeshore and a 5 foot front yard variance.
Mike MacKany, 3175 Linden Circle; Dean Sutlief, 3162 Linden
Circle; Triva James, 3147 Linden Circle; and Harry Maudsley 3189
Linden Circle, voiced their objections citing grading drainage,
destruction of the private road during construction, tree
removal, parking concerns, driveway location, and design of the
house.
Comments from the Commissioners were on relocation of the house,
drainage, tree location, reversing the house plan, supporting a
lesser variance, and reducing the size of the garage.
Larry Anderson, city Engineer, presented information regarding
the elevation of Lots 48, 49, and 50, stating that the grade of
the lot necessitated that the house be placed in the lot as
designed.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO APPROVE A 2.5 FOOT NORTH
SIDE YARD VARIANCE AND A 14 FOOT LAEESHORE VARIANCE FOR 3171
LINDEN CIRCLE SUBJECT To THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THE NECK OF THE DRIVEWAY BE REDUCED NEAR THE FRONT
PROPERTY LINE IN ORDER To RETAIN THE TWO EXISTING TREES.
2. THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A NEW .BASEMENT, AS REQUIRED BY
THE CITY ENGINEER, TO COVER.. THE EXISTING SANITARY SEWER
LINE LOCATED NEAR THE SHORELINE.
RATIONAL BEING THE SUBJECT SITE IS A SUBSTANDARD LOT, SIMILAR
VARIANCES HAVE BEEN GRANTED WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT
WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE
COMMUNITY.
AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION WAS MADE TO CHANGE THE GARAGE FROM 28
FEET WIDE BY 24 FEET DEEP TO 28 FEET DEEP BY 24 FEET WIDE,
THEREBY REDUCING THE NORTH SIDEYARD VARIANCE TO A .5
FOOT VARIANCE WHICH WAS AGREEABLE WITH THE APPLICANT.
vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Wuellner, Arnold, and
Loftus. MOTION CARRIED.
Recess called at 9:00 P.M. The sleeting was reconvened at 9:12
P.M.
_' BLIC HEARING- WARREN ISRAELSON- CARRIAGE HILLS PRELIMINARY PLAT
The Public Hearing was called to order at 9:12 P.M. by Chairman
Loftus. The public was in attendance.
Warren Israelson, owner and developer of Progress Land Company,
presented the proposed preliminary plat of Carriage Hills. The
site consists of approximately 97 acres with some wooded areas
and some wetland areas. Mr. Israelson showed the location of the
lots, streets, and ponds. There are 16.52 acres of parkland with
trail ways. The prices of the homes proposed to be built range
from $130,000 to $200,000. Protective covenants will be
implemented and house styles will be varied. There will be 223
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lots for a gross density of 2.3 units per acre which is less than
the 3.5 units per acre permitted by the Zoning ordinance. The
Fall Home Festival is a promotional event proposed for this fall
and the applicant hopes to have several models built by early
August.
Horst Graser presented the information as per memo of April 2,
1992, diving the various definitions on the Site Analysis as
listed in the memo. The developer was recently successful in
amending the comprehensive plan and zoning ordinance. The
Metropolitan Council is currently considering this amendment
which will conclude in early June. The topography of the area
offers a very impressive vista of the adjoining countryside. The
property is zoned R -1 Single Family Residential. The minimum lot
size is 10,000 square feet. The permitted density is 3.5 units
per acre with a maximum lot coverage of 188. A 108 parkland
dedication is required.
Staff has no major objections to the design that has been
submitted by the applicant because it is consistent with Prior
Lake Zoning and Subdivision ordinance and Comprehensive Plan.
Larry Anderson, City Engineer, gave a brief summary on the
wetlands located on the site, storm water and water quality, and
drainage.
Bill Mangan, Parks Director, explained the reasoning for park
dedication. The Parks Department is pleased with the design,
open space, and park trails shown in the proposed subdivision.
The park dedication requirement has been satisfied as proposed in
the preliminary plat.
E.K. Whiting -14897 Manitou Road, objected to the proposed lot
size and had questions on the wetland and Metropolitan Council
reply. Don Abrahms -14877 Manitou Road, wanted clarification on
the extension of the road to Manitou Road. The Abrahms suggested
that the street not be improved or that erosion control such as a
temporary cul -de -sac be installed to prevent erosion in the
Manitou Road area in the interim between when Carriage Hills
develops and adjacent property by Leo vierling develops. Lindy
Larson -15079 Manitou Road, questioned possible lake access and
style of houses built. Ted Kowalski -3975 Hidden Pond Trail, was
in support of the proposal and feels that Prior Lake needs
growth. Additional families will support the schools and tax
roles. Brad Wahl -14954 Timberglade Circle, stated he is not in
favor of small lots and that Prior Lake can not afford it.
Darcis Klien -14950 Timberglade Circle, wanted to know what the
restrictive covenants will be. Paul 8rickson -4112 Hidden Pond,
wanted larger lots in the development. Jim Halleck -14869 Manitou
Road, supports the development but would like to see the two lots
at the end of Manitou made into outlots until the adjacent
Vierling property develops.
Comments from the Commissioners were on: type and style of house
designs, tree planting, landscaping, parks, proposed covenants,
entrance structures, storm water management, preliminary plat
definition, landscaped traffic dividers proposed by the applicant
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to slow traffic, lot requirements are met, neighborhood
associations, County Road 21 planting, housing opportunity for
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Prior Lake, arking for Carriage Hill Park, sidewalks, and impact
to the City.
Kathleen Abrahms -14677 Manitou Road, was concerned about Vierling
property and cattle and what protection would he have. Larry
Anderson stated that Mr. Vierling agreed to sell part of his
property to construct a ponding area and Carriage Hill Parkway.
The public was informed that the issue of potential future
trespassing on private property would be a civil matter and did
not pertain to the subdivision issue at hand.
Mr. Graser advised the Commissioners that there is an
architectural ordinance in force for Prior Lake that precludes
development of repetitive house designs and the Carriage Hills
plat is consistent with the City Comprehensive Plan and met the
obligations of the Zoning and Subdivision ordinance. Therefore
the Staff recommends approval of the preliminary plat subject to
the conditions outlined in Staff's memo.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO RECOMMEND To CITY COUNCIL
TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF CARRIAGE HILLS WITH THE
FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS:
1. THE PARK LOCATED SOUTH OF CARRIAGE HILL PARKWAY SHOULD
CONTAIN A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT INCLUDES AN OFF - STREET
PARKING LOT. A PROPOSED PARK DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOULD BE
ESTABLISHED FOR CITY COUNCIL REVIEW OF THE PRELIMINARY
PLAT.
2. THE TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENT OF THE SUBDIVISION
ORDINANCE REQUIRES FOUR (4) TREES PER CORNER LOT. THE
TREE PLANTING PLAN SHALL BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THE
CODE.
3. THE DEVELOPER AND STAFF RESEARCH A METHOD WHEREBY A
PLANTING PROGRAM NAY BE DEVELOPED ADJACENT TO COUNTY
ROAD 21, ALONG THE NORTH PART OF THE PLAT TO PROVIDE A
BUFFER TO THOSE LOTS. PROGRAM MUST BE WORKABLE AS PER
COUNTY ROAD 21 IMPROVEMENT PLANS.
4. STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND QUALITY PLAN BE DEVELOPED AND
SUBMITTED ACCEPTABLE TO STAFF.
5. 12.5 FEET OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT -OF -WAY FOR COUNTY ROAD 21.
6. WETLANDS INVENTORY AND MITIGATION PLAN BE SUBMITTED
ACCEPTABLE TO STAFF.
RATIONAL BEING THAT THE PLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN, ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND WOULD NOT BE
DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
Discussion followed on restrictive covenants and Mr. Graser
advised the commissioners that the City has no authority to
require restrictive covenants.
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Vote taken signified ayes Roseth, Arnold, Wuellner, and Loftus.
MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Arnold, Wuellner, and
Loftus. MOTION CARRIED. Public Hearing closed at 11:25 P.M.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO AWOURN THE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Arnold, Wuellner, and
Loftus. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting closed at 11:26 P.M. Tapes on file at City Hall.
Horst W. Graser Rita M. Schere
Director of Planning Recording Secretary
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AG ENDA
APRIL 16, 1992
7:30
P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
7:30
P.M.
REVIEW MINUTES
OF PREVIOUS
MEETING
7:30
P.M.
HEARING
VARIANCE
STEVE BURDICK
SDE JOHNS
7:45
P.M.
HEARING
VARIANCE
DENNIS MCGILL
8:00
P.M.
HEARING
VARIANCE
GOLDEN NOME
BUILDERS INC.
8:15
P.M.
DISCUSSION
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STAFF
ORDINANCE
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All times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the
exception of Public Hearings, are approximate and may start later
than the scheduled time.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
APRIL 16, 1992
The April 16, 1992, Planning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Chairman Loftus at 7:30 P.M. Those present were
Commissioners Loftus, Wuellner, Wells, Director of Planning Horst
Graser, Assistant City Planner Deb Garross, Associate Planner Sam
Lucast, and Secretary Rita Schews. Commissioner Roseth arrived
at 7:40 P.M. Commissioner Arnold was :absent.'
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
MOTION BY WUELLNER, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
WRITTEN.
vote taken signified ayes by Wuellner, and Loftus. Commissioner
Wells abstained as she was not at the previous meeting. NOTION
CARRIED.
ITEM II - STEVE BURDICK JOHNS - VARIANCE
Doreen Kiplinger of Realty World -Kubes of Shakopee, represented
the applicants Steve Burdick and Sue Johns of 7333 Gallagher
Drive, Edina, MN. The application is for a four (4) foot north
side yard variance and a 5000 square foot lot area variance to
construct a single family tri -level dwelling at 16560 Spring
Avenue. The applicants plan to save as many trees as possible.
Sam Lucast, Associate Planner, presented the information as
memo on April. 16 1992. Previous variances were granted in 1990
to this subject site for a 12 foot east rear yard and a 3000
square foot lot area. The applicant at that time did not build
nor did he extend the app lication after one year, therefore, the
variances expired. DNR'did not object to the variances but
expressed concerns on erosion control. The subject site is
heavily wooded with steep slopes and is adjacent to a storm water
management pond. The site is a`lot of record that was created
under the jurisdiction of a previous government body. Staff
recommends aonroval of the anelinatien with nnnAir4n,.
Mark Rivers, 16581 Spring Avenue, stated that he .uses the sewer
easement for a driveway and had been told at the time he
purchased his property that the subject site was not buildable.
Jim Berg, 3893 Green Heights Trail, voiced his concern that a
precedent would be set by allowing this variance, questioned if
the pond was part of Prior Lake, could the outlot be built on,
front setback for the subject site, and who would repair storm
sewer if it is damaged.
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comments from the Commissioners were on; a retaining wall, fill,
house location, trees lost, lot of record and is buildable,
neighbors need to work out driveway situation, grading and
erosion control, and new standards would have to be met on the
outlot.
MOTION BY WELLS, SECOND BY WUELLNER, TO APPROVE THE FOUR (4) FOOT
NORTH SIDE YARD AND 5000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. AREA VARIANCE FOR 16560
SPRING AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THE APPLICANT MUST.- SUBMIT -.A GRADING AND
VEGETATION RESTORATION :PLAN ACCEPTABLE TO STAFF-
2. EROSION
RATIONALE BEING THAT THE LOT Is A suasTnnuauv •A. yr
HARDSHIP WAS NOT CREATED BY THE APPLICANT BUT BY THE ORDINANCE
AND WOULD .:NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE: OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD...
Vote taken signified ayes by Wells, Wuellner, Loftus, and Roseth.
MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM III - DENNIS MCGILL - _VARIANCE
Dennis McGill, 4281 Quaker Trail, stated that he is requesting a
three (3) foot east side yard variance to construct a�ck on the
lake side of his home. If the deck was constructed at the ten
foot setback, the railing would be in the middle of a window. The
xeasioie.
Sam Lucast, Associate Planner, presented the information as per
memo of April 16, 1992. The home was built in the 1920's and in
now under extensive remodeling. The subject site is in an area
where most existing structures= do not meat 'current setback
standards. The deck is designed to save the two trees within the
building envelope. DNR does not object to the variance 'request.
Staff's recommendation is to approve the three !foot variance as
it is a reasonable request and would not encroach closer to the
side property line than the existing wall. The Planning
Commission has tended to allow for continuing, but no
increasing, legal non - conforming setbacks in older established
neighborhoods which contain substandard lots.
Consensus from the Commissioners were that all were in agreement
with the variance request.
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY WELLS, TO APPROVE A °.THREE (3) FOOT
EAST SIDE YARD VARIANCE FOR 428: QUAKER TRAIL AS IT IS ;A
REASONABLE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED' DECK WILL CONTINUE, BUT NOT
INCREASE THE LEGAL NON - CONFORMING SETBACK FOR - THESITE,AND IT
WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE
COMMUNITY.
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Vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Wells, Loftus and Wuellner.
MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM IV - GOLDEN HOME BUILDERS INC. - VARIANCE
Norm Erickson of Edina Realty -Prior Lake, represented the
applicant Golden Home Builders of Plymonth, MN, and the
prospective buyers Art & Shari Zurn. Several variances are being
requested in order to construct a single family home, septic
system, and well, at 15512 Drake Avenue NW....
Deb Garross, Assistant City, Planner, presented the information as
per memo of April 16, 1992. The subject site is a mates and
bounds lot of record. Drake Avenue is a gravel road and there
an area to urban density cave
standards for future development a
application. The recommendation
32,610 square foot lot area and 67
deny the -76.5 front setback va
which is the required setback from
public utilities. The Engineering
home be moved further to the west
yard setback. The City Attorney a
a waiver of assessment appeal f
the County Recorder's office.
Tom Dalain, 3620 154th Street, wan
for the sewer line that was in
that is near his property.
Comments from the Commissioners we
denial, tree replacement, question
and well placement, redesign hous
easement requirements.
A recess was called at 9:25 P.M.
P.M.
After a discussion with the
continued to May 7, 1992, at 7:30::
ITEM V - TANnACAl= AUnTmAN1 - nTA
s reconvened at 9 :35
, the variance was
Horst Graser gave a brief`
draft and introduced Greg
Services Planning and Engi
draft. Mr. Kopischke "'oe
ordinance that is proposed
commercial, industrial, an
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sections covered were: purpo
calculations of requirements
credits for existing materia
lot landscape; screening
guarantee; and submission re
comments were made by the
the ordinance. Dave Unmacht
support of the landscape
requiring this regulation to
; general landscape requirements;
credits and sizes; plant sizes;
variation of plant sizes; parking
grounds and lawns; performance
irements. Discunaion followed and
mmissioners to be incorporated into
City Manager, stated that he is in
dinance. The Comprehensive Plan is
MOTION BY ROSETH, SECOND BY WELLS, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
vote taken signified ayes by Roseth, Wells, Wuellner, and Loftus.
MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 11:35 P.M. Tapes of meeting on file at City
Hall.
Horst W. Graser Rita M. Schwa
Director of Planning Recording Secretary