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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AGENDA
DECEMBER 3, 1992
7:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER
7:30 P.M. REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
7:30 P.M. VARIANCE: TIME LIMIT
EXTENSION TO ALLOW A
DENSITY VARIANCE TO BE
VALID FOR MORE THAN 1 YEAR
7:45 P.M. CONTINUE DISCUSSION RELATIVE
TO DUTIES OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION
* Indicates a Public Hearing
JAMES MILLER
APPROXIMATELY 15
ACRES LOCATED EAST
OF JACKSON TRAIL ON
NORTHERN PRIOR LAKE
ALLEN GREENFIELD
PLANNING COMMISSION
All times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the
exception of Public Hearings, are approximate and may start later
than the scheduled time.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
DECEMBER 3, 1992
The December 3, 1992, Planning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Chairman Roseth at 7:30 P.M. Those present were
Commissioners Loftus, Arnold, Greenfield and Roseth, Director of
Planning Horst Graser, and Secretary Rita Schewe. Commissioner
Wuellner arrived at 7:45 P.M.
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
commissioner Greenfield wished to clarify the motion on page 4,
paragraph 8, second line, by adding the words "THE BY -LAWS OF THE
CITY COUNCIL IN CHAPTER 3, 1 ' to the motion. This sentence was not
included at the time of the motion, but reference had been made
to the chapter during Commissioner Greenfield's presentation.
After consulting with Mr. Graser the amendment was made.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
AMENDED.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Greenfield, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM II - JEROME MILLER - VARIANCE EXTENSION
Jerome Miller, 15563 Calmut Ave. NE, represented his wife,
Phyllis Miller, who is the applicant. The request before the
Commissioners is an extension of a variance that had been granted
to William Henning on September 17, 1992, by the City Council.
Mr. Miller stated that he and his wife are not ready to build and
would like additional time to prepare plans.
Mr. Graser presented the information as per memo of December 3,
1992. The property in question had bean sold to the applicant
after the variance was granted. City Attorney Glenn Kessel
drafted an agreement setting forth the stipulations of the
findings of fact and that the variance will run with the land for
a period not to exceed twenty years. However, because the twenty
year time frame was not specifically cited in the findings of
facts, Attorney Kessel suggested that a separate variance be
filed to clarify the time limit issue.
Pending the decision by the Commissioners on this variance, Staff
will contact Harold Bohlen to determine his interest in
obtaining a similar clause to a comparable variance granted to
his property located south of the Titus Addition.
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Comments from the Commissioners were on the 20 year time limit
and all were in agreement of the extension.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY GREENFIELD, TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE
EXTENSION FOR LOTS 6 - 10, BLOCK 1, TITUS 2ND ADDITION AND LOTS 7
- 12, BLOCK 2, TITUS 2ND ADDITION. RATIONAL BEING THAT IT IS
FEASIBLE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO STABILIZE THE VALUE OF THE
PROPERTY, IT WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE
OF THE NEIGHDORHOOD, AND THAT ANOTHER LAND OWNER IN A SIMILAR
SITUATION WILL HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Greenfield, Arnold, and
Roseth. MOTION CARRIED.
An update of ongoing projects was given by Mr. Graser.
ITEM III - COMMISSIONER GREENFIELD - CONTINUATION OF DISCUSSION
ON PLANNING COMMISSION DUTIES
The items on Attachment A numbered from 1 to 9 and Attachment B
were discussed and each commented on separately. Some changes
were made to these items.. Comments were on conducting public
hearings to solicit opinions from the community and send
questionnaires to all households. Consensus was that it is too
soon to change the By -Laws. Questionnaire will be composed at
the next meeting.
Carl Hanson, 4065 Raspberry Ridge, stated the proposed
attachments expands on what is already in place and gives further
definition of the existing ordinance.
MOTION BY GREENFIELD, SECOND BY ARNOLD, THAT THE PLANNING
COMMISSION WILL ADOPT THE FOLLOWING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THESE
ACTIONS TO COMPLY WITH THE BY -LAWS OF CITY COUNCIL IN CHAPTER 3,
SECTION 1, PARAGRAPH 2 -3 -4: DUTIES OF COMMISSION SUB PARAGRAPH
(A).
1. SCHEDULE AN ONGOING OPEN WORKSHOP, AT LEAST ONE BUT NOT
LIMITED TO ONE EACH MONTH, TO ACCOMPLISH THE FOLLOWING:
A. CONDUCT NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOPS BY SPECIAL INVITATION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON A ROTATING BASIS TO COVER ALL
PLANNING DISTRICTS OVER A 2 YEAR PERIOD. NOTIFICATION
SENT TO ALL. SOURCE OF DISSEMINATION TO BE DECIDED.
B. INVITE GUEST SPEAKERS FROM MN PLANNING, PLANNING
CONSULTANTS AND PLANNERS FORM LOCAL COMMUNITIES, ETC. TO
SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON A REGULAR BASIS.
C. INVITE LOCAL AREA RESIDENTS TO SPEAK REGARDING CONCERNS
OF ANY NATURE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
2. CREATE A QUESTIONNAIRE FOR MAILING TO ALL HOUSEHOLDS AND
BUSINESSES IN PRIOR LAKE. SOURCE OF DISSEMINATION TO BE
DECIDED.
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3. ENROLL THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION
AND THE MINNESOTA CHAPTER TO KEEP INFORMED OF CURRENT
PLANNING ISSUES. ALLOW TIME UNDER NEW BUSINESS EACH MEETING
TO DISCUSS ANY PERTINENT ISSUES.
Vote taken signified ayes by Greenfield, Arnold, Roseth, Loftus,
and Wuellner. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Wuellner, Roseth,
and Arnold. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 10:18 P.M
Hall.
Tapes of meeting on file at City
Horst W. Graser
Director of Planning
Rita M. Schewe
Recording Secretary
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NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING OF
THE PRIOR LAKE PLANNING COMMISSION
You are hereby notified that the Planning Commission will hold a
special meeting on Saturday, December 5, 1992 beginning at 9:30
a.m. The purpose of the meeting is to take a walking tour of a
future subdivision site which consists of approximately 160 acres
of vacant land located south of Prior Lake Middle School and
Senior High.
Anyone interested in participating in the tour should contact the
Prior Lake Planning Department in order that transportation to
the site can be arranged The meeting will begin at 9:30 a.m. at
the south entrance of Prior Lake City Hall located at 4629 Dakota
Street S.E.
If you desire to participate in the walking tour or have
questions regarding this matter, contact the Prior Lake Planning
Departmen at 447 -4230.
Deb Garross
Assistant City Planner
To be published in the Prior Lake American on Monday, November
30, 1992.
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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
AGENDA
DECEMBER 17, 1992
7:30
P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
7:30
P.M.
REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS
MEETING
7:30
P.M.
HEARING VARIANCE
COUNTY MARKET
7:45
P.M.
HEARING VARIANCE
ROCKPORT HOMES
8:00
P.M.
DISCUSS QUESTIONNAIRE
ALLEN GREENFIELD
8:30
P.M.
DISCUSS COMPREHENSIVE
ALLEN GREENFIELD
PLAN 2010
* Indicates a Public Hearing
All times stated on the Planning Commission Age,::!r- with the
exception of Public Hearings, are approximate and may start later
than the scheduled time.
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PLt.NNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
DECEMBER 17, 1992
The December 17, 1992, Planning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Chairman Roseth at 7:30 P.M. Those present were
Commissioners Loftus, Arnold, Roseth, Wuellner, Greenfield,
Director of Planning Horst Graser, Assistant City Planner Deb
Garross, and Acting Secretary Phyllis Knudsen.
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Upon review of the Dece er 3, 1992 minutes, Commissioner Loftus
motioned to make the following changes:
Page two, Paragraph 11, Line two; change word "form" to "from ".
MOTION BY LOTUS, SECONDED BY WUELLNER TO AMEND THE MINUTES AS
STATED ABOVE.
vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, Greenfield, Wuellner
and Roseth. MOTION CARRIED
ITEM II - COUNTY MARKET - VARIANCE
Ka7 IIE er, riFiregeEtative Of oy Sign Co. 6325 Welcome Ave.
No., Brooklyn Park, MN. Mr. Reiter discussed the history of
signs for County Market and Super Valu Foods. There are 30 County
Market stores in Minnesota, 27 of which use the 60" letters
proposed on the sign plan and variance application. Three stores
are located in retrofitted buildings and contain smaller signs
because the facia wouldn't allow the 60" letters. This
particular building was designed with a facia to accommodate the
4 wall signs with the dimensions as identified on the proposed
sign plan.
When the plan was first submitted it was submitted with 60"
letters with the 3x47' "Total Discount Food" sign, a
"Deli /Bakery" sign and an "Open 24 Hour" sign and the addition of
a "Taco Belle sign. The sign Ordinance permits a maximum wail
sign area of 200 square feet per sign and a total of three wall
signs for the building, which is not sufficient to accommodate
signage for County Market. An alternative would be to measure
the signs in a different manner than staff. staff measures signs
from the outer limits of the letters. It is the proposal of the
applicant to measure the area of the letters only. If this
measurement is allowed, the proposed "County Market" sign would
be 188 square feet instead of
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the staff calculation of 490 square feet. Other signs could be
combined in order to meet the square footage requirement and
result in 3 wall signs for the County Market store.
Mr. Reiter indicated the signs are already built for the Prior
Lake store and the blocking and supports to mount the letters
have been installed. Mr. Reiter passed around some photos of
other stores in Minnesota showing the signs that are typically
associated with a County Market store.
Neil Lipson, Architect with P1anMark at 140 Chatah Circle,
Chanhassen, MN. explained the architecture of the building and
that the facia was designed to accommodate the signage proposed.
The signs are necessary to be visible across the large parking
lot and produce a facia that is in scale with the entire
building. Mr. Lipson stated that he has worked with various
communities and there are different methods of measurement used
to determine sign area. some communities permit the measurement
of the letters alone, as is proposed in the application. The
Prior Lake Sign ordinance does not specify the method of
measurement. If the method proposed is used, a sign area
variance would not be necessary.
Chairman Roseth asked for the clarification as to how this box is
drawn around the letters and Mr. Lipson stated it was just
followinq area within letters,
perimeter of the letters
Leslie Novak, Attorney with Maco, Krautz and Moore, TCF Tower,
121 So. 8th St., Minneapolis, MN, represented Lee and Marilyn
Rademacher. He had the opportunity to look at the sign ordinance
and stated that based on earlier discussions and the revised
drawing, the proposed plan would fall within the most restrictive
interpretation of the sign ordinance which would permit 200
sq.ft. per sign and three wall signs for the building. The
ordinance does not specify the method of measurement therefore,
it would be reasonable o apply the measurement t echn i q ue
proposed by the app licant
ordinance can be interpreted in many different ways and that the
staff interpretation is the most restrictive. If the words are
given their fullest possible meaning, the sign plan as proposed
would conform to the ordinance.
The staff report stated that there is adequate provision for
signs because the ordinance permits one, free standing sign. The
applicant has chosen not to use a pylon sign so there may not be
adequate signage permitted by the ordinance. The 200 square foot
sign area allowed by the ordinance may present a safety problem
due to the lack of illumination close to the building front.
Furthermore, the building permit has boon approved and the
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schematics were shown on the plans. LeRoy Sign Co. has
constructed the signs and the anchors have been installed on the
building. It is the opinion of the applicant that the hardship is
created by the ordinance which does not address signage for the
size building proposed and that the signs have been constructed
according to the building plans approved by the City via the
building permit issued in August of 1992. County Market has a
total concept where the proposed signage is a crucial part of the
financial viability of the project. It has already been stated,
that the proposed sign plan is similar to 27 County Markets in
the State of Minnesota.
Another point unique to the property is that it is located
adjacent to State Hwy. 13 where the speed limit is 45 mph. The
building is set on the furthest point back on the property. The
store requires signs that people can glance at and read without
having to take their eyes off the road. If people have to take
their eyes of the road or slow down to read a sign (points to the
smaller of the sign drawings) a safety problem may result.
Deb Garross presented information as per staff memo dated
December 17, 1992. The variance to be considered is specifically
from Sign Ordinance Section 5 -7 -4, B1, 2 and 4. The specific
request is to consider two different variances. 1. The initial
application was for 4 signs. The Sign Ordinance states three
would be permitted for this building based on the number of
principle entrances to the building. 2. A size variance from the
total square footage for the County Market sign itself. The
proposed "County Market - Total Discount Foods" sign is 490
square feet in area. The maximum sign area permitted by the sign
ordinance is 200 square feet. The second variance is to consider
a 290 square foot sign area variance.
Ms. Garross stated that the ordinance does not specify the method
of measurement to be used to determine sign area however, the
practice has been to calculate sign area using the outermost
limits of the letters or sign proposed. In the County Market
case, the sign area consists of a 10 X 49 rectangle which
results in the 490 square foot area stipulated in the staff
report.
Staff has recognized for several years that the Sign Ordinance
could be amended and clarified in several sections. In 1990 and
1991 both Dave Unmacht, former City Manager and Ms. Garross held
a number of meetings with local business owners to discuss the
existing ordinance and determine areas that should be reviewed to
meet current advertising needs of the community. A draft,
prepared in 1991 was submitted to the Planning Commission as
evidence that staff has been working to clarify the sign
ordinance. Dave Unmacht was responsible for the ordinance
amendment process which was never completed, due to other
pressing issues.
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It is the responsibility of staff to interpret and administer
ordinance requirements. The interpretation applied to this
application is consistent with the administration of the sign
ordinance since its adoption in 198 3. The literal interpretation
of the code requirements as well as the method to measure signs
from the outer limits, has been applied to all sign applications
since 1983.
The sign ordinance permits three signs which can be 200 square
fee*_ each, providing 600 square feet of advertising display area
for the building. The ordinance also permits the use of a 100
square foot pylon sign. How the sign space is allocated is an
option of the applicant. In this case, the applicant has chosen
not to use the pylon sign and has in effect, restricted their own
advertising display area. It is the opinion of staff that the
ordinance permits sufficient sign display area and that the
applicant has not demonstrated hardship, other than economic and
convenience, to justify the variance requested.
There have been statements made that the signs have already been
ordered and the building has been set up for this particular
sign. A memo from former City Manager, Dave Unmacht dated August
3, 1992 stated the following: "I talked to Dave Chromey on July
30th. I informed him that the proposed plan is greater than the
ordinance allows. He informed me that the signs have not been
built or ordered. I suggested we evaluate his plan and consider
our options in the near future and he agreed. I will tell the
same to Lyle Fuller on 8 -10 -92 when he returns from vacation."
The actual building permit for County Market was issued on
8- 24 -92. The applicant was made aware prior to issuance of the
building permit, that the aign plan did not conform to the sign
ordinance. Any hardship related to ordering the signs and
installation of supports is the result of actions of the
applicant who was informed in July, that the signs would not meet
ordinance requirements.
The existing sign ordinance has been in effect for approximately
10 years. Since that time, three variance applications have been
filed for signs. 1. Amoco redevelopment requested a variance to
allow a taller sign than the 20' het9ht permitted for a free
standing sign. The variance was denied. 2. A variance was
requested and approved for O'Malleys on Main for a sign extending
above the roof line. In that case O'Malleys had a very unique
building which had a small back room with an overhang. The
variance was approved for a sign to be located above the roof
line. 3. E7. -STOP or CROWN COCO changed its sign without a
permit, they later came in and requested a set back variance for
a pylon sign and also a square footage deviation. Both the
Planning Commission and City Council denied that application
based on lack of hardship. The City is
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currently undergoing litigation with Crown Coco. The aw suit
with Crown Coco is one of the primary reasons staff is concerned
with the possible precedent that this variance could have. There
have only been three previous applications for variance from the
sign ordinance, therefore creating precedent is of utmost concern
to staff.
As stated in the staff report, it is up to the applicant to prove
hardship and in this case, there is no hardship according to the
zoning code and sign ordinance. The ordinance permits options
for the applicant to utilize up to three, 20C sq. ft. wall signs
and one, 100 sq. ft. shopping center sign. Staff is of the
opinion that the ordinance allows adequate advertising display
area for County Market.
If County Market believes the ordinance does not address their
situation, the proper procedure would be to apply for an
amendment to the sign ordinance. It is possible that the
amendment would be prudent to review since larger buildings will
also likely be built in the new business park. Staff is of the
opinion that it is dangerous to take one situation in terms of a
variance application and create a precedent based on that
application. Staff would feel much more at ease involving a
public hearing process where the public would be invited to share
input into an ordinance amendment. In that manner, a new
standard could be adopted that would apply to buildings of the
size of the County Market store.
Chairman Roseth asked if this application, either approved or
denied, then goes to Council.
Ms.Garross replied that the Planning Commission has the authority
to approve variances. However, the decision of the Planning
Commission can be appealed, by anyone, to the City Council. If
there is an appeal, the Council would make the final decision on
the variance application.
Chairman Roseth recognized members of the audience who wished to
speak on the issue.
Leslie Novak, Attorney reiterated his points relative to the
interpretation of several sections of the sign ordinance.
Craig Tupy, 3892 Marsh St. Prior Lake commented that the City
should work with new business and welcome them to the community
instead of leaving them frustrated with processes such as the
sign ordinance. He stated that several potential businesses have
decided not to locate in Prior Lake due to the City's reaction to
development proposals His opinion is that the County Market
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sign (larger drawing) s aesthetically more pleasing, and based
on the fact that they will employ 100+ people, the City should
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welcome business, not put them through this type of frustration.
Mr. Tupy stated further that Prior Lake is growing and should
face facts and welcome bigger businesses that will help the
community.
Chairman Roseth closed this portion of the meeting.
Comments from Commissioner Greenfield were from the generalized
comments Mr. Tupy made regarding developers and business people
having trouble with the City of Prior Lake.
Comments from Commissioner Greenfield regarding the Sign
Ordinance are attached after page 8 of the minutes. (Exhibit A)
Commissioner Arnold noted his feelings on the size of the sign on
the staff proposal as being a safety hazard and not very
appropriate. Deb Garross pointed out that the sign is only one
200 sq.ft. sign and County Market is allowed three of those
signs. He continued stating the hardship appeared to be due t„
actions of the applicant and based on variances being set for
future applications, he could not support a variance request.
commissioner Loftus agreed that the Sign 2-din„nce should be
reviewed and made other comments concerning the need to help this
business open with an appropriate sign without setting a variance
precedent.
Commissioner Wuellner questioned the calculations based on the
term "retail space" because the ordinance is based upon floor
space. He also stated that he did not agree witI, the staff
interpretation of the sign area permitted for the building.
ordinance does not state allowed footage is based on retail
space, it says floor space. Ms.Garross clarified that floor space
is commonly used by other communities to calculate advertising
display area. The floor area was used to demonstrate that the
Prior Lake ordinance is not overly restrictive compared to the
community sign ordinance surveyed. Staff handed out a copy of
community sign calculations for 17 cities surveyed.
commissioner Roseth recommended to Mr. Rademacher, since he
indicated that a sign is needed right now, that he accept the
drawing with the three signs and drop the small sign on the
building at least for the time being. The suggestion was made to
utilize the freestanding sign that is permitted by the ordinance
for display of some of the signage that would not be permitted on
the building front. Mr. Roseth also requested that a
representative from County Market work with the City during the
sign ordinance amendment process.
Mr. Les Novak stated that the most prudent thing would be for the
Rademacher's to withdraw the request for a variance and submit
the application for the three signs as discussed. Mr. Novak
withdrew the application at the request of the applicant.
Commissioners called for a five minute recess.
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commissioner Roseth reconvened the meeting with Commissioner
Greenfield requesting to make a statement relating to the County
Market hearing. However due to lateness of the hour he would
make his comments at the foot of the agenda.
ITEM III - ROCKPORT HOMES - VARIANCE
Dennis McGraw, representative of Rockport Homes, Inc. 4833 W.
123rd St., Savage, MN. The request is to construct a new single
family home on Lot 32 of Boudin's Manor also known as 14419
Watersedge Trail.
In applying for Building Permit, Gary Staber Building Inspector
stated that what was submitted met all the criteria except for
the lot which was "sub standard ". The variance requested is for a
3,036 sq.ft. minimum lot area variance. All other setbacks were
in compliance with the ordinance.
Ms. Garross stated that since this Subdivision was part of an
annexation to Prior Lake it was platted by another governmental
body. The applicant has designed a home that would fit on the
lot and would not require any other setbacks or variances other
than the lot size.
Since this subdivision was approved in the 1950 the zoning and
subdivision standards have changed over time. The existing lot of
record cannot meet current zoning ordinance requirements and
therefore the hardship is evident. Hardship is also evident in
that the lot would not be buildable if the variance were not
granted. The Zoning Code does provide a Section which states
that lots of record before Mayy, 1973 are considered buildable,
however they are subject to variance review of the Planning
Commission and possibly City Council to mitigate negative impacts
of development. The Planning Commission generally reviews
drainage and setback issues. In this particular case, those
variances are not being requested. Staff feels that the home
can be built on the lot as proposed. Pat Lynch of the DHR was
contacted on this issue and he has no objection to the proposal
as submitted.
Gordy Prochaska owner of the adjacent home located at 14425
Watersedge Trail stated that he would like to see a house built
on that lot rather than the weeds and cockleburrs that were there
this year. His house was built on a slab and he has had no
problems with it. A house would make the area look better and he
would be in favor of granting this variance, as long as the soil
tests are done.
Chairman Roseth closed this portion of the meeting.
Comments from the Commissioners were commendations to the
applicant, who came up with a design that required no setback
variances, and they welcomed the new neighbor to Prior Lake.
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MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECONDED BY ARNOLD, TO GRANT THE 3,036 SQUARE
FOOT MINIMUM LOT AREA VARIANCE FOR 14419 WATERSEDGE TRAIL.
RATIONAL BEING THAT THE HARDSHIP IS CAUSED BY THE APPLICATION OF
CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS TO A LOT WHICH WAS SUBDIVIDED IN 1950.
THE HARDSHIP WAS NOT THE RESULT OF ACTIONS BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THE PROPOSED PLAN MEETS THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT
DOES NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SETBACK VARIANCES.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, Roseth, Wuellner,
and Greenfield. MOTION CARRIED.
Chairman Roseth reopened the Sign Ordinance portion of the
meeting as previously requested by Commissioner Greenfield.
MOTION BY GREENFIELD, SECONDED BY ARNOLD, THAT THE PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INSTRUCT STAFF OR HIRE
AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT TO FINALIZE THE DRAFT OF A REVISED SIGN
ORDINANCE AND PREPARE A FINAL DOCUMENT FOR THE HEARING PROCESS.
vote taken signified ayes by Greenfield, Arnold, Loftus, Roseth,
and Wuellner. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM V - COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2010 - DISCUSSION
chairman Roseth read into the record the motion as passed by the
Planning Commissioners on December 3, 1992, asking the City
Council for special funding to comply with this motion in the
annual amount of $4,000.00. These funds will be allocated for
the Citywide questionnaire, public invitations, funds in
perpetuity and miscellaneous expenses.
Discussion followed as to the content of the questionnaire.
Staff was instructed to contact communities to obtain copies of
citizen surveys.
Horst Graser gave a brief overview of the historical development
of Prior Lake as a prelude to the introduction of the draft 2010
Comprehensive Plan to the Planning Commission.
NOTION BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY WUELLNER TO ,ADJOURN THE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Wuellner, Greenfield,
Loftus, and Roseth. MOTION CARRIED. Meeting closed at 11:58
P.M. Tapes of the meeting are on file at City Nall.
city Planner Acting Recording Secretary
Horst Graser Phyllis Knudsen
Exhibit A
- 11, Planning Commission
i'rom: Commissioner Greenfield
subj"t Prior I Ac Sign Ordinance
it is personally disappointing that we commissioners are scheduled to meet and conduct a hearing
to consider a variance when the petitioner has not demonstrated in the application from the literal
provisions of Chapter 7 where their strict enforcement would cause an undue hardship.
(Reference Zoning Regulation 5- 7 -11). I am however, personalty concerned with the outdated
ineffective and unenforced regulations currently in place in our City Codes. Our Codes surely
require updating, and at that time, this issue of signage requested by the proprietors of a structure
of this size and magnitude can be addressed.
This request most appropriately belongs in the amendment process as outlined in Zoning
Ordinance 7.9 Amendments and not in 7.6 par. C Standards dealing in variances. I personally
sympathize with your predicament, but I understand that you were aware of our sign ordinances
back in late July. (Reference copy of letter). At that time, a request for consideration of sign
amendment would have been most prudent. Any efforts to modify sign size and placement at this
time surely demonstrates undue hardship, but directly a result of your own doing.
In reference to the issues at hand, the commission should recommend to council to act on this
issue. I understand that staff has diligently worked on a draft of a revised sign ordinance.
Perhaps, this would be an opportune time for our commission to recommend that council redirects
staff to finalize this in a format for review in the hearing process, and include a paragraph that
would address sign area that would be appropriate to a building of this size. I will introduce a
motion at the conclusion of this hearing on this issue.
In closing, any consideration for sign variance with regard to this application, having shown no
cause or justification with regard to undue hardship would be ill advised, establish inappropriate
precedence and is contrary to section (B) in our appeals process. This issue clearly falls within the
Amendment process found in our Zoning Ordinance 7.9, as there are no provisions in our sign
regulations regarding this appeal.
Motion by Commissioner Greenfield at meeting on December 17, 1992:
1 move the Planning Commission recommend that the City Council Instruct staff, or hire an
independent consultant, to finalize the draft of a revised sign ordinance, and prepare this
final document for the hearing process.