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1891 1991
7:30 P.M.
CALL 10 OimER
7:30 P.M.
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* 7:30 P.M.
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8:00 P.M.
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* Indicates a Public Bearing
All times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the exception of Public
Bearings, are approximate and may start later than the scheduled time.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
NOVEMBER 5, 1992
The November 5, 1992, Planning Comm:
order by Chairman Roseth. at 7 ::
commissioners Loftus, Arnold,.; Roset]
Garross, Associate Planner Sam'Lucai
Commissioners Wuellner and Greenfie:
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS,'.
WRITTEN.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold
CARRIED.
Meeting was called to
[. .Those present were
stant City Planner Deb
Secretary :Rita Schewe.
absent.
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APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
, ftus, and Roseth. MOTION
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The Public Hearing was called to order at 7:31 P.M.
Will Elsner, 209 Ottawa Ave. South, Minneapolis, MN,.stated he is
representing his Mother, Bertha Beaudette of 5086 Credit River
Road. The request is for rezoning the subject property from C-1
Conservation to R -1 Urban Residential in order to divide the
property for 'resale. The subject sit is quite large and would
be difficult to sell either parcel as platted.
Sam Lucast, Associate Planner, presented the information as per
memo of November 5, 1992, The subject site is 1.3 acres with a
ravine at the rear of the property which would not be impacted by
construction. Staff believes the C -1 zoning designation reflects
the public land use of the adjacent school district property
located to the north of the site. The property characteristics
do not reflect the natural features; identified by the C -1 Zone
such as steep slopes, wetlands nor unstable soils. Rather, the
property characteristics are more reflective of the adjacent
residential zones to the east,.' west and south. The rezoning
would be a refinement of the Conservation District. The DNR'has
no objections to the rezoning. Scott County requests there be no
direct access to County Road 21. Staff recommends Approval' of
the rezoning as requested.
Comments from the Commissioners were on: removal of shed, <sewer
and water connection, and procedures on rezoning.
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MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY
COUNCIL THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING FROM C -1 CONSERVATION TO R -1
RESIDENTIAL FOR 5086 CREDIT RIVER ROAD. RATIONALE BEING IT WOULD
BE A REFINEMENT OF THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, IT WOULD CONFORM TO
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CURRENT C -1 DESIGNATION DOES NOT
REFLECT THE SITE CHARACTERISTICS.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, and Roseth. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, and Roseth. MOTION
CARRIED. The Public Hearing was closed at 7:45 P.M.
ITEM III - WAYNE MOBERG - VARIANCE
Wayne Moberg of 3114 Fairview Road S.W., stated he is requesting
• variance to build a 24 32' garage for additional storage and
• workshop. Mr. Moberg said he is disabled and needs the extra
room to open car doors to get in and out.
Sam Lucast, Associate Planner presented the information as per
memo of November 5, 1992. The variances requested are; a 5 foot
southeast front yard, 5 foot southwest side yard, 6 inch
northeast side yard, and 10% lot coverage ratio variance. The
subject site is a substandard lot of record tha, is located on a
private road. The existing nonconforming garage will be removed
and replaced with a garage more in line with current zoning
standards. In previous cases, the Planning Commission has
limited oversize garages, with this in mind, Staff recommends
denial of the 5 foot side yard, 6 inch said yard and 10% lot
coverage ratio. Staff would not object to granting a 2.5' side,
5' front yard, and 88 lot coverage variance thereby providing the
applicant with a reasonable double garage. The existing house is
768 square feet, the garage size cannot exceed the size of the
principle structure.
Comments from the Commissioners, garage size should be 24 30
tree replacement and size of garage doors.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO GRANT A 5 FOOT FRONT YARD,
3.5 SOUTHWEST SIDE YARD, UP TO 10% LOT COVERAGE RATIO, TO
CONSTRUCT A MAXIMUM SIZE, 24 X 30 FOOT GARAGE AT 3114 FAIRVIEW
ROAD S.W. RATIONALE BEING PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, LOT IS SUBSTANDARD, PROPERTY WAS SUBDIVIDED UNDER
THE JURISDICTION OF A PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT, EXISTING GARAGE TO BE
REMOVED, AND WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE
OF THE COMMUNITY.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, and Roseth. MOTION
CARRIED.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 5, 1992 PAGE 3
ITEM IV - MERLYN OLSON - LOT COVERAGE AND LAKESHORE VARIANCE
Merlyn Olson, 13355 Elaine Court, Savage, MN, stated he has
acquired the property at 15398 Red Oaks Road and wishes to remove
the existing house and garage and construct a single family home
on the site which will require lot coverage and lakeshore
variances.
Deb Garross, Assistant City Planner, presented the information as
per memo of November 5, 1992. The applicant has prepared a plan
that requires the least amount of variance. Due to the
irregular shoreline configuration of the 904 line, a 21 foot
Lakeshore variance and an 8% lot coverage ratio variance is
requested to construct the home. Setback averaging could be used
by the applicant but due to the curvature of the lake in the
vicinity of the lot would restrict the deck to 5 foot width.
Staff recommends approval of the variances requested. The lot is
a substandard lot platted under a previous government and similar
variances have been granted in the neighborhood.
Comments from the Commissioners were in consensus of approval.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS, TO APPROVE A 21 FOOT
LAKESHORE VARIANCE AND A 83 LOT COVERAGE VARIANCE FOR 15398 RED
OAKS ROAD, RATIONALE BEING THAT HARDSHIP IS NOT THE RESULT OF THE
APPLICANT OR PRIOR LAKE BUT THAT THE LOT IS A SUBSTANDARD LOT,
AND WAS PLATTED UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF A PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT,
TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LOT LIMITS THE BUILDING ENVELOP, THE VARIANCES
OBSERVE THE SPIRIT OF THE SHORELAND MANAGEMENT CHAPTER OF THE
ZONING ORDINANCE AND WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND
WELFARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, and Roseth. MOTION
CARRIED.
MOTION BY ARNOLD, SECOND BY LOFTUS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Arnold, Loftus, and Roseth. MOTION
CARRIED. Meeting closed at 8:37 P.M. Tape of meeting on file at
City Hall.
Assistant City Planner Recording Secretary
Deb Garross Rita M. Schewe
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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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November 19, 1992
7:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER
7:30 P.M. REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS
MEETING
DISCUSSION ALLEN GREENFIELD
DISCUSS 2010 COMPREHENSIVE STAFF /COMMISSION
PLAN REVIEW PROCESS
ESTABLISH DATE TO TOUR STAFF / CONMISSION
FUTURE PUD SITE FOR SIENNA
CORPORATION. (160 Acres
located south of Middle and
Senior High School)
* Indicates a Public Hearing
All times stated on the Planning Commission Agenda, with the
exception of Public Hearings, are approximate and may start later
than the scheduled time.
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NOVEMBER 19,1992
The November 19, 1992, Planning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Chairman Roseth at 7:30 P.M. Those present were
Commissioners Roseth, Arnold, Greenfield, Loftus, Director of
Planning Horst Graser, Assistant City Planner Deb Garross,
Associate Planner Sam Lucast and Secretary Rita Scheme.
Commissioner Wuellner arrived at 8:05 P.M.
ITEM I - REVIEW MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY ARNOLD, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
WRITTEN.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Arnold, and Roseth.
Commissioner Greenfield abstained as he was not present at the
previous meeting. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM II - ALLEN GREENFIELD - DISCUSSION
Commissioner Greenfield presented the following document on
duties of a commissioner and requested it be put into the minutes
verbatim. The document is as follows:
In any endeavor one struggles to find direction, definition, a
sense of purpose if you will. My appointment to this Planning
Commission has presented many new challenges. To begin with there
is much to learn. Ordinances, Comprehensive Plans, Ethics,
Codes, just to name a few. Maybe I should start with my new
position and learn all about the role of a Planning Commissioner.
SO YOU'RE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER... NOW WHAT? This is a great
manual. I prove a me w e needed sense of purpose. On pa e
5 it states, "The first responsibility of the public planner is
to the public, present and future." So I charge out the gate...
I'm ready to serve the public! This is getting really exciting.
Reading further, I discovered a single body of law, with powers
and a uniform procedure for conducting and implementing
municipal... Municipal Planning: Legislation in Minnesota (M.P.).
This, as it turns out, is the source document for our City
Government. The "do's and don'ts ", the "cans and cants ", if you
will.
Well, what about our City Government. Referring to the Bylaws of
the City Council in Chapter 3, I began to read all about us. In
Section 1 Paragraph 2 -3 -4: DUTIES OF COMMISSION: The duties of
said Planning Advisory Commission is as follows:
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(A) To acquire and maintain in current form such basic
information and background data that is necessary to an
understanding of past trends, present conditions and forces at
work to cause changes in these conditions.
(C) To establish principals and policies for guiding action
affecting development in the City and its environs.
How can this happen? How can the Planning Commission plan for
our community and not have current information regarding the
past and present trends? How can we render our recommendation to
the upcoming Prior Lake 2010 Comprehensive Plan without first
determining what our peoples needs are for the future? Here lies
the greatest challenge for our most immediate future!
Mr. Chairman, this commission has a responsibility as an
appointed advisory body of citizen representatives (M.P.
462.354). We must comply with paragraph (A) and (C) of our City
Planning By -Laws. It is imperative that we proceed with open
discussion to formulate necessary date certain actions, staff
recommendations and proposals to ensure the completion and
creation of a collective document to fulfill the needs of this
by -law. Please reference attachment (a) for suggested
recommendations.
If we fail to perform as required under the by -laws of the office
we occupy, the Planning Commissioners stand before Council,
Staff, and above all, the Citizens of Prior Lake, ill prepared to
undertake the task of planners. To quote from Fred H. Bair, Jr.,
a planning consultant, "The planner must plead (for the
unborn) cause, for them and it isn't easy".
ATTACHMENT (a)
Planning Guide Proposal:
(1) Establish a date certain compliance of no more than 120 days,
with monthly progress review.
(2) Each Commissioner compose a one page letter expressing
detailed specific qualitative and quantitative statements 6
minimum points, of their vision and goals for the future of Prior
Lake. The contents of these letters shall be sealed for the
entire review process and opened at the end and used as both a
contributing as well as a learning tool for the commission.
(3) Request and compile from staff applicable documents and
information pertinent to (A) from Comprehensive Plan 2010 source
data.
(4) Request and compile from staff any applicable data and
information pertinent to (A) from Prior Lake 2000 report.
(5) Announce and conduct a public hearing and /or workshop to
address and gather information pertinent to (A).
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 19, 1992 PAGE 3
(6) Establish this planning guide and review biannually in order
to comply with (A) and (E) To keep the City Council and the
general public informed and advised as to all planning
development matters, and make recommendations for future changes
to the Comprehensive Plan as appropriate.
(7) Conduct a biannual public hearing and survey to revise or
update any changes applicable to (A).
(8) Each Commissioner shall research and present any pertinent
information from public newspapers, public forums /workshops or
publications indicating changing trends or conditions.
(9) Establish and review, zoning and planning changes of local
communities (to include: Belle Plains, Chanhassen, Chaska, Eden
Prairie, Lakeville, New Prague, Shakopee, Savage) and identify
factors and reasons for changes and how they would apply to our
present trends and future plans.
See attachment (b) for draft proposal of City Code 2 -3 -4.
ATTACHMENT (b)
2 -3 -4: DUTIES OF COMMISSION: The duties of said Planning
Advisory Commission are as follows:
(A) To acquire and maintain in current form such basic
information and background data that is necessary to an
understanding of past trends, present conditions and forces
at work to cause changes in these conditions. This document
shall be called Prior Lake Community Planning Guide (Year
Published). Information shall be collected from the
following sources.
(1) Public hearing conducted biannually on the first month of
the calendar year.
(2) Public survey conducted biannually on the second month of
the calendar pear.
(3) On a continuing basis the Commission shall research and
present any information from public newspapers, public
forums /workshops or publications indicating changing trends
or conditions.
(4) Zoning and planning changes of local communities (to
include: Belle Plains, Chanhassen, Chaska, Eden Prairie,
Lakeville, New Prague, Shakopee, Savage) and identify factors
and reasons for changes and how they apply to our community.
This guide shall be updated on the sixth month of the
calendar year. The Planning Commission shall make
recommendation to the Council, the adoption and amendment to
the comprehensive municipal plan as appropriate from changes
identified in the Prior Lake Community Planning (M.P. 462.355
subd.2)
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 19, 1992 PAGE 4
Carl Hanson, 4065 Raspberry Ridge Road, commented on the lack of
public participation but felt public hearings should be held
anyway.
Janice Hanson, 4065 Raspberry Ridge Road, stated they are
representing The Citizen's Forum Group and are in support of
Commissioner Greenfield's proposal.
A heated discussion followed by the Commissioners on the pros and
cons of Commissioner Greenfield's proposal. Consensus from the
Commissioners was to publish the Planning Commission agenda in
the Prior Lake American paper.
This item was placed at the foot of the agenda for further
discussion.
ITEM II - DISCUSSION ON COMPREHENSIVE 2010 PLAN REVIEW - STAFF
Deb Garross, Assistant City Planner, gave an overview on the
Prior Lake Comprehensive 2010 Plan and the procedure needed to
present the document to the community. Workshops need to be
scheduled for dissemination of information. A great deal of time
and effort went into the preparation of this document.
commissioner Greenfield stated he felt frustration with the
system and wanted the Commissioners to become more pro- active and
not be funnel fed by Staff. He would like each Commissioner to
write an outline on the issues facing Prior Lake. Commissioner
Greenfield felt the reason the public is apathetic is due to lack
of leadership. He feels the Commissioners do not have to go the
the City Council and receive marching orders but are a body of
individuals that can make recommendations to the City Council.
Chairman Roseth stated he would like the Commissioners to write
an outline on what they would like to see in the Comprehensive
Plan.
Mr. Graser reminded the Commissioners that the current draft is a
result of the meetings and workshops that were held with the
Planning Commission /City Council /and the Economic Development
Committee at 1990, 1991, and 1992 Retreat Sessions.
MOTION BY GREENFIELD, Sj'COND BY ARNOLD, THAT THE COMMISSION
COMPLY WITH SECTION 1 PARAGRAPH 2 -3 -4: DUTIES OF COMMISSION: THE
DUTIES OF SAID PLANNING ADVISORY COMMISSION IS A FOLLOWS: TO
ACQUIRE AND MAINTAIN IN CURRENT FORM SUCH BASIC INFORMATION AND
BACKGROUND DATA THAT IS NECESSARY TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF PAST
TRENDS, PRESENT CONDITIONS AND FORCES AT WORK TO CAUSE CHANGES IN
THESE CONDITIONS. TO INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CONTENTS OF
ATTACHMENT (A) AND (B) AND OVER THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS DEVISE
STEPS TO FULFILL OUR OBLIGATION AND FURTHER DEVISE THE NECESSARY
STEPS TO PROCEED WITH AN ORGANIZED DISCUSSION OF THE 2010
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
Vote taken signified ayes by Greenfield, Arnold, Loftus, Roseth,
and Wuellner. MOTION CARRIED.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 19, 1992 PAGE 5
ITEM III - ESTABLISH DATE TO TOUR PUD SITE FOR SIENNA CORPORATION
After discussion the date set was December 5, 1992, at 9:30 A.M.
to tour the Sienna property.
MOTION BY LOFTUS, SECOND BY GREENFIELD, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
Vote taken signified ayes by Loftus, Greenfield, Roseth, Arnold,
and Wuellner. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 10:15 P.M. Tapes of meeting on file at City
Hall.
Director of Planning Recording Secretary
Horst Graser Rita M. Schewe