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PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
MONDAY, JUNE 8, 1992
COMMUNITY ROOM, CITY HALL - 7:00-9:00 P.M.
1. Call to order
2. Minutes from meeting of 4/l3/92 and 5/11/92
3. Staff Reports
A. Director of Parks and Recreation
1. Registration summary
2. Summer department schedule
3. Development proposal for golf course
4. New Business
A. Follow up on presentation by Ed Dressen-Shakopee Boy
Scouts
B. Discuss final park dedication for Carriage Hills
C. Present information update on Souix Community
activities
5. Old Business
A. Trail status update for Franklin Trail
6. Set next meeting date
A. Next scheduled meeting would be Monday, July 13,
1992.
7. Adjourn the meeting
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PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
APRIL 13, 1992
The Parks Advisory Committee meeting was called to order by
Vice-chair, Pat Heaney at 7:12 p.m. on Monday, March 13, 1992.
Those present were Tony Anderson, Ron ceminskr, Pat Heaney, Art
Schoot, Kathy Smith, and Bill Mangan, D1rector of Parks and
Recreation. Members not present were Kathe Abrams and Doug
Berens.
The minutes from the March 9, 1992 meeting were reviewed.
TONY ANDERSON MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. RON CEMINSKY
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
Bill Mangan reviewed the McDonald Grant application with the
Committee. The application has been approved by the Parks
Advisory Committee and the recommendation will be presented to
the Council on April 20, 1992. with the approval from the
Council, Bill will be completing two forms: one that deals with
the historical society and an environmental assessment statement.
General discussion of this property continued.
Bill Mangan informed the committee of the vandalism at Sand Point
Beach. The new fireplace in Pavilion #2 was almost destroyed by
kids. A stainless steel liner is going to be installed in the
chimney, the rock ledge will be rebuilt, the roof reshingled and
lights that were shot out will need to be replaced. Shelter #1
also had damage done to the tongue & groove ceiling.
Approximately $4,000 of damage has been done. A reward has been
posted at the Hidden Oaks Middle School as it is felt that the
damage was done by kids of this age group.
Bill Mangan presented three (3) sets of conceptual development
plans for the Grainwood Crossing development. Westwood Planning
& Engineering are the consultin~ planners for this project. The
three plans represent 1) min1mal development 2) more detailed
development with sculpture/landform and 3) full development with
enclosed shelter/sculpture, etc. Bill then reviewed the three
conceptual plans located at Quincy Street & County Road 21 in
more detail. This park is designed to be used in conjunction
with the trail system with emphasis on historical and geographic
significance. There are no dollars to use for development at
this time: however, he is seeking some direction. Felt that this
would be a good opportunity to involve the Indian community in
the historical significance. The Committee were in agreement
that the Indian culture should be recognized.
It was also suggested that the shape of the building could be in
the shape of a railroad depot to signify that historical point.
Tony Anderson asked if the shrubs and plants would come from the
City's nursery. Bill Mangan indicated that most of them would.
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Restrooms are included on all three plans. None of the plans
include a fishing pier. Estimated costs would be approximately
$25,000 (Option 1) $50,000 (Option 2) & 75,000 (Option 3).
Art Schoot felt that the last two options seem to be quite
involved and that Option 1 is nice except that it doesn't seem to
include any historical significance.
Some discussion followed regarding the funding for this project.
The VFW was mentioned: as well as the sioux Indians.
In accordance with the
property would have to
Development, of course,
suggested the planting of
grant guidelines, acquisition of this
be made within three (3) years.
could start at any time. Bill Mangan
grass would help clean up the area.
Art Schoot suggested that the Committee get together and look at
the property: however, with the bridge construction, it is
difficult to get near the property.
Bill Mangan indicated that development plans for Centennial
Plaza, Heritage Park, development along cty Road 21 (The Pond)
which will include a fountain and couple of benches, and the
McDonald parcel will be heard at the April 20 council meeting.
At this meeting, we will find out if contingencr funds can be
allocated for these projects and what type of t1meframe they are
looking at. About 400 bricks out of the 850 spots have been
ordered for Centennial Plaza and 100 brick out of the 700 spots
have been ordered for Heritage Park. The Centennial Committee
has allocated $7,500 towards this project.
Bill encouraged the Parks Committee members to be present at the
April 20 city council meeting.
Pat Heaney then introduced the next item of discussion being the
Adopt-A-Park participation by the Girl Scouts.
Bill Mangan stated that the Girl Scouts have adopted Oakland
Beach, Raspberry Ridge, Sunset Hills, Willows, Fish Point and
Boudins parks. The group collected aluminum cans and with that
money they will purchase trees. Buckingham Disposal matched tree
for tree and because of that, the troups have six (6) trees at
willows and six (6) trees at Sunset Hills to plant. The Parks
Department will provide flats of flowers and shrubbery that will
go around the park signs: the troups will take care of the
watering and weeding throughout the summer. Three of the Girl
Scout troups will plant trees: the other three didn't do any
fundraising so they will plant flowers and keep the parks clean.
Pat Heaney hoped that they would get some publicity through the
newspaper.
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The City will be having a kick-off for the Girl Scouts by
cOmbining it with Arbor Day on Friday, April 24 from 5:00-7:00
p.m. at City Hall. Bill Mangan plans to grill some hotdogs and
serve between 5:30 & 6:00 p.m. The mayor will read the resolution
at 6:00 followed by a tree planting around the pond area.
Jim Riccioli from the Prior Lake American will be here for the
celebration. Parks Advisory Committee is invited to attend.
Kathy Smith presented some new business. The Boy Scouts used a
log cabin building in Shakopee for an overnight leadership
training session and felt that a building such as this would be
good to build in our city, especially since we are in need of
meeting places. There were at least four major groups that
donated to the construction of this and then donated it back to
the City of Shakopee and was dedicated to the youth of Shakopee.
The building is a nice size, but simple, has a large fireplace,
fully equipped with a kitchen, and Kathy assumed it was heated.
Mike Nordmeyer could get the pertinent information as to who
donated what, the costs, etc. and present this, or have someone
from Shakopee present this to the Parks Advisory Committee to see
if this is something that this committee could act upon.
Lakefront Park would be an ideal location for a building such as
this. The space is available and it would be a natural setting.
Kathy will make the necessary arrangements to have someone
present at the May meeting.
Pat Heaney voiced some concern about vandalism. Some discussion
followed.
Pat Heaney then introduced Old Business - The results of the
Trail Survey as administered by Art Schoot.
Art distributed a Final Report to the members present for their
review. This report is an example of what would be sent to those
participants in the survey that requested a copy. There were
about 105 responses out of 149 sent. The surveys came from all
over the five-state area. 83 communities that responded have
fairly extensive trails. The Executive Summary in this report
are the highlights of the survey. The only confusing area was how
the use of trails was answered (access, fitness, nature and
other). Art then reviewed the research findings as listed in the
report. A graph depicts the summary data from the first six
questions on the survey: trails, inter-system, arteries, patrol,
striped, and lighted. Another graph showed funding sources, and
it appears that the majority of trail development was done with
General Fund and Grant money. Referendums have not been used
much. Another graph showed the relationship between litter,
vandalism, theft, pets, noise, accidents, trespassing, behavior,
aesthetics, and property values. Aesthetics, pet problems and
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noise received the "significantlf Worse" ratings. Vandalism,
theft, trespassing, and accidents d1dn't receive much mention.
Overall, Art felt that pet areas are the greatest problem and
that as trails go through the county, people will choose to move
away from it and people who want to take advantage of it will
move in; however, generally, the trail areas were much more
positive than negative.
Art Schoot suggested that flyers or some type of publication
should be done regarding the positive feedback from other
communities that already have trail systems.
Bill Man~an felt that this survey will be a helpful source of
informat1on in regards to Prior Lake's trail development.
Ron ceminsky questioned the additional $7,500.00 cost for the
trail alon~ Franklin Trail trail as to why the trail needs to go
through an 1ndividuals driveway.
Bill Mangan stated that with a five foot concrete sidewalk, the
sidewalk needs to kept at the same elevation and because of
aesthetics, the sidewalk needs to be continuous, which results in
the cutting of the driveway, putting the sidewalk in, and
bringing fill and asphalt in on both sides of the concrete
sidewalk. This is the recommended design and construction.
The next meeting date was set for Monday, May 11, 1992.
KATHY SMITH MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
ART SCHOOT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Bill Mangan
Director of Parks & Recreation Department
Nancy McGill
Recording Secretary
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PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
MAY 11, 1992
The Parks Advisory Committee meeting was called to order by
Chairman, Doug Berens at 7:29 p.m. on Monday, May 11, 1992.
Those present were Doug Berens, Ron Ceminsky, Pat Heaney, Kathy
Smith, Bill Mangan, Director of Parks and Recreation, and Ed
Dressen, a representative of youth groups in Shakopee. Kathe
Abrams, Tony Anderson and Art Schoot were absent.
The minutes will be reviewed at the next meeting.
Doug Berens called for the staff reports. Bill Mangan reported
that the Arbor Day celebration scheduled for Friday, April 24th
with the Girl Scouts was cancelled due to inclement weather. This
will be rescheduled sometime towards the end of May. Earth Day
was celebrated on May 1st at Westwood. This is the third year of
such a celebration and a total of lOO trees have been planted at
Westwood. Five Hawks celebrated Arbor Day/Earth Day on April
21st. Each classroom had a tree to plant.
Bill Mangan reviewed the summer department schedule. On Ma~ 1st
a men's league officially started the summer season off w1th a
softball tournament at the Ponds. The soccer program started
mid-April and will continue through the first of July. Softball
and baseball programs have started and will continue through the
middle of August.
Bill Mangan indicated that the summer playground program will
present a challenge due to the new non-resident policr.
Approximately 300 kids are anticipated to participate in th1s
program this summer. Staff have been hired to fill the positions
of summer playground leaders, concessions, and beach attendants.
The beach at Sand Point will be open Memorial Day but won't have
full staff until the following week-end.
Doug Berens then asked for New Business: to discuss trail plans
for Franklin Trail. Trail plans and specifications have been
completed and will go to the council on Monday, May 18th. The
plan is to concrete Franklin Trail from Highway 13 South, north
to County Road 44 with a cost of $62,500. Trail from county Road
44 north to Highwa~ 13 will be bid as as an alternate with a cost
of $11,000. The l1nk from Main Avenue to Lake front Park and
other park trail work needs to be completed under the $75,000
funds allocated. A July 6th bid opening is scheduled for
Franklin Trail with construction to begin August 1st and
completion by the end of August. The trail link from Lakefront
to County Road 21 will cost $5,500 to complete. Trails along
Oakland Beach and Fish Point Park also have projects to be
completed. If all of Franklin Trail, the extension from the
parks shop up to Dakota Street and the various ~ark trails as
mentioned would cost approximately $88,500. We w1l1 present this
figure to the Council. They have already committed to $75,000.
Some discussion followed.
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Ed Dressen, a representative from the Boy Scout's and other youth
groups from Shakopee, addressed the ~roup with information on the
construction of a meeting building 1n Shakopee used by youth
groups at no charge to them. He explained, in detail, how this
project was handled. He indicated that many major civic
organizations were contacted for support of this pro~ect and with
the donations and help from these civic organizat1ons, various
local businesses, and many volunteers, this 42 x 65 foot log
building was constructed for a cost of $198,000.00. The project
was completed in 9 months, 10 days. This building is presently
being used by 47 youth groups, senior citizens and some groups
from outside the community. Mr. Dressen was very excited about
this project; to be involved with a concept and see it become a
reality, and felt it to be a worthwhile endeavor for our
community to pursue.
Questions followed from the Parks Advisory members. Everyone was
in agreement that this would be a great addition to our community
but would need someone to be a frontrunner for a project such as
this.
Mr. Dressen indicated that he would be happy to give the
Committee a tour of the building. He can be reached at 445-5167.
Some discussion followed.
committee give this some
meeting.
Bill Mangan stated that the Girl Scouts will be picking flowers
up from the Parks Department on Monday, May l8th to plant in the
parks at Sand Point Beach, Sunset Hills, Raspberry Ridge and
Lakefront for the Adopt-A-Park program.
Bill Mangan suggested that the
thought and bring ideas to the next
The next scheduled meeting is Monday, June 8, 1992.
PAT HEANEY MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. KATHY SMITH
SECONDED MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:02.
Bill Mangan
Director of Parks and Recreation Dept.
Nancy McGill
Recording Secretary