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PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER l4, 1992
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL - 7:00-9:00 P.M.
l. Call to order
2. Minutes from meeting of 8/10/92
3. Staff Reports
A. Director of Parks and Recreation
1. Fall registration for programs
2. Update on Community Center
4.
New Business
A. Review of
1993-1997
B. Discuss letter
Capital
Improvement
Program
for
from Committee member Tony Anderson
5. Old Business
A. McDonald grant status
B. Review trail development status
6. Set next meeting date
A. Next scheduled meeting would be Monday, October l2,
1992
7. Adjourn the meeting
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AGEN9
4629 Dakota St. S.E., Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372 / Ph. (612) 447-4230 / Fax (612) 447-4245
AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPlDYER
PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
AUGUST 10, 1992
The Parks Advisory Committee meeting was called to order by
Vice-chairman, Pat Heaney at 7:13 p.m. on Monday, August 10,
1992. Members present were Ron Ceminsky, Pat Heaney, Art Schoot,
Kathy Smith, and Bill Mangan, Director of Parks & Recreation.
Members absent were Kathe Abrams, Tony Anderson, and Doug
Berens.
ART SCHOOT MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 8,
1992 MEETING. RON CEMINSKY SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
Pat Heaney called for the staff reports. Bill Mangan highlighted
his trip to Atlanta, Georgia where he indicated that he found it
interesting that there were no city parks, trails or sidewalks.
Everything seemed to be more county governed rather than city.
The fall brochure will be out in the Prior Lake American on
August 3lst with registration be~inning on Wednesday, September
9th. We are offering more fam1ly type activities and a variety
of different programs.
Bill than gave the latest update on the community center and
indicated that no decision had been made yet. Dave Unmacht &
Larry Anderson met with the architect a couple of weeks ago. The
Indian Board will make a decision within the next 30 da~s whether
of not they will scale the project down from the orig1nal plan
and keep it mainly for the use of their employees rather than for
the community, as originally proposed.
Bill Mangan updated the committee on the new golf course, The
Wilds, a 580 acre ~roject. The developer is from Wayzata, with
the support and back1ng from some unnamed investors, and Tom
Weiskopf and Ja~ Morrish from Arizona are the designers of the
course. Bill rev1ewed the project on a site map of the l8 hole
course starting with fl at the clubhouse location and the 90lf
practice facility where golf lessons are planned to be prov1ded
to the youth of Prior Lake at no charge. Three (3) year plarer
privilege passes, allowing 40 rounds a golf per year, are be1ng
sold at $12,800. 180 out of the 250 passes were sold by July
21st. Corporate memberships (one day corporate events) are
being sold at $l20,000 for a ten year period. As of July 2lst,
approximately 18 of the 25 corporate memberships available were
sold. The charge for golf will be $70.00 per round and
eventually increased to $110.00 per round. The biggest obstacle
at this point is that the project is outside the M.U.S.A. line.
Sewer & water will be need to be put in. The Met Council has 30
days to respond and 60 days to make a decision. The development
must stay under lOOO units, otherwise, this would trigger an
environmental impact statement. 8.7 acres (including lakeshore)
will be dedicated as parkland plus an additional 3.5 acres for
hiking paths that will tie into the community wide trail system.
4629 Dakota St. S.E., Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372 / Ph. (612) 447-4230 / Fax (612) 447-4245
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Parks Advisory Committee Minutes - August lO, 1992 - Page 2
It is estimated that it will take 5-7 years to complete the
housin~. the price range of homes will be from $90,000-400,000.
This w1ll include cluster homes, town homes, multi-family, and
corporate villas. These all are planned to be done in redwood
and field stone. Tennis courts will be located near the
clubhouse.
This will be a great tax base for the City of Prior Lake.
There was some discussion about our tax base.
Pat Heaney raised some questions regarding development within the
city and the school system.
Bill Mangan indicated that everything in Prior Lake that has been
platted has been developed.
The homes in Savage that are within the Prior Lake School
district do not help the tax situation. With the development of
better homes, such as being presently developed in Prior Lake,
and with The Wilds proposal, will help both the district and the
city.
Discussion from the group proceeded.
The first item of New Business was to discuss the possibility of
changing the meeting date of the Parks Advisory meetings. Kathe
Abrams had expressed that she had conflicts on Monday evenings.
After some discussion, it was the general concensus that Monday
evenings still worked best for the majority of the members
schedules.
The second item of discussion under New Business was the final
bid proposal for the sidewalk on Franklin Trail.
Kathy Smith asked why the sidewalk has been installed on the
opposite side of the street from the original proposal and
extending to Highway 13 when she thought it had been decided to
stop the sidewalk at the Super Value entrance.
Bill Man~an stated that there were two reasons for this. The
first be1n9 that the alternate bid from County Road 44 to Highway
13 came 1n well below the engineers estimates. Therefore, this
was an engineers recommendation. The second reason being that
the Park Nicollet Clinic and the Metropolitan Bank was not
interested in giving the city an easement for a sidewalk. The
Council approved it.
At this point, the bulk of the sidewalk on Franklin Trail is in.
Art Schoot asked if we have received any comments from the
residents along Franklin Trail.
Bill Mangan indicated that he has heard negative comments from
only one resident; otherwise, has had many good and positive
comments from the public.
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Parks Advisory Committee Minutes - August lO, 1992 - Page 3
The next item of New Business was to discuss the letter from City
Mana~er, Dave Unmacht, concernin9 the Parks Advisory Committee
apPo1ntment terms. This comm1ttee's terms will all expire in
October, 1992. Bill Mangan urged the committee to send a written
res~onse to Dave Unmacht as to what their feelings were to
lim1ting terms and/or not limitin~ terms in order for him to make
recommendations to the City Counc1l.
There was some discussion from the group. Bill Mangan indicated
that the very minimum term would be two (2) years and off-setting
could be a three (3) year term.
First item for discussion under Old Business was the McDonald
~rant status. The appeal that was made to the historical society
1n regards to the reconnaisance level survey has not yet been
decided upon. Once this is approved, final grant approval will
be given from the state.
Pat Heaney asked Bill to clarify what reconnaisance level meant.
Bill Mangan indicated that this meant that the Minnesota
Historical Society sends out a list of l5 contractors that will
do a reconnaisance historical survey on the property to determine
if there's any historical significance. The cost of this would
be between S2,000-3,500. He appealed this because the railroad
trestle was all filled in by the railroad and the lot had been a
residential, sin~le-family home built in 1965, burned down, roads
excavated and f111 brought back in 1980: therefore felt there is
no historical value and did not want to spend the money for a
contractor to say the same.
Art Schoot asked about the preliminary plans that were shown and
discussed some from an earlier Parks Advisory meeting.
Bill Mangan said that they were drawn u~ at the
coucilmember, John Fitzgerald, to give him an 1dea of
of development might be done with this area; only
plans at this time.
The Lakefront Day parade was nice. There were mixed comments on
it being one day; however, most seemed to feel this worked out
good. 1993 Lakefront Day will probably be held on Sunday and
will remain a one-day event.
request of
what kind
conceptual
Kathy Smith commented that because of the lack of regulation size
soccer fields in Prior Lake, teams were unable to have the
district tournament in Prior Lake. Felt that revenue could be
brought into Prior Lake if we were able to have these tournaments
here.
There was some discussion.
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Bill Mangan said that he is in the process of tryin~ to find 20
acres to purchase for youth athletics. The L10ns Club will
donate $125,000.
Pat Heaney stated that he felt that Lakefront Park would be the
ideal location for all the soccer fields; solely for soccer
usage.
Bill said that this was not the priority, based upon the survey
results, but this is something that could be recommended to the
Council if we could get enough youth athletic fields in other
locations.
The next meeting date is set for Monday, September l4, 1992.
KATHY SMITH MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
SECONDED THE MOTION.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
ART SCHOOT
Bill Mangan
Director of Parks & Recreation Department
Nancy McGill
Recording Secretary
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