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*PLEASE REVIEW FOR MEETING OF 2/10/92*
PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 1992
COMMUNITY ROOM, CITY HALL - 7:00-9:00 P.M.
1. Call to order
2. Minutes from meeting of ll/2S/91
3. Staff Reports
A. Director of Parks and Recreation
1. Status of Grant Application
2. Update on Skating rink season
4. New Business
A. Election of Chair and Vice-Chair for 1992
B. Adoption of meeting schedule for 1992
5. Old Business
A. Year-in-Review. Review of accomplishments of PAC
for 1991 based on established goals. Enclosed is a
copy of tasks as accomplished by the PAC.
6. Set next meeting date
A. Next scheduled meeting would be Monday, March 9,
1992.
7. Adjourn the meeting
**PLEASE---CALL TO CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE!!**
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TO:
FROM:
RE:
DATE:
Parks Advisory Committee
Bill Mangan, Director of Parks and Recreation
ESTABLISH MEETING DATES FOR 1992
January 13, 1992
Based on the By-Laws of the Parks Advisory Committee, the
monthly meetings are to be conducted on the second Monday of each
month. I have taken the liberty to list the dates for the
meetings for 1992 and they are as follows:
January 13
February 10
March 9
April 13
May 11
June 8
July 13
August 10
September 14
October 13*
November 9
December 14
*Columbus Day Holiday.
Meeting moved to Tuesday.
Please mark these dates on your schedule to try to eliminate
as many schedule conflicts as possible. It should be an exciting
year in the Parks and Recreation Department! I look forward to a
year of development of trails and other improvements.
Thank you for your efforts on the Parks Advisory Committee.
4629 Dakota St. S.E., Prior Lake, Minnesota 55372 / Ph. (612) 447-4230 / Fax (612) 447-4245
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H I G H L I G H T S
The Prior Lake Parks Advisory Committee did, indeed, have a
very productive year in 1991. The accomplishments of the
Committee are as listed below, however, one of the most
significant was the initiation of the Citywide Trail System by
completing the trail segment in Lakefront Park. Lakefront Park
can now be accessed via C.R. 21, C.R. 44, and Main Avenue. Some
of the highlights for 1991 include the following:
1. Adoption of the Bylaws for Parks Advisory Committee.
2. Initiated the "MEETING-IN-THE-PARK" Program.
3. Celebrated Prior Lake receiving TREE CITY, USA status in
1990.
4. Conducted a joint park tour with Prior Lake City Council.
5. Reviewed and recommended approval for the Citywide Trail
Conceptual Plan.
6. Recommended to the City Council to proceed with
construction of trails for Lakefront Park and Franklin
Trail.
7. Reviewed and recommended approval for the Parks and
Recreation Department 5 year Capital Improvement Program.
8. Conducted a Public Hearing to receive input to apply for
State and Federal funds to acquire the Bill McDonald
pro~erty.
9. Rev1ewed and recommended alignment and standards for the
trail along Franklin Trail for construction in 1992.
While it was a very busy year, as you can see b~ the above
list, the PAC was extremelr im~ortant in the act10ns taken in
1991. The initiation of the C1tYW1de Trail System will have a
huge, positive impact on the residents of Prior Lake. Almost
equally as important, getting out into the neighborhoods in the
"MEETING-IN-THE-PARK" program served its purpose as well by
educating the community as to what the Parks Advisory Committee
and the Parks and Recreation Department is all about. At this
time, the status of the grant application is unknown but
anticipation for success is very high.
All in all,
a vital role
recommendations
impact on our
due!
the Parks Advisory Committee has, indeed, played
in the shaping of our community. Most of their
and actions will have a positive, long-ran~e
community. They deserve credit where credit 1S
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PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
NOVEMBER 25, 1991
The Parks Advisory Committee meeting was called to order by
Chairman, Doug Berens at 7:16 p.m. on Monday, November 25, 1991.
Those present were Tony Anderson, Doug Berens, Ron ceminsky, Pat
Heaney, Art Schoot, Kathy Smith and Bill Mangan, Director of
Parks & Recreation. There were six (6) residents from the
Franklin Trail area also present. Kathe Abrams was absent.
The minutes from the October l4, 1991 meeting were reviewed.
Bill Mangan asked if there were any corrections to be made on the
McDonald motion. He indicated that #1 of the recommendation
should read GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION rather than GENERAL LOCATION.
ART SCHOOT MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE ABOVE
CHANGE.
TONY ANDERSON SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
Dan Wehrs made a comment in regard to Al Friedges report at the
last meeting about the number of shrubs and trees that are
planted. He felt that it would be good to inform the residents
of this.
Bill Man~an indicated that the editor of the Prior Lake American
is very 1nterested in what the Parks Dept. has done in this area
and that he could publish an article next spring in conjunction
with Arbor Week about our greenhouse, etc.
Doug Berens asked for the next item on the Agenda, Staff Reports,
with Bill Mangan reporting.
Bill stated that the Bulk Truck Street Flusher has been delivered
from Superior Ford. This will be used for floodin~ rinks and
watering shrubs and trees. Originally, this was g01ng to be bid
out last Spring, 1991 and, if we would have had a company do the
entire project, the vehicle would have been about $75,000. We
did the Specs in-house and wrote the specifications for the bulk
tank, etc. The truck chassis cost about $30,000 & a company in
South Dakota built the tank, motor, nozzels, etc. for about
$24,000. We have a complete unit for $54,000; a savings of
$21,000. It has a 2100 gallon capacity and should have a 20 year
life. This will be a great timesaver and can be a one man
operation now because of all the valves, etc. being on the
inside.
Fifteen (15) skating rinks will be maintained this year. The
bulk are at the neighborhood park locations and there are two (2)
hockey and one (1) pleasure rink at Lakefront Park. The only
warming house is at Lakefront Park with an attendant starting on
December 15th.
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Parks Advisory Committee Minutes - November 25, 1991 - Page 2
Bill Man~an attended the MRPA (Minnesota Recreation of Parks
Associat1on) state conference last week. The entire conference
focused on customer & 9Ua1ity service both internal and external,
and employee staff tra1nin~. The key for the 90's will be
customer & quality serv1ce. An interesting element is that we
spend approximately $150,000 a year on employee salaries and we
only spend about $500.00 per year on employee training;
Generally spend less than 1% on training. A lot of work needs to
be accomplished in this area.
New Business, the next item on the Agenda, regarding discussion
and recommendation on the Franklin Trail bike/hike trail.
Bill Mangan acknowledged the six residents present from the
Franklin Trail area. Those present were Sandy Andersen, Dee
Houle, Mr. & Mrs. Pat Senftner, Nate Girard and Ed Beuch. These
residents were the spokes~eople for the Franklin Trail bike/hike
trail. Two other informat1on meetings have been held for the
residents to voice their concerns with this trail and to inform
them as to what the City's plans were. Since the Parks Advisory
Committee had made the recommendation for this trail, these
residents had requested to meet with the Parks Advisory Committee
to express their opinion as to why the trail was and continues to
be included along Franklin Trail.
The residents are not interested in an 8 foot bike/hike asphalt
trail going through front yards of residential homes; however,
they would be open to a five (5) foot concrete sidewalk which
would connect the residential areas and public areas with
on-street bic~cle striping with "no parking" posted for the bike
lanes. This 1nformation was discussed with the City Engineers to
determine the legality, etc. Bruce Loney, Asst. City Engineer
has determined that the cost of concrete runs somewhat higher
than asphalt. Presently, Franklin Trail is a county road, and
the "no parking" signs would not be allowed because it is a
collectors street; however, effective January 1, 1992 Scott
County may request that the City take over the maintenance of
this street and at that time "no parking" could be posted and
striping could be done on the street to accommodate bikers.
Hikers & walkers could use the concrete sidewalk. The lower
wetland area just south of County Road 21 between Count~ Road 21
and County Road 39 to the east of Highway l3 was looked 1nto but
it does not accomplish the Parks Advisory Committees task of
getting something on Franklin Trail to provide the safety for
pedestrians off the street.
Bill Mangan indicated that the Parks Advisor~ Committee
recommendation is to continue with the Franklin Tra11 proposal
and opened it up for discussion with those residents present.
Parks Advisory Committee Minutes - November 25, 1991 - Page 3
Sandy Andersen (a resident of Prior Lake for l7 years) voiced her
concern about the intersection problem on Franklin Trail and
County Road 21 and Franklin Trail & County Road 44 and people do
not stop at the stop signs. She has voiced her concern to the
County but the only answer she ever got was that there wasn't
enough traffic to warrant a stop sign or light.
Dan Wehrs said that he was concerned for the safety of the
children and the elderly and thus providing them a safe area to
walk and/or bike.
Pat Senftner (a resident of Prior Lake for 18 years) said that he
only knew of one elderly lady from Prior Manor that did any
walkin~ and felt that we would be forcing more traffic onto
Frankl1n Trail and in the residents front yards.
Dan Wehrs reminded the residents that according to the survey,
the majority of the Prior Lake residents wanted safe trails.
Pat Senftner and Sandy Andersen agreed that they felt that by
indicating "trails" on the survey, this meant in the parks rather
than in residents front yards.
Dan Wehrs said that the trail system must include residential
areas in order to get to the parks trails.
Pat Senftner than suggested that the trail should be continued
from Kop's farm and go along Highway 13 to connect with County
Road 21. He felt this would be much safer than crossing County
21 from Franklin Trail.
Bill Mangan stated that the Committee felt that the Franklin
Trail proposal would get the people off of Highway 13 and safely
travel on bike or walk to schools, shopping, etc. Franklin Trail
was a natural trail corridor because it had County Road
designation and because of the amount of traffic and safety
hazard that it poses to kids walking & hiking in the street
itself.
It was agreed by the Committee and the residents present that a
concrete sidewalk would be agreeable; the residents definitely
did not want an 8 foot asphalt trail. The cost difference from
asphalt to concrete for the Franklin Trail project would be
approximately $3500.00. Funds have already been allocated out of
the general fund balance to complete this project.
Bill Mangan reviewed the location of the trail with the group.
The plan, as presented, indicates that the trail will be on the
east side from Highway 13 to County Road 44 along the
businesses and from County Road 44 to County Road 2l on the west
side, ~rimarily because most of it is rental property with the
except10n of a few homes. It will cross at County 21 & Franklin
Trail and be on the west side until Highway l3 at the EZ stop.
Parks Advisory Committee Minutes - November 25, 1991 - Page 4
Discussion continued regarding the safetf at the two major and
very busy intersections where people wIll have to cross; a very
high concern of all present. It was felt that until something is
done about controlling these intersections, the sidewalks should
not be put in. They felt that this would only be encouraging
more problems/accidents.
Pat Heaney asked what kind of authority would we, as a Committee
and as residents, have to put up stop signs.
Bill Mangan confirmed that we have no authority in putting up
stop signs: this is strictly up to the County based on traffic
counts. We can make a request, perha~s through petitions or
whatever, but that does not mean that it w1ll happen.
Dan Wehrs felt that with the sidewalks being installed that
perhaps this would give us more leverage in obtaining the stop
signs and/or traffic lights.
Bill Man~an stated that one of the things addressed at the last
informat1onal meeting by the Asst. Engineer, Bruce Loney, was
that before the City agrees to take over the maintenance of
Franklin Trail, the City has notified the County on three
different occasions that the design on 21 and 39 is not
acceptable and must be corrected.
Pat Sentfner once again suggested changing the trail route to
along Highway 13.
Pat Heaney felt that the proposed trail (sidewalk) is the best
way to proceed with painted route on the street for the bikes and
eventually incorporate the bike trail alon~ Highway l3 and work
to get a stop light at the various intersect1ons.
Art Schoot voiced his concern about inviting people to use
Franklin Trail even though it is presently a collectors street.
He felt that there are other alternatives and that perhaps this
is not the correct choice.
Sandy Andersen was concerned about the fact that the trail
(sidewalk) would stop at two points on Highway 13 where there
are no traffic lights. She sug~ested that perhaps another area
should be done first and wa1t on this until sufficient signal
lights are installed.
Ron Ceminsky felt that there should be some focal point, of which
the proposed plan is.
Bill Mangan also added that the different areas will all be tied
in the next few years when the county takes care of their areas.
Parks Advisory Committee Minutes - November 25, 1991 - Page 5
Dan Wehrs commented that the committee has seriously taken this
route into consideration and felt that what was recommended was
in the best for the entire community.
Sandy Andersen questioned why the trail was not completed on
Highway 13 from Lakefront Park.
Bill Mangan indicated that this was not done because Main Avenue
may be widened with turn lanes and the~ did not want to put the
trail in and have to take it out aga1n because of downtown
improvements. The Town Center Association will have something
finalized this fall and/or winter. If they decide not to do
anything, the trail will be completed; if they do decide to do
something, the trail will be incorporated into the new street
design.
Doug Berens suggested that the sidewalk should not go to Highway
13 (by Lakers Restaurant) at this time, but stop by the Gateway
Center area.
sandy Andersen suggested that the same be done on the other end
of Franklin Trail; be cut short of Highway l3.
Bill Mangan indicated that tne trail would go behind EZ stop,
behind where the outdoor theater is and down to the road by
bowling alley.
Ron Ceminsky suggested that we direct the intersection concern to
Dick Underferth. He said that this sidewalk needs to be
initiated to force the County to look at the situation.
Art Schoot stated that the only way he could ~o alon~ with the
sidewalk/trail would be contingent upon gett1ng the 1ntersection
problem resolved: that some measure would be taken.
Kathy Smith indicated that the committee is a Parks Advisory
Council and the committee can help with petitions, etc. but
cannot guarantee that the traffic light situation will be
changed. She agreed that this is an issue to be addressed but
that this committee is only a parks advisory body.
Doug Berens asked for a motion concerning the sidewalk/trail on
Franklin Trail.
DAN WEHRS MADE A MOTION TO INSTALL A 5 FOOT CONCRETE SIDEWALK
ALONG COUNTY ROAD 39 AND CUT IT SHORT OF HIGHWAY 13 BY GATEWAY
SHOPPING CENTER AND THAT THE SAFETY ISSUES BE ADDRESSED TO DICK
UNDERFERTH AND THE COUNTY THROUGH BILL MANGAN BEFORE THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALKS BEGIN.
RON CEMINSKY SECONDED THE MOTION.
THE COMMITTEE VOTED; 5 YES VOTES AND 1 NO VOTE BY ART SCHOOT.
MOTION CARRIED.
PARK ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES - NOVEMBER 25, 1991 - PAGE 6
It was agreed that Bill Mangan will work with the Engineering
Department concerning the safety issues to get their input as to
what can be done and will try to have some information on an
action plan for the December meeting.
Sand~ Andersen requested that she be contacted about the next
meet1n9 or any future information regarding the safetr issues.
Nate G1rard, Pat Senftner, Ed Beuch and John Anderson w111 also
be contacted.
The next item of New Business was the non-resident fees.
Bill Mangan indicated that City Manager, Dave Unmacht, had
requested that he do research on non-residential fees. He did a
survey of surroundin9 and other communities as to how they
handled non-resident1al fees for recreational programs & athletic
leagues. Ralph Teschner and Dave Unmacht made the recommendation
to City Council that a non-resident fee of $5.00 per person be
included as revenue effective January 1, 1992 for recreational,
youth athletic programs, etc. Anyone outside of the city limits
of Prior Lake would be charged this fee. This has been adopted
into the 1992 budget as revenue.
We are one of the last communities to incorporate this. This
will make a lot more work for the Parks staff but should bring in
some additional revenue.
Discussion followed regarding the non-residential fees.
The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, December 9, 1991.
KATHY SMITH MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
RON CEMINSKY
The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Bill Mangan
Director of Parks & Recreation Department
Nancy McGill
Recording Secretary
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PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
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DECEMBER 9, 1991
The Parks Advisory Committee meeting was called to order by
Chairman, Doug Berens at 7:35 p.m. on Monday, December 9, 1991.
Those present were Kathe Abrams, Doug Berens, Ron Ceminksy, and
Bill Mangan, Director of Parks & Recreation. Tony Anderson, Pat
Heaney, Art Schoot, Kathy Smith & Dan Wehrs were not present.
Please note that there was not quorum.
The minutes from the November 25, 1991 meeting were not reviewed
because of the lack of a quorum. They will be reviewed at the
January meeting.
Bill Mangan reported on the current
Application for the McDonald property.
received as to the status of this.
status of the Grant
No word has yet been
Bill Man~an indicated that the skating rinks are scheduled to
open th1s Saturday, December 14: however, this depends upon the
weather conditions.
Larry Anderson, City Engineer, Brad Larson, County Engineer and
Bill Mangan were scheduled to meet to put together an Action Plan
which would address the safety issues regarding the trails on
Franklin Trail and the County's commitment to this. Brad Larson
was unable to make the meeting: however, there was some telephone
discussion but no Action Plan has been finalized yet. Bill Mangan
did indicate that one of the conditions of the City accepting the
responsibility of Franklin Trail from the County would be that
the County would either redesign and lower the intersection,
repave, etc. or, fix the traffic problem at Countr Road 2l &
Franklin Trail through traffic signals. It appears l1kely that
there could be a set of li~hts installed at this point b~ Fall,
1992. The cost of the traff1c signals would be approx1mately
$75,000 - $100,000 for the County.
Bill also inquired about the intersection of County Road 44 &
Franklin Trail as to if this would warrant traffic signals. The
County would be willing to do Warrant Studies to determine the
feasibility of signal lights. The intersection of Franklin Trail
& County Road 21 may already meet Warrants criteria. It depends
solely on the volume of traffic of which County Road 21 &
Franklin Trail have similiar volumes of traffic: however, County
Road 44 & Franklin Trail do not have similar volumes of traffic.
Therefore, it seems that Franklin Trail warrants only stop signs
to control the traffic and keep traffic moving on County Road 44
versus a traffic light at this intersection. Another thing to
consider is that if the City does acquire the responsibility of
Franklin Trail, we would be liable for all the improvements which
would include new pavement.
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Parks Advisory Committee Minutes - December 9, 1991 - Page 2
The timeframe for trail construction of the trail systems were
reviewed through the handout that Bill Mangan distributed to all
members.
Kathe Abrams suggested that the Parks Advisory Committee be given
a tour of where all the pro~osed trails will go. It would be
easier to understand and d1scuss if the committee physically saw
where these trails will be.
Ron Ceminsky was curious as to the status of the committee
receiving a map of the various trail locations as discussed at
an earlier meeting.
Bill Man~an indicated that the maps are not all finished but will
be distr1buted when they are.
Doug Berens mentioned the tree selling program that Burnsville
has and wondered if our City could incorporate something like
this whereby the City would purchase trees to sell to residents.
He felt that this would be a nice service to the residents.
Bill Mangan said that he would look into the program and perhaps
could incorporate it with Arbor Day; however, the order would
have to be placed in January.
Bill Mangan reviewed the accomplishments of the Parks Advisory
Committee during 1991. Nine items were highlighted as
accomplishments. He felt that the Parks Advisory Committee
played a vital role in the shaping of our community.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Bill Mangan
Director of Parks & Recreation Department
Nancy McGill
Recording Secretary
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