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16200 Eagle Creek Avenue S.E.
Prior Lake, MN 55372-1714
MINUTES OF THE LAKE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
May 10, 2004
I. CALL TO ORDER
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The Lake Advisory Committee (LAC) Meeting was called to order at 5:00
P.M. Members present: Dan O'Keefe, Donna Mankowski, Marv Mirsch, and
Brad Beneke. Members absent: Harry Alcorn
Others present: Steve Albrecht, City Engineer, Larry Poppler; Assistant City
Engineer
CONSIDER APPROVAL MEETING MINUTES
Marv Mirsch stated a correction to the minutes be made. On page 4 the first
paragraph, second sentence should read "Alcorn will start the process and
highlight standards and circulate the plan to the others in the LAC". Mirsch
made a motion to approve April minutes with the correction as noted. Brad
Beneke seconded the motion. The minutes were approved with the correction
as stated.
NEW BUSINESS
OLD BUSINESS
a. Dock Issues
Poppler stated that at our last meeting Alcorn was to distribute a draft
ordinance for the docks. LAC members were to read the draft for
discussion.
Mirsch commented that the definitions may not be needed as they may
already be in the City ordinance. The Prior Lake Conservation District
should be eliminated from the draft and replaced with the Lake Advisory
Committee. Spring Lake and other lakes should maybe be added to the
language.
O'Keefe stated that this is not a ordinance the LAC is submitting this is a
tool in which to discuss the topic.
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O'Keefe feels the draft ordinance is more extensive than his expectations.
Having licenses for residential docks would not be something he would
favor.
Beneke mentioned that if we are going to have any ordinances for docks
then the ordinance should be written to have some meat to it and cover
all topics.
Mirsch believes that the City should not be involved in licensing
residential docks.
Mankowski doesn't think the City has the ability to enforce licensing of
docks on the lake.
Poppler stated that the draft ordinance, which the LAC is discussing, is a
bit more advanced than what he had in mind. Planning is currently taking
phone calls from people complaining about dock issues. Poppler spoke
with Jane Kansier in the Planning Department and she is receiving
numerous phone calls on dock issues. Jane is currently using the old
DNR rules in dealing with the phone calls.
O'Keefe is unsure if an ordinance is needed on this issue. It seems to be
something that the residents need to work out between themselves.
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Beneke agrees with O'Keefe that if the ordinance is not necessary then
lets not create the ordinance. But if it is decided that an ordinance is
necessary then the ordinance should be written with variance processes,
funding, and enforcement tools. It is kind of an all or nothing issue.
Mirsch feels that guidelines are necessary for lakeshore owners.
Mankowski believes at a minimum that the City should follow the DNR
guidelines.
Beneke stated that there is no need to implement an ordinance unless it
is a complete and addresses the difficult situations not just the common
sense issues.
Albrecht said that it would be difficult to write an ordinance which
addresses the many different situations. A variance procedure may be
necessary.
O'Keefe stated that the majority of people do not have a problem on the
lake and if we begin to regulate docks, it opens the door to many other
inquiries about different dock situations.
Beneke added that the City does not have the staff to enforce an
ordinance. This can be resolved by civil procedures.
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Mirsch mentioned that maybe the people from the different dock installers
can inform us on if they have dealt with many issues between neighbors.
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Albrecht stated that we should talk with the Planning Department about
how many calls they are receiving on this issue.
Mankowski stated that we should also find a copy of the previous DNR
regulations, but most of the time this is a common sense work it out
situation.
O'Keefe said that we should table this and get the information we need to
make a decision. O'Keefe will talk with the DNR and get a copy of the old
regulations. Poppler will talk with the Planning Department to see how
many calls they are receiving on this issue.
b. Review of the 2000 Comprehensive Lake Management Plan /
Sustainable Lakes Management Plan
Poppler created a spreadsheet detailing the activities broken down into 6
categories: Information, summer lake tour, boat education, watershed
district, milfoil, and water quality monitoring.
Mirsch mentioned that other than the summer lake tour none of these
activities require action from the LAC.
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O'Keefe stated that we should have enough activities to discuss in the
next few meetings.
Beneke added that the LAC purpose is to try to influence the Council on
decisions on items such as capital expenditures and policy.
Mirsch mentioned that LAC should support the actions of the Watershed
District. In the past the LAC has endorsed items such as lake-scaping
and other items. Mirsch stated that the LAC should make
recommendations regarding the items on this list.
Beneke suggested that the LAC should not endorse items which are not
able to be funded.
O'Keefe added that some grass roots efforts on certain issues need to be
generated by the LAC.
Mirsch stated that even some suggestions regarding funding of certain
projects needs to be part of the LAC's role. The Watz's Point and Sand
Point Beach projects are the perfect example and these projects were
partially funded using grant programs.
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Albrecht suggested that the LAC provide input on the budget for water
quality. Also give input on the comprehensive plans and proposed
projects.
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Mirsch suggested that a LAC member be added to represent Spring
Lake.
Poppler added that looking at the Sustainable Lakes Management Plan
one of the action items is for the LAC to educate it and promote it.
Albrecht suggested that the Communications Coordinator can be used to
promote LAC related topics.
Mirsch will take a look at the Comprehensive Lake Management Plan
activities and turn the activities into action items.
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
a. DNR Access Informational Meeting -The meeting will be held at the Prior
Lake Maintenance Center on Wednesday May 1 ih from 6:30 to 8:00.
b. Boat Lift and Boat Track Systems - This topic is going back to Council.
Albrecht will e-mail the language to the LAC.
c. Pop pier will circulate an e-mail to coordinate a time for the lake tour and
the next meeting. O'Keefe stated that the Sheriff should be invited to the
lake tour.
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VI.
ADJOURNMENT
THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:20.
Respectfully submitted,
Larry Poppler
Assistant City Engineer
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LAC Defined Tasks
Task Information
Summer
Lake Tour
Boat
Education
Description
Provide agencies to aid residents X
Provide list of grants to residents X
Annual summer lake tour
Articles on water quality X
Publish lake rules and regulations X
Provide shoreline stabilization info X
Articles on lakescaping X
Boat education programs
Maintain literature in kiosks X
Conduct lake use surveys
Assess runoff management with WSD
Bi-annual meeting with WSD
Maintain spread of Milfoil
Submit annual milfoil budgets
Perform water quality monitoring
Meet with WSD to discuss standards
Publish lake related education articles X
Locate and demonstrate lakescaping X
Sustainable Lakes Management
Volunteer lake monitoring X
Detailed water quality monitoring X
Watershed inflow/outflow monitoring X
Evaluate need for Phosphorus inactivatic X
Alum Treatment X
Aquatic plant management plan X
Chemical Treatment of Curlyleaf X
Chemical Treatment of Milfoil X
Rain Garden buffers X
Soil management on new lots X
Shoreline restoration X
Retrofit ponds and sediment traps X
Water quality column in PL American X
Lake Friendly Program X
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Watershed
District
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Milfoil
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Water Quality
Monitoring
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X
Performed during July Meeting
Inform residents of the year end results of monitoring
Submit end of the year report to LAC
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
East Metro Area Trails & Waterways
1200 Warner Road, St. Paul, MN 55106
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April 27, 2004
SUBJECT: NOTICE OF PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING TO SEEK INPUT ON PROPOSED
ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCHES ON UPPER AND LOWER PRIOR LAKE.
Dear Neighbor:
I am writing to inform you of a public information meeting on Wednesday, May 12,2004 from 6:30 to 8:00
p.m. The purpose of the public information meeting is to provide an opportunity for the public to 1) consider
alternatives for additional public parking spaces at the two existing public boat launch sites on Prior Lake, and
2) provide feedback on these alternatives,
The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources will hold the public information meeting at the Prior Lake
" 'iaintenance Center, located at 17073 Adelmann Street SE, on Wednesday, May 12,2004 from 6:30 to 8:00
r'.m.
Your input on the alternatives is welcome. If you have any comm-ents or questions regarding these.proposals,
please plan to attend this public information meeting. Minnesota mpt. of Natural Resources staff will accept
oral and or written comments by May 12,2004, If you hilve questions regarding this matter, contact the
Minnesota Dept. of Natural Resources, Trails & Waterw':lYs Division, East Metro office at 651-772-7935.
Written comments may also be sent by mail to the above address or email by May 12,2004. Thank you for your
participation in this process.
Sincerely,
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Suzann Willhite
!\rea Trails and Waterways Supervisor
suzann. willhiteiIV.dnr. state.mn.us